One thing that keeps me from van life is the need to have a workspace with a large monitor and ergonomic chair. Using one of the chairs in the cab and a small flip up table and laptop doesn't do it for the work I do. I've seen van builds with dedicated desk areas, big monitors and a decent chair, but they also take up a lot of space. It would be cool to see a build like this where, when the bed is flipped up, it turns into a dedicated desk somehow with a mounted widescreen monitor and area for keyboard and mouse. Maybe with a decent chair mechanism on the other half. Work by day, sleep by night, instead of trying to have both dedicated areas taking up room in the van at the same time.
I like the way you're thinking! what about when the bed folded up a table folded out from the backside and the monitor was mounted to the bottom of the deck pad. The nice thing about the system is its versatility, and I know that that could be done on the underside of one of the beds. I just wonder if the other bed would work as a good seat for you depending on the height
The chair is the challenge… a second panel built with a large monitor ( possible curved) and a fold down desk/keyboard segment would take up 4-6” using a secondary cantilever… for the chair a drop in pedestal may be an answer, or a heavy laguna style swivel could be an option.. the seat then becomes the last design hurdle. Modified camp chair that can fold away… 🤷♂️
just adjust the hight so one is the table and the other one is de chair, and place the matrasses any way that feels right and/or the necessary ergonomics on the one that is the chair. the computer can stay under and the screen(s) can fold down from the ceiling, or you can just place them up there and down again when you want make the whole bed, screens aren’t that heavy i think 🙏
I'm thinking of a fold up desk that's mounted underneath one side of the Murphy bed. So put the Murphy bed down on one side leave the other side up and then fold that desk down from that. Should work. Haven't tried it yet but in theory it looks good
Maybe someday we’ll be able to do those smaller vans, right now we’re concentrating on the sprinter and transit. Thanks for the vote of confidence though.
I love the versatility. It would be fun to use bottom bunks as sofas and host a party. Good space for cooking and desk as is, or you could install this system in a shorter van and have bunks, desk, and sofa in the back! Thanks,
Thanks for the comment, from all of my studies in the last three years of the beds available out there I tend to agree. The system is simple, sturdy, and versatile. I hope to help a lot of people with the system
Awesome stuff. I was planning to toss out the mattress and buy a latex one, but you did it right. Where is the system made and where are the parts sourced from?
Hi and thanks for contacting me. What kind of van are you working on? Have you started anything else on the build part? My email is Ted@VanMurphyBed.com I’ll try to send you over a few pictures of things I think you might want to look at.
I had plans to DIY a similar system for a Transit Trail buildout, though Ford couldn't deliver in 2023 with a 2022 order. I was inspired by the German twin bed layout. Nice to see a design in the US is engineered and made available. Though I wanted a few differences. I wanted it to work in a
I love to see what you're thinking about on paper can you shoot me an email with the drawing, I think it'll work perfectly for what you're describing so far. Good luck on the transit I think that's the right vehicle to be using these days. I actually have one ordered too
What is the width and length of the platform that the mattress sits on when in sleep mode - not including the short piece that it folds up onto when it’s in closed mode? And then what is the width of the platform that it rests on when it is in closed mode.
The lower deck is 23 1/2 inches wide. We leave a 2 inch gap between the two beds. The upper queen is 19 1/2 Overall, I think it’s 63 inches wide, that’s determined by your van basically you’re going wall to wall less the paneling
What are the dimensions? is the mattress included? How many cantilever brackets are under the bed. In one angle it looked like there were two and in another angle it looked like there were three?
Another good question! Mattress is your choice. We like the Roam Rest system, but you can use any Foam you’d like. In the picture, you’re saying the prototype truck, we started off with three studs, but were able to use two with a stiffening bar underneath the board. That lowers the cost and is just stable.
our system will work fine with the Adventure wagon LT system. It’s a independent stud that goes in front of the wall that allows you to have four independent bunkbeds or two queen size beds. Everything is adjustable up and down. What area are you contacting us from. Have you worked with a professional Van builder in your area?
Great video and super helpful! Where did you buy the molle nets? I like having some hanging storage up off the floor. Thanks in advance for your response, much appreciated!
1. Can this be built based on a 144 body without adventurewagon kit? 2. In addition to the brackets on both sides, I noticed that some boxes are also needed at the bottom to support it. Will this affect the installation of the electrical system and water system? 3. Is there a dealer in the Los Angeles area that supports installation?
Yes, you can use it at a 1:44 without adventure wagon kit Those boxes are just storing my electrical and my toolbox. So you don’t need anything underneath the bed it’s up to you. Working on the right person in that market to represent us, let me know if you have any ideas.
I really like this, but I don't really know why? It is cool to see and have all that space, but what can you really do with it, and you still have to let it down when you want to sleep. I mean, it is great and looks fantastic/vantastic, but if you fill the under-space with stuff you cannot use that space with the bed raised up. Still, it is so clean and spacious.
I guess the main thing is it gives you options, keeps you versatile. Being able to open it up and move things out easily, go to the lumberyard, move, large items, etc.. Plus, it’s kind of cool to have an open space in your van when you’re traveling a lot. We’ve been on the road with it for 16 months in the last 2 1/2 years.
@@VanMurphyBed Options ... yeah, I hear that. It allow you to get more use out of your van, but no necessarily on a daily or hourly basis. It's a really great design, no denying. I saw one lady who lived in her van doing the opposite, instead of having a bad she had a big adjustable easy chair in the back of her can. I've seen some recliners that would work perfect for that. And you could move it back and forth and rotate it around, and even take it out of the van.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, it is a simple system and leaves you so many options. Currently the system is about $4000 for the queen size bed portion. The bunkbeds are extra option along with the quick change system
Sorry for getting back to you so late. The beds are designed to maximize space. So in order to fold them up, you need to remove the bedding, fold up and lock the bed then on top of the mattresses, you have space to place your bedding without interfering with the mechanism of the bed.
This van happens to be for sale right now if you're interested, it is one of the most versatile vans we've ever seen designed please feel free to contact us if you're interested in any information
We can do a transit van that I can access the ceiling, I don’t know if the passenger vans interior will allow me to install our stud system. We can talk just call.
So 13.5 minutes in, and I must’ve missed the answers to: 1. What is the weight capacity of each side of the bed? and 2. Is the kit available for purchase, or can you only get it from an outfitter? Thanks.
Okay, looked at your website and got the answer to #2. Still confused about maximum weight capacity, since your site says it’s 100 pounds per “deck”; or I’m misunderstanding something. “Under each bed deck you can fasten a quick disconnect saddlebag system that will give you a ton of extra storage. Each deck can carry a 100 pounds and effortlessly open the with the use of gas struts. ”More Space””
There were two big dudes sitting on half of the bed. One of them looked to be 200 lbs or more, out of shape and breathing heavy. So two fatties could share that bed. How much do you weigh? 😬
😂 both were recovering from Covid so that’s where the out of breath part came from. We don’t have a firm weight rating yet but have had about 600lbs bouncing on one side with no issues.
Im sure theyd hold but having those bed panels interlock like an interlocking tote would probably make people feel better about them if not actually providing some structure. Lol
You can use a thicker mattress, probably up to 8 inches, however it will be taller than the sides of the Murphy bed when in the opposition. We just want to be able to use a second bunkbed in it so we go with the latex because it's unbelievably soft and firm at the same time. Not to mention it's a healthy foam
I don’t recall the name of the company, but this is designed for the back of a jeep, you should be able to find it. I think they’re only making it in black now too.
I understand, I’ve been in the Furniture business for over 30 years and I get it. So there are options , first thing is we use medium density 100% latex cushions. Don’t bottom out and you are very comfortable. Second thing is you can use up to a 6 inch mattress, it just doesn’t fold down into bed system it will protrude 8 inches above the deck, so what happens is you can’t use a bunkbed system above it. The main thing is it’s got options.
Your father-in-law didn't come up with that idea. It's called a Murphy bed because some dude named Murphy a long time ago came up with that idea. And your father-in-law and your company certainly is not the first company to be applying that in a van.
You’re right it’s not a new name. But it is a new concept in the designs of Murphy beds. The name helps people look for a folding design for their bed and our patented system shows a new and unique alternative to what’s available in the market.
Interesting comment, it’s less expensive than most bed systems on the market currently and more versatile strong than anything that’s been developed yet Hard to find a system with four Murphy beds in one van And still maintain 48 inches of open aisle space
Best idea in a long time! This is THE solution. Great job!
Thanks for the vote of confidence, we feel like it's gonna be a game changer in the Van industry
Glad you like it!
One thing that keeps me from van life is the need to have a workspace with a large monitor and ergonomic chair. Using one of the chairs in the cab and a small flip up table and laptop doesn't do it for the work I do. I've seen van builds with dedicated desk areas, big monitors and a decent chair, but they also take up a lot of space. It would be cool to see a build like this where, when the bed is flipped up, it turns into a dedicated desk somehow with a mounted widescreen monitor and area for keyboard and mouse. Maybe with a decent chair mechanism on the other half. Work by day, sleep by night, instead of trying to have both dedicated areas taking up room in the van at the same time.
I like the way you're thinking! what about when the bed folded up a table folded out from the backside and the monitor was mounted to the bottom of the deck pad. The nice thing about the system is its versatility, and I know that that could be done on the underside of one of the beds. I just wonder if the other bed would work as a good seat for you depending on the height
The chair is the challenge… a second panel built with a large monitor ( possible curved) and a fold down desk/keyboard segment would take up 4-6” using a secondary cantilever… for the chair a drop in pedestal may be an answer, or a heavy laguna style swivel could be an option.. the seat then becomes the last design hurdle. Modified camp chair that can fold away… 🤷♂️
just adjust the hight so one is the table and the other one is de chair, and place the matrasses any way that feels right and/or the necessary ergonomics on the one that is the chair. the computer can stay under and the screen(s) can fold down from the ceiling, or you can just place them up there and down again when you want make the whole bed, screens aren’t that heavy i think 🙏
I'm thinking of a fold up desk that's mounted underneath one side of the Murphy bed. So put the Murphy bed down on one side leave the other side up and then fold that desk down from that. Should work. Haven't tried it yet but in theory it looks good
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I have watched hundreds of builds. This solves everything! Love it!
Thanks, true it really does a lot for the space in your van
Just Perfect. Simplicity and versatility. My current van. A 1994 Chevy Astro EXT Cargo.
Maybe someday we’ll be able to do those smaller vans, right now we’re concentrating on the sprinter and transit. Thanks for the vote of confidence though.
I think this would be perfect in a wheelchair accessible van camper build. I hope to one day be able to do that.
That's always been my favorite fart for the system it's gonna make a lot of people able to travel with their spouse easily, good call
I was just schematically figuring this out in my head. I opened up UA-cam and behold...this. Thanks!
I'm glad you found it, what are your thoughts anything we can do better besides the video of Course
I love the versatility.
It would be fun to use bottom bunks as sofas and host a party.
Good space for cooking and desk as is, or you could install this system in a shorter van and have bunks, desk, and sofa in the back!
Thanks,
Thanks like all your ideas. Nice thing is lousy to be versatile and creative.
finally, innovation in the van life....wow
thanks for the comment, yeah it’s kind of hard to find something different
thisreally made a difference for us.
Best bed, etc. solution I've seen.
Thanks for the comment, from all of my studies in the last three years of the beds available out there I tend to agree. The system is simple, sturdy, and versatile. I hope to help a lot of people with the system
Awesome stuff. I was planning to toss out the mattress and buy a latex one, but you did it right. Where is the system made and where are the parts sourced from?
Thank you! This system is made and assembled in Michigan.
Nice, I can still use it during the day for deliveries..
Exactly
I have 3 large dogs (all over a 100lbs each). This floor plan is perfect!
That’s true it should be perfect for that. I’m assuming all the dogs get to sleep up there which would be happening in my van
@@VanMurphyBed
You sleep with multiple dogs?
Can we see the tracks up close..what do u use floor and ceiling tracks for..can we get a tour of rest of van to see how the work in fir overall build
Hi and thanks for contacting me. What kind of van are you working on? Have you started anything else on the build part? My email is Ted@VanMurphyBed.com I’ll try to send you over a few pictures of things I think you might want to look at.
I had plans to DIY a similar system for a Transit Trail buildout, though Ford couldn't deliver in 2023 with a 2022 order. I was inspired by the German twin bed layout. Nice to see a design in the US is engineered and made available. Though I wanted a few differences. I wanted it to work in a
I love to see what you're thinking about on paper can you shoot me an email with the drawing, I think it'll work perfectly for what you're describing so far. Good luck on the transit I think that's the right vehicle to be using these days. I actually have one ordered too
Awesome system. Plenty of market potential ... Cheers
Thank you!
What is the width and length of the platform that the mattress sits on when in sleep mode - not including the short piece that it folds up onto when it’s in closed mode? And then what is the width of the platform that it rests on when it is in closed mode.
The lower deck is 23 1/2 inches wide. We leave a 2 inch gap between the two beds. The upper queen is 19 1/2
Overall, I think it’s 63 inches wide, that’s determined by your van basically you’re going wall to wall less the paneling
Amazing innovation. Nice video. Excited to our tour video we did together Ted live on UA-cam soon ;) Congrats!
Thank you! Can’t wait to see it!
What are the dimensions? is the mattress included? How many cantilever brackets are under the bed. In one angle it looked like there were two and in another angle it looked like there were three?
Another good question!
Mattress is your choice. We like the Roam Rest system, but you can use any Foam you’d like.
In the picture, you’re saying the prototype truck, we started off with three studs, but were able to use two with a stiffening bar underneath the board. That lowers the cost and is just stable.
So it looks like because of the curvature of the van the upper bed must be more narrow. What are the dimensions on the upper versus lower beds?
There is a 6 inch difference from lower bed to top bed so we have various ways to compensate for that
I have this in my sprinter long time, I loved!
What part did you have on your Sprinter that you like?
Amazing concept....when/where is it available????
Should be ready to start distribution in 2 months
I have the adventure wagon L-track wall and floor, and this will be a perfect solution for the lower bunk for my kids. Is it compatible with L-track?
our system will work fine with the Adventure wagon LT system. It’s a independent stud that goes in front of the wall that allows you to have four independent bunkbeds or two queen size beds. Everything is adjustable up and down. What area are you contacting us from. Have you worked with a professional Van builder in your area?
Does this work for a ambulance box ?
I would only need a single wall bed.
Should be able to make that happen with a straight stud on the side, will try to work with you
When will you be adding pricing on these?
Contact ted@vanmurphybed.com for pricing.
The basic bed system is about $3500 add the bunkbed another thousand dollars
i like that you use latex
Really cool design.
Thanks it works cool too
Great video and super helpful! Where did you buy the molle nets? I like having some hanging storage up off the floor. Thanks in advance for your response, much appreciated!
Thanks for watching the video, those storage sheds I think we're just off of Amazon. But I do like using the L track hooks from Macs
1. Can this be built based on a 144 body without adventurewagon kit?
2. In addition to the brackets on both sides, I noticed that some boxes are also needed at the bottom to support it. Will this affect the installation of the electrical system and water system?
3. Is there a dealer in the Los Angeles area that supports installation?
Yes, you can use it at a 1:44 without adventure wagon kit
Those boxes are just storing my electrical and my toolbox. So you don’t need anything underneath the bed it’s up to you.
Working on the right person in that market to represent us, let me know if you have any ideas.
Hello felicitations nice kit, where can I buy your kit ? I am in Québec Canada thanks
We’re finding professional builders in that market currently. Have you worked with anybody in that area that you prefer?
I really like this, but I don't really know why? It is cool to see and have all that space, but what can you really do with it, and you still have to let it down when you want to sleep. I mean, it is great and looks fantastic/vantastic, but if you fill the under-space with stuff you cannot use that space with the bed raised up. Still, it is so clean and spacious.
I guess the main thing is it gives you options, keeps you versatile. Being able to open it up and move things out easily, go to the lumberyard, move, large items, etc..
Plus, it’s kind of cool to have an open space in your van when you’re traveling a lot. We’ve been on the road with it for 16 months in the last 2 1/2 years.
@@VanMurphyBed
Options ... yeah, I hear that. It allow you to get more use out of your van, but no necessarily on a daily or hourly basis. It's a really great design, no denying. I saw one lady who lived in her van doing the opposite, instead of having a bad she had a big adjustable easy chair in the back of her can. I've seen some recliners that would work perfect for that. And you could move it back and forth and rotate it around, and even take it out of the van.
Wow. A locking hinge. Crazy.
Crazy, cool, right
Nice job!
Thanks
I like how simple everything looks. How much is it?
Thanks for the comment. Yes, it is a simple system and leaves you so many options. Currently the system is about $4000 for the queen size bed portion. The bunkbeds are extra option along with the quick change system
Why do you have to move the things off of the bed only to stuff them back in? Couldn’t you just leave them on the bed and fold it up?
Sorry for getting back to you so late.
The beds are designed to maximize space. So in order to fold them up, you need to remove the bedding, fold up and lock the bed then on top of the mattresses, you have space to place your bedding without interfering with the mechanism of the bed.
Where can I buy the hardware? Thanks.
Sorry for getting back late, we should be launching in about two months
Hardware will be available for sale from our Michigan location in early spring
any plans for ford transit
Coming soon!
Just did a Ford transit with the system works great
Ford vans will be added very soon I heard
Simple I love this van!
This van happens to be for sale right now if you're interested, it is one of the most versatile vans we've ever seen designed please feel free to contact us if you're interested in any information
Now add a drain in the middle and removable pan and a magmatic shower curtain and you have. 48 X 60 shower.
Great idea, I can show you how we do it and basically just what you said. Our system is designed out of Australia and it works great.
Hey, Rogue Engineer! You do camper vans? I literally stumbled onto this video.
I might be interested. Where are you all located?
Located in Michigan how about you?
Can be built on Ford Transit Passenger Van?
We can do a transit van that I can access the ceiling, I don’t know if the passenger vans interior will allow me to install our stud system. We can talk just call.
@@VanMurphyBed
So 13.5 minutes in, and I must’ve missed the answers to: 1. What is the weight capacity of each side of the bed? and 2. Is the kit available for purchase, or can you only get it from an outfitter? Thanks.
Okay, looked at your website and got the answer to #2. Still confused about maximum weight capacity, since your site says it’s 100 pounds per “deck”; or I’m misunderstanding something.
“Under each bed deck you can fasten a quick disconnect saddlebag system that will give you a ton of extra storage. Each deck can carry a 100 pounds and effortlessly open the with the use of gas struts. ”More Space””
There were two big dudes sitting on half of the bed. One of them looked to be 200 lbs or more, out of shape and breathing heavy. So two fatties could share that bed. How much do you weigh? 😬
😂 both were recovering from Covid so that’s where the out of breath part came from. We don’t have a firm weight rating yet but have had about 600lbs bouncing on one side with no issues.
Where do you evacuate your colon?
We have a dry flush that can be moved around the truck, I'm sure you realize how important that is
Is there a rough estimate for pricing?
Right in the $3500 area
Price is around $3500 for the base queen size double Murphy bed, add another thousand dollars for the second set.
Im sure theyd hold but having those bed panels interlock like an interlocking tote would probably make people feel better about them if not actually providing some structure. Lol
how much do one of these cost
$3500 for the basic to system Murphy bed
Finally, an owner with a brain. 👌
I don’t know if I agree with having a brain, but the system works really great
I couldn’t sleep on 3” mattress with seams. Give me a Happy Jack system with a real mattress. No doubt this will be ideal for some. Peace - John
Have you tried sleeping on a 3” latex mattress? I have a few times and it’s surprisingly comfortable
You can use a thicker mattress, probably up to 8 inches, however it will be taller than the sides of the Murphy bed when in the opposition. We just want to be able to use a second bunkbed in it so we go with the latex because it's unbelievably soft and firm at the same time. Not to mention it's a healthy foam
Who makes the storage bag?
I don’t recall the name of the company, but this is designed for the back of a jeep, you should be able to find it. I think they’re only making it in black now too.
sorry it took so long, it's from right line Gear they do jeep stuff
Love the idea but those mattress are too thin for me.
I understand, I’ve been in the Furniture business for over 30 years and I get it. So there are options , first thing is we use medium density 100% latex cushions. Don’t bottom out and you are very comfortable. Second thing is you can use up to a 6 inch mattress, it just doesn’t fold down into bed system it will protrude 8 inches above the deck, so what happens is you can’t use a bunkbed system above it. The main thing is it’s got options.
Can someone buy the bed system?
Bad system will be available in about 30 days for purchase. Feel free to contact us on any details. Sorry about the late response.
Nice! But roll over couch are better. Because you have this plus a couch.
Interesting, do you have a picture?
When engineer goes rouge?
😉
👍👍super💪
Thanks
Nice job!!!! Available on all 3 ram/ford/mb?
@@fredzuccarelli thanks! We are developing those now.
Cool
Thank you
For a this price plus shipping and the install cost not many potential customers , it’s going to be a flap
We haven't settled firmly on the price yet however it seems to be going Price for similar systems as far as beds go
Great system but this is I was struggling to watch it.
Great comment but I was struggling to read this.
Yeah I understand but it's hard to get a lot of stuff in short video and we did it in one take
Sleep on the floor
We sleep people on every level, even the floor
Crocks?
I'm out. 😂
Your father-in-law didn't come up with that idea. It's called a Murphy bed because some dude named Murphy a long time ago came up with that idea. And your father-in-law and your company certainly is not the first company to be applying that in a van.
You’re right it’s not a new name. But it is a new concept in the designs of Murphy beds. The name helps people look for a folding design for their bed and our patented system shows a new and unique alternative to what’s available in the market.
Imagine masculinity so fragile you can't sleep near another man...
Not the masculinity do, it’s generally gas and snoring
Cheap and they want way to much money
Interesting comment, it’s less expensive than most bed systems on the market currently and more versatile strong than anything that’s been developed yet
Hard to find a system with four Murphy beds in one van
And still maintain 48 inches of open aisle space