Tekken RIPPED OFF Virtua Fighter?!

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Discover the hidden history of fighting games! This 30th Anniversary Virtua Fighter artbook reveals how the original devs went on to create TEKKEN characters like Jin Kazama, Devil Shark, and P-Jack. We break down:
    🔍 Side-by-side comparisons of VF & Tekken designs
    🎨 Never-before-seen concept art from the archives
    🕹️ Why the same devs shaped BOTH franchises
    Grab the Virtua Fighter 30th Anniversary Artbook
    #VirtuaFighter #Tekken #FightingGames #GamingHistory

КОМЕНТАРІ • 130

  • @TrickyEileen
    @TrickyEileen  12 днів тому +17

    Who copied who? VOTE 👇
    🦈 TEKKEN stole Devil Shark!
    🥊 VF did it first!

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +6

      Seiichi was a former VF employee yes without him NOT moving to Namco Tekken would have never existed 🤷

    • @edo_koganey
      @edo_koganey 11 днів тому +4

      I'm team VF 🥊 Even as a Tekken player (and VF Revo beginner)

  • @zeywop
    @zeywop 12 днів тому +53

    It was not until the 3rd DOYAH that i realized it was not Tricky making the noise 😂

  • @jazzoj5
    @jazzoj5 12 днів тому +59

    These dudes just went to Namco and reused all the characters they created for VF that didn't make the cut 😂

  • @coldsoul59
    @coldsoul59 11 днів тому +34

    Virtua Fighter and Tekken are brothers. Vf1 and T1 and 2 all had the same game designer Seiichi Ishii. They got a few younger siblings out there like Kabuto Chojin, but we don't talk about them. Vf is the older brother that always reminds people he's older and like 2 cm taller.

    • @ThisIsFinalRound
      @ThisIsFinalRound 11 днів тому +2

      Precisely 😂❤

    • @apophis7712
      @apophis7712 11 днів тому +2

      Ok, that last part is just spot on 😂

    • @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333
      @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333 9 днів тому

      Kakuto Chojin is pretty interesting and yet another hidden gem from og xbox. Also really love soundtrack there. Tobal games were pretty cool as well.

    • @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333
      @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333 9 днів тому

      Oh, and don't forget that Dead or Alive is VF's little sister :)

    • @coldsoul59
      @coldsoul59 8 днів тому

      @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333 I would say doa is a cousin or a distant relative for using the same arcade board but vf and tekken had the same game designer for there orginal games

  • @Gunbeard
    @Gunbeard 12 днів тому +56

    Without Virtua Fighter, we would not have had Tekken.

    • @jazzoj5
      @jazzoj5 12 днів тому +9

      Without Street fighter you wouldn't have had either.

    • @galacticspecter4364
      @galacticspecter4364 11 днів тому +3

      ​@@jazzoj5 Makes you wonder how many characters from Fatal Fury were just unused ideas from Street Fighter given they're from the same people.
      Street Fighter -> Fatal Fury
      Virtua Fighter -> Tekken

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому

      ​@@galacticspecter4364seiichi made VF then made Tekken

    • @apophis7712
      @apophis7712 11 днів тому +3

      ​@@jazzoj5
      Especially wouldn't have Akira who looks like someone cosplaying Ryu 😂

    • @mehgamer467
      @mehgamer467 11 днів тому

      Damn we just gonna ignore basic karate gi lol​@@apophis7712

  • @MiggieSmalls91
    @MiggieSmalls91 12 днів тому +30

    Hopefully in VF6 will see a boxer and more new fighting styles.

    • @jameshanken1446
      @jameshanken1446 11 днів тому +2

      Or a replay viewer

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому +3

      @@jameshanken1446 omg we USED to have a reply viewer and they took it from us

    • @lizzybennet5726
      @lizzybennet5726 11 днів тому

      That'd be great! With the K button being sway movements.

    • @MiggieSmalls91
      @MiggieSmalls91 10 днів тому

      @@lizzybennet5726 it would fit perfect for capoeira,eskrima (filipino kickboxing etc)

  • @MaxBraver555
    @MaxBraver555 11 днів тому +4

    That’s just Tekken’s humble beginning, a VF knockoff, character selection screen, I for one mistaken Tekken for VF before Tekken 3, but Tekken 3 is when the series took different direction

  • @BeAsT1x5
    @BeAsT1x5 11 днів тому +17

    LOL harada literally based his influence for Tekken off Virtua Fighter. he said it in several interviews

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +6

      Seiichi was a former VF employee then move to Namco to create Tekken bro

    • @stephansotomayor9696
      @stephansotomayor9696 11 днів тому +1

      Yes that is what he said
      Harada was inspired by tekken!

  • @waterdog737
    @waterdog737 11 днів тому +4

    Respect your Elders because some of the people who started Tekken had started Virtua Fighter before Tekken

  • @apophis7712
    @apophis7712 11 днів тому +5

    I literally thought Virtua Fighter was "Street Fighter at home" when I first saw it lmao

  • @tedyou8156
    @tedyou8156 12 днів тому +14

    They didn't take the CHARACTERS, they gave the same ARTIST new jobs....that's why they weren't sued. Or else YES it would be robbery I was thinking the same thing 😂

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +5

      Seiichi help develop virtual fighter then he moved to Namco to make Tekken then left and harada let Tekken 3 happen

    • @tedyou8156
      @tedyou8156 11 днів тому

      As long as y'all know, lol

  • @HungryArms
    @HungryArms 11 днів тому +2

    The Tiger Mask manga really ripped through fighting game devs like crack. Everyone wanted a Tiger Mask, Tekken with King, KoF with Ramon, SF2 almost had a Tiger Mask and now VF, the influence.......

  • @BoyBlaze2002
    @BoyBlaze2002 11 днів тому +3

    I’m not the tekken fan I thought I was. I only play with 2 characters and they’ve been omitted from the roster. Those 2 fighters are Baek Doosan, and Bruce Irvin, other than that I’m not really interested in the other characters. However I play with 6 characters in VF, those characters are, Kage Maru, Pai Chan, Sarah Bryant, Lion Rafale, Lei Fei, and Brad Burns.

  • @artofaries1113
    @artofaries1113 12 днів тому +11

    Sarah= Nina and Jack=Paul

    • @I_AM_BAYTOR
      @I_AM_BAYTOR 11 днів тому

      They're both quarter stealing whores.

  • @galacticspecter4364
    @galacticspecter4364 11 днів тому +10

    Namco really poached those VF team members from Sega and they just reused all their cut ideas from VF1 to make Tekken. They copied their whole flow, word for word, bar for bar!

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +8

      Seiichi was a former VF employee then move to Namco to create Tekken A little research wouldn't hurt guy's

    • @jazzoj5
      @jazzoj5 11 днів тому

      @@galacticspecter4364 can't really copy yourself lol

    • @demgreens
      @demgreens 11 днів тому +3

      It goes deeper than that. Namco derived their whole 3D animation workflow from Tekken which was designed by personnel poached from Sega. Before that, Namco's 3D games were racing games (Winning Run, Ridge Racer) or spacecraft games (Starblade) that involved non-articulated vehicles.

  • @maciomcmillan1214
    @maciomcmillan1214 11 днів тому +3

    Harada worked on virtual fighter .
    Game creators and ect was like trading cards with other companies.
    For example one of the street fighter creators left the company and made fatal fury and art of fighting .

  • @Tippotipo
    @Tippotipo 10 днів тому +1

    5:15 The only time we ever see Dural, Kage's mother, real human look is on secret ending of Saturn Virtua Fighter 2, where she shed the metallic scene. The face is identical.

  • @justrok79
    @justrok79 11 днів тому +3

    I think Seiichi Ishii just took designs that weren't used in the final build of VF over to Namco when he left.

  • @NovaSeiken
    @NovaSeiken 11 днів тому +3

    Takeru Ryushoji would end up becoming my favorite fighting game character EVER: Jean Kujo, the french Kyokushin karateka.
    (And what a great job they did...)
    Also, considering the time the first VF was released, having a Baji practitioner as your main character in your fighting game was a very bold and interesting move. No one made Bajiquan more iconic in videogame history than Akira!

  • @fkano
    @fkano 12 днів тому +15

    he looks more like kenshiro than jin to me

    • @rebirth2526
      @rebirth2526 11 днів тому +2

      yes very very Kenshiro and the actual Tekken has Star Platinum

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому +2

      @@rebirth2526 you know i can see it

    • @emotion.engine8
      @emotion.engine8 10 днів тому +1

      Kazuya was based on that era of shonen protags

  • @AirLancer
    @AirLancer 11 днів тому +2

    2:05 Guy on page 9 looks directly inspired by Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star. Specifically Kenshiro wearing Ein's glove when he went to the land of Shura.

  • @ManicOpake
    @ManicOpake 11 днів тому +2

    Nina and Sarah Bryant are pretty similar... 😅

  • @Helios6031
    @Helios6031 11 днів тому +3

    Well to this I'd also like to point out Leo and Lars were also probably heavily inspired by DoA characters Elliot and Hayate. Leo is a lot more cut and dry to me: their name, appearance, and fighting styles overlap a lot. Lars as a whole may have more coincidental similarities to Hayate but here's my case: Lars was designed by Kishimoto (creator of Naruto) so Bandai looked at a ninja for inspiration and found Hayate's moves to fit. I am not a DoA player but coming from Tekken, these two almost seem to share the Dynamic and Silent Entry stances. The only thing I don't see Lars being able to do is swap sides through the stance outside of a combo.

  •  11 днів тому +1

    7:36 that 2° ninja character reminds me Hayate and his design from Dead or Alive 3 and 4

  • @TheDarkknightrules92
    @TheDarkknightrules92 11 днів тому +2

    Well, in a sense both Kazuya and Akira are based off Street Fighter's Ryu. So all these fighting games borrow stuff and are influenced by each other.

  • @spittingame4241
    @spittingame4241 11 днів тому +3

    When you point it out, it makes sense

  • @WhoaMykey
    @WhoaMykey 11 днів тому +1

    God bless you 😂😂😂❤❤❤ Can’t wait for VF6

  • @MrNinjafreak
    @MrNinjafreak 11 днів тому +2

    TMM's main was a VF character all along.

  • @shenelljohnson74
    @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +2

    Harada didn't make those designs it was seiichi he was the one that work on VF then move to Namco to create Tekken..But kazuya design was inspired by a real life man called yukio Mishima

  • @tomoe7255
    @tomoe7255 12 днів тому +2

    Yippie you made it! Okay I can defend taka and Jeffrey since those are super generic, BUT MY MAN, THAT'S LITERALLY JIN TEKKEN AND KING LOL.
    On that note, on your short you said that tekken 8 did some parts of VF but didn't fully commit, it'd be cool to hear a more in depth analysis of that, since a LOT of new players are coming from tekken 8!

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому

      you are good a picking vid ideas i swear goated

  • @YellowFellow86
    @YellowFellow86 11 днів тому +2

    Wonder if they will put a boxer or capoeira fighter in or will they pick more obscure styles🤔?

  • @MarioUcomics
    @MarioUcomics 11 днів тому +1

    Give us the devil shark mint game in the new VF

  • @EdibleKnife
    @EdibleKnife 11 днів тому +3

    *looks at title*
    yea i believe it

  • @FoxMulder63
    @FoxMulder63 11 днів тому +3

    So, Tekken wasn't a clone of VF, it was the leftover 🤣 ... but sure characters' first concepts were so obvious ...

  • @taylorbee4010
    @taylorbee4010 10 днів тому +1

    Vf vs Tekken when

  • @ragingtyga
    @ragingtyga 11 днів тому +1

    Are we saying that people forgot that the many of the game designers for the original VF, left, and went on to make up the team that eventually created Tekken?

  • @nonGigi
    @nonGigi 10 днів тому

    Mark my words we're going to get Akira in T8 this year

  • @misterkiller89
    @misterkiller89 12 днів тому +1

    The King-like design in VF and...JAWS is wild...I want JAWS back....

  • @superdupeninja8149
    @superdupeninja8149 12 днів тому +7

    VF is the spiritual godfather to Tekken, but Tekken swagged unmatched 😎

  • @SirBranDon24
    @SirBranDon24 9 днів тому +1

    Been enjoying r.e.v.o, other than a few lagging matches. Got akira beating people up as the dragon of dojima

  • @twincast2005
    @twincast2005 9 днів тому

    3:05 The interesting part here is in the text. It was supposed to be a Countess Duralmin from the former USSR.

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 9 днів тому +1

      10:30 Her actual identity, however, already was Kagemaru's mother Tsukikage (as seen earlier). Pages 41 and 42 give us basically the whole lore on the game's villains, Red Scorpion, not Justice 6, hellbent on world domination through chaos. The question mark head is their late evil leader, Sasoriew (a blatant pun on Japanese sasori = scorpion) Colscoru (? my layman's attempt at getting a real-sounding name out of the kana Korusukoru), who tried to unlock immortality via genetic experimentation. The head below is his eldest son, the current leader Rekka (?) who wants to create the world's strongest fighter. The two below are his younger brothers, twins Score (?) and Ion (?), the former is the brains and created the "artificial" human Silver Armor (really brainwashed Tsukikage), the latter is the brawns. Below them are Red Scorpion's three fighters: "sandstorm machoman" Majid ab Dul, Akira's former senpai Ryuushouji Takeru/Takeshi who uses an evil Bajiiquan style he calls Bashaquan, and former soldier Jeffry Bachmann who has trained a brainwashed Sara Bryant as a warrior.

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 9 днів тому

      Two small corrections: The aforementioned name pun is nevertheless clearly intended, but they actually bothered to slightly modify it by flipping the first two kana (which is fairly common), so it's Sosariew (or Sosariev or Sosarieff depending on Cyrillic-to-Latin transcription), but my brain automatically "corrected" the order after seeing Scorpion. And it's actually clear that the reading of Akira's senpai's given name was intended to be Takeshi, as it's spelled out in Latin letters on a previous page that I apparently had forgotten about by the time we got to the meaty one.

  • @PirataMundoTV
    @PirataMundoTV 11 днів тому +1

    4:07 His look reminds me of Cheng Sinzan from Fatal Fury

  • @Andeypg
    @Andeypg 11 днів тому +1

    The ripp off game is more popular😂😂fun this situation reminds me of Oreo and hydrox and all of us loves the ripp off more

  • @hjblacdes61
    @hjblacdes61 11 днів тому +2

    OG Sarah looks like a Mii lol

  • @sagittariusseiya8310
    @sagittariusseiya8310 7 днів тому

    Bandai Namco copy Virtua Fighter to make Tekken is that they like idea what Yu Suzuki is making of the Virtua Fighter characters.

  • @Pratapana
    @Pratapana 11 днів тому

    They also pulled from Soul Calibre. I prefer VF 4 and of course games like bloody roar and even dead or alive.

  • @KDQAssassin
    @KDQAssassin 12 днів тому +2

    Chill on brad Lmaooooo love ya tricky

  • @Kisaragixl495
    @Kisaragixl495 11 днів тому +1

    That's crazy

  • @Dee15gon
    @Dee15gon 9 днів тому

    Stolen?? No they weren't...
    The game designer of Virtua Fighter 1 was game designer of Tekken 1 & 2...
    Virtua Fighter is why Tekken exists...
    Dead or Alive also existed because of Virtua Fighter (Akira, Pai, Sarah, & Jacky guest starred in DOA5).

  • @Gilbot9000
    @Gilbot9000 11 днів тому

    TALK TO EM QUEEN

  • @gakiNEMO
    @gakiNEMO 11 днів тому +1

    Seiichi Ishii

  • @zzzzz333-z5x
    @zzzzz333-z5x 11 днів тому

    yo the Doyahs im crying

  • @1234_Flux
    @1234_Flux 9 днів тому

    So they all ripped each other off

  • @RICKYMATTHEWJME
    @RICKYMATTHEWJME 11 днів тому +1

    i have heard VF producer or some one in VF was a part of tekken 1

  • @wisdomseeker0142
    @wisdomseeker0142 11 днів тому +1

    Lmaooooooo the intro has me fried af. 😂😂😂😂😂 hilarious 😆

  • @misterkiller89
    @misterkiller89 12 днів тому +3

    this is a HOT TAKE....

  • @DJCocoaButter
    @DJCocoaButter 11 днів тому +1

    I mean during the 90s, nearly all 3D fighters had the same devs. Virtua Fighter being the first 3D fighter then had those same devs branch out to Tekken. I'm also very sure they branched out to Tobal No.1 and Ergheiz God Bless The Ring.

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому +1

      Pretty much!

    • @jazzoj5
      @jazzoj5 11 днів тому +2

      Yeah, Godhand from Ergheiz is literally the lost Mishima

  • @RGF91
    @RGF91 9 днів тому

    WHAT THE DORYA?!!!!!

  • @E.e.V.e.E
    @E.e.V.e.E 11 днів тому +2

    so Virtua Fighter had the chance to be the "cool" fihgting game but they didn't want to
    and when the designer left and made Tekken now Sega cry about it?

  • @CovertYin
    @CovertYin 11 днів тому

    Everyone knows this.
    Tekken devs have said it themselves.

  • @EpicPour99
    @EpicPour99 11 днів тому

    sound effects annoyed me

  • @ilyamuromez6412
    @ilyamuromez6412 11 днів тому

    *Gasp* Namco how could you?

  • @christopherharris6601
    @christopherharris6601 10 днів тому

    Virtua fighter are jus normal characters

  • @eli-j-a-h.
    @eli-j-a-h. 11 днів тому

    9:01 OH NO😂 MY GUY

  • @DaPhenomAce
    @DaPhenomAce 11 днів тому +3

    I don't care who copied what, Tekken did it better!

    • @orlanzo2621
      @orlanzo2621 11 днів тому +3

      No, no it didn’t, lmao.

  • @MegaBat91
    @MegaBat91 11 днів тому +2

    Tekkn 1 and 2 are the only vf clones, and those are the worst playing games in the series. Tekken 3 was a vast improvement to the 3-D fighting game world. I am grateful to vf for giving us tekken, but tekken improved upon what vf was trying to do. Even in tekken 1 and 2.

    • @joshbell123
      @joshbell123 11 днів тому +4

      Tekken wasn't a better game until MAYBE 5DR. VF3 was ok, probably a weaker entry in my opinion but VF4 and 4evo are arguably the best VF games. The reason Tekken sold better was it was a PlayStation game and VF was stuck on the Saturn and dreamcast for most of its life until vf4. Just my 2 cents

    • @MegaBat91
      @MegaBat91 11 днів тому +2

      @@joshbell123 I've enjoyed every tekken game more than vf. I was never referring to sales as an indicator of what game was better.

  • @jimmyc2358
    @jimmyc2358 11 днів тому

    Generic characters based mostly on 70s and 80s entertainment. I wouldn’t call any of it stolen for VF, the guy you say is Jin looks like Kenshiro.

  • @Zombiebone95
    @Zombiebone95 11 днів тому +1

    so you either say fuck less often. or you dont put on that annoying ass masher reina dorya audio WAY TOO LOUD on my ears. ive lost count on them in 3 minutes

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому

      Orrr we keep all the fcks and get the demo police on my ass in the first two minutes

  • @versatilelord8893
    @versatilelord8893 12 днів тому +1

    I don’t see the Jin resemblance, I think ganryu came before taka but shaheen definitely looks very heavily inspired by the siba character
    I heard siba was supposed to be the main character but was scrapped for akira instead lol

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 9 днів тому

      I'm genuinely baffled you don't see it, Jin looks like Kazuya, and Kazuya looks like this Takeru.
      And no, Siba (Shiva?) was never meant to be the main character. That's a misconception purely based on early arcade cabinets that have his face labeled Akira due to who makes the cut on the final roster having been quite in flux. (Heck, back when the game actually had a story, he was part of the villain faction.) Akira and Jacky were always meant to be the Ryuu and Ken of Virtua Fighter(s). If Akira had been cut, I'm quite certain Jacky would've been the one and only poster boy.

  • @roxas3soraxxx
    @roxas3soraxxx 11 днів тому

    you say don't shit on our game and yet your game company sega just re-released a game trapped people into preordering vf5 revo early in December at the early discount price of $15.99 and then made it the same price "$15.99" at launch but for the people who bought that barebones game including myself cant refund it cause it was wayyy past refund date Pretty offensive if you ask me

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому +1

      I never said don’t shit on business practices

  • @hakcohon9842
    @hakcohon9842 12 днів тому +1

    Both of rival or competitor. You can basically saying Marvel copy DC and vice versa.
    No need to butthurt on this.

    • @jajuancool6460
      @jajuancool6460 11 днів тому +2

      marvel literally did copy dc sooo don't know what point you try to make.

    • @shenelljohnson74
      @shenelljohnson74 11 днів тому +1

      Seiichi was a former virtual fighter employee then he moved to Namco to create Tekken research can help you guys you know You don't have to guess it's a bit irritating

    • @TrickyEileen
      @TrickyEileen  11 днів тому

      yes this video sounded very butthurt. I'm so mad

  • @aznthy
    @aznthy 9 днів тому

    Tekken worked with VF people as well as the DOA people

  • @elxero2189
    @elxero2189 11 днів тому

    Lol does it even matter any more