I really like these videos. Just one comment, could you always clearly state what the penalty is for infringements. Sometimes it's one shot, sometimes two. For me that is the hardest thing to remember.
Lost balls, balls in hazards or out of bounds, when is a ball lost and the penalties and procedure to follow on such an occurrence. A video on that would be greatly welcomed.
Question on point one. If your course has the preferred lie rule in place. So you pick up your ball,etc then place it in your preferred lie, and the at some stage after that it moves. What is the rule then ?
That depends on whether or not you caused the Ball to move after it was back in play. If YOU caused the Movement - Replace and add 1 Penalty Stroke. If The BALL moved "on its own" leave It where It ends up (as long as it is still playable) and play from there - NO Penalty.
drop from a cart path when it is not to your advantage, from a hazard to a cart path, what can you clear/repair in from of you off the green, "taking a fair stance" and bending back branches under/in a tree to hit a shot
The rules can be mind-boggling confusing. Thanks for clearing up a little. The bunker one, I'd say nobody would follow that right; I might even say the fair thing for the average player is to drop it out because only someone that really knows the rules would even consider that ruling--water like that usually means Winter Rules. I've seen Sergio Garcia get a relief IN A HAZARD from a sign that he claimed was on his line of play, and another pro not get relief from much more sensible situations. Silly game.
On number 2, if Neil had hit his ball to the side of the green and there was no sand on his line of play, and then Jez had hit a bunker shot resulting in that sand finishing where it did in the video, then Neil would have been able to remove the sand under 8.1d to restore the original conditions when his ball came to rest
@@scottmckeon5542 Boring and crap enough for you to have watched at least two of their videos (proven by the fact that you know detail about what was in the other one), and then took the time to read the comments and respond... I see what you did there.
If a ball on a tee isn't considered to be in play then why would it count as a stroke if you entirely whiff but not if you accidently knock it off the tee?
As I understand it, it's because you have attempted a stroke rather than just accidentally knocking it. Same principal as an air shot or "duffing" it in rough.
I find it confusing not being allowed to mark my ball on the green placing the the marker in front of the ball. I've always thought it better as I can't place the ball any nearer to the hole as I place it behind the marker. I've noticed some people gain up to an inch when replacing the ball in front of the marker traditionally placed behind the ball.
Your obligation is to put the ball back exactly where it was. It’s probably more a convention to put the marker behind the ball. You’d hate to put your marker in front and then ACCIDENTALLY put your ball in front of the marker. People might talk.
Scenario: You've battered your ball OOB off the 1st tee, you then take a drop, then knock the ball off the tee. Are you still playing 4 from the ground? Or do you re-tee it and hit 3 from the tee?
on accidentally moving the ball, the confusing part is do you replace it or not. In the bunker with water, taking maximum possible relief dropping on the slopey edge and it keeps rolling back into the water ( this is ridiculous by the way IMO) can you place it? When did practicing in a stroke play competition on a green you have just played change?
If the ball is moved accidentally by the player, you always replace it to its original position, if the position is not know you must estimate as close as possible. In a bunker when taking maximum available relief, after 2 drops the ball moves back into the abnormal course condition, then you place the ball where it dropped the second time. The practicing during a round of stroke play has been like that for a long time, it wasn’t one of the 2019 changes, I’m not sure if it’s always been like that that or if it’s been changed at some point. I think golfers get mixed up on it though between practicing before a round and during a round, they seem to apply the rules for before a round to both
@@ajcgolf69 many thanks- I should point out that you were always in my memory in a stroke play round able to practice pitching on or near teh next tee, but not putting or chipping at the last green? when did that change
@@ajaytuk7416 It has been like that since at least the 96 rules when I played junior golf. The caveat is you may practice on the putting green of the hole last played unless doing so unreasonably delays play. In competitions, if the next tee was clear, we would go to the next tee. If it was backed up, we would practice putting on the green.
Waterlogged bunker - 1) can you drop near the hole if everywhere in the bunker not nearer the hole is underwater? 2) if the entire bunker is flooded what is the rule? Thanks
Hello Andy - no, you can't drop nearer the hole and you would have to drop out under penalty unless model Local Rule F-16 was in force (allows specific bunkers to be treated as GUR rather than bunkers)
on an island hole, if the balls hits the island and bounces into water can you take a drop from the island? Does this vary if marked with yellow or red stakes? Thanks :)
If the penalty area around the island green is yellow, your options would be (1) back-on-the-line relief, keeping the point where the ball last crossed the penalty area between the flag and where you drop (within 1 club length no closer to the hole), (2) stroke and distance, or (3) if the Committee has adopted Model Local Rule E-1, in a dropping zone. If the penalty area surrounding the island green is red, the player would have the 3 options above and lateral relief of 2 club lengths no closer to the hole
@@funkyblues09 Not sure what you mean. If you mean dropping on the island green, it depends. If it’s yellow, no. If it’s red, maybe lateral if the relief area is no closer to the hole. If not, drop zone or stroke and distance. If you are referring to the 17th at Sawgrass, it’s yellow. And the options are retee or drop in the dropping zone.
First, you would need a RED Lateral Penalty Area. Second, the Ball would have had to have made contact with the Ground in a "Safe Area" before crossing the Margin. Third, you would have to find a legal Point of Relief on the Island or "Sorry!"
I’m pretty confused about balls going “out of bounds” vs going into the woods and becoming unplayable due to trees (unable to take a legitimate swing at it), but you have located the ball. Is one of these a one stroke penalty and the other a 2 stroke penalty? This is for me and my friends who often hit the ball in the woods/OB. When is it 1 stroke and when is it 2 strokes? When does it have to be stroke and distance?
Both are 1 stroke (unless you take an unplayable back-on-the-line relief outside a bunker when your ball lies in a bunker, in which case it’s for 2 penalty strokes). OB is stroke and distance (have to hit another from last spot). Unplayable you have option of (1) stroke and distance, (2) back on line (keeping spot where ball is between where you drop and the hole with no limit on how far back you can go, (3) lateral relief within 2 club lengths no closer to hole), or (4) if in bunker, outside of bunker back on the line for 2 strokes.
@@rfsilv02 awesome, thanks for the reply. How about when you have another unplayable ball in the woods where you can’t swing at it or hope to get it completely out because you are about 15 yards into thicker woods. In this case 2 club lengths doesn’t really help, so what would you do? Are you forced to try and hit it? Or can you drop it at the edge of the woods for additional strokes of penalty? What if your ball goes in the water but you can’t tell because it’s behind a slope and you don’t hit a provisional? I’ve seen a local rule for dropping and taking a 2 stroke penalty.
@@aaronh.917 hi Aaron, If you are in the woods and options 2 and 3 described above, so 2 club lengths & back on line with the flag, don’t get you the desired relief, then your only option is to go back to where you played your last shot from under stroke and distance. Or try and play the shot from where it lies of course. So if in this scenario it was your tee shot into the woods, you would go back to the tee, incur a one stroke penalty and be hitting your 3rd from the tee. For the second scenario, if you can be virtually certain that the only place your call could be lost is in a penalty area like a water hazard, then you can take relief under stroke and distance, or relief from the penalty area. If you aren’t certain the ball is in the water hazard, say if there was some long grass or bushes where it could be lost, then you’d have to go back under stroke and distance
I guess they start from the perspective that it's simpler to prohibit play from a wrong green completely for fear of players taking all sorts of clubs to it and damaging it. I have suggested in another video we've produced that it could perhaps be allowed if you were going to use a putter so you don't have to go through the process of taking relief and dropping, but I don't think there are any plans to change things in that way
Some bunkers have been declared GUR due to heavy rain; does one take nearest point of relief no closer to the flag which can be lateral and more favorable for the next shot or does one go back to a relief area in the direction of the ball entering the bunker ? Thanks for these rules updates.
@@macmcdade5071 I would say not so, as you are not affecting your _lie_ in any way whatsoever. You are, however, affecting your _line of play_ , so there may be something there.
Rule 17 f is clear:A player must ensure that the cheese n pickle sandwich with a dab of garlic Mayonnaise,that has been in the bag for longer than four hours must be consumed before the bunker on the famous 13 th,now,and this is important,pay as you play Bogan types must register their interest in consuming last night's Vin daloo ,before the fourth green!!yup,horrific bang of those golf bags!!!
If you hit your ball towards water, but do not see it go in, then you hit a provisional ball, take a penalty stroke and then go and see if you can find your first ball. If you find it did not go into the water, then that ball stays in play, you play it, pick up the provisional ball and remove the one stroke penalty. If it has gone into the water, then you move to your provisional ball and that then becomes the ball in play. If you see your ball go into the water, then you can go to the waters edge and place a new ball at the point of entry into the water and play on, incurring a one stroke penalty. Hope that explains it to you.
@@BatMan-xr8gg thanks, but what happens if I find my first ball in the hazard, but playable? Can I play it picking up the provisional, or should I pick it up with 1 penalty stroke and carry on the provisional?
@@annefilippobertozzi7601 If you find your first ball in a hazard, and you can play that where it lies, then you play that and pick up your provisional without a penalty. If you find your first ball in a hazard, but not playable, then you must take a drop with that ball no nearer the hole, and take a one stroke penalty. The provisional ball is only in case you hit a bad shot, and are unsure if you will find it or not. If you don't find your first one, then the provisional ball comes into play with the penalty stroke. If you find your first one, then you must play that. Being in a hazard does not stop you from playing the first one. Cheers
Would have been better if you actually said what the penalty is for each of these situations ⛳️ Also you didn’t say if you had to replace the ball when it moved 🤔
The very first one they show (ball moving by grounding the club,) isn't explained very well... Yes we incur a penalty for moving the ball, but what does one do next...?? Not explained at all. Do we replace the ball to its original spot, or play it were it comes to rest..? Still not wiser. These vids are supposed to help.
If You CAUSED the Movement - you must Replace and add 1 Penalty Stroke. If The BALL Moved "on its own" - Play it from the New Position - NO Penalty. *On the Green* - once Marked And Replaced the Ball is ALWAYS Returned to the "Marked Spot" for ANY Movement, other than an Intended Stroke, without Penalty.
The water in bunker rules is just stupid it not the golfers fault the bunker is full of water, and a 1 shot penalty to drop out the bunker is nuts. If a bunker has more than 50% water is should be GUR.
Many people feel that, but the counter argument is that a free drop would mean you are getting away scot-free from something that is meant to be a hazard in nature if not in name any more.
I’m sure I remember an old rule that if the bunker was so full of water that you couldn’t take relief then you were allowed to drop the ball, without penalty, in a different bunker on the course as long as it was not closer to the hole. ????? That would make sense and be fair.
I mean they are just giving rules to people who might want them if they want to play in tournaments later, or if they want to score the right way. No harm done in explaining rules
I suppose the logic is maybe to cover waste areas that you might get in desert courses? So that people can’t move sand away to improve their lie? Other than that yeah I don’t really get that one. But I suppose the rule is loose sand and soil so it must be to stop people improving their lie because loose sand and soil are considered natural
I really like these videos. Just one comment, could you always clearly state what the penalty is for infringements. Sometimes it's one shot, sometimes two. For me that is the hardest thing to remember.
Lost balls, balls in hazards or out of bounds, when is a ball lost and the penalties and procedure to follow on such an occurrence. A video on that would be greatly welcomed.
As has been previously mentioned it would be helpful if JEREMY advised the penalty incurred should a breach of the rules had taken place.
Six more ways to make enemies on the course. (hehe)
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Instablaster.
Good to see you guys on the course - thanks for the awesome rules video with Jezzz
Question on point one. If your course has the preferred lie rule in place. So you pick up your ball,etc then place it in your preferred lie, and the at some stage after that it moves. What is the rule then ?
That depends on whether or not you caused the Ball to move after it was back in play.
If YOU caused the Movement - Replace and add 1 Penalty Stroke.
If The BALL moved "on its own" leave It where It ends up (as long as it is still playable) and play from there - NO Penalty.
Good info.
Good to know these rules, but why did you not specify the penalties or corrective procedures for infraction of these rules?
Very insightful. Thanks fellas!
So I can take relief closer to the pin when there is water in the bubker and no relief area is available that is behind the ball?
drop from a cart path when it is not to your advantage, from a hazard to a cart path, what can you clear/repair in from of you off the green, "taking a fair stance" and bending back branches under/in a tree to hit a shot
Is your name really tapin? That's such a brilliant golf name
You know, no one has ever mentioned that before!
The rules can be mind-boggling confusing. Thanks for clearing up a little. The bunker one, I'd say nobody would follow that right; I might even say the fair thing for the average player is to drop it out because only someone that really knows the rules would even consider that ruling--water like that usually means Winter Rules. I've seen Sergio Garcia get a relief IN A HAZARD from a sign that he claimed was on his line of play, and another pro not get relief from much more sensible situations. Silly game.
Very nice deep bunker shot.
What if two greens are physically joined and your ball comes to rest on the wrong half? How would putting from the wrong green apply in that case?
On your bunker relief you placed your ball closer to the pin as it was the only place dry is this right please
On number 2, if Neil had hit his ball to the side of the green and there was no sand on his line of play, and then Jez had hit a bunker shot resulting in that sand finishing where it did in the video, then Neil would have been able to remove the sand under 8.1d to restore the original conditions when his ball came to rest
This was even covered by these two same people in an older video.
Same old crap from same old boring nuffys.
You are right
@@scottmckeon5542 Boring and crap enough for you to have watched at least two of their videos (proven by the fact that you know detail about what was in the other one), and then took the time to read the comments and respond...
I see what you did there.
If a ball on a tee isn't considered to be in play then why would it count as a stroke if you entirely whiff but not if you accidently knock it off the tee?
As I understand it, it's because you have attempted a stroke rather than just accidentally knocking it. Same principal as an air shot or "duffing" it in rough.
I find it confusing not being allowed to mark my ball on the green placing the the marker in front of the ball. I've always thought it better as I can't place the ball any nearer to the hole as I place it behind the marker. I've noticed some people gain up to an inch when replacing the ball in front of the marker traditionally placed behind the ball.
Your obligation is to put the ball back exactly where it was. It’s probably more a convention to put the marker behind the ball. You’d hate to put your marker in front and then ACCIDENTALLY put your ball in front of the marker. People might talk.
Scenario: You've battered your ball OOB off the 1st tee, you then take a drop, then knock the ball off the tee.
Are you still playing 4 from the ground? Or do you re-tee it and hit 3 from the tee?
on accidentally moving the ball, the confusing part is do you replace it or not. In the bunker with water, taking maximum possible relief dropping on the slopey edge and it keeps rolling back into the water ( this is ridiculous by the way IMO) can you place it? When did practicing in a stroke play competition on a green you have just played change?
If the ball is moved accidentally by the player, you always replace it to its original position, if the position is not know you must estimate as close as possible.
In a bunker when taking maximum available relief, after 2 drops the ball moves back into the abnormal course condition, then you place the ball where it dropped the second time.
The practicing during a round of stroke play has been like that for a long time, it wasn’t one of the 2019 changes, I’m not sure if it’s always been like that that or if it’s been changed at some point. I think golfers get mixed up on it though between practicing before a round and during a round, they seem to apply the rules for before a round to both
@@ajcgolf69 many thanks- I should point out that you were always in my memory in a stroke play round able to practice pitching on or near teh next tee, but not putting or chipping at the last green? when did that change
@@ajaytuk7416 like I said I don’t remember it changing, I found an article describing it in 2017 so if it did change it was definitely before then
@@ajaytuk7416 It has been like that since at least the 96 rules when I played junior golf. The caveat is you may practice on the putting green of the hole last played unless doing so unreasonably delays play. In competitions, if the next tee was clear, we would go to the next tee. If it was backed up, we would practice putting on the green.
Waterlogged bunker - 1) can you drop near the hole if everywhere in the bunker not nearer the hole is underwater? 2) if the entire bunker is flooded what is the rule? Thanks
Hello Andy - no, you can't drop nearer the hole and you would have to drop out under penalty unless model Local Rule F-16 was in force (allows specific bunkers to be treated as GUR rather than bunkers)
The temporary water rule seems odd. Tour events would likely be called in such conditions but amateurs are expected to play out of this?
You two would be tough company. Love the videos, though.
on an island hole, if the balls hits the island and bounces into water can you take a drop from the island? Does this vary if marked with yellow or red stakes?
Thanks :)
If the penalty area around the island green is yellow, your options would be (1) back-on-the-line relief, keeping the point where the ball last crossed the penalty area between the flag and where you drop (within 1 club length no closer to the hole), (2) stroke and distance, or (3) if the Committee has adopted Model Local Rule E-1, in a dropping zone. If the penalty area surrounding the island green is red, the player would have the 3 options above and lateral relief of 2 club lengths no closer to the hole
@@rfsilv02 So can you drop it from the island?
@@funkyblues09 Not sure what you mean. If you mean dropping on the island green, it depends. If it’s yellow, no. If it’s red, maybe lateral if the relief area is no closer to the hole. If not, drop zone or stroke and distance. If you are referring to the 17th at Sawgrass, it’s yellow. And the options are retee or drop in the dropping zone.
First, you would need a RED Lateral Penalty Area. Second, the Ball would have had to have made contact with the Ground in a "Safe Area" before crossing the Margin.
Third, you would have to find a legal Point of Relief on the Island or "Sorry!"
In rule #5, can you step on or flatten the loose impediment?
No. You would be improving the conditions affecting the stroke. The sand on the putting green may be brushed away, however.
What a name for a golfer
I thought you can’t practice putting on the green after you played the hole during a stroke play competition
You can as long as you're not unduly delaying play behind you - no distinction between stroke play and match play
I’m pretty confused about balls going “out of bounds” vs going into the woods and becoming unplayable due to trees (unable to take a legitimate swing at it), but you have located the ball. Is one of these a one stroke penalty and the other a 2 stroke penalty? This is for me and my friends who often hit the ball in the woods/OB. When is it 1 stroke and when is it 2 strokes? When does it have to be stroke and distance?
Both are 1 stroke (unless you take an unplayable back-on-the-line relief outside a bunker when your ball lies in a bunker, in which case it’s for 2 penalty strokes). OB is stroke and distance (have to hit another from last spot). Unplayable you have option of (1) stroke and distance, (2) back on line (keeping spot where ball is between where you drop and the hole with no limit on how far back you can go, (3) lateral relief within 2 club lengths no closer to hole), or (4) if in bunker, outside of bunker back on the line for 2 strokes.
@@rfsilv02 awesome, thanks for the reply. How about when you have another unplayable ball in the woods where you can’t swing at it or hope to get it completely out because you are about 15 yards into thicker woods. In this case 2 club lengths doesn’t really help, so what would you do? Are you forced to try and hit it? Or can you drop it at the edge of the woods for additional strokes of penalty? What if your ball goes in the water but you can’t tell because it’s behind a slope and you don’t hit a provisional? I’ve seen a local rule for dropping and taking a 2 stroke penalty.
@@aaronh.917 hi Aaron,
If you are in the woods and options 2 and 3 described above, so 2 club lengths & back on line with the flag, don’t get you the desired relief, then your only option is to go back to where you played your last shot from under stroke and distance. Or try and play the shot from where it lies of course.
So if in this scenario it was your tee shot into the woods, you would go back to the tee, incur a one stroke penalty and be hitting your 3rd from the tee.
For the second scenario, if you can be virtually certain that the only place your call could be lost is in a penalty area like a water hazard, then you can take relief under stroke and distance, or relief from the penalty area.
If you aren’t certain the ball is in the water hazard, say if there was some long grass or bushes where it could be lost, then you’d have to go back under stroke and distance
Rule #6 you covered about not putting from an adjacent green - what justification is there for not allowing this in the rules?
I guess they start from the perspective that it's simpler to prohibit play from a wrong green completely for fear of players taking all sorts of clubs to it and damaging it. I have suggested in another video we've produced that it could perhaps be allowed if you were going to use a putter so you don't have to go through the process of taking relief and dropping, but I don't think there are any plans to change things in that way
Neil Tappin? ... Tap in? You gotta be having me on
Some bunkers have been declared GUR due to heavy rain; does one take nearest point of relief no closer to the flag which can be lateral and more favorable for the next shot or does one go back to a relief area in the direction of the ball entering the bunker ? Thanks for these rules updates.
Nearest point of complete relief no nearer to the hole, then take one club length, it could lateral or backwards just depends which is closest
On number 2, although I can't brush the lump of sand away, is there anything in the rules to stop me walking on it as long as I don't disturb my ball?
I'd say yes, as you are improving your lie.
@@macmcdade5071 I would say not so, as you are not affecting your _lie_ in any way whatsoever.
You are, however, affecting your _line of play_ , so there may be something there.
@@interestedbystander196 That's why we have rules. So they are simple to understand and follow. 😂
@@macmcdade5071 The words "rules", "golf", and "simple-to-follow" do not belong in the same sentence.
With regards to covid do these rules still apply? Like the bunkers (with or without water from rain)
Great tips but golf rules in some circumstances are still ridiculous on my eyes
As in not being able to wipe away sand? Rules need to be less arbitrary in my mind.
Gee has it been 2 months already. Didn't realise we were due for the rinse & repeat rules video so soon.
Next week must be about range finders again.
Did you know that it's illegal to use slope in tournaments?
Lol when you get stuck against the guy that doesn't care about awkwardness.
Rule 17 f is clear:A player must ensure that the cheese n pickle sandwich with a dab of garlic Mayonnaise,that has been in the bag for longer than four hours must be consumed before the bunker on the famous 13 th,now,and this is important,pay as you play Bogan types must register their interest in consuming last night's Vin daloo ,before the fourth green!!yup,horrific bang of those golf bags!!!
Just chip it off the green! hahahahaha
The most confusing one for me is the provisional ball when the ball in play might have ended up in a water hazard, but you’re not sure.
If you hit your ball towards water, but do not see it go in, then you hit a provisional ball, take a penalty stroke and then go and see if you can find your first ball. If you find it did not go into the water, then that ball stays in play, you play it, pick up the provisional ball and remove the one stroke penalty. If it has gone into the water, then you move to your provisional ball and that then becomes the ball in play. If you see your ball go into the water, then you can go to the waters edge and place a new ball at the point of entry into the water and play on, incurring a one stroke penalty.
Hope that explains it to you.
@@BatMan-xr8gg thanks, but what happens if I find my first ball in the hazard, but playable?
Can I play it picking up the provisional, or should I pick it up with 1 penalty stroke and carry on the provisional?
@@annefilippobertozzi7601 If you find your first ball in a hazard, and you can play that where it lies, then you play that and pick up your provisional without a penalty.
If you find your first ball in a hazard, but not playable, then you must take a drop with that ball no nearer the hole, and take a one stroke penalty. The provisional ball is only in case you hit a bad shot, and are unsure if you will find it or not.
If you don't find your first one, then the provisional ball comes into play with the penalty stroke. If you find your first one, then you must play that. Being in a hazard does not stop you from playing the first one. Cheers
@@BatMan-xr8gg thanks.
@@BatMan-xr8gg there is NO Provisional Ball allowed for a possible Ball in a Penalty Area. Hit your "Provisional" and that Ball is in play lying 3.
Would have been better if you actually said what the penalty is for each of these situations ⛳️ Also you didn’t say if you had to replace the ball when it moved 🤔
He did slip it in 😁 between his explanations
Thanks for the feedback - we did say replace the ball in all scenarios we mentioned in that clip
Ok sorry 🙂 better watch again ⛳️👍
Still confusing because you don't always say if its a stroke penalty or not.
The very first one they show (ball moving by grounding the club,) isn't explained very well... Yes we incur a penalty for moving the ball, but what does one do next...?? Not explained at all. Do we replace the ball to its original spot, or play it were it comes to rest..? Still not wiser. These vids are supposed to help.
Christophe - we say you must replace the ball before playing on at 1m 10s into the video...
If You CAUSED the Movement - you must Replace and add 1 Penalty Stroke.
If The BALL Moved "on its own" - Play it from the New Position - NO Penalty.
*On the Green* - once Marked And Replaced the Ball is ALWAYS Returned to the "Marked Spot" for ANY Movement, other than an Intended Stroke, without Penalty.
No way your name is actually Tappin
Sorry but rules like rule no1 are what deter people from the game.
The water in bunker rules is just stupid it not the golfers fault the bunker is full of water, and a 1 shot penalty to drop out the bunker is nuts. If a bunker has more than 50% water is should be GUR.
Many people feel that, but the counter argument is that a free drop would mean you are getting away scot-free from something that is meant to be a hazard in nature if not in name any more.
I’m sure I remember an old rule that if the bunker was so full of water that you couldn’t take relief then you were allowed to drop the ball, without penalty, in a different bunker on the course as long as it was not closer to the hole. ????? That would make sense and be fair.
remind me not to play golf with you guys - would be very annoying awkward round haha
I mean they are just giving rules to people who might want them if they want to play in tournaments later, or if they want to score the right way. No harm done in explaining rules
Just don't invite Jeremy. Job done lol
Loose sand is not a loose impediment...
Thats why some of these rules are terrible
I suppose the logic is maybe to cover waste areas that you might get in desert courses? So that people can’t move sand away to improve their lie? Other than that yeah I don’t really get that one.
But I suppose the rule is loose sand and soil so it must be to stop people improving their lie because loose sand and soil are considered natural
You don’t like the definition..? And therefore it’s a terrible rule...?
@@petermcgill1315 its a stupid rule and definition
@@WillySnakes good to know.
Loose Sand is a Loose Impediment on a Green only.