Reaper and Viper are my favorite melee. Since they were designed with level 90 and 100 respectively, everything feel way more refined and flow way more naturally. Meanwhile, even after rework, Monk still feel like a patchwork of mechanics (having to open with a double lunar to align buffs feel so wrong to me). The main problem as you pointed it out is that everything content under 90/100 feel bad since huge chunks of our kit is ripped off our hands. It's especially annoying with the Viper since 95% of the game content is before Dawntrail. I really wish Square Enix could take a look a this and find a solution. For example scaling down our potencies for lower level content but allowing us to keep all of our kit. I want to press all my shiny buttons!!
I’m leveling up my Reaper right now. It’s currently at lvl 93-94 and it’s still great. It was my main last expansion but Viper has stolen my melee heart in DT with its speed and smooth flow.
It the easiest melee to learn it's has okay amount of button, generally slow GCD, not many oGCD, 2 positional that only happen occasionally, good self mitigation, breaking 1-2-3 combo doesn't ruin your days and a dash that doesn't require a target and it can go back and forth too! Hell what's not to like about this class? Well maybe some people don't like Death's Design.
I picked reaper for shadowbringers and I must say that even at level 70 I had lots of fun with the job,sure it gets even better with the portal upgrade and gluttony but leveling up it feels like its just the icing on the cake,I haven't unlocked enshroud yet but it's already really fun to play
Im leveling reaper currently, and as a healer main, i appreciate the slower style it has over other dps classes. It made it much less intimidating to get into and why it was my first class ive branched out to outside if being a white mage.
RPR and DRG are my mains for the since I started maining melee. I started playing XIV on EW and once i hit 70 i immediately unlocked RPR and never looked back. It's just so satisfying to play, not too complicated to be frustrating but also not without it's level of skill expression like timing enshrouds or saving perfectio's for disengages and odd minute double enshrouds under pots. One of the biggest things that is making me somewhat avoid playing DRG this tier is the lack of a satisfying or impactful disengage tool (unlike communio, perfectio, harvest moon, enhanced harpe). Eveb SAM has ehnaced enpi at least.
Been maining reaper for savage in DT and its one i just connect with the most. The pain point is less death design upkeep and more the gluttony drift or being gauge negative and punished for dropping GCD's. I'm by no means the best reaper, in fact quite average on parses but have enough hours to feel these affects. I've also done m2s on viper to feel the difference and man, my thoughts are "why even play samurai, ninja or monk?" if not for the aesthetics. It undermines those in my personal opinion. I played it terribly but still did way more damage than i should have. Lower skill ceiling, higher value. again just my opinion.
My main gripe with Dawntrail reaper and got extremely disappointed by is that the executioner skills were not permanent upgrades but only tied to gluttony. In addition to Perfectio not being a plain combo to Communio you can use every time but only tied to having to use plentiful harvest. I get what they were going for to feel impactful during 1-2 minute burst window but I just prefer straight forward permanent upgrades and combos to not be time/cooldown gated
Nothing beats Reapers Teleport skill. To have an option in an Extreme to get out of an AOE, instant cast a bolt, and then port right back to where I was to continue my rotation... it feels so great. So I am staying with Reaper for main, but will play with my 100 Viper on the side for funs.
Reaper was always my favorite melee DPS, then along came Viper... Viper is just so fun, it's like being in Reaper's enshroud, but all the time. MASH ALL THE BUTTONS!
Reaper is still king even with Viper. Unmatched aesthetics, amazing visuals, still the best animations imo, class fantasy is amazing how many shonen series have demon within MC that makes MC OP well you can live that fantasy with this class. SE knock it out of the park with this job.
Reaper's fine, but samurai was my favorite and still is. Always liked samurai, literally since I was a kid and when I started to play FF14 and learned that there is such a job in the game, it became my primary focus to get it. Got it, loved from first moment and has remained my most favorite so far. I have reaper too and play it now and then but my personal gripe is the scythe. What can I say, I just love swords. It's also the same with warrior - I love the class, though it's a bit sad that they're linked only to an axe. Axe is nice but crude for my tastes. Dark knight has the sword but I prefer warrior as a job (again, been playing warriors/fighters in every RPG's and MMO's).
May I ask for myself and those who have pretty low motivation to learn meta jobs (high DPS), especially when they’re also easy to play? As I’ve seen from the Savage parses comparison, Reaper is currently around the middle implying not meta. How easy is it to play compared with other melee jobs this patch?
Reaper is very easy to pick up! Few positional requirements and a surprising amount of mobility. The biggest hurdle most people struggle with is maintaining Death's Design, although imo that ends up feeling like second nature pretty quickly. Most of the difficulty with RPR comes with optimization, figuring out how to use your skills to end up spending the majority of your time in a burst phase rather than having to build to it.
Thanks for your reply ❤ So it’s still one of the easy melee jobs? I’ll wait for the rework which may come in the future expansions, and then consider picking up the job change quest later.
I think reaper is a fine job and well designed, I just wish it did more rdps to make up for the fact it's not really an adps monster like vpr or sam, or an rdps monster like mnk or to a lesser extent dragoon. It feels like it has no identity in the sense where it doesnt do insane rdps or adps it's just kinda in the middle. but it plays so well and optimization is very rewarding, I just wish there were more tangible dps rewards for optimization (there's a lot of it this tier) it deals with downtime super poorly to the point I wish you could get a harvest moon from PH somewhat like viper. but I do think the jankiness of it is kind of its own identity
It's more than in the middle. To me, it always fit that space that MNK used to. High ADPS, but not the highest. Good support, not the greatest - sort of a "Semi-Greedy DPS." Personally I like that. Definitely wish there were more ways to access Harvest Moon - though not a ton. Timing enshroud and communios/smuggling Perfectios for downtime does feel pretty incredible when you do it. :) Getting it from PH is a nice idea I think.
@@LS-cp2to I agree that timing enshroud for downtime is really rewarding, and getting it from PH might be too much and take away from that but idk, it's a rough balance I think. All jank aside its super fun
There is probably only 1 problem I have with Reaper and only 1 and even then this is still my favorite melee. Enshroud having a cooldown. Viper released and reawakening having no cooldown makes me wish Reapers cooldown on enshroud didn't exist so u could quickly go into your 2nd enshroud during the 2 minutes reopener.
I've heard Reaper's rotation is more boring than Samurai's. And I'm already quite bored playing SAM. I'm capped at lvl 80 Machinist, but I'm hoping to try out Viper eventually.
@@1Mrstephen why change it to be exactly like another job? deaths design is a great mechanic and has sooo much more utility than you would think. especially if you're trying to get communio to line up with downtime, if you are a gcd or two off you have deaths design as a buffer. its awesome. it gives you a lot of flexibility to do a little bit more weird stuff.
@@RavenAstralis I actually think viper was intended to play similarly to reaper. The positive changes to viper I feel should carry over to reaper. Simple as that.
Viper and Samurai are so fun, my two favorite melee jobs
Reaper and Viper are my favorite melee. Since they were designed with level 90 and 100 respectively, everything feel way more refined and flow way more naturally. Meanwhile, even after rework, Monk still feel like a patchwork of mechanics (having to open with a double lunar to align buffs feel so wrong to me). The main problem as you pointed it out is that everything content under 90/100 feel bad since huge chunks of our kit is ripped off our hands. It's especially annoying with the Viper since 95% of the game content is before Dawntrail.
I really wish Square Enix could take a look a this and find a solution. For example scaling down our potencies for lower level content but allowing us to keep all of our kit. I want to press all my shiny buttons!!
it is my fever dream to demolish all low level content with high level ability.
Im playing Samurai and Reaper. Im having a blast.
I’m leveling up my Reaper right now. It’s currently at lvl 93-94 and it’s still great. It was my main last expansion but Viper has stolen my melee heart in DT with its speed and smooth flow.
Yes, exactly. If reaper was faster it would be still my dps main. But viper has such a satisfying fast flow.
Viper is sick, came back for it and loving it
It the easiest melee to learn it's has okay amount of button, generally slow GCD, not many oGCD, 2 positional that only happen occasionally, good self mitigation, breaking 1-2-3 combo doesn't ruin your days and a dash that doesn't require a target and it can go back and forth too! Hell what's not to like about this class? Well maybe some people don't like Death's Design.
I picked reaper for shadowbringers and I must say that even at level 70 I had lots of fun with the job,sure it gets even better with the portal upgrade and gluttony but leveling up it feels like its just the icing on the cake,I haven't unlocked enshroud yet but it's already really fun to play
I've been a Reaper one trick since release and I can definitely say that this job has my heart. No other class feels as smooth as it does to me.
Im leveling reaper currently, and as a healer main, i appreciate the slower style it has over other dps classes. It made it much less intimidating to get into and why it was my first class ive branched out to outside if being a white mage.
As a scythe main and being 100% unbiased, rpr is the best class.
This man gets it
RPR and DRG are my mains for the since I started maining melee. I started playing XIV on EW and once i hit 70 i immediately unlocked RPR and never looked back. It's just so satisfying to play, not too complicated to be frustrating but also not without it's level of skill expression like timing enshrouds or saving perfectio's for disengages and odd minute double enshrouds under pots. One of the biggest things that is making me somewhat avoid playing DRG this tier is the lack of a satisfying or impactful disengage tool (unlike communio, perfectio, harvest moon, enhanced harpe). Eveb SAM has ehnaced enpi at least.
Been maining reaper for savage in DT and its one i just connect with the most.
The pain point is less death design upkeep and more the gluttony drift or being gauge negative and punished for dropping GCD's.
I'm by no means the best reaper, in fact quite average on parses but have enough hours to feel these affects.
I've also done m2s on viper to feel the difference and man, my thoughts are "why even play samurai, ninja or monk?" if not for the aesthetics. It undermines those in my personal opinion.
I played it terribly but still did way more damage than i should have.
Lower skill ceiling, higher value. again just my opinion.
My main gripe with Dawntrail reaper and got extremely disappointed by is that the executioner skills were not permanent upgrades but only tied to gluttony. In addition to Perfectio not being a plain combo to Communio you can use every time but only tied to having to use plentiful harvest. I get what they were going for to feel impactful during 1-2 minute burst window but I just prefer straight forward permanent upgrades and combos to not be time/cooldown gated
Reaper is the best job
Nothing beats Reapers Teleport skill. To have an option in an Extreme to get out of an AOE, instant cast a bolt, and then port right back to where I was to continue my rotation... it feels so great. So I am staying with Reaper for main, but will play with my 100 Viper on the side for funs.
Yeah the teleport is amazing
Carried me through M3N many times
Reaper was always my favorite melee DPS, then along came Viper... Viper is just so fun, it's like being in Reaper's enshroud, but all the time. MASH ALL THE BUTTONS!
reaper and nin are my boys. i love them.
Yes! I just wish reaper had a unique jump like ninja does.
Reaper is still king even with Viper. Unmatched aesthetics, amazing visuals, still the best animations imo, class fantasy is amazing how many shonen series have demon within MC that makes MC OP well you can live that fantasy with this class. SE knock it out of the park with this job.
Reaper's fine, but samurai was my favorite and still is. Always liked samurai, literally since I was a kid and when I started to play FF14 and learned that there is such a job in the game, it became my primary focus to get it. Got it, loved from first moment and has remained my most favorite so far. I have reaper too and play it now and then but my personal gripe is the scythe. What can I say, I just love swords. It's also the same with warrior - I love the class, though it's a bit sad that they're linked only to an axe. Axe is nice but crude for my tastes. Dark knight has the sword but I prefer warrior as a job (again, been playing warriors/fighters in every RPG's and MMO's).
Rpr my main job
Prettiest colors on effects so bestest job
May I ask for myself and those who have pretty low motivation to learn meta jobs (high DPS), especially when they’re also easy to play? As I’ve seen from the Savage parses comparison, Reaper is currently around the middle implying not meta. How easy is it to play compared with other melee jobs this patch?
Reaper is very easy to pick up! Few positional requirements and a surprising amount of mobility. The biggest hurdle most people struggle with is maintaining Death's Design, although imo that ends up feeling like second nature pretty quickly. Most of the difficulty with RPR comes with optimization, figuring out how to use your skills to end up spending the majority of your time in a burst phase rather than having to build to it.
Thanks for your reply ❤ So it’s still one of the easy melee jobs? I’ll wait for the rework which may come in the future expansions, and then consider picking up the job change quest later.
I think reaper is a fine job and well designed, I just wish it did more rdps to make up for the fact it's not really an adps monster like vpr or sam, or an rdps monster like mnk or to a lesser extent dragoon. It feels like it has no identity in the sense where it doesnt do insane rdps or adps it's just kinda in the middle. but it plays so well and optimization is very rewarding, I just wish there were more tangible dps rewards for optimization (there's a lot of it this tier) it deals with downtime super poorly to the point I wish you could get a harvest moon from PH somewhat like viper. but I do think the jankiness of it is kind of its own identity
It's more than in the middle. To me, it always fit that space that MNK used to. High ADPS, but not the highest. Good support, not the greatest - sort of a "Semi-Greedy DPS." Personally I like that.
Definitely wish there were more ways to access Harvest Moon - though not a ton. Timing enshroud and communios/smuggling Perfectios for downtime does feel pretty incredible when you do it. :) Getting it from PH is a nice idea I think.
@@LS-cp2to I agree that timing enshroud for downtime is really rewarding, and getting it from PH might be too much and take away from that but idk, it's a rough balance I think. All jank aside its super fun
Need more dmg to keep up with picto but my fav job :D
I like reaper i main war and so i feel as if im playi g war as dps when im playing reaper
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If you think Reaper is boring at low levels wait until you level viper. Lol
It's hilarious how extremely slow and boring the "high-speed high apm" job is at first
I can't really play Reaper now without thinking that it's just a more janky Viper.
There is probably only 1 problem I have with Reaper and only 1 and even then this is still my favorite melee. Enshroud having a cooldown. Viper released and reawakening having no cooldown makes me wish Reapers cooldown on enshroud didn't exist so u could quickly go into your 2nd enshroud during the 2 minutes reopener.
this is like the only complex thing about reaper and is actually fun i would rather it not play like an inferior viper
Reaper is terrible in terms of dps in savage, it does have cool animations if youre into that.
Cant do viper because of the awful running animation with weapons drawn.
nah sam is :)
Deaths Design is trash. Literally not needed. Maybe I should have leveled reaper before viper…. 🤷🏻
I've heard Reaper's rotation is more boring than Samurai's. And I'm already quite bored playing SAM. I'm capped at lvl 80 Machinist, but I'm hoping to try out Viper eventually.
Get rid of deaths design and add an ability that is useful and it’s good to go.
Removing Death Design would kill the double enshroud window in burst. This is not a good idea.
@@RavenAstralis no it wouldn’t lol. They’d have to make small adjustments but it could be set up nearly identical to Vipers.
@@1Mrstephen why change it to be exactly like another job? deaths design is a great mechanic and has sooo much more utility than you would think. especially if you're trying to get communio to line up with downtime, if you are a gcd or two off you have deaths design as a buffer. its awesome. it gives you a lot of flexibility to do a little bit more weird stuff.
@@1Mrstephen So you want the job to be like Viper ?
@@RavenAstralis I actually think viper was intended to play similarly to reaper. The positive changes to viper I feel should carry over to reaper. Simple as that.
first one