Intentional Disregard
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Intentional disregard, Maybe considered the reason for not doing anything, when there is the need for a little maintenance, all equipment wears after time but doing nothing can lead to the extremes. This project displays some signs of that. We start off with an over view of what might be repaired and what needs to be replaced on a worn out, quick connect attachment on an old skid-steer. Welding and machining starts off at the PlasmaCAM.
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Interesting unique work, always a pleasure to watch skilled craftsmen work. Keep up the great work, Keith.
Amazing work Keith, really looking forward to the rest of this series!!!!
Great profile copy technique, yes, definitely in need of some repair, or life saving 🤔.
Thanks for sharing.
Loved all of the double entendres in the opening monologue. Too funny - but humor can get you thru the difficult times.
Nice to see the old table in use again. First video of yours I watched was when you sanded down a cylinder head or some such on sand paper on that table. Regards
Hi Keith, This remind me so of "I heard some strange noises", Merry Christmas.
I'm glad I took better care of my Bobcat; I think I'll send a link to this video to the guy I sold it to, just to keep him on the true maintenance path.
It looks a little worn. Looking forward to see it fixed with a little bit of your massage! ;)
Sure doesn't help the pivot on the right having the one ram so close to it. All the torque is magnified there. I bet the wear would have been more even if it was centered in the bucket. And some grease would have helped. LOL.
Well i think its safe to say the owner got maximum value before it needed repairing. Be interesting to see how poor condition the rest of the machine is in.
Hi Keith! Maybe you answered already, but why the change in your opening tagline? Merry Xmas and Happy New Year
I'm curious as to why you didn't cut the hole (a little undersized for machining to final bore size), on the plasma table?
Keith can't pierce 1" with 60 amp plasma torch.
Your paper drawing gives ideas of creating .dxf file with DesignEdge. Thanks!
Probably would be cheaper to buy a new plate than repair that one. That thing is toast!
That goes to the JCB skid steer with the mono boom.
Looks like the sort of a job that turns up at my door on a regular basis :)
Ill make out the initial curvature by bending a welding wire, then tranfer shape onto paper with a quick spray can
The three dreaded words.......See you on the next one
Ya ,, never ask her to do more without lube ..... its a disaster
enjoyed....I like using blue tape for copying a part, start at the base and lapping/build up layers towards the top, then hammer/knife trim like a gasket, lift the tape pattern of the part, takes the guessestimate adjusting out since it is following the part.....lift off tape and transfer to part or scanner
You should weld it with dual shield for a change People don’t show enough of that and a lot really don’t even know what it is.
Just a slight bit of wear !
That plasmacutter really is an incredible machine. What would take hours to cut and grind by hand is done in minutes on the machine.
And you can store and repeat the shape as many times you wish.
This looks like a very interesting restoration job, which really involves most of the different skills that makes you a professional machinist.
Thanks for sharing Mr Fenner.
Cut in 2 min with gas torch
@@9534alex Yes I know. You are an incredible Superman. And you wont even need to finish up the part after gas cutting.
You are a real pro, best in the world, like your President 🤣🤣🤣
No need to get defensive I was just stating maybe a more low tech way th do the job I'm not by any means the best despite my efforts and finally my president? I'm not American
@@9534alex is right ,,, Well thats how it was done by me and many others ,, year in year out ,, plasma is only out 30 years , and flame cutting is very efficient ,, nothing against this method by Keith,, just there are other ways to skin the cat . and if your doing more than a ONE off , its then the savings come into play ....
"Intentional Disregard" Great title to a great project video series Kieth.
Any thoughts as to why one ear has extreme wear and the other still has a partial bushing left? Maybe the machine that hooks to that is kitty wampus?
Hydraulics are only on the one side so it concentrated the force there. Likely it's off a JCB or similar one arm machine that doesn't have any provisions for another cylinder.
Looks like the type of jobs I usually get! It is going to be a lot of welding and grinding to salvage that pivot ear. I think I would be tempted to just use the plasma to cut a new one of those too. Even if it was too think and I had to cut it out of 2 plates and sandwich them together. I think it would be faster and cleaner repair.
Howdy
CAD - Cardboard Assisted Design.
[Edit] Re. the Sharpie on the template: I do the reverse and put a bit of black card on top to give a dark background to scan against.
Thats a good tip!
@@imagineaworld Has other uses. When scanning a double-sided page on thin paper it stops print on the reverse bleeding through as everything on that side is now black.
I guess Im pretty off topic but does anybody know a good website to stream newly released series online?
@Joseph Westin I watch on flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@Westley Clayton Yea, been watching on Flixzone for since april myself :)
What a treat for morning coffee. Kieth, thanks so much for sharing your projects. Have a Merry Christmas!
Holy crap!!! I'm a mechanic for equipment rental company, I've seen cases of wear and neglected , but this definitely takes the prize!!!!!!!!
I think it was 1973 our crew forman and I went from Kansas City south to about Nevada, MO to pick up a back hoe and 1 1/2 ton or 2 ton truck from a crew that had finished their project. When we got both vehicles back to KC we had to take each in for major rebuild as the front end was gone and hardly steerable on the truck and the end of the stick the bucket attached to was so wollowed out none of the bushings were there. The truck front end was about $1500 to $2000 and the backhoe had to have a new end welded on with all new bushings and new pins plus other work to the tune of about $3500. The company put the worn, mangled pieces in the bucket so we could see the damage. For the want of a $15 grease gun and the omph to use it all this damage was done.
Hello Keith, This is very timely for me as I am in the process of rebuilding a worn out clamshell bucket. Similar problems as your piece, bushings completely gone and lots of parent material missing. I am looking forward to seeing how you bore out the ears you just cut as I have a similar job on my bucket. Thanks, Ken
Hi Keith,looks like a 15,000 dollar replacement part.If you decide to weld on new brackets i have a 600 amp arc welder im not useing.haha.
Dang Keith . this video is far to short .just getting hooked on seeing how you approach this repair .Oh well part 2 S.A.P.
Mr. Fenner, I am sure you will Getter Done, but I was literally cringing while watching the intro where you explained what that thing is and the damage done to it. Man, oh man! Cheers!
Michael Ogden: Your right, was saying to self - damn that was abused to the nines. Total lack of respect to the machine & it working parts. No call for it if just a little TLC was used & Brains!
Skid steer, for those (few, like me) who had no idea what it is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skid-steer_loader#/media/File:Skid_Loader_anim.gif
Had to wire my jaw back into position after watching the Plasma-Cam cut through that thick steel like it was butter. AMAZING!!
LOTS of torching, grinding and welding, the shop will need a good cleaning after that job, better consider it in the "Cost for the damages" that customer is going to pay for... 😱😉👍
Interesting project...!!!
Keith Keith Keith, it is about time to modernise a little bit.
Plasma cutter is so past nowadays.
You should learn This Old Tony’s karate chop when want to have steel parts done in odd shapes. Takes a second too and no set up.
Have a Merry Christmas,
Love your show Keith! Are you going to gouge it with the plasma? Some machines have that function... Ive actually never used that function myself and I think its often overlooked. maybe a UA-cam first hehe think of the views. cheers :-)
Another great video. Don't think I'll ever do a job such as that one. But every little bit of info can turn into a life saver down the road. Merry Christmas and take care.
Yep, you're having to make repairs in the extreme. Not your normal repair because of little or no maintenance. But, they will have to pay you for what you repair, not cheap. 😀
Thank you for sharing this video Keith
Along with the obvious repairs I think that this would be a great time to create the appropiate brackets to install a 2nd cylinder.
Man that plasma cut was nice for 1" thick. Was that really only 60 amps? That plasma-CAM is built here in colorado, is that right? If memory serves from old vid that is a ThermalArc Plasma cutter? Great vid. Thanks!
Equipment services (grease the pivots check engin oil and air filter) was the responsibility of the operator. every single time anything ceased up or fell apart the operator claimed it was greased before every shift and that they spent so much time doing so that they were unable to get any work done. So after many years of seeing things like the example you have . I have concluded grease is bad for equipment.
As far as the uneven wear is concerned, it only had one cylinder and that cylinder was one the side so the load is disporporational between the pivot points.
Lovely work Keith. Great content. Many thanks
Wow that is a fun job thanks for sharing we us
Man, those old Walker Turner tables are really something
looks like it has been away from the factory to long. Sort of fubar. Make like new so it can be busted again.
CAD - cardboard aided design! Love it!
Excellent 😎👍
Metal dissolving grease....Who makes this stuff? :)
I've seen guys improperly use anti seize as high temperature grease and it seems to have a similar effect over time, especially in dirty environments. MDG is an interesting concept however, cheers!
Just add diamond grit to your choice of grease
I work on the coastal plain. Grease mixes with sand and erodes everything. Same with sand and antiseize.
Is the chuckle at 16:22 because you now have the start of a template for a marlin (or other sailfish)?
Wow, that thing looks like it was built heavy enough but man, did they destroy that poor thing! It looks like the operator was just pounding on it and his supervisors just let him go at it or told him to!
No maintenance to to point of becoming worn out. Then after it was nobody cared anymore.
Keith, you are an outstanding craftsman. Thank you.
Good project. Looking forward to the follow up.
Thanks for the video.
Great work. Great experience with plasma cam and software. I like the way you approach things. Great machinist Thank you
That thing has been ride hard. If it can be fuxed your the man for the kob. Hey keith where did you get your long reach vise grips. I have searched every store lowes home depot and cant find anything but small 7 in ones
You the best champ.! Greetings from Craftman in Denmark. You my man,. Merry X Mas and Happy new year
Shameless plug! X) thanks for the upload spud!! That piece of equipment is what we like to call, wallered the hell out!
I enjoy your approach to making new parts. Waiting to see the rest of the repairs
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
"One of them's a little noisy" - proceeds using a tool that's several times as noisy. @29:55
Really nice fab design lesson, remember the old days of torch and grind? Nice work Keith!
Another interesting episode. Rebuilding things you just can't buy any more saves a lot of valuable "cores" from the scrap heap.
Rather than using a Sharpie to darken the material, you could spray-paint it. Or you could use black paper and a silver Sharpie. Funny to see you "sneaker net" the files, rather than put either thing on a network like the CNC guys. Old school still works for lower batch volumes.
Who made the computer cabinet? Interesting to see the speakers and such; unique for a "machine driver" computer, though I'll bet you'd be able to use 1/2 as deep nowadays.
I ran a Torchmate. It went to 100 amp and could only cut up to 3/4.
I find it interesting that you can cut 1" with 60 amps.
What are you using for drying air?
I really wished I had dry air! I could hear it when a slug of water went through the plasma. The owner had no clue how to run the machine. I learned from the ground up how to run it.
I thought that plasma table was for up to a 1/4" at best. Had no idea it could cut that well at an inch thick.
@MIDBC1 Wow!
Very common on the "Quick Attach" components industry. Too convenient to the Operators to worry about adequate lubrication & 'wear & tear"of the equipment. Cutting new pieces & attaching new 'bosses' is easy. The line-boring for bushing fit & alignment is where the details really comes to bear. $$$$$$$
Since the black gives you a better contrast for the scanning, maybe try a white paint pen on black paper. I haven't completely switched to paint pens, from Sharpies, but are using paint pens for about half of what I used to do with Sharpies.
Sharpie makes a good paint pen. Dykem makes them as well. The paint pens that have been around for a long, the yellow ones used in wrecking yards, (can't recall the brand name), tend to leak, and get messy real quick. (especially if you forget to re-cap and then shake it. there's a selection of different colored spatter in various places around the shop, which prompted me to stop buying that brand.)
The Sharpie brand paint pens don't seem to do that. Haven't used the Dykems enough to know about them. All of the brands make regular and fine point paint pens, the fine are better for smaller lettering/numbering and pattern making. I usually get both.
Something I've done which I couldn't do with felt pens is institute a color code for fasteners. Red is metric. SS is blue. It sure helps when you're putting away used fasteners, and looking for them, later. I even went as far as buying red and blue shelf bins. Just couldn't do it with felt pens.
Hope this helps ya.
Nice to see Brian Bloc is the only one to get into the heavy stuff :-)
Beautiful work as always Keith, I will look forward to the next installment :-) Best regards and have a great Xmas.
Another job well done sir! What would folks who treat equipment like that do without folks like you!
Doing PM costs money, both from grease and bushings and from down time.
That's always the excuse I heard from people. That's when I smile, and they cry...at the repair bill.
Damn! Who chooses what ads get run? I gotta watch a Joe Frigging Biden ad? That's 5 seconds I'll never get back. 😞
Wow!!!!!!!!! I've seen and operated some really old, neglected and some that had just plain piss poor preventative maintenance done or not done to equipment a whole lot larger and a lot more powerful than tinker toy bobcat sized machines in the last 40 or so years. But I gotta say I haven't seen anything that bad before. So damn much slop in the pins and gaping holes long after the bushings finally got ground down to dust that the eye's on the hydraulic ram ends were wearing themselves and the steel on that quick change. Damage that severe takes multiple years and hundreds of thousands of cycles to wear out that much steel. I could see that happening by doing destructive part testing on purpose in a lab maybe. But accomplishing the same thing day after day on job sites? The "operator" must of been blind, deaf plus neanderthal grade ignorant about the cost savings and benefits of using some grease more than once a decade.:-)
Not as bad as some i've seen, but still, a big job. Kinda reminds me of our third scraper we bought, paid around 5k for it, because of its poor state of disrepair, shot engine (turned out to be a seized pump) and general lack of maintenance. Initially for spares, but our savvy guy figured that it was a good machine under all the abuse. You should've seen the waller in the joints, i swear, on the rams, you could probably fit one and a half shafts, and when we got it, there was a piece of wood parquet stuck in to make up the slack. :))
Nearly 40 years in construction and handyman'ng and I come to learn there 2 designs in scrapwood knock together saw horses.
And Keith has one style right there on display at 1:10.
The other is as varied as everyone's opinion.
There are no plans, neither ever was a how-to lesson... just something handed down by sight til it's firmly rooted in our DNA.
Good to see with all their cuts here in use in a machining shop
Keith, speaking of letting things go for too long....
Don't you think it's about time to replace that socket retaining ring on your impact anvil? It drives me nuts when a socket keeps falling off over and over and over again. 😏
Looking forward to seeing the next chapter.
Keith I cant believe what a good job the plasma cam did on metal that thick
joe tiller, I wonder what the company says is the maximum that plasma cutter can cut, probably 3/4” and Mr Fenner pushes it to a full inch and makes it look like there’s nothing to it!
Why is it going to be a sexual thing I was sitting here with my son trying to watch a get red in the face. What is your problem just keep it professional! I can't provide wholesome good content without equating it to marriages and lube. the reason I typically like watching is because you keep it one hundred percent professional until just that one comment that's unwelcome.
An impact wrench produces maximum torque during the first three strikes . Running the wrench continuesly is stupid . You should pull the trigger in short bursts for maximum effect .
Great work Keith, thanks for sharing, really enjoying the project thus far. Merry Christmas from Across The Pond.
Keith, Intentionally Disregard in all directions this could be a miracle in the making if it ever going to function again. Enjoyed the video thanks for sharing.!.!.!.
I love your videos, Keith. Did you get a new shop?
Greetings from London, UK.
It looked like from the cracking that the ribs gets plenty of stress. What alloy steel did you choose for the new ribs, A36?
I'm with you Keith on the blame game. Somebody didn't do their job we have work orders in our company and they are followed up on. Great video
using a camera to record measurements is an excellent way of getting readings that would take quite a bit of time to obtain and record. Genius!
makes me want a plasma cam set up.
Keith, nice CAD design before going to the PlasmaCam -- "Cardboard-Aided Design"! ;)
I can hear the maintenance monkey now "Well within tolerances... worked until it didn't..." Yike, there's more wallow than there was hole!!
Amazing that plasma cuts them pork chops that thick.
an easy cure for sockets that fall off or any driver is fold over a plastic bag and push the socket on using the bag as a shim. easy free and comes off again asap
I love these bigger, heavier jobs. Looking forward to the next episode.
Keith
Hell that is in good shape welder up and run it. I've seen this so much over the years it just doesn't surprise me. Good work.
Dolphins / Pork-chops to Skid-steer...you Sir are an alchemist..;-)
The plasma table is really worth its weight, and pulls its weight. Gonna be an overall interesting series.
Take it the owners didn’t want to pay for maintenance until they could get ‘value for money’?
I love this stuff. ready for the fix. good to see you Keith
Just need some apple sauce to go with those pork chops! Nice content and methodical approach to a project that has no drawings.
You might want to see if you can get some dust/dirt shields for those bushings which most tach systems use presently. This setup just sucks because once the lube system gets plugged up it requires a tear down to get it all clean up and working again. As a result it just gets "run on" until it gets like this. Admittedly this is the worst I have ever seen in 40 years!
Just wondering the grade of that 1" plate, doesn't look like A36, is it?
What a mess! Good luck with this one. Making that pattern..Wow..OK
What a train wreck! Talk about abuse and neglect. Going to be a project for sure.