The real question here is, would you trust a review from someone who closes a frameless car door by pushing on the top corner of the window..... Amateur hour.
I've owned this car for about 2 years. It has an official range of 114 miles but I have actually driven it 134 miles and still had 18% battery remaining. On the other extreme, on an extremely cold day -14°F (-25°C) I only got 85 miles. So the range really depends on speed and temperature. I have a 90 mile commute to/back from work and this car is just about perfect. I charge with a level 2 charger at home. This is not a car you take on a trip, it would suck for that purpose, but for a daily driver I can't think of many other cars that would be better. I have never felt range anxiety with this car, because I use it for its intended purpose.
I’ve had a Tesla for 2 years and one of these , a green and gold one, for almost 6 months as well. They are extremely comparable as you say, but we never take the mini on road trips, that’s what the Model 3 is for. The missing bit is in your comments is displayed in your faces - you can’t drive the mini without glee all over your face. The Tesla is a great driving car but is not in the same class for FUN. Here in NZ we have a charging network, so range anxiety is not a thing, the network was designed for 60-100km Leafs, so easily matches the mini range, plus, the charge speed on 50kW chargers is fantastic, absolutely blasting past the Tesla which always slows well below its spec, but you never tried a 50kW charger. I live on a very curvy multi-bay seaside road, with some very sharp corners at 70km/hr, so have plenty of opportunity to enjoy it within the city.
We live in Texas and have no issue with range anxiety. We are about to take a 600 mile trip in it. We may be crazy for that, but plan your route and stops. Not everyone needs or can afford a Tesla.
Same. Doesn’t sound like they tested it. And comparing this to the TM3 is just silly. As Texas residents we likely got this for around $20-24k after incentives. The Tesla is 2-2.5x the price, and not as fun.
I live in sunny Melbourne Australia and I have a Mini SE. No problems at all using this as my daily driver. I use the ChargeFox network (free electricity) and a home charger. How frequently do you drive more than 150km in a day?
My partner has the SE for about a year now. It is a real fun drive for sure!Range anxiety I agree with and was more skeptical of it at the start, but there are chargers out there to use you just need to find and more being added, in saying that it will depend on where you are going. ChargeFox or Evie stations are worth looking at via their apps. We recently went on a 180km (each way) trip and yes had to stop charge along way but was easy to find a station on this occasion. Was cheap to charge and smaller battery also means it charges up to 100% faster, many don’t think about that. Plus good time to get out and stretch legs. We certainly are going to consider more longer trips with the EV even if we have to stop more especially given the fuel prices and my main car being a V6.
I just picked one up here in the USA, quite a different story price-wise, after the government incentive, I paid $22500, which is half the price of a Tesla, and since this is the 2nd car for me and looking at the current gas prices, a no brainer. But agreed, not as your primary car. I use it as a commuter car and it's perfect for that.
Jacob has to be in every review now, review is like two mates chatting. Went for a test drive in new Golf R and put down deposit, can't wait for your review on it.
It’s the perfect city car for someone that would happily pay for horribly expensive fashionable clothing. Neither are particularly good value but you will look good in them.
Not entirely true. Where I live this car costs about the same as a Toyota with the government’s incentives. Plus you don’t need to pay gas for this car and gas prices are crazy high nowadays. The range is something that might bother me even tho I drive 100km/day max.
@@CarSauce I live in Norway this is one of the cheapest electric cars you can buy, I paid 51k AUD, including a set of winter tires and a wall box, a Tesla 3 is a lot more expensive. My wife had a 30km daily commute, the Mini is perfect for that.
Fit, finish and drive is superior to a model 3, guess you miss the point of driving it! Have you driven much miata type car, because I think this falls 8n to that category.
My sister bought one, lives in Sydney. Has a home charger, but her driving is now full of range anxiety and the fear that when she finds a charger it’s either not compatible or not working. To me it just seems like a silly toy to go to shops and back with.
As much as there cool little cars, I really don't understand why any ev is sold in Australia with such a small range, bar being a pure city driver(which why even have a car at that point) unless it's got a super fast charge which these clearly don't that range anxiety is just atrocious
If it accepts the same 50kW as the North American model, then it's pretty quick. 50 kW DC fast charging isn't fast by today standards, but rapid enough considering the small pack of the SE. While DC fast charging is 20-30 minutes, it's still a robust second car, or daily driver... nothing more.
" I really don't understand why any ev is sold in Australia with such a small range" Surely to make it light enough that it still drives like a Mini Cooper S? The kerb weight is 1365kg which is excellent (only 100kg more than the ICE Mini Cooper S automatic). There is no way it would handle as well if it weighed 1565kg, which is more akin to the weight of most small hatchback EVs, and it certainly wouldn't handle in line with the expectations set by the ICE Cooper S.
Well EVERY EV pretty much is mated to the owners driving needs. ANd this , in most instances should be the 2nd or 3rd car. And have a gas car for long distances. I drive 50 miles round trip to work and can 11 charge at work- never a range problem for me. But thats MY needs. If you have to drive this as your only car- dont- get something else. And I love the BMW "kit" This is a very complete car as far as features- not having Android Auto though is a draw back. I believe if this got 175 mile range- it would be in the top 3 EV's on the market- cuz of the absolute joy to drive. Ive driven a Tesla- fast off the line (so is this) and gains pace quickly- but its heavy and ultimately is just another car. The Mini is a Mini- its like a car that you name like a pet. LOL Its powerful and adorable at the same time.
I only bought a Mini because there are no Tesla sold in my country except refurbished ones from Japan imported by local dealer. Plus it was on sale and cheap due to zero tax on EV cars. Basically I can get almost 2 SE for a price of one Mini Cooper S 2.0 in my country lol
I know it’s a year on and the would be many more chargers now as there definitely is many chargers in that area. I feel you should add a note to show you were only using a single phase cable as if you had a three phase cable you would have made it to 90% in that hour.
Maybe now Australia is taking its head out of its arse and giving some thought to sustainability there will be a few chargers. In the UK, where we’ve got plenty (and in fairness much smaller distances between places) this works great as an EV replacement for a fun car like an MX5, Fiesta ST etc.
Your video just popped up and it seemed nice until you started lying about the charging. If the battery is 33kwh and you were charging at 11kw for 1hr......you wouldn't get 10% more,you should've gained 33% Unfortunately this review seems anti EV or anti mini EV at best. Disappointing
No 11kw is PEAK charging, not sustained. You generally only get peak at low battery % because peak causes heat = battery degradation. I generally love EVs, and you can see my recent IX3 review for that
I have been looking into EV’s recently and I live in the US. The price disparity between the US and Australia is crazy. It’s $37k fully loaded here and you get a $7,500 credit from the government
Really need to go full blast with the histrionics to get attention from your viewers? You’re a far cry from Micah Muzio who can still come up interesting despite his antics. In your case you simply ooze utter silliness and redundancy (!). 😐 🎵🎶“Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover”🎶🎵 😂
Mini is my favourite car, have just bought a 2022 Cooper S. We also own a Tesla Model 3. For the price there was no way I would consider the SE. Even as a city car with a home charger installed I wouldn’t trust it doing a day or errands!
What do you guys think of the new Into animation :D
Love it!!
The real question here is, would you trust a review from someone who closes a frameless car door by pushing on the top corner of the window..... Amateur hour.
I've owned this car for about 2 years. It has an official range of 114 miles but I have actually driven it 134 miles and still had 18% battery remaining. On the other extreme, on an extremely cold day -14°F (-25°C) I only got 85 miles. So the range really depends on speed and temperature.
I have a 90 mile commute to/back from work and this car is just about perfect. I charge with a level 2 charger at home. This is not a car you take on a trip, it would suck for that purpose, but for a daily driver I can't think of many other cars that would be better. I have never felt range anxiety with this car, because I use it for its intended purpose.
I’ve had a Tesla for 2 years and one of these , a green and gold one, for almost 6 months as well. They are extremely comparable as you say, but we never take the mini on road trips, that’s what the Model 3 is for.
The missing bit is in your comments is displayed in your faces - you can’t drive the mini without glee all over your face. The Tesla is a great driving car but is not in the same class for FUN.
Here in NZ we have a charging network, so range anxiety is not a thing, the network was designed for 60-100km Leafs, so easily matches the mini range, plus, the charge speed on 50kW chargers is fantastic, absolutely blasting past the Tesla which always slows well below its spec, but you never tried a 50kW charger.
I live on a very curvy multi-bay seaside road, with some very sharp corners at 70km/hr, so have plenty of opportunity to enjoy it within the city.
We live in Texas and have no issue with range anxiety. We are about to take a 600 mile trip in it. We may be crazy for that, but plan your route and stops. Not everyone needs or can afford a Tesla.
Same. Doesn’t sound like they tested it. And comparing this to the TM3 is just silly. As Texas residents we likely got this for around $20-24k after incentives. The Tesla is 2-2.5x the price, and not as fun.
I live in sunny Melbourne Australia and I have a Mini SE. No problems at all using this as my daily driver. I use the ChargeFox network (free electricity) and a home charger.
How frequently do you drive more than 150km in a day?
My partner has the SE for about a year now. It is a real fun drive for sure!Range anxiety I agree with and was more skeptical of it at the start, but there are chargers out there to use you just need to find and more being added, in saying that it will depend on where you are going. ChargeFox or Evie stations are worth looking at via their apps. We recently went on a 180km (each way) trip and yes had to stop charge along way but was easy to find a station on this occasion. Was cheap to charge and smaller battery also means it charges up to 100% faster, many don’t think about that. Plus good time to get out and stretch legs.
We certainly are going to consider more longer trips with the EV even if we have to stop more especially given the fuel prices and my main car being a V6.
I just picked one up here in the USA, quite a different story price-wise, after the government incentive, I paid $22500, which is half the price of a Tesla, and since this is the 2nd car for me and looking at the current gas prices, a no brainer. But agreed, not as your primary car. I use it as a commuter car and it's perfect for that.
Jacob has to be in every review now, review is like two mates chatting. Went for a test drive in new Golf R and put down deposit, can't wait for your review on it.
It’s the perfect city car for someone that would happily pay for horribly expensive fashionable clothing. Neither are particularly good value but you will look good in them.
Haha well put!
Not entirely true. Where I live this car costs about the same as a Toyota with the government’s incentives. Plus you don’t need to pay gas for this car and gas prices are crazy high nowadays. The range is something that might bother me even tho I drive 100km/day max.
@@CarSauce I live in Norway this is one of the cheapest electric cars you can buy, I paid 51k AUD, including a set of winter tires and a wall box, a Tesla 3 is a lot more expensive. My wife had a 30km daily commute, the Mini is perfect for that.
Perfect Car for people with home charging and 40 miles to work.
Looks much better than most other evs aswell
If you mate is going feature more can you mike him up at least?
Will be coming soon(ish)
Mic or not that's a face I want to see 😅
Fit, finish and drive is superior to a model 3, guess you miss the point of driving it! Have you driven much miata type car, because I think this falls 8n to that category.
My sister bought one, lives in Sydney. Has a home charger, but her driving is now full of range anxiety and the fear that when she finds a charger it’s either not compatible or not working. To me it just seems like a silly toy to go to shops and back with.
There ya go!
I laugh when you repeatedly punched the useless mini charger. Good car terrible power train. Fudge that electric mini
As much as there cool little cars, I really don't understand why any ev is sold in Australia with such a small range, bar being a pure city driver(which why even have a car at that point) unless it's got a super fast charge which these clearly don't that range anxiety is just atrocious
Yeah I think it may come down to availability of cars too… there’s a market for this car - but it’s small!
If it accepts the same 50kW as the North American model, then it's pretty quick. 50 kW DC fast charging isn't fast by today standards, but rapid enough considering the small pack of the SE. While DC fast charging is 20-30 minutes, it's still a robust second car, or daily driver... nothing more.
" I really don't understand why any ev is sold in Australia with such a small range" Surely to make it light enough that it still drives like a Mini Cooper S? The kerb weight is 1365kg which is excellent (only 100kg more than the ICE Mini Cooper S automatic). There is no way it would handle as well if it weighed 1565kg, which is more akin to the weight of most small hatchback EVs, and it certainly wouldn't handle in line with the expectations set by the ICE Cooper S.
I’m sorry, no electrical outlets at your house? You seem like you would own a mansion!😊
These guys are very frustrating to listen to
Okaaaaaay but that jump shot at 18:52...FIRE!
looks great really up market so good to see your channel doing so well Matt
Thank you!
Well EVERY EV pretty much is mated to the owners driving needs. ANd this , in most instances should be the 2nd or 3rd car. And have a gas car for long distances. I drive 50 miles round trip to work and can 11 charge at work- never a range problem for me. But thats MY needs. If you have to drive this as your only car- dont- get something else. And I love the BMW "kit" This is a very complete car as far as features- not having Android Auto though is a draw back. I believe if this got 175 mile range- it would be in the top 3 EV's on the market- cuz of the absolute joy to drive. Ive driven a Tesla- fast off the line (so is this) and gains pace quickly- but its heavy and ultimately is just another car. The Mini is a Mini- its like a car that you name like a pet. LOL Its powerful and adorable at the same time.
How far are the shops from where you live? 100 km? Of course you’d have range anxiety.. duh.
I only bought a Mini because there are no Tesla sold in my country except refurbished ones from Japan imported by local dealer. Plus it was on sale and cheap due to zero tax on EV cars.
Basically I can get almost 2 SE for a price of one Mini Cooper S 2.0 in my country lol
I know it’s a year on and the would be many more chargers now as there definitely is many chargers in that area. I feel you should add a note to show you were only using a single phase cable as if you had a three phase cable you would have made it to 90% in that hour.
Cant believe the pricing for you guys over there, I got mine for the equivalent of $45,000. Plus our charging network is much better here which helps
Maybe now Australia is taking its head out of its arse and giving some thought to sustainability there will be a few chargers. In the UK, where we’ve got plenty (and in fairness much smaller distances between places) this works great as an EV replacement for a fun car like an MX5, Fiesta ST etc.
It is not only the infrastructure that lags a little behind, but also the development😁
BMW Mini an overpriced fashion purse on wheels. I guess BMW never understood what the Original Mini was about.
Hi guys can you please review the hybrid countryman ? Thanks
Omg what 70k? I would rather save money installing heaps of solar panels on my roof, buy a petrol car and be done with it.
not very expensive, cost the same than a mini cooper base 32k Cad
Your video just popped up and it seemed nice until you started lying about the charging.
If the battery is 33kwh and you were charging at 11kw for 1hr......you wouldn't get 10% more,you should've gained 33%
Unfortunately this review seems anti EV or anti mini EV at best.
Disappointing
No 11kw is PEAK charging, not sustained. You generally only get peak at low battery % because peak causes heat = battery degradation. I generally love EVs, and you can see my recent IX3 review for that
Very enjoyable quirky review,thanks chaps
Oh no, the range is a deal breaker, lucky it's pretty 😉😉😉
The only Mini I would buy is Mr Bean's mini! That's it!
@22:04 Are all Australian basketball nets this weird looking?
Thats a netball net
@@idontneedameme3665 Interesting. Looks difficult.
Haha didn’t even spot that 🤣
They’re upside down
Matt what’s the best overall ev you have driven so far? Ioniq 5
nice, but the range is to llittle - need minimum 300KM
I have been looking into EV’s recently and I live in the US. The price disparity between the US and Australia is crazy. It’s $37k fully loaded here and you get a $7,500 credit from the government
You are correct my friend, I just ordered one in California and besides the $7500, I also qualify for an additional $2750 from the state.
@@rogermartinez78 that is such a deal! I think that is lower than the base MSRP for a gas version.
This car is the answer to a question that no one has asked.
Who really buy these ? It’s beyond me
I can add a spare battery to my Ebike get almost as much range as that thing ... and the ebike's trailer can handle a large suitcase as well.
When it rains you get wet on your e bike.
@@MasterChief37 Nope, because I do not ride in the rain
The problem with official EV range Calculations
they Refuse to acknowledge the Existence of
1 - Motorways
2 - Heaters
3- Aircon
4- Cold Weather
Plus, charging to 80% to limit degradation plus...battery degradation.
Not really an S ! Tho is it
Meaning - buy a tesla
about the price of Tesla M3... for 491km fully charge... not worth the $$$
This isn't true because Tesla M3 doesn't qualify for the $7500 fed tax credit and local rebates. I saved ~$10,000 buying the Mini SE.
@@herooo.2928 We have rebate in VIC,AUS :D
you mean tesla with its rubber-vinyl seats, yeah if you want range yes, all other is for mini - style & fun
@@martinhorvath181 yeap I normally drive from Melbourne to Sydney to visit families 900kms trip. Mini is not for the job
Really need to go full blast with the histrionics to get attention from your viewers? You’re a far cry from Micah Muzio who can still come up interesting despite his antics. In your case you simply ooze utter silliness and redundancy (!). 😐
🎵🎶“Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover”🎶🎵 😂
What car do you drive sir
End of May: Mini SE 2023. No public charging issues here in Canada, especially in Quebec. I drive EVs since 2013. Can’t believe the price in AUD 😮
The boy is in the spectrum clearly.
I laughed out loud at the price. Good joke.
So, basically Australia sucks. Infrastructure-wise.
Mini is my favourite car, have just bought a 2022 Cooper S. We also own a Tesla Model 3. For the price there was no way I would consider the SE. Even as a city car with a home charger installed I wouldn’t trust it doing a day or errands!
Yes; the range has to be at lease 3x current range for me to consider buying one.