The Main Point: The skills in flight sims, in a lot of ways, are game-agnostic. The basics still apply and balancing aggression is one of them. Push yourself out of your comfort zones and see what happens when you go aggressive. You don't know what you can get away with until you try/find out. I die all the time being too aggressive but I personally find the most fun when I go super agro and get away with it. The greatest pilots I know are the ones that can balance aggression and use the aggression of others against them - this is something I am still working on. Let me know what you think in the comments. I will have a video in the next week or two showing how being overly aggressive can get yourself burned to make sure I drive the point home that all out aggression is not a good idea - it's a balance.
I think the biggest difference outside of the spotting is that there is just less room for mistakes in the DCS fligth model. Chalk that up to possible more "realism" perhaps, or just quirks. The engine management on specifically the Allied fighters keeps people from using their throttles as actively as well. Things you can get away with in IL2 don't translate well often to many of the DCS equivelents. Honestly the 109 is probably the most forgiving in that aspect of ALL the warbirds in DCS.
I did this on purpose for two reasons. 1) I know most of my viewers are from IL-2, so I thought it would be good to show some extra particulars from the DCS Warbirds Damage Model. This is why I ejected on the ground to give a close up of the external. 2) I am not sure if that was really that just bad of a landing or if one of my gears was damaged/tire popped.
To be aggressive just for the sake of being aggressive is just a gamble. Its a toss of a coin. Sure you can surprise an enemy. And overwhelm someone with the necessary skills. but as soon as you meet someone who realises the bluff and knows how to handle the aircraft you are dead. I think you can get out of it more than you die, but you wont be consistently successful with the approach. A good balance needs to be found.
I find myself in moments where time stops and I ask myself, am I going to be smart and play more defensively/patient or am I going to go all in to experiment. I try to make sure it's for the sake of experimentation and not out of greed (or overconfidence). When I think back about when I first started to fly to now, I do remember key moments that I felt that I unlocked because I was willing to push myself out of my comfort zone to see if I could overcome the situation by being a bit more aggressive and not just to run away. Dying due to my own greed or overconfidence is probably my #1 reason for dying so I am still working on balancing it so ultimately, I agree with you that finding the balance is the key. Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts.
Another well thought out video. Just starting out in DCS , I find that the Spitfire is much twitchier than IL2, particularly the elevator trim. This makes it more difficult to make either aggressive moves or defensive manoeuvres, but you seem to be getting a handle on it. 👍
@@Enigma89Great flying! Just thought you should know that you can test each aircraft for two weeks free of charge in DCS with no restrictions - I think non-Steam version only but its easily findable!
Glad you are enjoying the videos. Thanks for not watching one but two videos. I release at least one video a week so keep on coming back. Feel free to check out the discord.
Good video 👍🏻 reason I am not that aggressive is for engine management and keeping speed up. The p 51's usually come in packs when the server is full. When you target fixate and turn too much they kill you easily.
Great video as always however I just wanted to point something out real quick. I noticed that you didn't have the MW50 switch on. In the 109, the MW 50 is engaged when you go full throttle (past a certain detent). You may have noticed that the aircraft was shaking involuntarily when you went full throttle, If the MW50 switch isn't armed when you go full throttle you'll break the engine in minutes of continues use. The boost basically works like an afterburner detent. Don't be afraid to manually open the radiators as well when using boost.
I "dry boost" the 109k4 quite a bit. You can get away with it for a tiny but before the engine explodes. Max aggression 😬 would not advise it but trying to get s feel for the engine tolerance. I have blown up many engines in my testing 😅
This is the first of a couple DCS WWII Videos coming out. I thought of me trying to feel out the game here would be interesting to some here because I wanted to make this point in a video for a while now so this sort of came together nicely in my mind. Please let me know what you think.
IL-2 players are just flat out better. Guys come over from shooting misses and going Mach 1.7 and really don't have the experience for knife fights at tree top level. A good Il-2 players can get out of 3v1 situations and go home to tell about it.
@@Enigma89 is there a particular reason you chose the 109? I'm trying to trial all the warbirds before the next sale. I'm on the Anton right now and it's a well armed pig, like the Su-25T :P
It depends what you want out of the game and what you want to do. If you are looking for a complete multiplayer experience that includes a dynamic campaign then you have to go IL-2. If you really want a full fidelity experience then you have to go to DCS but the multiplayer situation isn't as viable as IL-2. If you want to fly modern jets also then DCS is the clear choice. If you really only want WWII then IL-2 is probably the best bet. Also depends on how much money you want to spend, IL-2 is far cheaper.
Very nice flying. My take from this is you have more experience from IL-2 than these guys. That last Spit probably didn't use rudder or didn't trim for the speeds he was flying at - thus spun into the dirt like that. AAA is scheduled to be toned down from what I saw NineLine posting somewhere. They do acknowledge it is too accurate. Probably re-used code from the modern guns.
Enigma i am loving your video of DCS and IL2 ! i wishing to ask, do you think i should be finding worth purchase all Il2 "battles" or simply is there one what is best for purchase? Thank you for very great youtube videos my friend ! :)
Thank you for leaving a comment, I am glad you are enjoying the videos. "Worth it" is hard to say, it depends on what you want to do. If you are going to be flying a lot and only in multiplayer for dogfighting, then yes you will want them. If you only fly one side and only do one thing (like ground attack) then you may not need them all. Sheriff made a very good buyers guide. Here ua-cam.com/video/LB2StWjR0o0/v-deo.html Feel free to let me know what you are thinking of wanting to do in IL2 and I can recommend a purchase list.
I would like to add some commentary over this if permissible. You make some very good moves here, but I see places where you're giving up great opportunities to consolidate advantages and get into a killing position quicker. Especially in the first fight. You're a pretty good pilot, but there is a couple of things I want to share with you and your viewers that could push you through the threshold to being great.
It is a bit tricky. You *really* have to just stare at the target the whole time which means you have to really get a "feel" for your aircraft to know what speed you are at without looking
@@Enigma89 yeah, it's frustrating. Glad IL2 has rattled the cages with their Normandy product, which is exactly what a lot of people have been urging DCS to do for some time! Normandy-map-2 is such a DCS problem to have....
nice video. im curious about ur graphics settings and monitor resolution, scince spotting can be vastly different for each monitor size and res. also Billy on the sow discord made a cockpit mod to get rid of the reflections, should be pinned in technical help
Here are my DCS settings, my monitor is at 2k, 144hz... The video is in 60 FPS. Thank you for letting me know about the cockpit mod - I will check that out. Here are the settings: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821200185141100545/895488368962580500/unknown.png
Fantastic video and some great flying! I wonder if you have any good tips on forcing overshoots - whenever I try these I usually end up getting shot up :P Any plans on revisiting some DCS WW2 stuff down the road? -UltiCOW
I would really spend the time to learn how scissors work. That is basically the easiest way to do it. I really don't bother with WWII DCS anymore. The server and player quality just pales in comparison to IL-2.
The Main Point: The skills in flight sims, in a lot of ways, are game-agnostic. The basics still apply and balancing aggression is one of them. Push yourself out of your comfort zones and see what happens when you go aggressive. You don't know what you can get away with until you try/find out. I die all the time being too aggressive but I personally find the most fun when I go super agro and get away with it. The greatest pilots I know are the ones that can balance aggression and use the aggression of others against them - this is something I am still working on. Let me know what you think in the comments.
I will have a video in the next week or two showing how being overly aggressive can get yourself burned to make sure I drive the point home that all out aggression is not a good idea - it's a balance.
As long as you don‘t go apeshit aggressive like scharfi, lol
I think the biggest difference outside of the spotting is that there is just less room for mistakes in the DCS fligth model. Chalk that up to possible more "realism" perhaps, or just quirks. The engine management on specifically the Allied fighters keeps people from using their throttles as actively as well. Things you can get away with in IL2 don't translate well often to many of the DCS equivelents. Honestly the 109 is probably the most forgiving in that aspect of ALL the warbirds in DCS.
What is the world are these guys doing lol. IL2 is a different breed
Okay having the lesson being told in front of a not so successful landing was really funny! Good video keep it up
I did this on purpose for two reasons. 1) I know most of my viewers are from IL-2, so I thought it would be good to show some extra particulars from the DCS Warbirds Damage Model. This is why I ejected on the ground to give a close up of the external. 2) I am not sure if that was really that just bad of a landing or if one of my gears was damaged/tire popped.
@@Enigma89 thanks! I really appreciate the reply to a comment of a one and a half year old video!
To be aggressive just for the sake of being aggressive is just a gamble. Its a toss of a coin. Sure you can surprise an enemy. And overwhelm someone with the necessary skills. but as soon as you meet someone who realises the bluff and knows how to handle the aircraft you are dead.
I think you can get out of it more than you die, but you wont be consistently successful with the approach. A good balance needs to be found.
I find myself in moments where time stops and I ask myself, am I going to be smart and play more defensively/patient or am I going to go all in to experiment. I try to make sure it's for the sake of experimentation and not out of greed (or overconfidence).
When I think back about when I first started to fly to now, I do remember key moments that I felt that I unlocked because I was willing to push myself out of my comfort zone to see if I could overcome the situation by being a bit more aggressive and not just to run away.
Dying due to my own greed or overconfidence is probably my #1 reason for dying so I am still working on balancing it so ultimately, I agree with you that finding the balance is the key. Thanks for commenting and sharing your thoughts.
@@Enigma89 Some of us just prefer to damn the torps.....
They seem to be inexperience pilots in p51s who don't really understand how to maneuver.
Another well thought out video. Just starting out in DCS , I find that the Spitfire is much twitchier than IL2, particularly the elevator trim. This makes it more difficult to make either aggressive moves or defensive manoeuvres, but you seem to be getting a handle on it. 👍
I haven't flown the Spitfire yet, I wish but the cost of the planes were cheaper because I would love to dive into them all but that $$$.
@@Enigma89Great flying! Just thought you should know that you can test each aircraft for two weeks free of charge in DCS with no restrictions - I think non-Steam version only but its easily findable!
Love your videos bud and I really enjoyed your MIG 21 ones. Keep up with the content. You are the best! ❤️❤️
Glad you are enjoying the videos. Thanks for not watching one but two videos. I release at least one video a week so keep on coming back. Feel free to check out the discord.
Good video 👍🏻 reason I am not that aggressive is for engine management and keeping speed up. The p 51's usually come in packs when the server is full. When you target fixate and turn too much they kill you easily.
Yeah. The population swings so wildly and suddenly that sometimes its feast or famine. Thx for making a thoughtful reply.
His engine wasn't running hot... .a k4 out performs dsc's p51 in every way
Great video as always however I just wanted to point something out real quick. I noticed that you didn't have the MW50 switch on. In the 109, the MW 50 is engaged when you go full throttle (past a certain detent). You may have noticed that the aircraft was shaking involuntarily when you went full throttle, If the MW50 switch isn't armed when you go full throttle you'll break the engine in minutes of continues use. The boost basically works like an afterburner detent. Don't be afraid to manually open the radiators as well when using boost.
I "dry boost" the 109k4 quite a bit. You can get away with it for a tiny but before the engine explodes. Max aggression 😬 would not advise it but trying to get s feel for the engine tolerance. I have blown up many engines in my testing 😅
This is the first of a couple DCS WWII Videos coming out. I thought of me trying to feel out the game here would be interesting to some here because I wanted to make this point in a video for a while now so this sort of came together nicely in my mind. Please let me know what you think.
Awesome, can't wait to see more comps between DCS warbirds and il2. Especially when you get comfortable with the FM and different damage models
@@JoshHarris88 thx for the support and your interest!
Awesome ! Thanks for sharing with us!
Thanks for watching another one of my videos and commenting it really helps.
IL-2 players are just flat out better. Guys come over from shooting misses and going Mach 1.7 and really don't have the experience for knife fights at tree top level. A good Il-2 players can get out of 3v1 situations and go home to tell about it.
Awesome video! Is the 109 till your go to axis, and do you have a favorite allied warbird?
I don't really fly Allied in DCS but when I do in IL-2 I typically like to fly the P-38, P-40 and Hurricane.
@@Enigma89 is there a particular reason you chose the 109? I'm trying to trial all the warbirds before the next sale. I'm on the Anton right now and it's a well armed pig, like the Su-25T :P
Great flying & shooting!
I’m looking at DCS & IL2, and while I may eventually buy both, which do you recommend starting on?
It depends what you want out of the game and what you want to do. If you are looking for a complete multiplayer experience that includes a dynamic campaign then you have to go IL-2. If you really want a full fidelity experience then you have to go to DCS but the multiplayer situation isn't as viable as IL-2.
If you want to fly modern jets also then DCS is the clear choice. If you really only want WWII then IL-2 is probably the best bet.
Also depends on how much money you want to spend, IL-2 is far cheaper.
Il2 is also more user friendly.
Ha! Ha! Don't the Luftwaffe frown heavily on non-3-point landings?
They do, my plane was borked :(
Very nice flying. My take from this is you have more experience from IL-2 than these guys. That last Spit probably didn't use rudder or didn't trim for the speeds he was flying at - thus spun into the dirt like that.
AAA is scheduled to be toned down from what I saw NineLine posting somewhere. They do acknowledge it is too accurate. Probably re-used code from the modern guns.
Good to hear about the AAA!
Enigma i am loving your video of DCS and IL2 ! i wishing to ask, do you think i should be finding worth purchase all Il2 "battles" or simply is there one what is best for purchase? Thank you for very great youtube videos my friend ! :)
Thank you for leaving a comment, I am glad you are enjoying the videos. "Worth it" is hard to say, it depends on what you want to do. If you are going to be flying a lot and only in multiplayer for dogfighting, then yes you will want them. If you only fly one side and only do one thing (like ground attack) then you may not need them all.
Sheriff made a very good buyers guide. Here ua-cam.com/video/LB2StWjR0o0/v-deo.html
Feel free to let me know what you are thinking of wanting to do in IL2 and I can recommend a purchase list.
I would like to add some commentary over this if permissible.
You make some very good moves here, but I see places where you're giving up great opportunities to consolidate advantages and get into a killing position quicker. Especially in the first fight.
You're a pretty good pilot, but there is a couple of things I want to share with you and your viewers that could push you through the threshold to being great.
Send me a discord PM. We are always looking for more commentators to broaden the opinions for the viewers to get different POVs
Look so hard to spot on dcs great video anyway
It is a bit tricky. You *really* have to just stare at the target the whole time which means you have to really get a "feel" for your aircraft to know what speed you are at without looking
@@Enigma89 yeah give you a different gameplay on that aspect
The K4 in DCS can out turn, out climb and out gun the P51. It's not fun to fly against.
The very real issue with DCS WWII is that there are a limited number of airplanes so it's kind of damned if you do or damned if you don't.
@@Enigma89 yeah, it's frustrating. Glad IL2 has rattled the cages with their Normandy product, which is exactly what a lot of people have been urging DCS to do for some time! Normandy-map-2 is such a DCS problem to have....
Flying on the deck in DCS feels like il2 except youre flying at 9k, can't see, have 4x the rudder authority, and yaw oscillations do not dampen
nice video.
im curious about ur graphics settings and monitor resolution, scince spotting can be vastly different for each monitor size and res.
also Billy on the sow discord made a cockpit mod to get rid of the reflections, should be pinned in technical help
Here are my DCS settings, my monitor is at 2k, 144hz... The video is in 60 FPS. Thank you for letting me know about the cockpit mod - I will check that out. Here are the settings: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821200185141100545/895488368962580500/unknown.png
Fantastic video and some great flying!
I wonder if you have any good tips on forcing overshoots - whenever I try these I usually end up getting shot up :P
Any plans on revisiting some DCS WW2 stuff down the road?
-UltiCOW
I would really spend the time to learn how scissors work. That is basically the easiest way to do it.
I really don't bother with WWII DCS anymore. The server and player quality just pales in comparison to IL-2.
@@Enigma89 So Multiplayer Il-2 is still a thing?
I guess I should get mine running again.
Keeps crashing, at start.
How do you control your view and zoom like that? Thanks!
In general settings you should look for the zoom in slow and zoom out slow keymaps. I map them to my throttle.
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