The Who - Paris , la Défense 2023 - Baba O'Riley - multicam - good sound

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  • made with videos posted by others but with my own sound. thx to them !
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  • @allanschollnick3119
    @allanschollnick3119 10 місяців тому +19

    Katie is an exceptional talent and adds a new dimension to an already impressive world class group. Roger, Pete and the band still sound amazing … great work all

  • @walterevans2118
    @walterevans2118 11 місяців тому +90

    Wish JOHN was here to be part of this. In my humble opinion he was the most EFFORTLESSLY BRILLIANT ROCK BASSIST WHO EVER LIVED .

    • @railwaystationmaster
      @railwaystationmaster 11 місяців тому +2

      SPOT ON SIR.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 11 місяців тому +3

      @@railwaystationmaster The thing about John was not just his virtuosity but his MELODIC AWARENESS with counterpoint in the Who's music. If one remembers the original DEMOS that Pete Townshend recorded at his home of what became the Who's Next album in 1971 all the guitar cutting edge stuff is there in the Guitar & the basic spark is his but in the Demos just listen to the counter melodies that John ADDED to the mix to totally open up the songs as pieces of music. Basslines like BABA O REILLY or GOIN' MOBILE ...They are just EXTRAORDINARY pieces of fast but MELODIC Music. Pete Townshend astutely remarked that John made the bass sound like a BACH ORGAN with the dynamics John's hands were able to articulate on the fretboard....His hands could be so sensitive but also so powerful in ways that could articulate harmonics & emotion into the strings. Another player could play through his gear but they couldn't sound like JOHN...No way. As a kid in 1972 I remember buying the brilliant single JOIN TOGETHER (which is such an ORIGINAL UNUSUAL sound arrangement) & on the flip side was a LIVE version of the Who playing 'Baby Don't You Do It' & I remember hearing Johns playing on it & thinking -'WHAT the F*** IS THIS' ?? ....I'm not even sure if its a GUITAR...Because John could play GUITAR on Bass....As a 10 yr old kid I'd only heard TOTP Mickey Mouse chart pop bands...IMAGINE hearing someone of JOHN'S MUSICIANSHIP among that lot ? ...lol

    • @ytzpilot
      @ytzpilot 10 місяців тому +7

      I did see The Who back in the 80s when John was with them, what I appreciate what they are doing here is not try to recreate those tours from the 70s or 80s with John or Keith, they travel with an orchestra now and they are far more low key about it. If they we’re trying to recreate those old days it would be terrible, they are doing something else to honour the music and the memories in the final years they have left

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ytzpilot yes. The WHO in their original form were just a TOTALLY UNIQUE BAND…Both a writers and musicians. Just astonishing.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ytzpilot I thought some of the recent compositions were damn good though. Particularly ‘All this Music Will Fade’….I can just imagine JOHN and KEITH being right up there with them PLAYING that LIVE and it being part of their classic stuff.

  • @pennellomusic
    @pennellomusic 10 місяців тому +73

    Roger Daltrey turned 79 this year. I can believe he still sings this way. Same applies to Pete Townshend, who's 78. I love the energy of these guys. Even though I don't like all the work they did throughout their carriers, I still admire them for the important contribution they brought to rock music. I usually hate to use big words, but these two men are legends to me.

    • @davidf6326
      @davidf6326 10 місяців тому

      'Roger Daltrey turned 79 this year. I can believe he still sings this way. Same applies to Pete Townshend, who's 78. I love the energy of these guys' - you're being sarcastic, yes? They look and sound ridiculous. So sad to see them trying - and failing dismally - to recreate past glories. ua-cam.com/video/SCNeVHv3Mlg/v-deo.html

    • @pennellomusic
      @pennellomusic 10 місяців тому +4

      @@davidf6326 i'm not. These men still want to play music and you can clearly see that it is not just about business. I couldn't say the same about the Stones, for example. Daltrey and Townshend are giving it all on the stage. Of course it's not the same as it was, but man, they're almost 80, considering their ages, I think their voices are in still in good shape!

    • @bwcbiz
      @bwcbiz 10 місяців тому +1

      I can't believe he's using auto-tune. Forgiveable at their age, but you can hear the notes being forced on the chorus. Listen to the slides on their 1978 performance for comparison.

    • @pennellomusic
      @pennellomusic 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bwcbiz Honestly I can't hear the autotune anywhere, instead I clearly see where he is struggling and using head voice for avoiding to scratch in the highest notes. Would you provide me some example in the minutes?
      PS My favourite version of this song live is this one: ua-cam.com/video/aruDK5EmAl8/v-deo.html The melodies of Daltrey are very close to this version, but it is mostly chest voice. And btw John Entwistle is killing in the version that I linked!

    • @bwcbiz
      @bwcbiz 10 місяців тому

      @@pennellomusic The version I'm comparing is this one ua-cam.com/video/Gu9HhYv0C7E/v-deo.html. And I have to say you're right it isn't auto-tune, but listen to "I fought for my meals. I get my back into my living." in the first verse. What I hear is that 2023 Daltrey is focusing on hitting the notes while the 1978 Daltrey is focused on the emotion of the lyric. Not really fair to compare performances 45 years apart, but it is what it is. Have to give them credit for having the balls to go on tour at ages 70+ and giving a respectable performance.

  • @Marc-lq2qf
    @Marc-lq2qf 11 місяців тому +45

    Very good! I'm happy to see Roger and Peter still in so good health , and able to play in front of such an audience in Paris! And what a strong female violonist they have found! Amazing!

  • @carmen-hs4cw
    @carmen-hs4cw 9 місяців тому +4

    Best live concert ever. Madison Square Garden 1972-73. My all-time favorite band. I'm 67 years old.
    Katie is a great violin player!!
    They still sound great 👍

  • @korky5214
    @korky5214 10 місяців тому +16

    I saw them in 1969 Isle of Wight festival, thank you to the Who for the music and now memorises of "The greatest of all music and time"

    • @algeebop
      @algeebop 9 місяців тому

      1970 actually. :)

  • @CarlosPT-hb6zb
    @CarlosPT-hb6zb 10 місяців тому +12

    My group. My legends. My song. My violin. In 2 more words: My generation. My life.

  • @robthornton6288
    @robthornton6288 11 місяців тому +28

    I, with my wife and younger daughter, saw them in Berlin on 20th June, and they were superb. The concert was in an outside amphitheatre and it wasn't dark enough when they were on stage, to benefit from the effects of the lighting as you obviously did in Paris. They're "getting on", but they can still rock/perform to make the hairs stand up on the back of my neck 🤘 My daughter said after the concert, that she remembered EVERY single word of the Quadrophenia excerpts. When I asked how, she told me that when I used to drive her and her sister to school, it was the only thing I played in the car. Brainwashing does work 👍😂

    • @nelson1953
      @nelson1953 10 місяців тому +1

      Your daughter surely has good memory too.

    • @YouzTube99
      @YouzTube99 10 місяців тому +1

      @robthornton6288
      Similar situation with one of our grandsons.
      Our daughter is a Beatles fan and regularly listened to their music while driving. One day she realized her son was singing along and knew every lyric. He was about six at the time and is a third generation Beatles fan even as an adult.

  • @paulfox1210
    @paulfox1210 10 місяців тому +9

    Saw the lads do this at Keele University early 1970s. It was their first number, the lights went down while the electro intro played then Roger & co slowly ambled on, took their places, lights came on and then Booom! Trouble is we were all seated on the floor and at the end offered fairly muted applause to which Pete went mad...shouting at us to get off out backsides and appreciate a new song! Hilarious looking back but it did the trick....esp when they started playing Tommy and all the hits etc. They are still the best live band I've ever seen. 🎸🎆

  • @richardbarrick1492
    @richardbarrick1492 10 місяців тому +9

    This Lady is AMAZING!!!❤

  • @epopeeyvette2943
    @epopeeyvette2943 11 місяців тому +16

    Roger Daltrey still can powerfully sings ❤️

  • @EarthAngel1111x
    @EarthAngel1111x 9 місяців тому +5

    Roger sounds GREAT ❤ and the violinist is SUPREME. Same great light show in Portland.

  • @jaimezal1
    @jaimezal1 9 місяців тому +5

    The Who...still rocking!

  • @jimcoleman598
    @jimcoleman598 11 місяців тому +14

    Still one of their show stoppers! Love the Who!

  • @jeanlucchapelon
    @jeanlucchapelon 11 місяців тому +12

    This violinist is so good and so sympa !!

  • @paulmewett528
    @paulmewett528 11 місяців тому +5

    Absolutely brilliant.❤

  • @robertmoss279
    @robertmoss279 11 місяців тому +15

    Makes my blood run cold, as always. The Who ❤

  • @AnthonyMoitzger-nw1id
    @AnthonyMoitzger-nw1id 11 місяців тому +5

    So cool 😎 they are on tour. Love the Who. Peace and joy 😊 thanks 8889

  • @henryfrost8542
    @henryfrost8542 11 місяців тому +5

    Brilliant! Unique band🎸🎸🎸

  • @javieramor4159
    @javieramor4159 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Simon, you keep us alive

  • @pierreba3814
    @pierreba3814 10 місяців тому +4

    J'y étais ce soir là, baba o'riley fut le meilleur moment de la soirée, Katie Jacoby est géniale !!

  • @the21stcenturydavincibegin35
    @the21stcenturydavincibegin35 10 місяців тому +2

    Always one of my favorite Songs of theirs! (And that Violinist!)

  • @johnwelsh6065
    @johnwelsh6065 10 місяців тому +4

    We are all getting old Rog!!

  • @jimwest4744
    @jimwest4744 11 місяців тому +5

    Sounding excellent

  • @robertokinks7251
    @robertokinks7251 11 місяців тому +3

    Goose bumps.... THE WHO . amazing

  • @geertjevandenbergh7972
    @geertjevandenbergh7972 10 місяців тому +1

    Great show❤❤

  • @user-hz5su6ug1k
    @user-hz5su6ug1k 10 місяців тому

    I loved it. But then again I grew up with these lads.

  • @alessandrorovacchi972
    @alessandrorovacchi972 10 місяців тому +1

    Bravo Maestro! Lovely song!

  • @alrightgeeza4216
    @alrightgeeza4216 10 місяців тому +13

    always wanted to hear them play that song live with a violin as it was originally recorded, instead of the harmonica. Shame it took them so long to give it a try, Katie showed you can definitely rock out the violin on stage.

    • @FedericoDLP
      @FedericoDLP 10 місяців тому +1

      Same here

    • @ramalama9650
      @ramalama9650 10 місяців тому +1

      It's like a beam of light when she comes out to play. She lifts it up so high. Amazing to see live!

  • @Paiadakine
    @Paiadakine 9 місяців тому +1

    These old geezers rock on!

  • @andrewirving1963
    @andrewirving1963 10 місяців тому +1

    My god.. love em.

  • @robertbarnes1226
    @robertbarnes1226 10 місяців тому +1

    A few years ago I was working with a musician from an equally famous British group when his phone went off and the ring tone was Baba O’Riley. I thought that must be the ultimate in Peer recognition! Ever since I’ve had the same ringtone 😁.

  • @anthonyrichard8001
    @anthonyrichard8001 10 місяців тому

    MAN O MAN!!! GREAT BAND!!!!! MORE BALLS THAN I GOT!! THX! ! SAW EM B4 DAT COVID THING!.IN WISCON.. USA!! THX!! THE BEST !!!! JUST FRIGN. GREAT!!!

  • @ichunddu529
    @ichunddu529 11 місяців тому +4

    Wir werden alle älter. Das sollten Roger und Pete auch langsam mal begreifen. The Who hatten ihre Zeit von Woodstock bis in die späten 70 Jahre, aber heute ist die Luft raus.

  • @baldurianful
    @baldurianful 9 місяців тому +2

    Que maravilloso tema. Incatalogable, eterno

  • @rainertrebbin-vf7nt
    @rainertrebbin-vf7nt 9 місяців тому +1

    ❤The Who❤

  • @oscarpaganini6359
    @oscarpaganini6359 10 місяців тому +2

    Me trajo recuerdos... que bien que aun siguen dando conciertos !!!

  • @Michael64425
    @Michael64425 5 місяців тому

    Amazing really how great they still sound.Of course technology can be of help these days in live sound .
    I hope they don’t go on too long though,perhaps make 2024 the final stage shows.Long live The Who🎉

  • @iliasgeorgantas6122
    @iliasgeorgantas6122 10 місяців тому +1

    Legends!

  • @bleedsmetal
    @bleedsmetal 9 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @danielmeehan1756
    @danielmeehan1756 11 місяців тому +9

    Katie Jacoby can play the violin.

  • @mac1975
    @mac1975 11 місяців тому +2

    Seen them 21 times. Blow me away every time. And it’s like the first time I saw them in ‘’13 at the o2

  • @berndgruner8510
    @berndgruner8510 10 місяців тому +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤Danke nochmal ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @raul_mp_producciones_chile
    @raul_mp_producciones_chile 7 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOO ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @christopherkeane2295
    @christopherkeane2295 10 місяців тому +5

    The Who!...who needs to say more? ❤

  • @EarthAngel1111x
    @EarthAngel1111x 9 місяців тому +2

    I loveYouRoger!!!! ; )

  • @paulfildes5489
    @paulfildes5489 10 місяців тому +1

    I was at the University of Leeds Refectory on Valentine's Day 14 February 1970 to see The Who....they recorded their 'Live At Leeds' album that night. The gig was pure, distilled power and the album was seen as one of the gold standards in live rock & roll...it certainly had a fury that no Who studio album achieved! That night their sprawling live versions of "My Generation" which included a massive dose of Tommy and "Magic Bus" were muscular, virtuosic and a hell of a lot of fun! A decade before punk rock emerged from the streets of New York and London, The Who were creating the blueprint. (The Ramones 'It's Alive' - recorded at the Rainbow on December 31, 1977 is another live classic). I remember images of Townshend strutting through London in his Union Jack flag suit, a walking, fast-talking, artist-rabble rouser writing hard, roaring anthems of discontent streaked with vulnerability.
    Anyone who missed the seventies, I’m truly sorry. Nothing compares, nothing.

    • @silasfatchett7380
      @silasfatchett7380 10 місяців тому +1

      I was walking out of my front door to go to that gig when my band turned up with a gig. I've been kicking myself ever since.

  • @berndgruner8510
    @berndgruner8510 10 місяців тому

    Danke ❤❤❤❤

  • @berndgruner8510
    @berndgruner8510 10 місяців тому +1

    ❤Danke ❤

  • @railwaystationmaster
    @railwaystationmaster 11 місяців тому +3

    WOW ! It almost defies belief the WHO could still pull this off they may be 2 down but the remaining 2 plus added ensemble really defies their age and oh the violinist delivers the magic that elevates this live performance into the stratosphere of delightful contentment .

    • @railwaystationmaster
      @railwaystationmaster 10 місяців тому +1

      WHO would have thought they’d still be rolling after the STONES had gathered moss !

  • @yannfernandes1
    @yannfernandes1 6 місяців тому

    Impressionante!

  • @pio007100
    @pio007100 11 місяців тому +1

    Enorme !

  • @paolodapp
    @paolodapp 10 місяців тому +1

    La violinista è splendida!

  • @carlosdanielscala8605
    @carlosdanielscala8605 10 місяців тому +2

    Molto bene grazie frufru-

  • @kencf0618
    @kencf0618 11 місяців тому +4

    Old guys still got moves.

  • @Owen_plays_music1049
    @Owen_plays_music1049 5 місяців тому

    Roger still sounds phenomenal ! Can't believe they are still touring...

  • @albertomarinofernandeztras5810
    @albertomarinofernandeztras5810 9 місяців тому +1

    Genial, me gusta, la IA para hacer el bien está genial

  • @bbbernard5640
    @bbbernard5640 10 місяців тому +2

    Une pensée affectueuse pour keith et John ...

  • @marcoowc95
    @marcoowc95 10 місяців тому +1

    nice place in frança ... nice sound ..

  • @walterfletcher8276
    @walterfletcher8276 10 місяців тому

    I tried to See them in England, but couldn't get the 3 days off to hop a flight. I was stationed in Germany. Shortly after Keith died. I Did See them at Shea Stadium. 1 of the other bands was The Clash. Good Show!!!

  • @foivoslegrand5445
    @foivoslegrand5445 8 місяців тому +2

    το μεγα γκρουπ παραμενει παντα μεγα!
    κανενα αλλο συγκροτημα δεν εχει σταθει στην κορυφη τοσα πολλα χρονια με πραγματικη ποιοτητα ηχου, και ουτε θα βρεθει αλλο ποτέ.

  • @franciscosaldana5186
    @franciscosaldana5186 10 місяців тому +2

    Daltrey's voice powerful as usual and a female violinist

  • @cbhrcbhr
    @cbhrcbhr 10 місяців тому

    WOW for the WHO

  • @zeppelinmexicano
    @zeppelinmexicano 10 місяців тому +2

    Surprisingly good vocals, but still a very tight band after all. The fiddler is a top beauty as well as talented.

  • @williamsomerville-tu9nf
    @williamsomerville-tu9nf 11 місяців тому +4

    Saw them twice Wembley 1979 then Edinburgh a year or two later great band John was there as well but no Keith unfortunately.

  • @YaofilsdelaJungle
    @YaofilsdelaJungle 9 місяців тому

    Super bon travail..
    Good job my dear...

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  9 місяців тому +1

      Merci mon cher ! Ça fait plaisir de voir le boulot d'édition apprécié ! C'est assez rare dans les coms.

    • @YaofilsdelaJungle
      @YaofilsdelaJungle 9 місяців тому +1

      @@beeftanen67
      C'est peut-être justement, parce que je travaille dans la Comm...
      Et de fait, quand j'apprécie le travail fait, je le dis... On dit toujours quand ça va mal, jamais quand ça va bien... faut changer ça.
      Et merci pour la réponse.

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 10 місяців тому +5

    she's a slice of heaven, and her playing is damn good too.

  • @user-yw6bb5gv6h
    @user-yw6bb5gv6h 9 місяців тому

    Que chingoneria

  • @direnova6284
    @direnova6284 10 місяців тому

    Oh thank God, they've still got it! I feel my team just scored a goal.

  • @andreadler3726
    @andreadler3726 10 місяців тому +1

    That violinist is have the time of her life

  • @jeanmichelgonzalez2696
    @jeanmichelgonzalez2696 8 місяців тому

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍❤❤❤🇫🇷

  • @13mikezebike
    @13mikezebike 9 місяців тому

    I think sometimes it s too late, you have to stop when you re in your glory Time..

  • @CPHSDC
    @CPHSDC 8 місяців тому

    Sally take my hand

  • @jimfromburbankca5253
    @jimfromburbankca5253 10 місяців тому +2

    Listen - I've been a WHO fan since Odds and Sods came out. But, even I recognize that the time has come to RETIRE. What are these guys going to be doing for an Encore - sing Baba ORiley when they are on HOSPICE.
    Enough already boys. You deserve a rest.

  • @haraldclaus1253
    @haraldclaus1253 10 місяців тому

    Das stimmt,John war ein exzellenter bassplayer,einmalig seine Spielart

  • @fab1651970
    @fab1651970 11 місяців тому

    The look in Pete’s eyes when Roger sings the chorus. Stop singing my shit!

  • @68lemonk
    @68lemonk 9 місяців тому +1

    Papy,it's time to sleep....😆

  • @marenpurves4493
    @marenpurves4493 10 місяців тому

    Wow. Knowing Pete Townshend is 10 years older than me, I hope I'll be in that shape 10 years from now. Love this song, and have since it came out.

  • @user-iv6xo4kj5v
    @user-iv6xo4kj5v 9 місяців тому +1

    Один из старых вечных хитов.❤

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  9 місяців тому

      и у них есть некоторые

  • @waltercatharina9625
    @waltercatharina9625 10 місяців тому +1

    Os velhinhos são bons !!!

  • @koopketee2829
    @koopketee2829 10 місяців тому +3

    Just Why? That time is long gone and at the age of 80 years, as you can see, you only make a fool of yourself; writes a 75 year old.

  • @wozza2942
    @wozza2942 11 місяців тому +5

    Roger's voice is better at 79 than it was at 69 or 59. Whatever he's taking, I want some.

  • @wernerpoeschl0510
    @wernerpoeschl0510 10 місяців тому +1

    Katie Jacoby, not only a pleasure to the ears but also a pleasure for the eyes.
    And it seems Roger practiced quite a lot for this tour. I remember a few years ago I thought to myself that it might be best to retire because his singing wasn't what is used to be. But now his vocals sound so much better than then. Of course it's not what it used to be in the 70s but meanwhile he's in his late 70s and a lot of other singers of his time sound horrible at that age

    • @user-mz8fq5fj8c
      @user-mz8fq5fj8c 10 місяців тому

      全く同意見ですが、ピートのギター演奏は精彩を欠くものとなってしまって残念です。

  • @slunkydandy7816
    @slunkydandy7816 10 місяців тому

    Pete looks very tired by the end of the show. He's just going through the motions on this song. Roger carries all the weight.

  • @russschofield94
    @russschofield94 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m a big big who fan but without Without THEE OXITS NOT The Who

  • @leopoldbaudat
    @leopoldbaudat 11 місяців тому +3

    Super ! Serait-ce possible de récupérer ton enregistrement du concert ? :D

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  11 місяців тому +2

      Merci. L'audio ?

    • @leopoldbaudat
      @leopoldbaudat 11 місяців тому +1

      Oui absolument ! J'ai foiré mon enregistrement, j'ai plein de blancs durant les morceaux...

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  11 місяців тому

      @@leopoldbaudat Donne moi un lien où je pourrai le déposer (dès que j'aurais fait un export car le brut est bien plus flat et le fichier est énorme)

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  11 місяців тому

      Le voici : ua-cam.com/video/-77SD_zH5yY/v-deo.html

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth 10 місяців тому +1

    This is sad. Soon these guys are actually going to start keeling over on stage - and everyone with he happy to be there.

  • @javieramor4159
    @javieramor4159 10 місяців тому +1

    Coño, teenage wasteland, como decía mi señora

  • @coole6825
    @coole6825 10 місяців тому

    👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐

  • @fromburgundy3316
    @fromburgundy3316 11 місяців тому +1

    Giant ...

  • @LarryEKG
    @LarryEKG 10 місяців тому

    I'm a huge fan of that song, but something tells me that was a recording she was playing to. It was just too perfect for such an 'acrobatic' player. Not a lick missed.

    • @alexp8764
      @alexp8764 10 місяців тому +2

      We're talking about capable musicians, who have been playing for years, not improvised people. the violinist could play with her eyes closed and with the instrument turned over, and upside down. It's not la boheme, or a piece of classical music, but we're talking about three notes counted in a rock song.

  • @mcmaximon1
    @mcmaximon1 11 місяців тому +5

    F*ck getting older.. This upsets me 😔

    • @beeftanen67
      @beeftanen67  11 місяців тому

      "better die before i get old"

  • @macarno71
    @macarno71 10 місяців тому +1

    Nostalgie. 45 ans plus tôt... ua-cam.com/video/Gu9HhYv0C7E/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheWhoVEVO

  • @sebuk26
    @sebuk26 9 місяців тому

    Csi NY 😊😂

  • @eberhardg.6204
    @eberhardg.6204 10 місяців тому +1

    😢 I love the WHO. But .....

  • @kb-tq5rr
    @kb-tq5rr 11 місяців тому +1

    Who is the violinist? DAVE ARBUS?!

  • @TOXIC-MUSIC
    @TOXIC-MUSIC 10 місяців тому

    who is that girl ?

  • @francescbarradocastells4917
    @francescbarradocastells4917 8 місяців тому

    no s'aguanten els pets però es mereixen un gran respecte pel que han sigut i són.

  • @pono780
    @pono780 11 місяців тому

    little sharp

  • @michaelanthony9068
    @michaelanthony9068 11 місяців тому

    Hired guns are good, but trying their best to hang on to the original feel.