What the flux is going on here?Seriously tho thank you very much for taking the time to post, you saved my junkyard receiver. Pro tip, watch some yt videos on soldering, I did and I'm much better at it now, although you'd still laugh at me. In any event, major props for saving my junkyard find.
Will this same method work for denon dra800 H AV reciever? Seems to me that its a common problems with display going on Denon recievers? Not good really especially as the equipment is quite expensive!
Solder temperature was low at the beginning! The solder must reflow unto the tip for optimum result. Use solder paste if available for faster reflow. Always clean the tip of your soldering iron of solder gunk for best results. A long five seconds solder reflow is safer than multiple 2-3 seconds applications. And don't use electrical solder lead which has high melting temperature but use a rosin filled 60-tin/40-lead solder or better low-temp electronics kind. Also apply heat and solder at the terminal at the same time. Let the solder melt and flow at the terminal before removing the heat.
Hi i've watched through tear stained eyes! the minimum you end for soldering is... a good quality iron ( which you have) a ball of brass wool, pcb flux pen And solder wick to draw off the old solder You are attempting to solder with everything dirty.. you need to heat the iron then wipe it clean in the brass wool then the tip will be shiny. then start afresh WITH FLUX hope this helps.
I have never seen the need for a lot of de soldering tools. Every time I have soldered if you spin the iron after you get the solder hot it usually takes the solder with the iron. Have I been crazy lucky or???
Just a quick tipp form an electrician, no hate just some advice for next time, soldering isn't about dripping the tin on top like you are doing, you really don't need really much. You should rather try and heat the contact with the iron and hold the fresh tin strip on the contact, then let it flow through the hole by itself. (The whole procedure should be done rather quick to avoid heating up the components to far.) That way you get perfect electric contact, because 100% of the remaining and the new tin get melted and merge, which leads to a smooth structure without any interfering spots within. That way you will achieve the same looks as the factory solder spots! The way you are doing it, it is called a "cold solder spot" which is not optimal because the electric contact is limited, which leads to malfunctions because the spot gets heated up by the current and the fuse triggers. The solder spot is more vulnerable to mechanical stress to. Practice with a wire and some old electrical rubbisch or something, you will see the tin easily flows into the contact by itself, generating a perfect contact and the whole thing is done in a few seconds. By the Way, soldering tin has got some "flow-boosting" substance in it, which gets boiled away when soldering, so the longer you fight with a soldering spot, the more difficult it will get and you will need to add more new tin to "keep it creamy". Anyway thanks for the video, helped me a lot to fix the display of my X1100W!
Thanks for the tip! A friend told me that part of my problem was the type of solder I was using. The stuff I was using in the video was lead-free solder, and it was very difficult to get it hot enough to liquefy it. He recommended that I switch to lead-based solder (and use a protective mask) because it has a lower melting point and makes it easier for a novice to work with. He also had some of the same comments as yours, particularly about practicing on old junk before I move on to things I don't want to ruin. :) I'm glad the video was helpful!
hey man, I just found your vídeo, it's been about a year now, how's the Receiver? mine is doing the same thing, the 200mA fuses (yes, plural) i've tried lasted only a couple of days, tops... I'm really thinking on doing the direct link
Hi Guilherme, I did some home renovating and ended up replacing my AVR-S700W. It was still working fine until I replaced it about 2 months ago. Bypassing the fuse did not have any negative affects for me.
Hi Brian. Sorry to hear that it only lasted for a day. Same thing happened to me on my first attempt, due to my bad soldering. Fix from my second attempt is still going strong after more than 4 months. I did read somewhere that Denon replaces both the fuse and a capacitor. I didn't need to mess with anything other than the fuse, but there must be a reason why Denon is also replacing that capacitor. Perhaps it is necessary is some cases. I was just lucky and didn't need it. I hope you're able to get your unit fixed!
Never use lead-free solder it is crap and for a novice, it will just make things that much harder. Also never use a solder designed for pipework it has acids that can ruin a circuit board. yeh so if you had used the correct solder you would have had much better luck, live and learn I guess.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂if you dont know how to use a soldiering device leave it to profecionals, because trying to work with those ridiculous gloves, just getting in the way . I do this every freaking day for 35 years and never burn my finger like that.
Sir u are brilliant. the intro was more than enough to make me keep watching. your humor is impeccable, i applaud u.
Thanks for posting. You gave me the confidence to try my novice hand at soldering. Fixed the display, hope it stays that way. Thank you!
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What the flux is going on here?Seriously tho thank you very much for taking the time to post, you saved my junkyard receiver. Pro tip, watch some yt videos on soldering, I did and I'm much better at it now, although you'd still laugh at me.
In any event, major props for saving my junkyard find.
Will this same method work for denon dra800 H AV reciever? Seems to me that its a common problems with display going on Denon recievers? Not good really especially as the equipment is quite expensive!
Solder temperature was low at the beginning! The solder must reflow unto the tip for optimum result. Use solder paste if available for faster reflow. Always clean the tip of your soldering iron of solder gunk for best results. A long five seconds solder reflow is safer than multiple 2-3 seconds applications. And don't use electrical solder lead which has high melting temperature but use a rosin filled 60-tin/40-lead solder or better low-temp electronics kind. Also apply heat and solder at the terminal at the same time. Let the solder melt and flow at the terminal before removing the heat.
Hi i've watched through tear stained eyes! the minimum you end for soldering is... a good quality iron ( which you have) a ball of brass wool, pcb flux pen And solder wick to draw off the old solder You are attempting to solder with everything dirty.. you need to heat the iron then wipe it clean in the brass wool then the tip will be shiny. then start afresh WITH FLUX hope this helps.
I love that giant pipe solder - this is hilarious, but thanks for the information!!!
do you have a link for the fuse?
Hey, quick question. How did you do a factory reset on the receiver or remote to make the remote work again?
I have never seen the need for a lot of de soldering tools. Every time I have soldered if you spin the iron after you get the solder hot it usually takes the solder with the iron. Have I been crazy lucky or???
Try cleaning the solder iron tip. I use sandpaper or a fine metal file.
Just a quick tipp form an electrician, no hate just some advice for next time, soldering isn't about dripping the tin on top like you are doing, you really don't need really much.
You should rather try and heat the contact with the iron and hold the fresh tin strip on the contact, then let it flow through the hole by itself. (The whole procedure should be done rather quick to avoid heating up the components to far.) That way you get perfect electric contact, because 100% of the remaining and the new tin get melted and merge, which leads to a smooth structure without any interfering spots within. That way you will achieve the same looks as the factory solder spots!
The way you are doing it, it is called a "cold solder spot" which is not optimal because the electric contact is limited, which leads to malfunctions because the spot gets heated up by the current and the fuse triggers. The solder spot is more vulnerable to mechanical stress to.
Practice with a wire and some old electrical rubbisch or something, you will see the tin easily flows into the contact by itself, generating a perfect contact and the whole thing is done in a few seconds.
By the Way, soldering tin has got some "flow-boosting" substance in it, which gets boiled away when soldering, so the longer you fight with a soldering spot, the more difficult it will get and you will need to add more new tin to "keep it creamy".
Anyway thanks for the video, helped me a lot to fix the display of my X1100W!
Thanks for the tip!
A friend told me that part of my problem was the type of solder I was using. The stuff I was using in the video was lead-free solder, and it was very difficult to get it hot enough to liquefy it. He recommended that I switch to lead-based solder (and use a protective mask) because it has a lower melting point and makes it easier for a novice to work with. He also had some of the same comments as yours, particularly about practicing on old junk before I move on to things I don't want to ruin. :)
I'm glad the video was helpful!
Your big mistake was a 30w iron rather than a 60w. Same price! And use flux core solder. But your video was a big big help to find where the fuse was.
hey man, I just found your vídeo, it's been about a year now, how's the Receiver?
mine is doing the same thing, the 200mA fuses (yes, plural) i've tried lasted only a couple of days, tops...
I'm really thinking on doing the direct link
Hi Guilherme,
I did some home renovating and ended up replacing my AVR-S700W. It was still working fine until I replaced it about 2 months ago. Bypassing the fuse did not have any negative affects for me.
Hello guilherme, you did a direct link? I was thinking to do this.
Your soldering iron probably not getting hot enough for non-lead based solder
Did this exactly. Worked for one day. Display out again. I hear Denon service replaces a capacitor as well.
Hi Brian. Sorry to hear that it only lasted for a day. Same thing happened to me on my first attempt, due to my bad soldering. Fix from my second attempt is still going strong after more than 4 months. I did read somewhere that Denon replaces both the fuse and a capacitor. I didn't need to mess with anything other than the fuse, but there must be a reason why Denon is also replacing that capacitor. Perhaps it is necessary is some cases. I was just lucky and didn't need it. I hope you're able to get your unit fixed!
Mine lasted 2 weeks and went out again! Any suggestions?
Carlos Rubio then replace yamaha reciever the natural sound any RX or CX model its looks like good for so long👌👌👌
Never use lead-free solder it is crap and for a novice, it will just make things that much harder. Also never use a solder designed for pipework it has acids that can ruin a circuit board. yeh so if you had used the correct solder you would have had much better luck, live and learn I guess.
Thank you very matsch👍
We need more flux! xD
FLUX FTW
This hurts to watch. I'm no professional but do work on quite a bit of equipment. You need a much better solder gun and use a smaller diameter solder.
Это жах!!!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂if you dont know how to use a soldiering device leave it to profecionals, because trying to work with those ridiculous gloves, just getting in the way . I do this every freaking day for 35 years and never burn my finger like that.
"profecionals" :)