Would like to add a wireless roaming cam for IMAG at a number of different events - Production company who does work with churches, as well as other local and regional events. Since it's Black Friday and was on sale for under 500$ I decided to go ahead and grab it and try it out with our GH5s and gimbal rig. I typically record in 24fps, 1080p but because of the set up we have with our ATEM TV Studio switcher we typically have to scale things to 1080i @ 60fps. Just means we'll look into getting more scalers in order to run everything at 24fps. Always enjoy watching your videos and take on equipment in the AV world.
I record/stream at 24fps as it gives me the most cinematic look and motion blur (I'm not looking for slow Mo), it also gives me a little extra recording space when doing 4K recording in Camera. So this wireless video system would be perfect for my use as the latency will be even lower. I was initially planning on saving up for the Teradek spark 4k, but its probably cheaper, and worth getting 2 of these instead.
We use hard-lines for our livestream cameras, but I’ve been experimenting with the idea of a wireless rig using a Teradek or Cinegears. This could be a decent alternative since we stream in 24. Thanks for the review!
Livestream cameras. We are actually running all 3 of our camera over the Hollyland Mars system. Given that all of them are on the same delay I just delay the audio going to the livestream. That being said, my current audio delay to sync with video is 408ms. Which was about 150ms prior to the Hollyland system. So Hollyland added 258ms of delay. That’s our current setup.
@@RylandRussell yes it does. We had put a single camera on the Hollyland system through a donation so our handheld camera could be wireless. The delay was so bad we couldn’t really do close ups without it looking bad. So we just went all in and got two more to make the whole system match delay.
Could you receive multiple signals (from multiple transmitters) into one receiver and switch between them? This would be very useful feature for one-man-band multicam production, for example in live-events to check status and framing between different cameras instead of running around the venue.
Ryland, do you ever do any consulting? Our church really needs some help to get to the next level. I have lots of questions that I would love to get your advice on. Big fan and thank you for what you’re doing. It is very helpful to us.
Ryland, I saw at the end you showed the Teradek Spark 4k. If you or any one in the comments use that transmitter, do you have a solution to plug it into an external battery? I've been looking around and trying some stuff, but there seems to be some issue with the amount of power it needs.
We tried this unit at our church and it kept on cutting off. Not sure if you guys experienced loss of signal? Our 5g Wifi is off. Distance was no more than 50-60 ft
We tried both of the Teradek systems that you have and the Accsoon CineEye 2 Pro. Like you said, Teradek is zero latency. We also run at 30-ish FPS, but we found that if we capture and transmit on the Accsoon at 60 FPS, the latency seems to be half as long as the same thing at 30. We run everything into an ATEM Mini Pro... so it automatically scales it to 30-ish FPS at the switcher. Do you still have the CineView Quad? I wonder what you would find if you put the camera on 60 FPS... if the latency would be less. Also, I wonder what the impact of various wireless video systems has on the overall wireless situation of a venue. Do some of them start to impact wireless microphones or in-ear systems?
I have found the exact same thing to be true with the Hollyland C1 and 400s pro units. Our atem is set to 30fps, but is the new constellation HD switcher so it has scalers. The latency on the Hollyland drops significantly when changing the cameras to 60fps and allowing the switcher to scale them back to 60fps. A little less motion blur on those cameras, but the latency is much more usable. I've got the accsoon in the mail too, looking forward to testing that one
I just ordered this unit! Ill let you know how it goes. But i have a question i cant find the video that someone did of your set up. But you had a Rack mixer for your ipad that would go to your hallway speakers can you do a small video or ppost about that set up. Thank you.
I'm actually trying to find an automated solution for this :) Behringer has a unit like this as well that is just a rackmounted xlr mixer. Hallway speaker systems in general are a good topic though.
Hmmmm I know the Hollyland units would round the frame rate but I hadn’t heard of the Accsoon units having this issue. Keep me posted if you figure it out.
Ive had differant setups in the past but now im looking at Ninja V with AtomX for multicam recording for final delivery. So im not searching for 4K but FHD solution atm, but the transmitter i need it needs to be lossless and zero latency transmission. I dont care about hdr nor 422, 8 bit 420 is fine, but i dont wanna see any difference between the wired and the wireless feed. What is your recommended product for wireless solutions? I shoot 2-3 times per week at least 6 hours nonstop events. There is only enough time to change batteries and thats all. Desperately need your suggestions.
My company is needing up to 4 units to be used siultaneosly to broadcast live stream for soporate confrerences. I have heard that the hollyland units don't work well when using multiple units. WHich system do you suggest for running multiple units for 1080p live streaming or multi-cam podcasts to a switcher?
Would like to add a wireless roaming cam for IMAG at a number of different events - Production company who does work with churches, as well as other local and regional events. Since it's Black Friday and was on sale for under 500$ I decided to go ahead and grab it and try it out with our GH5s and gimbal rig. I typically record in 24fps, 1080p but because of the set up we have with our ATEM TV Studio switcher we typically have to scale things to 1080i @ 60fps. Just means we'll look into getting more scalers in order to run everything at 24fps. Always enjoy watching your videos and take on equipment in the AV world.
I like how technology is getting cheaper and cheaper/ more accessible 😊 Awesome video
I record/stream at 24fps as it gives me the most cinematic look and motion blur (I'm not looking for slow Mo), it also gives me a little extra recording space when doing 4K recording in Camera.
So this wireless video system would be perfect for my use as the latency will be even lower.
I was initially planning on saving up for the Teradek spark 4k, but its probably cheaper, and worth getting 2 of these instead.
We use hard-lines for our livestream cameras, but I’ve been experimenting with the idea of a wireless rig using a Teradek or Cinegears. This could be a decent alternative since we stream in 24. Thanks for the review!
Livestream cameras. We are actually running all 3 of our camera over the Hollyland Mars system. Given that all of them are on the same delay I just delay the audio going to the livestream. That being said, my current audio delay to sync with video is 408ms. Which was about 150ms prior to the Hollyland system. So Hollyland added 258ms of delay. That’s our current setup.
Wowza! That's a lot of latency. Kinda forces you out of hard wiring anything.
@@RylandRussell yes it does. We had put a single camera on the Hollyland system through a donation so our handheld camera could be wireless. The delay was so bad we couldn’t really do close ups without it looking bad. So we just went all in and got two more to make the whole system match delay.
Could you receive multiple signals (from multiple transmitters) into one receiver and switch between them? This would be very useful feature for one-man-band multicam production, for example in live-events to check status and framing between different cameras instead of running around the venue.
I'm looking to transmit. 4K DCI 10bit 4:2:2 from my Panasonic S1H recording to my NINJA V at 400mbps. I want to output the signal from my Ninja V.
Super information ...well done and thank you
Cool product. Thanks for the info!
You are welcome! Thanks for the kind words.
Live stream cameras are where we need zero latency, but for a lobby monitor or difficult to run cable location, this could be great. Thanks.
Lobby live stream, baptism up close cam, and we want to stream our video to a cry room for them to see and hear the sermon live with minimal latency.
Nice!
Ryland, do you ever do any consulting? Our church really needs some help to get to the next level. I have lots of questions that I would love to get your advice on. Big fan and thank you for what you’re doing. It is very helpful to us.
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@@RylandRussell thank you!
Ryland, I saw at the end you showed the Teradek Spark 4k. If you or any one in the comments use that transmitter, do you have a solution to plug it into an external battery? I've been looking around and trying some stuff, but there seems to be some issue with the amount of power it needs.
We haven’t tried it with an external battery. That’s one of the reasons I still prefer the ace 500 😀
We tried this unit at our church and it kept on cutting off. Not sure if you guys experienced loss of signal? Our 5g Wifi is off. Distance was no more than 50-60 ft
Hmm we've been using it every week without any issues. Did you try adjusting the channels on the units?
We tried both of the Teradek systems that you have and the Accsoon CineEye 2 Pro. Like you said, Teradek is zero latency.
We also run at 30-ish FPS, but we found that if we capture and transmit on the Accsoon at 60 FPS, the latency seems to be half as long as the same thing at 30. We run everything into an ATEM Mini Pro... so it automatically scales it to 30-ish FPS at the switcher.
Do you still have the CineView Quad? I wonder what you would find if you put the camera on 60 FPS... if the latency would be less.
Also, I wonder what the impact of various wireless video systems has on the overall wireless situation of a venue. Do some of them start to impact wireless microphones or in-ear systems?
Ya we have a 5ghz disabled in worship center. Interesting findings with the 60fps. We have old atems without converters though.
I have found the exact same thing to be true with the Hollyland C1 and 400s pro units. Our atem is set to 30fps, but is the new constellation HD switcher so it has scalers. The latency on the Hollyland drops significantly when changing the cameras to 60fps and allowing the switcher to scale them back to 60fps.
A little less motion blur on those cameras, but the latency is much more usable. I've got the accsoon in the mail too, looking forward to testing that one
What lav are you using with DJI Mic? And does it get any interference when the DJI receiver is used?
Ya it’s a purple panda, not happy with it. That’s one of the issues. I’ve hear the rode lavs are better I think.
I just ordered this unit! Ill let you know how it goes. But i have a question i cant find the video that someone did of your set up. But you had a Rack mixer for your ipad that would go to your hallway speakers can you do a small video or ppost about that set up. Thank you.
I'm actually trying to find an automated solution for this :) Behringer has a unit like this as well that is just a rackmounted xlr mixer. Hallway speaker systems in general are a good topic though.
The Best unit ive bought! Thank you so much for this! we LOVE IT!
How do you multi camera streaming with this? And beat latency
We only use it for our wide shot on cable cam, so latency isn’t as big of deal.
Nice thank you.
Hey I bought the newer version since it’s discontinued the one your reviewing .
When I put 29.97 it skips to 60fps is there anyway of fixing this ?
Hmmmm I know the Hollyland units would round the frame rate but I hadn’t heard of the Accsoon units having this issue. Keep me posted if you figure it out.
Ive had differant setups in the past but now im looking at Ninja V with AtomX for multicam recording for final delivery. So im not searching for 4K but FHD solution atm, but the transmitter i need it needs to be lossless and zero latency transmission. I dont care about hdr nor 422, 8 bit 420 is fine, but i dont wanna see any difference between the wired and the wireless feed. What is your recommended product for wireless solutions?
I shoot 2-3 times per week at least 6 hours nonstop events. There is only enough time to change batteries and thats all. Desperately need your suggestions.
Highly recommend the teradek ace 500 or spark 4K. Zero latency. amzn.to/3GffnzU
My company is needing up to 4 units to be used siultaneosly to broadcast live stream for soporate confrerences. I have heard that the hollyland units don't work well when using multiple units. WHich system do you suggest for running multiple units for 1080p live streaming or multi-cam podcasts to a switcher?
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@@RylandRussell awesome, thanks! I’m assuming it’s what you used during church with multicam switching?
@@RylandRussell is the accoon system not as good because of the delay or would it have issues with multiple cams?
Do these units support SDI/HDMI cross-conversion?
Also, just found their SE system that advertises even less latency for $100 more!
Ya I don’t always trust the latency claims. Yes it will cross convert.
@@RylandRussell Big thanks for the swift response! Keep up the great work. 😁