Shady Sports Card Seller Hides Damage to Graded RPA? 🚨

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  • @BobBoozle
    @BobBoozle 2 місяці тому +6

    I agree. Would never want to do business with someone like that.

  • @SpiderSportsCards
    @SpiderSportsCards 2 місяці тому +13

    The way I see it is just because the person you deceive is an idiot doesn’t make it ok. The seller knew what they were doing with the sticker. Obviously the buyer needs to be more careful but Just because they didn’t know that the authentic grade and weird sticker spot was a red flag doesn’t make it ok to be a scumbag.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому +1

      Well said mate! Just because you can doesn’t mean you should!

  • @michaelli9857
    @michaelli9857 2 місяці тому +6

    This on is shady for sure. Damage should always be disclosed.

    • @Darthkeldean
      @Darthkeldean 2 місяці тому

      I agree but before throwing down $7,500 for a authentic card buyer must do some due diligence in questioning why authentic and flip card over where even a blind man would see the ding on back even if front is covered

  • @johnnypopsicle
    @johnnypopsicle 2 місяці тому +2

    They knew what they were doing. If the card isn't damaged card can always be submitted again. Too much money spent to not do a dummy check. When I was a truck driver, anytime before i got into the truck, I did a dummy check to make sure everything is in order. It shows desperation when you use a sticker to hide damage.

    • @Darthkeldean
      @Darthkeldean 2 місяці тому

      I agree but card was authentic why didn’t buyer question why it wasn’t graded and a basic flip over you would have seen that damage from behind. Buyer thought I won’t point out what a steal this is and buy it and grade and flip. Seller was scummy and buyer didn’t care about his money to look over card. I don’t have money to waste so any card over $50 I look over to see if there damage but to buyer 7,500 for upgraded card wasn’t worth a look over

  • @MasterShake300
    @MasterShake300 2 місяці тому +3

    The buyer was gonna flip it. The hustler got hustled. Womp womp.

    • @starscreamjesse2121
      @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, Buyer was being greedy and was only thinking about himself and money.

    • @TheJakeMarc
      @TheJakeMarc 2 місяці тому +1

      @@starscreamjesse2121 Comments like this are so stupid. Guy who does cards for a living was trying to make money. No fucking shit. Because of that he deserves to get scammed?

    • @starscreamjesse2121
      @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

      @@TheJakeMarc He does it for a living and doesn't take the time to check on a 7K deal? If he worked for me I would let him go.

  • @crangel4246
    @crangel4246 2 місяці тому

    There are a lot of people who find cards underpriced and blindly take a gamble hoping it’s not damaged … they don’t check for damage in front of the dealer because it tips off the dealer how interested u are and your intent/purpose

  • @sttdb3780
    @sttdb3780 2 місяці тому +2

    I too would like to know the seller. He was obviously hiding the damage to make a buck. Lets find out who it was..please

  • @3FiresSports
    @3FiresSports 2 місяці тому +2

    If I come to your table to buy, I shouldn’t have to remove all price stickers to check for damage. That’s ridiculous. This dealer is a scum bag and should be called out.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Exactly, he should have said something too. Super untrustworthy

    • @plecoguy
      @plecoguy 2 місяці тому

      You couldn't flip it over and see the damage from the back?if you are dumb enough to drop thousands on a card without checking it out, that's on you

  • @chriskrumenauer3126
    @chriskrumenauer3126 2 місяці тому +1

    Spot on with this one Dan

  • @LetsStormTheTeaCupRide
    @LetsStormTheTeaCupRide 2 місяці тому +2

    Both are at fault IMO but what this seller did was just scummy and I am shocked nobody will bring the sellers name out public. The ultimate penalty for this seller is to be known for what he did when he shamefully sets up at shows.

  • @TheHungryHobo
    @TheHungryHobo 2 місяці тому +1

    If I seen a price tag in the bottom right corner of a card I'd be suspicious, who puts price on the bottom? heck covering any corner or part of the edges I'd want to check it over closer, especially if paying more than $20 for a card... And if the seller has other cards and this is the only one that has a tag on the bottom right. And also any PSA card that is in a slab but doesn't have a grade tells you it's damage... so there's many red flags for the buyer... Obviously the seller shouldn't be trying to hide it either, but meh, a fool and his money are easily parted :P

  • @williewoodall8305
    @williewoodall8305 2 місяці тому +1

    That buyer should've known better. I've been collecting cards for 40 plus years..I have never seen that "price-tag-placement"
    Before...

    • @buddyc8963
      @buddyc8963 2 місяці тому +2

      You sound like if you were a Seller you would put the sticker over the damage also.

    • @starscreamjesse2121
      @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

      correct. don't give sympathy to buyers that throw around big money on cards without checking them out. This guy's greed got him caught up.

  • @gregorysmith3405
    @gregorysmith3405 2 місяці тому

    There’s no excuse for this on the buyers side either. Especially having the card in hand. Come on buyer.
    The seller is a complete scumbag too.

  • @DrippyDad24
    @DrippyDad24 2 місяці тому

    The first thing i noticed was there was no grade.... Buyer should have done homework. Also the seller is not in it for the hobby... Just making dirty deals. This is just my opinion

  • @buffalodean
    @buffalodean 2 місяці тому

    Keep the trash bags in check! You da man!

  • @JAFOsportscard
    @JAFOsportscard 2 місяці тому

    The eBay consignment seller sold the card raw July 2 with no disclosure of damage for over $8900. They listed card as excellent condition which it’s far from. The description says all cars are free of major defects unless specified in title. The card then appears to have been sent to PSA for authentication and resold with consignment company listing damage for just over $4400 August 5. In my opinion, the first sale was shady for lack of disclosure and I wouldn’t doubt there was shill bidding happening. It would be interesting to check out both sales checking for signs of shill bidding. Thank you for great video.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      From what I’ve gathered so far they both may have been bought by same person implying shill bidding?

  • @crangel4246
    @crangel4246 2 місяці тому

    The reality is whoever put the price tag on it was dishonest and the buyer was partially dishonest bc he knew it was underpriced and tried to take advantage … I’m sure the dealer he bought from was also scammed … he probably thought it was mint and traded at full value instead of trading at the 4500 damaged comp

  • @shmokolo9991
    @shmokolo9991 2 місяці тому

    Much smaller purchase, but i bought a $50 card that was in a top loader. I recieved the card and noticed a severe dent in the card. I pulled up the auction photo and saw that there was glare RIGHT where the damage was. The seller mader sure to angle the card to use reflection of light on the top loader to cover the damage, and no mention in the description. One of the few cards I returned over the years.

  • @35auburn
    @35auburn 2 місяці тому +1

    Still interested to know who the seller was.
    Interestingly, the ebay seller who listed the psa auth copy (with damage disclosed), had also sold the damaged card raw, without disclosure.
    $4500~ with disclosure, $9000~ without.

  • @SportsCardCollectorChronicles
    @SportsCardCollectorChronicles 2 місяці тому

    It is shady that the seller did that unless of course you look at their case and every sticker is placed on the bottom right corner of each card. Do I think that was the case? Na… I think they knew exactly what they were doing and that is messed up. Would have been some kind of red flag that it in an Authentic slab and not graded. Buyer should have asked to pull it from the sleeve, especially at the price point I am sure they paid for this card. We are not talking about a 20- or 50-dollar card. I am not blaming the buyer though; I can see how they would not expect the seller did what they did. Cold man. Also much props for them to post about this knowing people were going to poke fun etc. but getting the lesson out there.

  • @IRsoBasic
    @IRsoBasic 2 місяці тому

    Shady for sure, the fact these guys want to bitch about being done dirty but never want to call the people who did it out for being greasy is not ok. If this dealer was a breaker he would be all over social media as a scum bag.

  • @officialghetty
    @officialghetty 2 місяці тому +1

    Why won’t anyone say who the seller is ? It’s so weird usually ppl get called out quick. But they are keeping this dealer a secret for some reason …

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Buyer hasn’t disclosed it

    • @officialghetty
      @officialghetty 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2 I know, but why is the question. Why let this scammer get away with it so he can’t continue to rip ppl off. We need to be aware of these dealers to make sure we stay away from them.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      People are scared to name and shame

  • @mshirar
    @mshirar 2 місяці тому

    Definitely a shady tactic and I would have sent it back. Had it been graded I could see where the buyer should have known by the score but since it's just slabbed, that's a return. Although I'm saying that assuming it was an online sale and not in person. If it is was in person I could see where the buyer should have looked and the card especially since it was actually graded.

  • @216cle
    @216cle 2 місяці тому

    I think it comes down to the asking price on it. I don't know the true value of this card raw but if 7500 was a discount then it's on the buyer. If 7500 is fair for a nice raw example then the seller is a piece of garbage

  • @mnplumberman
    @mnplumberman 2 місяці тому

    No one would authenticate only a Purdy RPA /99 unless there was something majorly wrong with it.
    The buyer not questioning this and him not checking out the card is his fault.
    The seller may not have Technically done anything wrong, but to not disclose it is shady AF and I would 100% not trust them again.
    He was hiding it with the sticker hoping someone wouldn't look to closely. If they did notice it, he would just act like he was going to disclose it the whole time.

  • @ghoostxcal158
    @ghoostxcal158 2 місяці тому

    Although it is shady on the sellers behalf..
    1. This is the buyers fault for not doing his due diligence on an expensive ass card.
    2. The big red flag that something was off was the fact that it wasn't graded, only authenticated.
    3. This is what this hobby has become, full of scalpers & scammers. That's why I stopped buying. Now time to sit back and watch the idiots fuck over the idiots lol...🍿👀🍿👀

  • @Murphyyyyyyyy
    @Murphyyyyyyyy 2 місяці тому

    Dirty. Super dirty.

  • @erichjenson7278
    @erichjenson7278 2 місяці тому +1

    My gosh, I feel like I do more research on $2 cards. Scumbag seller for sure, but please flip the card over when you’re paying $7500. People bring up the PSA database, but anyone can see the pictures show either damage or trimming. The card is way out of whack. Do… Your… Research!!!

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Yep, they can’t blame anyone else but themselves

    • @erichjenson7278
      @erichjenson7278 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2Actually, if you watch the kids video he just posted I don’t think the story is as it seems. The dealer made an agreed upon adjustment and both walked away alright it seems.

  • @carybensilhe4869
    @carybensilhe4869 2 місяці тому

    Seller was dishonest but you also need to be smart and inspect better.

  • @HIGH535
    @HIGH535 2 місяці тому

    thats grimey by the seller but buyer should have examined an "authentic" card closer. 9 times out of 10 theres a reason why its not graded and if its ultra modern like this card its probably closer to 10/10 times

  • @gptriplesticks
    @gptriplesticks 2 місяці тому

    I would say that both are at fault but the seller should take most of the blame. 90/10 spilt would be my opinion. As a buyer you should always check out a cards condition before purchasing but knowing a card is damaged and not disclosing that is showing bad faith. Would never do any business with this person again.

  • @throwback888
    @throwback888 2 місяці тому

    PSA didn't grade it, but shouldn't they have put some note on the label saying it was damaged? Yeah, the auto is authentic, but I kind of feel PSA is a bit to blame too because the card was obviously damaged when it was sent in and slabbed.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      That’s typically what authentic means though. I.e. people go that route because the card has a flaw. They do need to bring back qualifiers though. I.e. authentic alterered, authentic miscut etc

  • @emmsdad
    @emmsdad 2 місяці тому

    a lot of unethical sellers out there.

  • @hustlecrowe9440
    @hustlecrowe9440 2 місяці тому

    If a card is AUTHENTIC instead of graded thats a huge red flag. I also question if this really happened because he doesn't name the dealer...

  • @miguelavila8961
    @miguelavila8961 2 місяці тому

    Always shady ass people in the hobby!! It’s very discouraging when purchasing cards from people you don’t normally deal with! Although, I have met a lot of really cool people in the hobby.

  • @j_toledo419
    @j_toledo419 2 місяці тому

    I agree, it's some dirty shht.

  • @stargazer4625
    @stargazer4625 2 місяці тому

    But the buyer saw the Authentic where the grade should have been on the Sticker... that was an immediate Red Flag. He shouldve ask what was the issue.. instead in his own words he said he was going to crack it out the slab and try to sell it for a few thousand more than what he paid. Knowing it had an issue. Do i feel sorry for the buyer... NOPE

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Yep! I agree. I think we can all poke fun at the buyer but still be in a position to call the seller a scumbag

  • @nicholasmantia9052
    @nicholasmantia9052 2 місяці тому +1

    Id also like to know why the seller's name is not being posted so others dont get burned by him??

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому +1

      Buyer did not disclose it but I am on the hunt!

  • @starscreamjesse2121
    @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

    Buyers fault. Greedy and lazy.

  • @55giantsfan22
    @55giantsfan22 2 місяці тому

    Its on with the seller if i noticed that while still at the show 🥊

  • @nicholasmantia9052
    @nicholasmantia9052 2 місяці тому

    I saw this story on UA-cam yesterday.......
    The seller was wrong for deceiving the buyer & the buyer is at fault for not knowing that this trick has been going around for a few years now.......
    When in doubt, ask the seller to take the card out of the protective bag or to remove the sticker......

  • @Darbobski
    @Darbobski 2 місяці тому

    I would report him to Ebay, but probably keep the card and resubmit for a new case. The extra fees and shipping sucks, but if the card was a good deal it's still probably a good deal.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      It was bought F2F at a card shiw

    • @Darbobski
      @Darbobski 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2 Ahh, then I do put a bit more on the buyer here. It is still shady, but if he did this on Ebay there'd be a moderator that might step in and help make it right.
      Getting a new case is still on the table. It may even be worth breaking and sending in again anyway?
      Just a thought.

  • @vendora1
    @vendora1 2 місяці тому

    well said dan

  • @chuckmcbuckets6011
    @chuckmcbuckets6011 2 місяці тому

    Truthfully its the buyers fault. Its not a graded rpa as in the title. Its just authenticated so by knowing that obviously there is something wrong with it so the buyer should have looked at carefully if he thought he was gonna crack it to be graded.

  • @jaredralls9221
    @jaredralls9221 2 місяці тому

    If you are in the market to spend $7500 on a card, you better know what you are doing. Seller shady, yeah, but it’s no different than buying a used car

  • @King.Paul.
    @King.Paul. 2 місяці тому +1

    Don’t all PSA cards have a grading number on them ?

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому +1

      A certification number yes but you can also just have a card authenticated which means no grade is given. I.e. what happened here

    • @King.Paul.
      @King.Paul. 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2 oh alright thanks

  • @Mike-fn8yh
    @Mike-fn8yh 2 місяці тому

    This is a scummy seller and a buyer that learned his lesson There is no mistake on the seller

  • @mannyball2198
    @mannyball2198 2 місяці тому

    Buyer beware

  • @zachpierce641
    @zachpierce641 2 місяці тому

    I believe I heard the dealer at the table wasn’t the owner it was someone else’s card. I didn’t know they didn’t give a full refund that’s ridiculous
    Buyers HAVE to slow down stop trusting people so much cause you’re at a card show and you think everyone’s your friend . $7500 and you’re not even looking at one of the corners ?
    Not to mention the authentic slab. I see an authentic slab and the first thing I think is what is wrong with this card?. Don’t think I’m buying it until I determine why it got authentic or I’m willing to accept it’s probably trimmed ( more common on a different card) but seriously not even check out the corner?

  • @Shelton_47
    @Shelton_47 2 місяці тому

    Weather the dealer knew didn’t know whatever it is where he went wrong is not giving a full refund. Not a dealer I’d want to work with. If it was a legit dealer even if he didn’t have the money he would have made the buyer whole by trade value in full or a refund in full even if that’s at a later date.

  • @robertsaunders9008
    @robertsaunders9008 2 місяці тому

    I picked up a lebron optic card that is graded from Beckett 9/10 auto strange error

  • @redzwestisbest
    @redzwestisbest 2 місяці тому

    ty

  • @Darthkeldean
    @Darthkeldean 2 місяці тому

    Maybe I’m a broke boy and I can’t drop that kind of money on a single card lol. Why didn’t he ask why authentic not a grade and also buyer didn’t flip card over before shelling out 7,500 damage should be viable on back. Yes that’s shady covering damage but I would have loved a pick of table with other cards maybe he always puts sticker in bottom and assumed everyone would look over card and if they did damage corner will show in front of card. I’m little salty because eBay I sold a card I bought a month prior from dc87 largest consigner on eBay. Guy bought card left me neutral because I didn’t fine tooth card and point out ding in corner. I don’t grade since cards most of my collection is raw. Buyer claimed I was deceiving them. In truth I was just turning a few cards for quick profit uploaded pictures front and back if your goal is to grade look over pictures.

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Fair question mate. Based on what he said this sticker was placed there but others weren’t

    • @Darthkeldean
      @Darthkeldean 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2 when I was a kid back in the day I set up at card shows and I used the little rectangle stickers from Avery what you bought at any big box stationary dept. bottom left all the time because I felt back then a uniform sticker placement made a better customer experience. If I would be selling today would drive me crazy since different cards have serial numbers and it’s either bottom left or right.

  • @bennybreaks702
    @bennybreaks702 2 місяці тому

    Sorry, but if it's in a slab, you can look up the cert number. It's authentic and that's what they're buying. Youre buying the card, not the potential flip. You can clearly see the damage in the scans.
    If you're not doing your homework on a 7500 dollar card, that's completely on the buyer.
    If it's upgraded, different story. Ask for additional photos and honest information. Anything looks sketchy, don't buy it.

  • @angelvalle9963
    @angelvalle9963 2 місяці тому

    7500 pesos? 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @alexanderstevens145
    @alexanderstevens145 2 місяці тому

    That card looks like it got ran over and left in the rain

  • @LonelyBasementBaseballCards
    @LonelyBasementBaseballCards 2 місяці тому

    Do people avoid Geoff because of all the dodgy stuff he’s done?😂

  • @7ThumbsUp7
    @7ThumbsUp7 2 місяці тому

    Whats the difference between this and someone selling a box of fake sports packs

    • @DanTheCardMan2
      @DanTheCardMan2  2 місяці тому

      Same same

    • @starscreamjesse2121
      @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

      @@DanTheCardMan2 Almost, but not the same. This buyer had every opportunity to do some easy checks on the card and didn't. at $7K if you don't do some checks you're just a greedy buyer also looking to do shady stuff.

  • @vintagesportsshack
    @vintagesportsshack 2 місяці тому +1

    The biggest problem is guy is probably somewhat a newbie, and hes bought into cards are investments... SPORTS CARDS ARE NOT INVESTMENTS!!! that being said, contact the promoters and have that dealer banned!!!

    • @starscreamjesse2121
      @starscreamjesse2121 2 місяці тому

      don't give sympathy to buyers that throw around big money on cards without checking them out. This guy's greed got him caught up.

  • @LeoMcGregor1
    @LeoMcGregor1 2 місяці тому

    We want to know who the seller was. Need to get exposed. Deliberately scammed buyer. Imagine what else this seller has done or will do without getting exposed.

  • @The_SARC_Knight
    @The_SARC_Knight 2 місяці тому

    It's scummy, but I don't think it's the end of the world. Id still rather put this on the buyer honestly. There HAS to be a reason it's only authenticated and not graded. If I'm spending 7.5k, I'm not just gonna overlook that.

  • @gregorysmith3405
    @gregorysmith3405 2 місяці тому

    There’s no excuse for this on the buyers side either. Especially having the card in hand. Come on buyer.
    The seller is a complete scumbag too.