RG Showdown - Ibanez J Custom RG vs Ibanez Premium RG
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Here I compare the J Custom - top of the line professional Ibanez against the RG Premium 1120 PBZ - cheapest professional RG. I talk about the differences and then do a sound comparison and see if the Ju Custom is worth $1500.00 more then the premium.
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00:00:00 Intro
07:20:00 Sound Test
14:01:00 Outro and Opinions
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the tremolo system is different...both edge zero..but, J custom has the expensive Edge Zero with ZPS3, while the premium has Edge Zero 2...which is cheaper version (chaper materials, alloys, etc + ZPS3 FE system, which is not quite as sturdy as the ZPS3 from the J custom). Ibought a J Custom RG8570Z in Royal Blue Sapphire brand new 3 weeks ago and it is beautiful! all around extremely well made. It was made in 2021, and nobody bought it for 2 years - the guitar sat in the case well kept and unplayed, but had time to settle and wood be able to settle down, and I decided I shall get it. Took off 1 level of the brass nut shims, for lower 1st fret action and I have a 0,9mm action at 12th fret. Pickups are creammy and can definitely shred. Definitely worth the price difference even from my RG550 genesis from 2021 (funny thing both my J Custom and RG550 were built in July 2021..a few days apart from each other). Cheers!
Yes. The system itself is different but the work exactly the same for the zero system....but with that being said, one of my main gigging guitars is the 1120 pbz with the cheaper system on it and I have had 0 issues on it. It works flawlessly show after show. Regardless, dude that is amazing you found that guitar and congrats on getting it. They are amazing aren't they? More than likely I will be replacing the pickups with the DiMarzio Fusions that I have in my 1120. But quick story. I moved to AL for a little over a year for work. Walked into guitar center and there was a Les Paul with a floyd hanging on the wall. IN GUITAR CENTER. I asked the dude what it was doing there and he said it was a mistake shipment. It had been there for 2 1/2 years and they had the price down to 3400.00. It old them if they would do 3k I would buy it. He said he needed a day to talk to the manager. I figured 3400 is actually really good on that guitar. Went back the next day......sold. Someone walked in and bought it after it sat there for 2 1/2 years. Amazing. Point.....shocking you found that guitar.
For me B sounds better no matter which one is it; all over rounder, darker, fuller and balanced tone in my opinion. Clean sound says everything :) . Would have been nice to write which pups are selected when the guitars are playing.
Thanks for the nice comparison!
Yeah B is the J Custom. It does have a better tone. A little warmer and like you said rounder. Not quite as bright and cutting.
Great comparison
The build quality of guitars is so good these days . All the high end guitar features trickle down . Over the years . And now the mid range prices are above and beyond .
Absolutely. The premium Ibanez guitars are great. For the money you cannot beat them. Also, the standard wolfgangs are amazing for that 800 price point.
A lot of times it sounded like the same instrument to me. a couple times tied for sure but if I had to pick A or B, I think I'd prefer B. Is it worth $1500 difference, if the pricier axe not at my level. I like the Sweet clean sounds warmer tones. But those sweet tones were tied on those parts.
Listening through head phones it sounds like guitar A was the Premium and B was the J custom. Both guitars were very similiar on the solo portion but B was definitely warmer on the arpeggios and rhythm section. I personally liked the brighter sound of guitar A vs B. I just wonder if the type of pickups on the RG Premium are giving it a brighter sound. It would be interesting to hear the difference in the S body Premium (Pbz) vs the J custom with a more similiar pickup line up.
Good ear brother. B was the J custom and yes the premium is brighter. It has the fusion pickups with a basswood body and that does make it brighter. I will check on doing a video with the S series I am giving away and the J Custom. Thanks for the comment my friend.
They may sound similar, although guitar A had more higher frequencies, but the point is, I am going to play a guitar that is made of the best possible materials and that is the most comfortable for me to play. This makes the J Custom the clear winner.
Oh no doubt. The J Custom is just a level above everything else. It is literally one of the finest guitars I have ever played.
Trace
im being contacted by someone who says they are you on an RG giveaway?
please confirm
It is not me.
To my ears, the differences are very small and I have a tie across the board. For me, I would guess the main difference comes down to the pickup choices as the the J.custom have Air Norton, True Velvet and The Tone Zone, while the Premium have a set of Fusion Edge. Both sounds great, though! 🙂
Yes both sound wonderful. The J custom was B and that is what I was trying to explain. You can almost make all guitars sound incredibly similar with a little tweaking. Thanks for the comment my brother Sweetwater John.
I did a short video attempting to play part of the solo to Tuesday's Gone on one of my RGs. Of course I get a comment that that song is meant to be played on a Les Paul... I politely responded that I don't own a Les Paul, nor do I want one, I'm an Ibanez fan, and I'll play whatever I want on them.
Yeah man you have to be prepared for all the idiots that will make ridiculous comments anytime you put up a video. I get some of the dumbest comments you can imagine. The video I did about Deen Castronovo and Steve Perry, someone said it was clickbait, and the video Is literally about Deen Castronovo and Steve Perry. Oh...and when you put up a video everybody in the world is an expert but you. You should have replied to that person....you buy me a Les Paul and I will reshoot it to make you happy. Other than that....I am a Ibanez fan also, and except for my wolfgangs, I play everything on an Ibanez. Just keep playing and posting your videos. Haters will always hate.
@@TraceTaylor3 Oh, I actually enjoy those comments. Had another dude comment, "never too late to delete this video. Maybe learn how to hold a pick first." I burst out laughing at that one. 🤣 i paralyzed my radial nerve in my right arm back in 2014, I couldn't lift my wrist or uncurl my fingers, and after almost a year, they said I was probably permanantly paralyzed. Thank God it came back, and it's a miracle that I can even play guitar now. 🤷♂️
@@scramblesthedeathdealer Way to go brother. Pretty cool you are even able to play at all. Hell, I would do a video on that.....don't let it get you down and play is what I would call it. Yeah, I get crap like that all the time. I had one person say I was an arrogant asshole and they would love to punch me in the face. I replied....Don't get mad at me because you suck at guitar.
I got an idea for a future video idea show us how to adjust that ZPS LoL I cant get that thing level and keep the block against the stop bar to save my life and Im sure i am not the only one out here very little info on them .
Actually brother I have one coming up in a few weeks. Stay tuned my friend.
Waw. I so preferred A!
Out of all my guitars my standard 5150 and standard Wolfgang sare my favorites,my new kramer 84 is very nice don't like the jb pups as much as I do Wolfgang pups. All guitars are different they have there own characteristics in opinion, my Peavey special edition hp with 40 yr old aged wood ,birds eye maple neck maple cap bass wood body is very nice ,they all sound different to me
All great guitars my friend. I love my wolfgangs. Those were the guitars that got me started. Still have not got an 84 but that is on the hitlist. Thanks for the comment brother.
Nice guitars though. I want a J custom Someday. I am currently making a custom pia with a basswood body and rg570 neck
You are making one? You are cutting the body?
@@TraceTaylor3 I bought a body that was unfinished. I have it primed now going to start painting it soon.
I had it made with direct pickup mounts instead of a pickguard and a battery compartment, with a standard jack hole instead of the angled one. To me the angled hole no longer makes sense in the age of wireless.
The parts I am using.
RG570 neck, i scalloped the last 6 frets and crowned / polished the frets
Gotoh gold tuners
Gotoh gold floyd
EMG gold 57/66
EMG ivory SAX
Fender gold infinity strap locks
A floyd stablizer with a custom brass claw
33 mm brass floyd block
The original PIA metal back plate with 3m magnetic tape
Custom polished brass truss trod cover
I am painting it with Toyota Supra white pearl paint and a 2k high gloss clear, I used a 2k epoxy primer. Painting the neck as well and I will make the back of the neck a matte finish.
@@anthonyallard3156 Dude you have to send me a pic when you get this done. I still like then angled jacks. A lot of times when I play live I will stick the guitar on my thigh and I cannot do that with a standard jack. I just like them out of the way but that is all about what you like and don't on guitars. Honestly, the only way to get what you want on a guitar is to do what you are doing. Let me know when you get that done. I would love to see it.
@@TraceTaylor3 That makes sense on the angled jack, hopefully i didnt make the wrong choice. Main reason is I have a line6 wireless that won't work with it and many others won't without an extra cable or something to plug into it.
@@TraceTaylor3 Ill send some photos when I am done, probably like 3 weeks away from finishing it between all the drying and sanding times.
I have a fast question: first, I mean no disrespect. I have listened to Ibanez guitar players... their guitar sounds metallic like... do you hear it? its bright and metallic. You know why?
I know exactly what you are talking about. Ibanez generally puts very hot pick ups in their guitars. Also people who generally play those guitars use in extreme amount of distortion and sometimes the sounds can come out a little metallic and tinny sounding. Now, since a lot of Ibanez guitar players play metal that usually the sound that comes out. However, it’s easily fixable just by tweaking your amp. Also, they have some guitars that they run a PAF style pick up which sounds completely different. I will do a video with one of my guitars with different sounds and give you an idea of what I’m talking about. I’ve been wanting to do one anyway to show the versatility of these guitars, even the metal ones.
Just to add to the response above they use ceramic in alot of the rg models they are always gonna be brighter sounding than say alinco he's right though the AZ models and les Paul style guitars aren't designed with pointy guitar sounds
@@JethroBoDean Thanks for the backup my friend.
The older I get, the more I hear, from any level of guitar, when playing with high gain riffs and rythem , is an inherent “skiritch scratch..”, right beneath the guitar part, that sounds to me almost like 2 guitars, one playing the part, and the other, a troll.. a gremlin, mimicking every move I, or who I’m listening too does. I wish there was a way to filter this out.., on the other side of things, sometimes, I get lucky, and hear a different voice to the gremlin, a whipping, almost super fast jump rope whoosh that I love!, that is rare, especially me pulling it off., what do you think?
The first thing I have to ask is what is your rig setup? Are you playing FOH or through an amp?
@@TraceTaylor3 I have a few different rigs, tube amps, etc, I also play through 2 boss katana amps sometimes, one of my favorite rigs is an isp preamp pedal, into a line6 m9, into a crown power amp, into a Randal 2x12 cabinet., guitars are Ibanez rg550np, Ibanez 5120 frozen ocean, and an Ibanez rg7 pcmltd. , and a few classics I like to play with., but not with hi gain., sometimes I think my hearing has been damaged over the years
To be more specific, the tube amps are a fender hot rod deluxe, great cleans with the strat and Les Paul,, and a 2008, or ‘09 peavey). 2x12 100w valveking , 1’st year I think.., which is a good amp, especially with an ext.speaker, but it’s loud!, so I use a boss katana 100w 2x12 combo, and I like to connect 2 of them, one about 10’ away from the other.
But the ISP hi gain preamp pedal, the red one, has the best gain of anything I’ve played through so far., and has built in ISP noise suppression., connected to the crown 450w power amp and only the Randall 2x12, is the best, cleanest sounding heavy high gain tone I’ve ever had, I’m really happy with it. The scrich scratch sound I described, I think, is an exaggerated sound of the pick scratching over the strings while riffing with high gain, that and possibly speaker break up, to a degree..that should be able to be EQ’d out..,that sound really drives me nuts, once I heard it the first time, I avoided it like the plague.
@@jcrgtattoo333 I was getting ready to ask you what pick do you use. When I play high gain...as I usually do because of my band, If I listen I can hear the pick on the strings....and sometimes it drives me crazy. The thinner the pick the more noticeable. Also if I pick too heavy it becomes very obvious also. I have been testing picks like crazy lately, I try to put a pick review at the end of some of my videos. If you don't mind a think pick...try a Blue chip. they glide across the strings like oil and out of the countless picks I have tried they are by far the most quite. The downside is they do not pick slide with a crap because the literally glide across the strings. They are pricy however. One pick can be 50 bucks but they never wear out. I have on of the jazz 35's that I have been using for 4 years and it shows hardly any wear. The literally produce 0 pick scratch. The V picks work pretty well also. They are only about 5 bucks a pick. the are acrylic and seem to do pretty good but not as good as the blue chip.
I think B is the J custom it sounds warmer and full.
Excellent ear. B is the J Custom. Very good my friend.
Hi Trace Mate I think both sound Godd A is a bit brighter and B warmer Bytheway I not sure how but I think ur UA-cam account has been hacked somehow because I get occasional notifications to say You have been selected blah blah text here . I know it's not You . maybe youtube can help with that All the Best Pete
Yes. someone has gotten into my account. I am working on that now. Oh. B is the J Custom. good ear my friend.
A for dirt. B for cleans. Very similar though, can barely tell any difference.
trace im being contacted by "you?" about an rg5320 giveaway
looks pretty fishy please confirm
Good ear and yes I agree. B was the J custom and has a cleaner warmer tone all the way around. Thanks brother.
Discord pissed me off for censorship.
Wood has notbing to do with the sound how ever the pick ups do short of playability that should be the only difference you should have got 2 guitars with tone zone and what ever the other hummbucker is and there would have been no way to tell listening playing I'm sure you would prefer 1 over the other anyway that's my 2 cents for what it's worth
Of course wood plays a role in sound it's a combination of everything
@@rocksteady6448 it doesnt but you can think what you want its been proven over and over an electric guitar solid body has no to little effect to anything the human ear can discern
Thanks for the comment. Actually wood plays quite a part in the sound. Granted a huge part of it is the pickups but certain woods will make the guitar a little snappier or a touch brighter but you are correct to an extent. With a little tweaking you can make any guitar sound just about like any other guitar with everything being equal.
@@TraceTaylor3 I'll agree to dis agree I've watched lots of videos disproving that assumption 1 guy took his strings and tuned it across nothing but air had a nu a bridge and a pickup no noticeable sound even in the sign wave and definetly not any change the best hearing human could discern solid body guitars don't effect the sound you hear the nut the bridge the pickup the only thing the strings come into contact with amplified you'll hear a difference not plugged in but amplified no
Now playing a guitar with different woods and feel will make you play to or with that particular feel so yes it does make a difference in how it will sound but that's only the human factor coming through not the wood itself changing what the pickup is receiving and sending
AHAHAHA it is a trick, nobody is playing them they both are just sitting there in the video.
Damnit. you found out. That has been my secret all along.
Wood makes 0 difference in tone its a myth
When it is plugged in it is very little but unplugged it makes a massive difference. You can tell how lively a guitar is going to be when it is unplugged and that is from the wood they use. That is like saying that wood in acoustics make no difference. If that were the case they would all use the cheapest wood they can find.
@TraceTaylor3 plugged in it pretty much makes 0 difference. Of course unplugged it might make some. Even then its more about the nut body shape bridge and strings.
Acoustic of course a massive difference.
@TraceTaylor3 the paint job probably makes as big of a difference as the wood.
If you clear coated 1 guitar 2x as much or compared poly to nitro on the same wood vs a different wood that had the same coating it would probably be similar.
The main reason different woods that are more expensive used is looks or to sell people that just want expensive shit.
Opaque guitars if you notice mostly use alder ash or basswood
@@anthonyallard3156 Yes. I can make any guitar sound like any other guitar....but the first thing I do when I get a new guitar is play it unplugged. I want to hear the overtones. My 5320 and my J custom sound nearly identical unplugged but both different then my 1120 with a basswood body, everything else being about the same. My 1120 sounds a little more lively and I can tell a difference when I play plugged in.