6 British Punk Bands from the 1970s That Will Make You Regret Not Listening Sooner

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  • @s3any1977
    @s3any1977 5 днів тому +21

    X-Ray Spex were cracking. Just listened to Germ Free Adolescents recently and its a really good album.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому +4

      They really were great, weren't they? Have no fear they will be appearing on a a future video fairly soonish. Cheers!

  • @ealingschoolofdrums3692
    @ealingschoolofdrums3692 5 днів тому +58

    My mate Gary Steadman was in Eater (guitar) he went on to join Classix Nouveaux, who he is still with. He was in Flock of Seagulls for a bit also. Thanks Jim, brilliant again !

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      That's very kind of you to say so and thanks for the great information. Cheers!

    • @gavinreid2741
      @gavinreid2741 5 днів тому +2

      I met him. I went to school with Andy Blade.

    • @karllux-d6g
      @karllux-d6g 5 днів тому +5

      I'm from Portugal; in 77, at 14, I was after all the info available on the press of the time. There was only a good national mag, which provided little account of what was taking place in the UK, but then things changed. We owe it to António Sérgio, a local EMI's A&R , label manager , record producer and radio announcer/show director, who not only began playing early UK76 Punk on Portuguese airwaves, late at night already in late 76, on Rádio Renascença (the official Catholic station!), but also had the nerve to organize a Punk compilation with Brit bands at the end of 77, with most tracks licensed, with a single Pistols track (GSTQ) that would bring major problems. Around 400 lps were issued and then the whole batch was apprehended and destroyed , with a few albums still being sold, now at around 250 euros on Discogs. It became a legendary record here among early Punk devotees. Yes, António Sérgio, was still working for EMI and he wanted to include a Sex Pistols' track on his own ''New Wave / Punk 77'' (official title) compilation album, and that was absolutely VERBOTEN. As a result, he was sacked from ''Valentim de Carvalho/EMI'' (Lisbon), being set ''free'' for better and bigger adventures you should read about online. Look for the ''UIVO'' documentary, here. And why am i commenting about the record? Because it was only on that compilation that i heard EATER for the first time ( 2 tracks - Outside view/ Thinking of the USA), and i was glad to know their drummer was my age, an argumentation used to ''dignify'' my incipient musical punk ''talents'' before my parents...

    • @paulsteadman5618
      @paulsteadman5618 4 дні тому +1

      Where is he from, I’m a Steadman from Newbury Park, Essex and it’s not a very common name !

    • @ealingschoolofdrums3692
      @ealingschoolofdrums3692 4 дні тому

      @@paulsteadman5618 North London, we both met at Music College in 97, both as 'mature' students !

  • @neil993
    @neil993 5 днів тому +45

    I think Malcolm Owens death kinda makes The Ruts bullet proof, The Crack is a perfect album, and Staring at the Rude Boys is one of the greatest songs ever written. And the legacy can never be tarnished by diminishing returns. (Though West One (Shine on me) shows they potentially could have hit even bigger heights)

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +3

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Malcom and The Ruts. I agree with you overall. Cheers!

    • @FatpunkSnr
      @FatpunkSnr 5 днів тому +10

      I would say The Ruts actually made it big, they have an incredible amount of success and they are still packing the punters in today. The Ruts are a step above anyone else on this list in what they achieved

    • @Timmeh551
      @Timmeh551 5 днів тому +12

      In a Rut … Powerful beyond belief

    • @anthonysprinks1253
      @anthonysprinks1253 5 днів тому +5

      "Something that I said " is a masterpiece.

    • @37895
      @37895 5 днів тому +1

      Wow.. that’s almost verbatim to what I was going to put..Sir, I salute you.

  • @l.salisbury1253
    @l.salisbury1253 5 днів тому +14

    This is USA calling...
    Slaughter & the Dogs deserve their own section. Their debut "Do It Doggy Style" is my favorite UK LP of '78...!!

    • @Timmeh551
      @Timmeh551 5 днів тому +4

      Where have all the boot boys gone ✊

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 5 днів тому +1

      who are you? Bruce Forsyth

    • @surreygoldprospector576
      @surreygoldprospector576 5 днів тому +2

      @@Timmeh551 Some got married and settled down. Others left for a foreign town.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +3

      It's funny, Slaughter and the Dogs never made much impact on me. I think they were bigger in the USA than they were on the British circuit. Cheers!

    • @l.salisbury1253
      @l.salisbury1253 4 дні тому +3

      @@JimDriver Interesting, considering their debut was NOT released Stateside (at least not at that time)! Even the punk-friendly Sire Records (Ramones, Dead Boys) wouldn't take a chance on it- probably because their name - and album title- was to extreme even for them! (Sire did release Sham 69's debut in the US- it was not successful here!)
      Their second album "Bite Back" was pressed here, but by then they'd altered their moniker to Slaughter.

  • @robpaige2376
    @robpaige2376 5 днів тому +32

    Sad to see the omission of The Adverts on this list. TV Smith's lyrics are urban poetry, and the band, as ramshackle as they were, could've been huge considering the leap between Crossing the Red Sea and Cast of Thousands. To me, they represent the definition of classic English punk.

    • @garygilmore2050
      @garygilmore2050 5 днів тому +11

      They gave me a few years of fame and free drinks

    • @matthiaspfisterer2066
      @matthiaspfisterer2066 5 днів тому +3

      They were the greatest. And even Tim Smith´s solo performances range for me way above a lot of concerts by other "full bands" that I have seen. Lively, toxic and extremely likeable and intelligent. I still remember how once a string on his guitar broke during the gig; he smiled, said "excuse me a second", jumped from the stage in a sudden leap, made his way right through the (packed) audience to the backstage (which is at the other end of the place and up a narrow staircase there) and was back in less than about three minutes with a bundle of strings which he then quickly sorted out, blitzfixed the guitar and ONE TWO THREE go for it again. Sometimes talked a bit with him after his gigs (was at a lot), he´s really a one of a kind nice person.

    • @matthiaspfisterer2066
      @matthiaspfisterer2066 5 днів тому +2

      p.s.: and his "It´s expensive being poor" is still one of my favourite songs of all times.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      The Adverts were great and I am a big fan of Tim Smith and the others. But this is just one video. Lots of great bands, (hopefully) lots of videos!
      Thanks for taking part. Cheers!

    • @fkat1666
      @fkat1666 5 днів тому +2

      The Outsiders never mentioned that's Adrian Borlands band before the Sound ua-cam.com/video/DMAi_IsR_dw/v-deo.htmlsi=vplju3VbldSwhGd1

  • @spencerhardy8667
    @spencerhardy8667 5 днів тому +20

    My top band from that period that should have been massive was Punishment of Luxury (Punilux).
    Savage, sweet and hilarious. Like if John Cooper Clarke had joined Motorhead.
    Did that jellyfish ever get his Blue Peter badge? We will never know.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      Any band that takes their name from a Giovanni Segantini painting is fine by me! Great comment: thanks for sharing your views. I'll reacquaint myself with Punishment of Luxury. Thanks!

    • @cyeamaculture8486
      @cyeamaculture8486 4 дні тому +2

      I ended up as a teacher working alongside Brian who was lead singer of punilux..great bloke..I never got to see them live but I know they still did gigs up until 7 or 8 years ago

    • @Exisles
      @Exisles 3 дні тому +1

      Saw them live, Reading Rock '78, an unforgettable experience !

    • @moreheff
      @moreheff 2 дні тому

      That is a great shout!

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 5 днів тому +14

    The ultimate shoulda-made-it-bigger punk band are surely the Buzzcocks. Within their bubble they were big, but never translated into mass market appeal in spite of some classic pop love songs. Punk was more of an albatross than a dove for Pete Shelley. RIP chuck.

    • @60sPsycheFanatic
      @60sPsycheFanatic 5 днів тому

      They failed because of his monotonous tinny childish voice.

    • @mikedavies3361
      @mikedavies3361 5 днів тому +2

      I don’t know they seemed to be on TOTPs a lot. More than Crass, that would have been interesting or maybe not.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Indeed. Great point. Cheers!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      You make a great point. A lot of people don't;t realise that the difference between a "successful" Punk band like Buzzcocks and a successful Rock band, such as Queen is immense. It's thousands of percent different, although they were all on TOTP lots…
      Cheers!

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver The difference is bands who are grateful for a record deal, and bands who can say we'll take our custom elsewhere, ta very much, with no shortage of contracts awaiting their signatures. Buzzcocks are one of those highly influential groups on subsequent eras and bands, who never gained enough traction to call the tune (pun intended). Queen on the other hand.. £££

  • @skolsuper8447
    @skolsuper8447 5 днів тому +7

    I am not being nasty! But I was an Hardcore Punk, into Crass, DK, Conflict, Discharge, and we used to call them groups you have mentioned 77rs, but now I am older I do respect them. Thankyou Jim.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      Thank you for saying that and for putting your thoughts forward. Much appreciated.
      We all change with age, and some of us for the better! 😄
      Cheers!

    • @lyntonryan4766
      @lyntonryan4766 2 дні тому

      Yeah, Crass Confict Flux of Pink Indians DK I still got the albums, and I still listen week in week out aswell as to ALL PUNK, I will never stop listening to Crass seen them twice in Birmingham along with Flux and Confict brilliant !

  • @speedking439
    @speedking439 5 днів тому +10

    You should have pointed out that Mark Perry started Sniffing Glue Fanzine in 76 which was also the starting point for Danny Baker into journalism , radio , TV and Daz adverts.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +3

      Good point! But you already knew that, as (I would guess) did most of the people who know anything about ATV, and, to be fair, editing a magazine (even as ground-breaking as Sniffing Glue) isn't really relevant in a discussion about musical talent. I don't think so, anyway…
      Danny Baker? I didn't even point out he was Hilda Baker's bastard son. That's how negligent I am! 😄
      Thanks for taking part. You're probably right, and I'm wrong - except for Danny Baker, of course. He used to steal records from the record shop that employed him. Shocking fellow… 😇

  • @ianbruce892
    @ianbruce892 5 днів тому +20

    You forgot The Saints!!! 🇦🇺🎸🎸💯😎🤬

    • @jlohmann13
      @jlohmann13 5 днів тому +9

      They were from Australia. Lots of great punk bands from that era in the land down under.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +4

      I didn't forget them: I was a bit of a fan back then, but they were not British, so I dare not include them (you have no idea how many comments I'd get!)… 😄

    • @ianbruce892
      @ianbruce892 5 днів тому +2

      @@JimDriver No worries bud, I forgot you were just doing UK bands 🎸😎🇦🇺

    • @JismIsm-en4kz
      @JismIsm-en4kz 4 дні тому +3

      They're from Australia

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 3 дні тому

      I never rated them, just a pub rock band with Stooges influence

  • @argopunk
    @argopunk 5 днів тому +7

    Here in Canada, XTC had their official North American fan club in Barrie Ontario of all places--it was called The Little Express and operated officially from '83 to 2000. Before that it was unofficial hehe.
    XTC got plenty of radio play with "Making Plans for Nigel" in 1980, "Senses Working Overtime" in '82 and "Dear God" in '86/'87. But, true, they never got big where it really counts for the mega money, the USA. Although, I recall a 1987 Andy Partridge interview when he said they made some pretty good coin from the "Skylarking" album. So, hopefully that set them up somewhat nicely.
    I liked their alter-ego psychedelic band, The Dukes of Stratosphear, too.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +3

      Great comment - thanks! There's a lot more to XTC and Andy Partridge than I could share in this video. Maybe they deserve one of their own in the future?! Cheers!

  • @Ian-does-noise
    @Ian-does-noise 5 днів тому +14

    The Punk bands I was in (in 1977) supported XTC, I'm from Swindon too. Jim, regarding their manager, he was without doubt the biggest arsehole i've ever met in the music business, & i've been gigging for 47 years. They were a great band, it's a shame that just as they were about to become big stars, Andy had his breakdown.

    • @FatpunkSnr
      @FatpunkSnr 5 днів тому +6

      XTC never a punk band a successful art project band with some great hits

    • @dloorkour1256
      @dloorkour1256 5 днів тому +3

      @@FatpunkSnr XTC is Brilliant pop, I say

  • @evad520
    @evad520 5 днів тому +58

    You're joking about XTC right? They had hits even in the U.S.. up until the 1990s.

    • @davidmorgan6896
      @davidmorgan6896 5 днів тому +12

      I never really got XTC, but I've got friends with impeccable taste who loved them. These friends are way more into jazz/prog than punk and insist that XTC were not a punk band.

    • @trevorhoward2254
      @trevorhoward2254 5 днів тому +5

      @@davidmorgan6896 Oranges And Lemons which was from '89 (I think) is still a personal favourite.

    • @neil993
      @neil993 5 днів тому +5

      @@davidmorgan6896 I kinda think XTC have elements of punk/prog/jazz and even pop and they're all the better for it. I like XTC but people who love them...really really love them.

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 5 днів тому +3

      @@evad520 XTC like the Police, Magazine and Paul Weller, were journeymen who surged the punk new wave whilst having better things in mind.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +5

      It doesn't matter. Go into a local bar or deli and ask about XTC: you'll be met with a sea of blank faces, but ask about Prince, or Alice Cooper, or Frank Sinatra, or Jerry Lee Lewis aor even Talking Heads, and most people will know who you're talking about. That's the difference between "having a few hits years ago" and being HUGE.
      But please keep watching and commenting!

  • @KramarkEclipse
    @KramarkEclipse 4 дні тому +7

    Enjoyed this. Think one of the reasons most punk bands never make it big, especially in the US, is that it’s so hard to stay fresh & sustain the level of rebelliousness, fun, even integrity that “punk 101” requires without “selling out” (whatever that means). So most of it remains underground. After all, as one person said, ‘the apocalypse is only coming once’.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Great story! Thanks for sharing it and thanks for the kind words. I really do appreciate it! Cheers!

  • @brianstockwell4069
    @brianstockwell4069 5 днів тому +21

    999

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      Yes indeed, a great band. Thanks!

    • @STEVEJRAD
      @STEVEJRAD 17 годин тому

      @@JimDriver seen 999 last year in sheffield punk weekender and they are still really good live, gonna see them in my hometown Swansea on 0ct 18

  • @PWMoze
    @PWMoze 5 днів тому +1

    Another great video Jim. Saw the Ruts and Alternative TV back in the day (as well as the UK Subs, the Mekons, Eddie and the Hotrods, The Lurkers, Here and Now etc etc) and XTC a few years later. For a fresh faced 15 year old, too timid to try to get served at the bar, those early punk gigs were terrifying. Terrifying but brilliantly exciting. Like many of my mates, it inspired me to try and do it myself. Still trying to emulate all that excitement this day! Punks not dead...it's just taking a breather!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for the kind words and for getting involved in the channel. Very much appreciated!
      It was a terrific time and we were so lucky to be there. Thanks for sharing your wonderful memories. Cheers!

  • @Wearenotreallyhere
    @Wearenotreallyhere 5 днів тому +2

    Totally agree on the Wasps! Other great melodic British punk era bands that should have had chart success : The Tights (two great singles!) , Wire (now revered but always ignored), Subway Sect, Penetration (Danger Signs had top 40 written all over it), The Drones (only big in Manchester) , The Flys (Love and a Molotov Cocktail should have been a hit) and The Boys.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Some great calls there, thanks!

  • @phillipabond8333
    @phillipabond8333 5 днів тому +7

    Am sure I once read a quote from Andy Partridge along ghe lines of, 'We're the band that wanted to be punks but our mums would n'g let us.'

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Haha! Great quite: thanks for sharing it!

  • @bennoblittersdorf
    @bennoblittersdorf 22 години тому

    Thank you for talking about the Wasps. I have the Vortex Sampler ("Cant wait till 78!") and forgot them.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  17 годин тому

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching and for commenting. Cheers!

  • @manoloxines9113
    @manoloxines9113 8 хвилин тому

    The Ruts have been playing these days...for a while actually they've been at it.... brilliant band.

  • @pampossum9431
    @pampossum9431 4 години тому

    Everybody has forgotten Can't Stand The Rezillos, fuckn stunning album.

  • @dappledorchard5691
    @dappledorchard5691 5 днів тому +2

    I saw XTC at my local Poly touring their 1st album. This was about early 78 and they were very good.
    Another band around this time at the same venue were The Vibrators. I always thought they should have been bigger than what they were.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      The Vibrators were great and Knox and the chaps were a regular attraction when I was running The Cricketers, but I could never see them playing stadiums and earning double-platinum albums, great as they were. Cheers!

  • @bobikdylan
    @bobikdylan 5 днів тому +9

    I thought you might include Penetration, who were electric live. Saw them at the Marquee in 78, at the height of the disgusting spitting fad. Pauline Murray threatened to walk off stage if it didn't stop. I remember thinking I would walk off anyway. That really was revolting.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +4

      Penetration were definitely on my long-list and I totally agree with her (and you!) about the spitting. Yuk!

    • @derosabike
      @derosabike 5 днів тому +3

      I saw them with The Fall, Punishment of Luxury and Ed Banger at the Lyceum in Aug 78. I remember The Fall and Penetration being excellent -

    • @-Deena.
      @-Deena. 5 днів тому +2

      They were indeed.

  • @shinywarm6906
    @shinywarm6906 5 днів тому +11

    The Slits' first Peel session remains the best I've ever heard. When "Cut" finally came out, I couldnt have been more disappointed - good enough, but the edge had vanished in a haze of weed

    • @matthiaspfisterer2066
      @matthiaspfisterer2066 5 днів тому +3

      Absolutely. Same for me. The Peel version of "Vindictive" was breathtaking.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +4

      I kind of agree with you, though Cut had some great moments (such as 'Newtown').I always preferred to catch them live and I think Dennis Bovell was almost making a Dennis Bovell album with Cut. Cheers!

    • @-Deena.
      @-Deena. 5 днів тому +1

      Yeah, they never really translated well to vinyl. Waaaay over produced.

  • @aidankilmartin2521
    @aidankilmartin2521 5 днів тому +9

    Good stuff Jim ,quite liked XTC though like you said I wouldn't call them Punk but the real contenders in your mix for me was the Ruts ,a cracking band ,it was terrible the way it played out ,it's great Ruts D.C are still strutting their stuff

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      That's very kind of you to say so. Thanks!
      I agree with most of what you say. All the bands I mentioned were great and deserved more recognition. Eater was so far ahead of their time, especially when you realise they were barely into their teens, it's frightening.
      XTC and the Ruts aimed for the stars, but circumstances prevented them from reaching superstardom.
      I could go on… 🤓

    • @KevinOConnor-ji3ug
      @KevinOConnor-ji3ug 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver Eater are legends in my neck of the woods...

  • @andrewcowie4005
    @andrewcowie4005 5 днів тому +10

    No mention of X ray spex, the Boys, Patrick Fitzgerald,

    • @sturner80
      @sturner80 5 днів тому +1

      I saw Patrick Fitzgerald in early 1979 . Dire .

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 5 днів тому +1

      Safety pin stuck in my heart.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      No, well spotted. There are a lot more I didn't mention too. I've got to be selective and with all the best will in the world, I could never see Patrick selling out stadiums and hosting his own BBC-1 prime time poetry show. I'll make other videos about great talents but that was about Punk bands who could have been HUGE> Cheers!

    • @philhawley1219
      @philhawley1219 16 годин тому

      The Boys? I've got two of their albums. Not heard them for 25 years or more so I must dive in to my cellar of vinyl and listen to them again. I do remember there was a beautiful romantic love song called "You kiss like a nun".
      While I'm at it Motorhead and a few others might get a spin on my gramophone. OK Pop pickers!

  • @stevemiell4555
    @stevemiell4555 2 дні тому

    Found you by accident! Amazing...always loved the Ruts

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дні тому +1

      Welcome! Glad you found the channel and I hope you’re going to stick with me. Onward and onward! Cheers!

  • @60sPsycheFanatic
    @60sPsycheFanatic 5 днів тому +7

    Prefer Punishment of luxury and Wire. If you can have Ruts I can have Dept s. Prefered xtcs psychedelic alter ego. The Slits were to music what Albert Tatlock was to heavy metal. Eater were just schoolkids and it showed. My favourite bands were Anti nowhere league and Killing Joke. The Saints should have been massive yes I know they weren't English.

    • @matthiaspfisterer2066
      @matthiaspfisterer2066 5 днів тому +2

      True. Dukes of Stratosphere still get quite often onto my platter today. 25 o´ clock!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Quite right! We're all different, and I freely admit that my choices are partly dictated by where I was at a particular time and how I was feeling. I do get that. But I love sharing my experiences and tastes on this channel.
      Thanks for joining in!

    • @matthiaspfisterer2066
      @matthiaspfisterer2066 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver And that´s what was the real great thing about Punk right from the beginning. It´s a mindset, not a style of music (at least for me it always was - my music taste was always extremly diverse). And, your vid says "6 bands..." - - you inevitably have to make SOME choice for 6 bands! You just animated everybody here to think of what their choice would possibly be for that. How could anyone sane really criticise your choice - that´s why it is your choice, isn´t it?

  • @billpearmain9620
    @billpearmain9620 5 днів тому +9

    Sorry to contradict you Jim but XTC are huge (in retrospect) Their dear God track propelled them into the stratosphere on the American alt college circuit, people want them back and are obsessive, there is the only if, Mr. Partridge would play on stage again and talk to Mr. Moulding. In my humble opinion Partridge and Moulding are up there with Difford and Tillbrook, Lennon and McCartny Jaggers Richards and the brothers Davies for Englishness. They may not have made it star wise but their shadows are enormous.

    • @matthewcoombs3282
      @matthewcoombs3282 5 днів тому +3

      Agree with you Partridge and Moulding, the Lennon and McCartney of Swindon!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +4

      Haha! I agree: as far as musical greatness goes, there's hardly any greater star than XTC. But as far as UA-cam goes… 😄
      Thanks for a great comment. Much appreciated, and thanks for watching, too.
      Cheers!

    • @nostro1001
      @nostro1001 5 днів тому +1

      Yup, I was gonna post that XTC were rather big for not being big & they had commercial success with Making plans, senses working etc. Come to think of it they were always touring and always filled those smaller venues back in the day.
      I tend to think of them closer to pop than punk.
      I saw Magazine support them, along with pre supports of supports 😂. I still look back as Magazine being a highlight gig of the era.
      Cheers!

  • @electricleg207
    @electricleg207 5 днів тому +4

    Good to see you included The Wasps ,I never saw them but their two tracks on Live At The Vortex are very good.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks! I don't think the live track I included showed how good they were and they really were good. Cheers!

  • @David-mg1yj
    @David-mg1yj 5 днів тому +8

    I saw the Slits & The Ruts, never saw Eater (Wish I had). Never heard of The Wasps. Never rated XTC. Too pop for my punky lugholes. Still not sure about ATV, all these years later. I had their first album, but always preferred bands like Slaughter & The Dogs.

    • @babywithalaser2409
      @babywithalaser2409 5 днів тому

      My mate is Bri Grantham, the drummer from Slaughter. He's told me some cracking stories...His Morrissey one is piss funny. He auditioned for them once and sat cross legged and barefoot while singing. Bry threw a drum stick at him and said, "Get up you soft cunt"...lol

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +2

      I know exactly what you are saying and most of my friends would share your views. Personally, I have a weakness for the quirky. Haha! Thanks for sharing that: you should start a video channel and spread the word… 😎

  • @laurieharper1526
    @laurieharper1526 5 днів тому +2

    Hi Jim. Interesting roundup. I agree with you about XTC. Great musicians and really original ideas. They could really do the business live and didn't sound like anyone else.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Yes, indeed. A great band. Cheers!

  • @dannygarton
    @dannygarton День тому

    Memories of skiing holidays in the Wiltshire Alps. ❤

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День тому +1

      Haha! They make great cooker clocks in Swindon! Thanks for joining in! Cheers!

  • @JoeMarchi
    @JoeMarchi 15 годин тому

    Great share. Had forgotten about the Wasps

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 годин тому

      Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.
      Much appreciated!

  • @davidmiller6504
    @davidmiller6504 5 днів тому +4

    Ruts DC are a superb live act these days and still releasing excellent songs. I caught them supporting The Strangles after covid.. Wasn't expecting much as the Men in Black's support acts have often left me disappointed. On that night they really delivered and had a strong following in the audience. Catch them while you can!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for sharing that information. I must admit, I've not seen any of these bands for years and years. I often wonder what I'd think now. Cheers!

    • @FatpunkSnr
      @FatpunkSnr 4 дні тому

      @@JimDriver Ruts DC are super, I think Eater played Northampton recently

  • @VincentRE79
    @VincentRE79 5 днів тому +10

    How about Sham 69?

    • @FFM0594
      @FFM0594 5 днів тому +1

      Don't worry, baby, I'm coming back for you!

    • @andrewharding9011
      @andrewharding9011 5 днів тому +1

      Jimmy was a bit of a tosser, that dancing vid of him is excruciatingly bad

    • @electricleg207
      @electricleg207 5 днів тому +2

      Have you been let out of Borstal early due to overcrowding?

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Yeah, good call but I'm not sure they would have been able to appeal to a wider audience in order to become HUGE. Cheers!

    • @VincentRE79
      @VincentRE79 5 днів тому

      @@andrewharding9011I met him a couple of times, absolutely nothing like the person he came across as. He was a Guardian reading intellectual.

  • @modsnsods7329
    @modsnsods7329 5 днів тому +6

    I notice Bazooka Joe on a poster.. I may be wrong but off the top of my head I think Mike "Madness" Barsons brother and Adam Ant were members

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +4

      Yes, Stuart Goddard was definitely in Bazooka Joe, not sure about the brother. Cheers!

    • @modsnsods7329
      @modsnsods7329 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver Just checked on tinternet.. He was and Madness covered a track of theirs for One Step Beyond .. Dragged it out of the back of my memory 😎👍.. Great vids of yours by the way 👏👏👏

    • @IAMPLEDGE
      @IAMPLEDGE 2 дні тому

      @@modsnsods7329 it was Ben Barson I think. And the track you are after is Rockin' in Ab. Also on one of the posters were Potato Five. Their horn section played on some of the post Madness The Madness project. When that finished Lee and Chris from Madness formed The Nutty Boys. Amongst their touring line up was some time Potato 5 vocalist, Spider Johnson, who was back in a reformed Potato 5 in 2023. Spider has also provided backing vocals on the two most recent Madness albums.
      I sold t shirts at gigs and ran an information service for the Nutty Boys. And if you look at my avatar thingy the poorly drawn (by Davey Jones of Viz Comic fame) picture of me has me wearing a t shirt with The Nutty Boys on it.
      As if that's not enough Madness links to this video, Segs from The Ruts played guitar on and produced some of Madness' dreadful Dangermen Sessions Volume 1 album. It was a case of great gigs, terribly over produced plastic sounding album. It's the 'Volume 1' bit of that album which fills me with dread. I seriously hope there's never a volume 2.

  • @StephenOconnor-c4t
    @StephenOconnor-c4t 4 дні тому +1

    XTC I love em every album your so rite Jim 🎉

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Thank you and thank you for saying so.
      Cheers!

    • @StephenOconnor-c4t
      @StephenOconnor-c4t 4 дні тому

      Jim did you see the stranglers back in the day ​@@JimDriver

  • @Carl-x8y3c
    @Carl-x8y3c День тому

    Hi 👋 im a Kiwi and here in New Zealand we had a small punk scene. Bands such as Suburban Reptiles and the Scavengers were two bands that started up here. It would have been interesting to see how they went down if they went over to the UK to play.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День тому

      Thanks for that great insight into Kiwi punk! I can remember a New Zealand back in the 1980s telling me similar tales of how exciting things were in Wellington and elsewhere. Happy days!
      Cheers!

  • @hugohugo2832
    @hugohugo2832 5 днів тому +4

    Ruts - definitely
    My favourite at the time by miles were The Only Ones

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Great band! My "surprising fact" is that Glenn Tilbrook from Squeeze played guitar on their demo, but if you;ve already seen my video, you'll know that already. Thanks for sharing that!

    • @-Deena.
      @-Deena. 5 днів тому +1

      I'd argue not really punk? For decades I thought that Peter Perret died of an overdose in the late 80's.. I must have dreamt it!

    • @stevejennings899
      @stevejennings899 4 дні тому +1

      I would agree that The Only Ones weren't really Punk. They had a Punk leaning due to Perrett's voice and vocal delivery but the music covered many styles. They were one of my favourite bands at that time and I do agree that they should have been huge but I believe Perrett'.s drug use probably put pay to that.

    • @-Deena.
      @-Deena. 4 дні тому +1

      @@stevejennings899 All very true. Another Girl is a timeless masterpiece.

  • @megalimey2423
    @megalimey2423 5 днів тому +4

    Great Vid ,Jim!!! My personal favourite that never made it was ,Red Beat (on Malicious Damage) who had as members two of the Jones brothers, the third brother was ,Howard Jones, who very much did make it.....Well done on the growth of your channel!!! All the best....👍811

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Thanks very much for the kind words. I really do appreciate it and thanks for sharing your thoughts to our little "community". Great info, thanks!
      PS the growth of my channel took me very much by surprise but I'm really enjoying the extra traction and buzz!

  • @paulshaw4451
    @paulshaw4451 5 днів тому +6

    Incredible, just pause this at 5:25... that line up for the Roxy... imagine living in London then, night after night going out seeing these bands... and that's just one venue... I was only 2 years old in January 1977... I love the scene now based around the Windmill and associated venues, but this would have been the greatest time to be old enough to go out for me...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Yes, it was a great time to be alive and a music lover. There were over a hundred pub and club venues operating in London at the time, mostly with live music seven nights a week. We didn't realise how lucky we were!
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    • @gavinreid2741
      @gavinreid2741 5 днів тому

      I often went to gigs at the Roxy. Great Times

  • @loyalroyal
    @loyalroyal 5 днів тому +1

    Absolutely loved this video. I reckon if Malcolm Owen hadn't died the Ruts would have been as big as the Clash. Such great songs. Also XTC did have a great career but it took them a while. XTC are highly revered these days. Finally, i must check out the Wasps.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Yes, you definitely should check out the Wasps. Thanks for the kind words, which are very much appreciated. Cheers!

  • @Michael-b7h
    @Michael-b7h 5 днів тому +7

    You could of picked 999, slf, the vibrators ,generation x, slaughter and the dogs , the adverts and many more but you pick xtc for fucks sake , they were closer to prog rock than punk.

    • @babywithalaser2409
      @babywithalaser2409 5 днів тому +3

      Slaughter is a great shout, I only watched this to see if they got a mention. I was in a band with Bryan Mad Muffet Grantham around 2006. A few years back he asked me if I'd play bass in Slaughter2 fronted up by Ed Banger of The Nosebleeds fame, then Covid came about and it didn't happen. Little fact, Slaughter and the Dogs were Jonathon Ross' favourite band at the time. He said it on a punk doc he did years ago..

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Great stories. Thanks for sharing!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      I could have but I didn't. That';s the joy of having my own UA-cam channel. You should start one and share your thoughts and tastes to the world: it's easier than you think. (I'm being serious btw!!)
      We all have different ideas and tastes. Cheers!

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 3 дні тому

      ​@@babywithalaser2409SATD are different to Slaughter, the vocalist Wayne Barratt had split, and it was a more glam sound, that never seems to get the credit for the influence on the Hanoi Rocks, Guns n Roses type bands that followed them
      Brilliant band, always loved DIDS as one of the all time classic punk albums, and also held a grudge against the Buzzcocks for slagging the off for being too" Bowie influenced"...like that's a bad thing !

  • @mickyates9154
    @mickyates9154 5 днів тому +1

    Cheers Jim good stuff , I forgot about the ruts , never heard of the wasps will av a listen and didn't know why xtc got off the English roundabout , my request suggestion is could you do a playlist video of the unknown bands you heard and had something interesting please? All the best ❤️💪☮️

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the kind words. I'm thinking about the best way to do a playlist video or maybe something on another platform. Please keep watching!

  • @lhc1966
    @lhc1966 5 днів тому +1

    XTC were great. Always wondered why they didn't get more recognition.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      I think Andy's genius was ultimately what stopped them getting great. I saw similar things with other emerging artists: it's funny how the brain reacts when the ultimate goal is just around the corner. Cheers!

  • @Morphstock
    @Morphstock 5 днів тому +4

    The Ruts and Alternative TV both great bands. I think the Ruts could have got very big if Malcolm hadn't died. I tend to agree with you about ATV, Mark Perry mostly just did what he wanted and it was never very commercial , but The Image Has Cracked is a great album that often seems to get overlooked.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Thanks! I agree with just abouyt every word you say. I rememebr seeing an interview with Mark back in the day where he said if he realised he was becoming rich and famous, he'd change course and have a rethink! Haha!

  • @PriapeBoudu
    @PriapeBoudu 5 днів тому +4

    Don't get me wrong, but I still think it's a shame that Skrewdriver didn't bang out some more classic 77 punk like they did on their first album instead of ending up like a farce. Good example of how politics can ruin a band.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      My own view is that Ian Stewart had a poisoned mind and I can't really listen to anything that cam out of it with any empathy. That's probably my failing…
      I get where you're coming fromL thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @PriapeBoudu
      @PriapeBoudu 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver Yeah, it's hard to seperate the man from the music but I feel the same about Michael Jackson these days 😃 Anyway, some more underrated punk bands: The Depressions and The Drones.

    • @ackerjawaka4742
      @ackerjawaka4742 4 дні тому +2

      When i was 17 I ended up in strangeways and the guy in the next pad had Screwdriver tattooed on his forehead, i used to wonder why anyone would have that for a tattoo ⚡ I eventually found out it was a band 🍺🍻😜

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 3 дні тому

      ​@@JimDriverI knew him, and used to bump into him till the mid 80s, after Hail the new dawn came out, he was actually a really good bloke, and you could have a political discussion with him, disagree with him, and still have a good relationship with him.
      Last time I saw him was when he (and a bunch of his mates) were working at Glastonbury ... No, really...

    • @IAMPLEDGE
      @IAMPLEDGE 2 дні тому

      @@JimDriver It's not a failing at all. Look at the cunt Morrissey has become and that's before you get into Paul Gadd and Ian Watkins. It is still ok to listen to Steps (if that's your thing), but the Lostprophets and Gary Glitter' music will forever be tainted.

  • @philrobinson64
    @philrobinson64 2 дні тому

    Wasps reformed play a lot of gigs in Spain. Met Jesse Lynn Dean ( singer ) earlier this year.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дні тому

      Thanks for the extra information. I noticed on the website they’d reformed, but I thought it best not to go there.😗 cheers!

  • @mckengineer5727
    @mckengineer5727 5 днів тому +1

    Really liking your channel btw 😊

  • @MadderMel
    @MadderMel 5 днів тому +4

    The early Punk bands !
    It's simply incredible just how many of the first wave of British Punk bands there actually was !

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      It was like an explosion of talent. I think the Punk and DIY movements (subtly different but with roughly the same goals) gave ordinary kids the inspiration to try and form a band and make music for themselves. A great time!
      Thanks for taking part.

  • @steveakka
    @steveakka 5 днів тому +3

    Fantastic band The Ruts..still my favourites..The Crack is a brilliant album 👍

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      The Ruts were great, weren't they? Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @andrewharris4268
    @andrewharris4268 4 дні тому +1

    I still listen to The Slits now. Their music is as fresh, different and remarkable as ever.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому +1

      I quite agree. Some of their stuff is great. Thanks for sharing!

    • @andrewharris4268
      @andrewharris4268 4 дні тому

      @@JimDriver I wrote that before watching to the end of the vid, because the other band I bracket with them in those terms is Alternative TV!

  • @derin111
    @derin111 5 днів тому +2

    The Slits never got ‘big’, if that was the aim, because frankly the weren’t very good and they or their record company placed too much import on the fact that they were an all female band. Even in the misogynistic late 1970s that could only carry them so far before the ‘novelty’ wore off.
    I saw them, as a 15 year old in 1978, supporting The Clash……and they were shit!

    • @saintgeorge6706
      @saintgeorge6706 5 днів тому +2

      Agree with you. I saw them play The Roxy in 1977. Even by punk standards they were dreadful. Ari Up just screamed rather than sang and the drummer was awful.

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 5 днів тому +2

      Me too. Over hyped drivel.

    • @saintgeorge6706
      @saintgeorge6706 5 днів тому +2

      @@gaycha6589 Seeing Siouxsie & The Banshees around the same time. It was obvious to me who would have a future. Not a bunch slumming it art-school types The Slits and that include X-Ray Spex.

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 5 днів тому +1

      @@saintgeorge6706 yup. Although their version of heard it thru the grapevine has some merit.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      It's interesting to hear your perspective, though I'm not sure they were aiming their music quite at your demographic! 😄
      Thanks for sharing your experience! and for getting a debate going. Cheers!

  • @Tamberlyn4u
    @Tamberlyn4u День тому

    Nice. Eater were the real deal. Andy Blade's solo stuff is pretty amazing too.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  День тому

      Thanks! I’ll check it out. Please keep watching and commenting. Cheers!

  • @VinMartinelli
    @VinMartinelli 5 днів тому +4

    Great videos !! It is hearing from people like you that makes UA-cam valuable.... Do you remember a band called Menace

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to comment. Yes, I do remember Menace though not well, I'm afraid. It was a while ago!
      Cheers!

    • @ackerjawaka4742
      @ackerjawaka4742 4 дні тому

      Oh shit I forgot about them 😜 I thank you ♠️

  • @MirlitronOne
    @MirlitronOne 5 днів тому +3

    Prompted by one of your posters, I would have put The Rezillos in instead of XTC, as, despite the latter's problems, they arguably still made it big.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      XTC may have been fairly big but not HUGE, I'd say. Anyway, I'm saving the Rezillos for another video because I have stories about them. Cheers!

  • @robertmaud715
    @robertmaud715 4 дні тому +2

    Adam ant is very unrated he never gets a mention on hardly anything his a great man with the ant's too

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Yes, he's not been put up there with Elvis and The Beatles, that's for sure. Unjust? Not for me to say.
      But you just did, so thanks. It needed saying!

    • @juveale29
      @juveale29 3 дні тому +1

      Adam and the Ants are a bit of an anomaly. The punk Ants vastly underrated, almost a complete lack of commercial success but a massive underground band that is still spoken of very highly among punk circles these days. #2 of the band a huge worldwide commercially successful phenomenon, the first big star of the 80s, but in my opinion downhill musically from Prince Charming onwards.

  • @phillipabond8333
    @phillipabond8333 5 днів тому +4

    Thinking about The Flys now. Only7 minutes in so maybd they're on the list.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      I hope you weren't too disappointed but thanks for commenting. Cheers!

    • @phillipabond8333
      @phillipabond8333 4 дні тому

      @@JimDriver Not at all disappointed! Really glad UA-cam decided to recommend the channel.

  • @damianbylightning6823
    @damianbylightning6823 5 днів тому +3

    Why are The Slits on here? Diversity hire?

    • @jamespohl-md2eq
      @jamespohl-md2eq 5 днів тому +2

      Incel vibes

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      They're here because of the reasons I mentioned in the video. Thanks for asking!

    • @damianbylightning6823
      @damianbylightning6823 3 дні тому

      @@jamespohl-md2eq Anyone who asks questions about crap fronted by protected types/groups/tribes is incel/racist/fascist etc. The morons who bully pop culture and real culture with such fascist-like cliches, I found to my horror, usually believe their mindless crap.

    • @damianbylightning6823
      @damianbylightning6823 3 дні тому +1

      @@JimDriver You didn't give a many/any reasons why they should be taken seriously.

    • @Al_is_XXX
      @Al_is_XXX 3 дні тому

      🎯

  • @orthodoxblue7252
    @orthodoxblue7252 4 дні тому +2

    What about X-RAY SPECS?

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому +1

      X-Ray Spex were great but not really suitable for this video. Watch this space, as they say! Cheers!

  • @glennaustin37
    @glennaustin37 2 дні тому +1

    Always thought Spizz (esp. in Spizzenergi and Athletico Spizz guises) deserved to be much much bigger than they were at the time.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дні тому

      Space was always worth a watch in his various incarnations. Thanks for sharing that!

  • @paulnesbitt1698
    @paulnesbitt1698 4 дні тому +1

    I was lucky enough to see s few punk bands from the 70s , the pistols , the banshees , vortex , the vibrators , boom town rats , the ruts and the stranglers. For me bar far the best was the stranglers. I first seen them in BIRMINGHAM 1979 and they were totally awesome. The last time I seen the stranglers was 2022......and they are still awsome .
    I was 14 when the punk bands broke through......what a great time.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Thanks for sharing your fantastic punk exploits with us. And thanks for watching!

  • @mairenared
    @mairenared 4 дні тому

    Still got my 45 of "Babylon's Burning" and thought they were a great band. I often wondered what happened to them but losing their lead singer must have been a hard blow.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Yes, I think it put the brakes on their rise to stardom to be honest. They were never the same (great but it wasn't the same) after that happened. Cheers!

  • @jaygent2836
    @jaygent2836 4 дні тому +2

    I believe Eater were Lou Reed's faves

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому +1

      Or do you mean lurid? 😄
      Thanks!

    • @jaygent2836
      @jaygent2836 4 дні тому +1

      @@JimDriver the fact they covered Sweet Jane probably helped endear them to him; flattery etc!

  • @orthodoxblue7252
    @orthodoxblue7252 5 днів тому +23

    What about The Lurkers?

    • @Steve-j7z
      @Steve-j7z 5 днів тому +1

      Pub rock, did well to be as big as they were. Fulham Fallout was good back in the day but never ground breaking if we're honest.

    • @Morphstock
      @Morphstock 5 днів тому +5

      Great band, underated.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +3

      I used to hang out with The Lurkers back in the day and they drank in the pub I used to promote in (The Cock, North End Road, Fulham) and I booked them for several gigs, but I'm pretty sure even they didn't expect to be HUGE, up there with the Stones and Elton John (God forbid!!). Thanks for taking part.
      Cheers!

    • @Timmeh551
      @Timmeh551 5 днів тому +3

      Yep … Shadow ..Live High Wycombe in the day 👌

    • @LongGone77
      @LongGone77 4 дні тому +1

      I LOVE the Lurkers and one of my fav UK punk acts..... but if we're being honest, there's nothing about them that should've been huge. lol. They were destined to be an obscure punk act from the beginning.

  • @conway5481
    @conway5481 5 днів тому +3

    So many great bands to pick from. My personal favourites were Stiff Little Fingers, so good. Much better than the other bands that came out of Ireland and made it big

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Great choice. SLF were (and are) great! Cheers!

  • @EpicCBgamerOfficial
    @EpicCBgamerOfficial 5 днів тому +4

    Swell Maps ?!? Dancing Did ???

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for commenting. Great calls but HUGE?! Personally, I don't think so but your opinion is as valid as mine! Cheers!

    • @AbnerAgogo
      @AbnerAgogo 5 днів тому +1

      Yes! The Swell Maps, my second favorite brit punk band besides the Fall. So glad you mentioned them!

  • @taffyjones281
    @taffyjones281 5 днів тому +4

    XTC weren't punk and had a fair measure of success. Otherwise, punk was just meant to be fun, more about the movement or image than the music. Some great bands emerged from the era, but they were the ones who could actually play, eg The Stranglers etc

    • @anthonysprinks1253
      @anthonysprinks1253 5 днів тому +2

      The Ruts could play, I would say.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      You make valid points! XTC carved out their unique sound, showcasing the diversity within the punk movement and beyond. Cheers!

    • @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb
      @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb День тому

      'Skylarking' still sounds great; though it's definitely not punk; more English new-wave, folk-pop. I believe the band thought that producer, Todd Rundgren had a bit too much control over the end result.

  • @EyeSeeProjection
    @EyeSeeProjection 5 днів тому +4

    Alternative TV had a track called "Splitting in two". Which was covered by cult legends The Chameleons at the end of their live shows.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Great info! Thanks for sharing it. Cheers!

    • @sawneyhasbean
      @sawneyhasbean 4 дні тому +2

      I think that their first LP "The Image Has Cracked" ,1978, is one of the most significant albums of the first UK Punk wave...full of ideas! Like Wire and The Fall , ATV really started with a burst of surprising and unconventional creativity.

  • @Steve-j7z
    @Steve-j7z 5 днів тому +2

    Eater were just kids and rode their luck as a novelty cos of their age. The later songs Andy Blade did after leaving Eater is well worth a listen and so much better. How he's been overlooked for so long is a mystery to me, still churning out decent songs to this day.

    • @andrewharding9011
      @andrewharding9011 5 днів тому

      A tosser though live these days, i saw him in matlock north uk . He spent the gig slagging off northerners etc saying wheres our whippets and flat caps

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 5 днів тому +3

    The Damned could have been epic had they taken one of the big money offers that were on the table, instead they wanted to go with an independent so they had more control, and they chose Stiff Records and were the first of the so called punk bands to release a single and an album and tour the states, they would have been better off with a major label, instead they went from one skint independent to another, they released great singles and albums but the promotion was lack lustre, despite this they charted quite high.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for sharing those thoughts. Not sure I agree with everything you say. My perception was that Stiff were superb marketers, whereas the big labels only had ideas that involved lots of music press advertising and I remember their acts being very critical of the way they were promoted. I think the direction the Damned took was just about right.: theyw= were making money and having fun.
      But your perception could well be right!
      Cheers!

    • @MrAladdino
      @MrAladdino 8 годин тому

      The Damned were , are and will be epic!!!

  • @gaycha6589
    @gaycha6589 5 днів тому +1

    There was never another Stooges amongst these bands but they all have their fleeting moments in Rick history.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Indeed. I'm assuming you meant "Rock history", otherwise I'll start brushing up on Rick Stein (British chef and restaurant-owner for those who don't know!)
      Thanks for sharing!

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 4 дні тому

      @@JimDriver ha ha. Yes rock.

  • @StephenMurray-kv1ue
    @StephenMurray-kv1ue 5 днів тому +2

    I have seen Ruts DC a lot of times. But only the Ruts once. Wolvo Civic Oct 1979. If nobody had died, the Ruts would have headlined big festivals like Rebellion, Academy In The UK, North East Calling and Brixton Academy Fuck Reading.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      I quite agree and that's what I mean. Thanks for being part. of this little community of music nerds! Cheers!

  • @wimaranes
    @wimaranes 5 днів тому +2

    Love ya take with humour - Thanks for all yer info 🙂 From Portugal, yours truly 🙂

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thank you for those kind words. I love almost everything about Portugal (I'm a veggie, so the pork stuff is out!). Cheers!

  • @Rosetheromani
    @Rosetheromani 5 днів тому +3

    What about Essential Logic I really liked them.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Essential Logic were great but never really emblazoned themselves onto my soul like many of the others did. Thanks!

  • @neilrushworth5958
    @neilrushworth5958 4 дні тому +2

    XTC were pretty huge . The Boys should've
    been in there too.😊..Wire...The Boys...The Vibrators

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      Good Calls. Thanks for taking part!

  • @kookadams85
    @kookadams85 Годину тому

    *Best u.k punkrock - the Barracudas, Skrewdriver, Buzzcocks. Period.*

  • @innercityunit2112
    @innercityunit2112 5 днів тому +2

    You could go on all day, naming different bands. Swell Maps, The Shapes, Slaughter & the Dogs, The Raincoats, Punishment of Luxury, SLF, Pseudo Existors, Dangerous Girls, and you could just keep going and going, remembering it's still all subjective...and to be fair, quite a lot of these bands, including the ones you mention, did make it quite big, albeit not mainstream, but that was the point, wasn't it?.
    Out of the ones you mention, I love ATV, very creative and Mark Perry very much underrated. I love their singles and 'Life' is a punk classic. Still got it, thank goodness.
    ..and, RUTS, well they really were in a different league to the 3-chord brigade (no disrespect, cause I love them too).
    No, RUTS were fantastic musicians, head and shoulders above and they wrote very powerful songs, that have stood the test of time. I count myself lucky at having seen Ruts four times back in the day and they were amazing live and their records were really good too. Always well produced and very powerful. TBH, I think Ruts probably were the best punk band, and it would have been interesting to see where things would have gone, if Malcolm hadn't tragically died. I was 20 at that time. You could hear a shift in things on the West One (Shine On Me) single and I try and imagine where they would have taken things from there. They were a class act.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      It's fantastic to hear your thoughts on ATV and RUTS! and some great suggestions. Thanks!

  • @saintgeorge6706
    @saintgeorge6706 5 днів тому +1

    Chelsea
    Gloria Mundi
    The Kids
    The Adverts

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Good calls. I made my choices and I'll stick with them but I'm not ruling out another video along the same lines. Cheers!

  • @jettboy5265
    @jettboy5265 4 дні тому +1

    the slits didnt really have any decent songs its as simple as that

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому

      OK, let's agree to differ on that one. I hope you've subscribed btw. Cheers!

  • @mikespike007
    @mikespike007 5 днів тому +2

    XTC were never punk and how can you say they didn’t make it, formed 1972 finished 2006 and big in the US, multi award winning, 14 studio albums. And EXTC are touring now. Wish I could be such a failure.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      We're all entitled to an opinion, even me. I'd recommend you should start up a UA-cam channel and share your opinions and experiences with the world. I think you'll enjoy it.
      In the meantime, please keep watching mine. Cheers!

  • @ProfHanley
    @ProfHanley 5 днів тому +3

    Ruts4Eva! … XTC had a pretty solid following on college radio in the States … I remember cueing up Nigel followed by the first REM EP back in the day … ‘course nothing really beats the Subs “I Live in a Car” as under-rated punk noise …

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Good point: the Subs were a one-off!
      Thanks for sharing your memories. Please keep watching and adding your stories. I appreciate it. Thanks again!

    • @davidwhite4874
      @davidwhite4874 5 днів тому +2

      The live "Crash Course" version of ILIAC is particularly good.

    • @IAMPLEDGE
      @IAMPLEDGE 2 дні тому +1

      @ProdHanley I have heard tale that when REM were starting out they were covering XTC songs whilst they honed their sound.

  • @ashdrive
    @ashdrive 5 днів тому +2

    Absolutely loved the Ruts...sad what happened to Malcolm Owen, I truly think they would of been big...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It is always gratifying to connect with fellow Punk enthusiasts who appreciate the Ruts and Malcolm Owen's incredible talent. Thanks again!

  • @johnnylast4350
    @johnnylast4350 5 днів тому +2

    Great choices! Eater were great and were better then bands with members half their ages.
    Whats your opinion on the
    Maniacs? Alan Lee Shaw was a magnificent guitar player and is criminally underrated as a frontman. His other band The Rings were pretty good too.
    Always felt The Depressions were a solid band and Im surprised they never made it big. They had a decent sound and a few decent tunes.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I agree with just about every word. Keep watching. Cheers!

  • @nicolagiarrizzo
    @nicolagiarrizzo 5 днів тому +3

    Why not Subway Sect?

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      This is just one video. So many bands, so little time… 😄
      I'm communicating with Vic…
      Thanks for commenting. Cheers!

  • @karllux-d6g
    @karllux-d6g 5 днів тому +2

    Cocksparrer, Slaughter and the Dogs, they should have been bigger than the Pistols.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Yes, great bands but it's not all about the music unfortunately. Thanks for sharing!

    • @Tamberlyn4u
      @Tamberlyn4u 3 години тому

      haha

  • @stevenhorn5106
    @stevenhorn5106 5 днів тому +2

    I'd liked to have seen one of the most underrated punk bands of the day get a mention, and that's London. Brilliant live band and the one lp and three singles they made were fantastic.

    • @andrewharding9011
      @andrewharding9011 5 днів тому +1

      One of the best 77 bands by far, the Everyones A Winner single is a classic. How about the Killjoys, Rickie and the Last Days on Earth, plus many more

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      London were great and I saw them and put them on back in the day. Thanks for adding that. Cheers!

  • @LongGone77
    @LongGone77 4 дні тому +1

    Great video! Love all these groups. From a Canadian point of view: one band though that I think legit should've and could've been huge: The Boys. They had the looks, talent, sound and hooks to have been as big as Generation X. First two albums are bangers and even the 3rd and 4th records have their moments.
    We had some great bands in the late 70s too and among the best included Brit expats: The Demics (lead singer was from Manchester) and the Bureaucrats (vocalist was a brit). That said, I believe Menace had a Canadian vocalist, so we gave back! lol. cheers!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  4 дні тому +1

      Thanks very much for the kind words: much appreciated, I assure you. The Boys sound like the Lost Boys of Punk! Thanks for the recommendation. Cheers!

    • @LongGone77
      @LongGone77 3 дні тому

      @@JimDriver love your channel!
      Oh yeah man, so good. and Casino Steele (the keyboardist) played in the Hollywood Brats in '72-73, who were like the UK New York Dolls (and interestingly, had a Canadian singer living in England at the time! lol). The Ramones loved the Boys too. They had them on tour over 1980 and members joined them on stage for a few songs. The Boys rule! Uk punk rules. WIRE! Stranglers!

  • @bobgreen623
    @bobgreen623 3 дні тому +1

    I just caught my old band name on that Vortex ad for the Wasps! We were the eternal also-rans and support band...

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  2 дні тому +1

      Ha ha ha! Quite a lot of bands were but I didn’t make them any worse than the ones who made it! Thanks for taking part. Cheers!

    • @bobgreen8142
      @bobgreen8142 2 дні тому

      ​@JimDriver over the years I saw many bands who didn't make it, and as you rightly say some of them were great. I think sometimes it's a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

  • @malthuswasright
    @malthuswasright 5 днів тому +2

    XTC were never punk - way too left field. Brilliant band though. And the biggest problem they had was Andy Partridge's stage fright (as you said).

    • @FatpunkSnr
      @FatpunkSnr 5 днів тому +1

      Spot on

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      You make a great point! XTC had a unique sound that set them apart from the Punk scene, but back then, they chose to be associated with what was happening and the movement in general. Andy's stage fright definitely added an absorbing layer to their story.

  • @chriscoulthard7282
    @chriscoulthard7282 5 днів тому +1

    Bit of a random list, XTC were massively acclaimed critically, they still are. And, having had more hits than most, they are not unappreciated. The Ruts are hugely respected and still going strong, making great new records. The Slits are credited as the pioneers they were, and extensively written about. History has treated these bands well, some have extensive documentaries about them etc. Sure they could have had more success in their day but trends were overtaking them so quickly. 1980/81 guitars were out, synths were in. But they endure. Fair enough Eater and The Wasps, but they weren't quite of the standard of the other three, despite having a great song maybe two. I have a record store, young folks are always looking for OG punk records by the best bands.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Not sure any of those bands were HUGE in the same way U2 or Prince or Madonna or The Rolling Stones are, but you're entitled to your opinion. Thanks for commenting and I think you should consider making your own videos. I'd certainly love to see them (genuinely)!
      PS It definitely wasn't a "random list", I spent a week deliberating and crossing off other names. Cheers!

    • @chriscoulthard7282
      @chriscoulthard7282 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver I apologise if I came across a bit arsey. Enjoyed your vid, you saw these acts first hand so I can't appreciate that. I do think they'd all have to make some serious compromises for world domination tho. I'm happy with what they left behind is what I was getting at.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      @@chriscoulthard7282 No problem! To be honest, after you've answered a few dozen comments it's easy to get arsey myself! Thansk fir the words of encouragement and please keep watching. Cheers!

    • @sbwlearning1372
      @sbwlearning1372 2 дні тому

      What did the slits pioneer??

  • @neonwind
    @neonwind 5 днів тому +2

    Eater were promising, I had their 'Get your Yo Yo's out EP, white vinyl too!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Indeed! Thanks for sharing that. As a veggie, I was a bit non-plussed by the dead pig's head they bought from a butcher's shop for every gig but I realise that was them trying to shock. But hey-ho, they were the business!

    • @Tamberlyn4u
      @Tamberlyn4u 3 години тому

      @@JimDriver Just one gig actually, the drummers dad was a butcher you see.

  • @jimpayne404
    @jimpayne404 5 днів тому +2

    I have to admit to having forgotten the Wasps but liked all of the others. The Slits were one of the best live bands I ever saw. The Ruts early Peel session was stupendous.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      Thanks.: I totally agree with all you say! I am with you 100% on The Slits and I was very disappointed that none of the live clips I could find reflected just how amazing they were on stage. Cheers!

  • @francispower1418
    @francispower1418 5 днів тому +2

    I always thought XTC did make it pretty big? They were certainly too musical to have been considered punk. More New wave? And I agree about the Ruts (although now that I have swapped out old England for New England DC means ‘District of Columbia’ to me these days). Great band!

    • @zestyut1344
      @zestyut1344 5 днів тому +1

      I agree, xtc were very big, not compared to the Rolling Stones I suppose

    • @craighawkins3137
      @craighawkins3137 5 днів тому +1

      In Australia, and I thought they were big. Generals and Majors and Senses Working Overtime got plenty of airtime. Certainly not punk on those tracks. I wouldn’t have called their earlier hit Making Plans For Nigel a punk track.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      It's all about degrees, isn't it? Just about everybody you mix with will know who Elton John is, or The Rolling Stones, or Queen, or Abba, but ask about any of these bands (including XTC) on this video and you'll be lucky if one in ten or one in 20 will have heard of them.

  • @Ted_James
    @Ted_James 5 днів тому +2

    All great bands. My favorite by far is XTC. I love all of their albums. They covered so many different styles/genres and yet made them all their own. They were an incredibly consistent band. Yeah, they should've been as big as the Police or at least REM, but Andy's mental health issues coupled with bad management kept that from happening.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      XTC truly was a remarkable band with a unique sound and incredible range. It's a shame circumstances prevented them from receiving the recognition they deserved! Thanks for sharing your views.
      Cheers!

    • @Ted_James
      @Ted_James 5 днів тому +1

      @@JimDriver I see them as one of those bands that will stand the test of time. Looking forward to more of your videos!

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому +1

      @@Ted_James Thanks! I appreciate the support.

  • @Walesktf
    @Walesktf 5 днів тому +1

    XTC are touring this autumn. I think they have only one ex member left in the band, Terry Chambers.

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Thanks for that information, I didn't know. Do you mean Terry Chambers? Either way, he's not Andy Partridge. Cheers!

    • @Walesktf
      @Walesktf 5 днів тому

      @@JimDriver whoops I meant Terry Chambers. I'll correct my original comment now. Martin Chamber, is of course, the drummer with The Pretenders. I couldn't somehow see The Pretenders doing a set of XTC songs 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Ian-does-noise
      @Ian-does-noise 4 дні тому

      The new band go under the name EXTC (apparently the name was suggested by Andy). Yes, Terry's the only member of XTC in the new band. They're good, i've seen them a few times, the same as XTC, bad luck struck (in the form of Covid), just as they were going out gigging after months of rehearsals.

  • @matthewcoombs3282
    @matthewcoombs3282 5 днів тому +1

    Subway Sect? They morphed pretty quickly though from punk to something more interesting.

  • @ToOldToTurnProcycling
    @ToOldToTurnProcycling 5 днів тому +1

    Ive just commented on another video of yours, a friend of mine was in a one hit wonder punk band, his name is Anthony ( Tony ) Dent, from the Epping forest area.

  • @davidjames4980
    @davidjames4980 5 днів тому +2

    Thoughts on Discharge?

    • @JimDriver
      @JimDriver  5 днів тому

      Discharge were never really in my orbit and I always thought they were the Punk equivalent of a metal band and pretty "aurally challenging". It was probably my loss as I hear people rave about them. Cheers!

    • @DamienCalnon-uq7zj
      @DamienCalnon-uq7zj 2 дні тому

      ​@@JimDriver You never to old to start! I did it last year with Crass, and after some tough listening, I think they are great (bearing in mind my favourite punk was the initial wave).Even went to see Steve Ignorant's band who were excellent.