History Student Reacts to The Second Punic War Part 2 | Oversimplified
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
- Today we watch The Second Punic War (Part 2) by Oversimplified.
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I hate what people tend to think about when it comes to Flaminius. They assume "now this is his time to prove himself to the upper class". No he already did that ten times over. Not only did he reach the tip top of the plebeian society but his ability got him all the way from there to Consul twice. He really was a Napoleon of the time. The thing is though he got that far because he was the hot-head people make him out to be, a rather useful trait in Roman society. It just doesn't work when facing Hannibal.
Exactly, he was a very hotheaded person and very typical Roman. He wanted glory he didn’t care what the senate thought and was hot blooded and very aggressive. Which means you’re also very easy to manipulate and fall for traps very easily as well. Which is exactly what Hannibal did, bait him and trap him, typical Roman behavior doesn’t work against him because he’ll use your ego and overconfidence against you and strength alone won’t be enough to win. That’s what separates other great generals like Cesar, Octavian etc. apart from others. They were smart enough to be calculating, be patient, take calculated risks, set traps of their own instead of just going head strong blindly into a battle.
Calling Flaminus "the Napoleon of his time" when Hannibal exists is crazy
I mean defend him all you want but he was still a moron at the end
10:10 when Hannibal recruits the Celts there’s a joke when he yells Yea Boii! The Boii were one of the Celtic tribes in cisalpine Gaul
A good allegory for just how devastating Cannae was for the Romans....
Imagine in one battle the United States lost 33 million men including the Vice President and 107 Congressmen. Absolutely something that every other nation would crumble from... Every nation except for Rome.
To be fair, that 20 percent is in regards to the populaton of Rome the city, which had between 400- and 500k people living in it by this time, so losing 30-40k roman prime-aged males (remember the army was half roman, half italian allies) is around a tenth of that, aka a fifth of the total potential manpower pool for the CITY of Rome. Not a fifth of all romans living in and around Rome´s home region of latium, its colonies across the peninsula, let alone all italians. And that´s where they will find the tens and hundreds of thousands of troops to replace even THIS loss and be back at ~80k under arms in a few short months. Their persistence really was one of a kind, bordering on the insane.
@@addickland5656 oh that's interesting. The video's wording suggested it was 20% of the entire Roman Republic not just the city.
@@jackhuston5298 Thing is, that would require the total population of Italy to be well under a million, when we know/estimate that it was in the mid-single-digit million range, so even accounting for high mortality rates and a longer lifespan, 20 percent is still off by an order of magnitude.
Still, MOST `roman` soldiers obviously came from the very city of Rome, so this loss very much was an existential threat to them. What sets Rome apart is not that they still had warm bodies, but that both the leadership and the masses were still willing to fight. And that both their fellow Latins (who probably made up a large chunk of that `allies` part of the army) and most of their other Italian allies were STILL willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
Rome´s ability, to both domestically be willing to keep raising armies whatever their losses, and to keep non-roman allies willing to fight under their banner even if it means their own fields and cities being ravaged, is TRULY remarkable. Many states and empires as multi-cultural as the roman confederation in Italy would (and did) fracture into warring camps when faced with an invader that won such massive victories in their home territory. And whatever elites were in charge of said alliance would either make peace before it came to that, refuse and be overthrown by a pro-peace faction, or dig in their heels and soon find themselfes alone and only in charge of their home city/region, with all other members/cities/regions having switched sides to the invader. That Rome managed to both maintain domestic cohesion AND a trans-cultural(!) united front with non-latin speakers 2000 years before the concept of nationalism in the face of Hannibal´s campaign, is honestly jaw-dropping, and beyond unique for the ancient world.
A 'Dictator' in Roman terms would be similar to a government declaring a 'state of emergency' today and assuming special powers they normally wouldn't have. So say a western leader declaring a 'state of emergency' is closer to a classical 'Dictator' as opposed to autocratic leaders who usually hold their power for very long periods or for life. Probably from Julius Caesar onwards the term started to have a negative connotation.
Very much Lincoln...
@@Thisandthat8908 Yip, and the situation he faced demanded it. Elections still took place in the US despite this however.
looking at Cannae in a more modern view german chief of staff/quartermaster general Ludendorf in WW1 was a HUGE Hannibal fan and with help from his good old friend incompetent enemys masterminded The Battle of Tannenberg in a verry similar fashion
I love how he breaks down what makes Hannibal so effective (like Napoleon).
I've watched a bunch of history reactors and you're probably the second best when it comes to adding context after VTH, this channel needs to grow - kudos!
I would be very surprised if it was actually oversimplified that was claiming these videos. I think they have some like advertising company or something that claims things on their behalf a lot of the time and they don't even know it. That has happened before. But oversimplified himself/themselves (not sure exactly how many people are involved ) is generally very supportive of reactors. In fact, in this very video, during the brief scene where Longus is giving Hannibal a swirly in the bathroom, there's a little shout out on the wall to Mr. Terry, another history reactor.
Exactly, oversimplified themselves are actually very kind people, and are cool with reactors and react channel’s. The copyright strikes are more so done automatically without their knowledge because of advertisements, which I understand why they need to keep the advertisements because that’s how they earn a profit through you tube along with views. But it just kind of sucks for the react channels as well.
@@leviuzumaki3903Also Oversimplified literally easteregged a react youtuber at the end of his first Punic war 1 videos. On the TV Hamilcars wife watches.
Yeah, I'm honestly surprised Oversimplified has stayed with that company. This keeps happening even though he's at least stopped them once with Vlogging Through History. They seem like a hassle at this point.
Oversimplified is one person
@@jamesgiles4517it’s brothers
I highly recommend oversimplified’s French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars videos!😄
I am very excited to see Scipio face Hannibal. I hope part 3 is like 50 minutes long so it can show how much Hannibal and Scipio's lives are intertwined, and how much Scipio was affected by him growing up.
My man! Love your videos!
And the encirclement at Cannae almost looks like a big smile.
just as i finished the first one
Same, excellent timing
To be fair, that 20 percent is in regards to the populaton of Rome the city, which had between 400- and 500k people living in it by this time, so losing 30-40k roman prime-aged males (remember the army was half roman, half italian allies) is around a tenth of that, aka a fifth of the total potential manpower pool for the CITY of Rome. Not a fifth of all romans living in and around Rome´s home region of latium or its colonies across the peninsula, let alone all male italians.
And spoiler alert, that´s where they will find the tens and hundreds of thousands of troops to replace even THIS loss and be back at ~80k under arms in a few short months.
Stil, their persistence really was one of a kind, bordering on the insane.
The Battle of Cannae is an example of kettling!
The position of dictator still sort of exists today. Our modern equivalent is to give our leader emergency powers. Same idea
Old McDonald had a farm.