No dipstick! No problem?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) New 2025 Ram 1500 truck with the 3.0L twin-turbo I6 Hurricane engines do not have an engine oil dipstick. Here is how to check your oil.
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They just keep finding new ways to keep me from wanting a new truck
I hate most newer vehicles. I'd rather buy an old truck made before 2005 and have it fixed up to like new condition. They seem to be doing everything they can to try to make vehicles less reliable, there is no way I'm trusting a sensor that can screw up to tell me if my vehicle has oil.
First the transmission dipstick and now it's the engine oil !!
I don't believe that I would buy a vehicle without them !!
Planned obsolescence in real time and sight
I prefer a Truck with the Dipstick , both of them !
Agree 100%
The dipsticks are the ones who came up with this terrible idea.
All I can do is laugh. Thank you!
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Such a great comment! Thank you for this
It's a Ram, so Fix It Again Tony..
I was laughing so hard I could barely type this
All fun and games till the sensors break, which they will.
I know plenty of cars 20-25 years old now that have original sensors still working. Sure a few have gone bad but a CEL or similar will tell you that and you just replace it. Recently did a cylinder head temp sensor on my F-150 after a warning came up. $30 and 1 hour later it was working again.
Meh, engine will probably grenade b4 oil change needed..... disposable
@@ALMX5DPolder vehicle sensors on average were less digital and more mechanical causing them to last so much longer and for a brief time I worked in a parts store we sold more sensors for newer vehicles then sensors for older vehicles buy a significant margin also due to the fact that newer vehicles just have more sensors
It’s always a jackass that has never pulled his own dipstick saying this kind of thing.
@@ryanwatkins1821 there are more sensors in a modern vehicle but I don’t believe they are any less reliable than any sensors prior. Mechanical sensors or cables were quite problematic once up in age.
This is a feature that dealers have been waiting for. They can now comfortably charge you for an oil change and not do it.
The sensor would tell you that the oil needs to be changed. It’s not based on mileage, the sensors can tell how much life is actually left in the oil. I have a car that does it now and it’s crazy how long it can go before it says it needs an oil change, but the oil is clean and in good shape even when it says it’s ready. Synthetics are pretty amazing these days.
Based on how many miles since you reset the oil life. So they could in fact lie and just reset without new oil. @@LifeAfterLosing
Yeah I don't like that either need to see if the oil is milky or have anything in it( blown head gasket)
I would agree with that only it’s the other way now with oil pressures being much higher now you will most likely see oil in the cooling system before you see coolant in the oil. Also you will get exhaust gasses in the cooling system before the coolant mixes with oil now too.
@LifeAfterLosing I'm not trying to be mean but you obviously do not work on vehicles . Do not believe all the hype of how long can go without an oil change with synthetic. myself and many other mechanics can tell you the catastrophic failures of many engines from all manufacturers from doing oil changes by oil life monitors. I am a firm believer in synthetic oil but these direct injected engines fully enclosed crankcase ventilation systems end up allowing too many deposits to be built up in various areas with very tight tolerances meaning sensors actuators valves you name it I've seen it you may be a lucky one but there are many that are not my advice never ever go over 5,000 miles on oil changing in a gasoline engine. Then again if you're a person that's just gets a new vehicle every couple years anyways you'll probably be safe.
Cool feature. But why take away the dipstick!? I just want to check the actual condition of my oil once in a while.
Because every manufacturer wants you to take your truck in every time anything happens.
apparently you don't replace the oil, you just buy a new truck! XD
Exactly they won't let you anymore 😮
Good excuse to add more “features” which they can add profit margin to. I hate care companies these days.
It adds extra weight and not worth it so they left it out because less weight means more horsepower
$100,000 and it is missing a dip stick.
180k and so does Porsche. These companies don't want you modifying anything.
@@CJ-Giddyup209🤡 how does that have to do with anything
The dipstick goes in the driver seat on these models.
BMW been doing this for a while too. Pretty soon every manufacturer will do this as a way to cut back on the cost of putting 100s of thousands of dipsticks in their engines each year.
The cheaper the vehicle the more likely it is to have a dipstick
Why not both?
Ikr at least have the dipstick for just in case. I'm not comfortable trusting a sensor that could get gunked up over time and say full when theres no oil.
Both would make sense. So we can't have both
Precisely my thoughts! I'd be ok with both, but I aint never buying a Dodge, but Chevy & Ford better not get baptized into this.
Waiting till you change your oil to find out you been driving on milkshake.. nice
Well then they'll void your warranty and blame you
You still have a filler cap… if it’s a milkshake on the dipstick it’ll be a milkshake there.
Exactly 💯 💯 💯 💯 😮
Thats terrible. I bet the figure out a retro fit after they stop popping engines like crazy.
Keep the reliable dip stick
Something electrical on a Chrysler? What could go wrong??
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Its one thing to delete a dipstick on a luxury status symbol like a BMW, where the owner will never touch anything under the hood and it will be wrapped around a tree or have an exploded engine at 50k miles anyways... but on a pickup truck is a deal breaker
Wrapped around a tree
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BMW lasts way longer than anything ram puts out lmfaoooo
Well since they turned their pickups into status symbols and branding them as "luxury" trucks. Now it all makes sense 🫠
@@muslimadamsandler that would be a close race. Just like mercedes. About the time the warranty expires is when you start shopping for a new vehicle
Boy, Stellantis sure does like fixing things that aren’t broken lol
BMW is doing it too. I don't see why they can't have both.
Oil level, pressure, temperature, and life? This has been a feature on vehicles since like the 1990s... The point of the dipstick isn't just to check the level, but to check the condition of the liquid itself. This is absolutely idiotic of them.
And the union Stellantis guys will say the Europeans are sabotaging the brand... Nah, these clowns have done it to themselves for decades.
Why couldn’t have this feature ANDDD keep the dipstick. It doesn’t take up too much room or anything. They just want to make money for when the feature eventually breaks and you have to get it fixed or play a guessing game with your oil levels
Think of the poor shareholders! Someone figured out they can save on the cost of a dipstick. 🤦♂️
Yeah a dipstick and digital display would be ideal
Same. Corvette has a Dipstick and oil life meter on screen, but Porsche has been Goin with out a dipstick since 2008...
A Chrysler product using an electronic doodad to keep tabs on your engine's lifeblood....nope...that won't ever be an issue
Any of these automakers since 2020, making any of these vehicles, they're all garbage but Ford makes the worst vehicles on the planet. There's no car company with more recalls than them in the last ten years. It's not even close. Shouldn't buy anything newer than 2021 because you are getting a pandemic vehicle.
It's no longer a Chrysler its Stellantis
Bye bye Stellantis 👋
Exactly
I like trucks with no screens. I like to look out the windows as I’m driving.
"so how do you check the oil?"
"thats the neat part! you dont!"
~some dipstick engineer.
Engineers these days are still playing with coloring books and crayons
Bring back the dipsticks please! Simple no fail system.. my transmission does not have a dipstick or a top fill tube and what a freaking hassle to check and adjust fluid level.
I mean its a cool feature, but I NEED a dipstick for when I change the oil...
YOU'RE not supposed to change the oil. You're supposed to pay the dealer to do it.
@the_omg3242 yeah no...I worked as a Ford master tech for some years and anytime I can avoid others from touching my investment I will do so.
Both. We all want both
Proof that modern car manufacturers don't want you fixing your OWN car
Yep so you will be forced to go back and buy a new truck when it finally breaks due to lack of adequate maintenance.
Just bc it doesn't have a dipstick, it doesn't mean you can't change your oil.
Like the addition of the on screen check, but absolutely still want a way to physically confirm
Another automotive engineering solution in search of a problem.
That is by far the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. The digital could have been cool if they kept the dipstick for redundancy.
It doesn't tell me if my oil has glitter in it or if it's turned into a milkshake. Dash readout is nice, but I want my dipstick.
I will not buy a truck that doesn't have 2 dipsticks. One for the oil and one for the transmission. If it's not something I can service in my own driveway it can stay on your lot.
That is about the stupidest idea ever. I won’t buy a vehicle without a dipstick for oil.
We have these on most things in the oil feild the always have issues telling us the level. And they are so inaccurate
It's comforting that Chrysler is known for their impeccable, durable, and sophisticated electrical systems that rarely have issues
Funny, I heard someone say the same thing about Alfa Romeo the other day.
Oh hell naw, nothing replaces a real physical way of checking a fluid
no thanks, give me a 50 cent dipstick, keep the 500 dollar sensor that will fail and detonate the engine because the computer won't recognize that it wasn't getting a good reading
I feel like I am becoming my dad. "It's just another thing that will break." I'd rather have the cost of that feature go into better build quality of other components.
like (and I'm just spitballing here) a stick you could use to check the level and condition of the oil! XD
Absolutely !! Well said !!!
What could go wrong?
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Do you check it when the engine is not running?
That’s actually a great question!
Wow. Just wow. Well I guess I won't be buying one of those, and I was seriously considering one too. Unbelievable. Thanks for the info Andre.
The old way i want to put eyes on the dip stick
Been buying Ram for years... On my third new truck.
No dipstick!? That's it for me... I'll keep my old one
Another thing to go wrong
Yeah if it's like the 3.0 in the Jeep Wagoneer the first or second time you change the oil the oil level sensor will fail and say your engine is overfilled or too low and you have no way to verify it. I am a rental car fleet technician this has been a major issue. Also it's so common the sensor is always backordered.
Why not both? Dumb.
I'll keep my 2014 Ram and continue to change my own oil because i like to do what i want. Not what they want. No dip stick , No More New Ram Trucks for me. Sorry Stellantis or Dodge or who evers Dumb Ass that decided to get rid of the dip stick . Time to buy a CHEVY unless they figure out this mistake !
Reminds me of Apple. They don’t want your hands in the shiny expensive thing you bought.
Nope I will not buy a vehicle that has digital only instrument cluster. They are way too buggy with the way they are now. I'm driving a 2023 truck for work and it has digital only gauges. I've had them completed shut off multiple times while I was driving. They've also completely errored out several times keeping me from starting the truck until I cycle the power a few times. They're garbage don't buy them.
Honestly it would be nice to have both.
You can't have both. If there was a dipstick for a backup, why would you pay to fix the electronic one when it fails?
The Hurricane engines is an abomination
What the heck,no way with no dipstick😅
Right! Let’s take something simple and effective and replace it with something that is complicated and has a potential for failure! Makes sense!🤔
So, did it cost more to implement the new way or have a real oil guage to look at?
Impressive how Ram sucks, Ford sucks, and Chevrolet sucks. Even the (formerly) dependable Japanese brands suck.
Crazy how they all went to ____ at roughly the same time. Can't even blame government regulations for the latest "innovation", this time it's all on the manufacturer. Digital everything, automatic driving, telematic devices that report everything to the manufacturer who sells it to data brokers, unrepairable designs, nanny cams watching you drive, and cheaper build quality every year.
No thanks, I'll just repair ole' faithful.
so how does one refill the oil then?
Oil is rarely filled in the same location as the dipstick/dipstick tube. Most engines have a separate oil fill and dipstick. So, this engine retains the oil fill but eliminates the dipstick. There are some engines that do have a dipstick attached to the oil fill cap though, so the oil is installed and checked at the same place.
@@bullitthead7853I think he meant how do you check the oil level when you're refilling the oil after a change.
First the ATF, now the oil; let's make "everything" more complicated (even though it's not better).
Nope, rather be able to physically check the oil level and inspect it with my own eyes before relying on the sensor, the sensor should be the backup and not the primary way to determine the oil level.
Old school. No question. I can see the level, feel the quality, note the colour, smell for burned products. Want to put a warning light that says oil level low, cool. The rest of the stuff, not trustworthy.
Customer bought this and over filled their oil like 0.5 quart less than 20 k miles. You had to bring it back to dealer to reset your oil over filled level. Good luck on your new pos truck without dip stick or tranmission stick
My oil cooler sprong a leak so coolant was getting in the oil. I was able to visibly see this and replace my oil cooler that was 12 years ago. That would have put that Ram in the junk yard. When my new Rams digital dash would not boot up on negative temp cold days until I was halfway to work I sold it. Digital dashes and climate control not being physical buttons means you cannot do anything when they fail and in Ram's they fail often too. This is needless junk that's truly a gimmic at best and longterm its a trucks death sentence. Nobody thinks this is technology moving in the right direction by way of creating more failures down the road and for me that road was two years.
Changing functions on vehicles to being electronically controlled is something that auto manufacturers probably believe is cool or convenient for the consumer but what they do not think about is the fact that electronics eventually fail. The more electronics the more expensive the fix. Pickups should be reliable and easy to service. They were meant to be a tool for work or play. Manufacturers are leaving this idea now.
That would be a deal breaker for me!! Especially since i like to change my own oil.
Huge Ram guy but I absolutely wont touch one of these. WTF were they thinking smh.
Having owned many high mile cars that burn some oil, you need the dipstick
27 PSI for a new motor @3500 rpm? Seems like it already has low oil pressure issues….
Unfortunately, senior management at the auto maker is out of touch with their customer, so when the design teams get together and try to dream up more stupid stuff to add (or delete), this is what we get.
Another reason why people don't want to buy a new car in 2024 part 420:
Relying on a ram for its electrical components to work is actual insanity
Should have both the digital for daily use but I also like to know with my own eyes
I would prefer to have both a dipstick and a gauge one the inside
And just like that… Ram lost all their mechanic buyers
Need to do the coolant level the same way get rid of the hood body of oil change.
They should have kept the dipstick and added this feature!
Old school. It's not about smell or touch. I want to see level and color
Head gasket leaking mixing oil an water , does it tell you?
Seems to me, premium would allow them to have both. I like the convenience of looking at the dash any time but I still want to be able to check a dipstick to verify.
Why does it seem as though Ram is purposely trying to make certain that the truck fails in every single way possible? 1. Pricing themselves out of the market. 2. Making it harder for the typical consumer/ driver to comprehend their own vehicle by over technologically advancing the vehicle to the point where it is not even functional to the intended purpose for the vehicle. 3. Not listening to their customers actual concerns.
Because it's a French company and they don't understand the American consumer and they never have. When was the last time a French automaker was successful in our market? Never. You're better off with an American or even Japanese manufacturer for a fullsized truck. The French don't have a clue.
Now it's like a German car with American Engineering, sounds like a time bomb.
German engineering is more unreliable than American engineering in modern cars.
But it's actually Italian
@@shroom9033 and French now. Not exactly known for reliability.
Oil level sensor be broken at full haha what a joke
I didn't like it when motorcycles started getting rid of dipsticks. But at least they have sight glasses.
I need 2 see my oil tells me alot visually
No actual oil dipstick? OK, that eliminates me as a potential customer. If the electronic readout goes haywire, I’ll be screwed.
You just KNOW that aftermarket oil pans with built-in dipstick tubes are gonna be popping up for this shit.
Definitely
Old school method please.
Easy. Just buy a Tesla Cybertruck instead!
Dipstick goes between the seat and the steering wheel 😂
I'm guessing you can't change your own oil?
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No dipstick no buy !
Stupidity is ram tuff
i dont trust an electric water temp gauge.... why tf would i trust this
I won't buy a truck without an engine oil dipstick. I'm still not over manufacturers removing the transmission fluid dipstick.
DODGE is junk … !😂
I get that the vast majority of people don't check it any more. (Dumb) but seeing how the oil pressure in the ram engien is CALCULATED, and not the actual pressure.... I'd like to know if there is actually an oil level sender. I'm guessing it's just a fake gauge to make people feel better. I've been leasing lately, because I don't want to actually own any of this stuff long enough to find out.
Hate it.
What about the design of the level indicator? That horizontal bar starts from the L at 0 and moves to the right to 7. You said Full but the level is 0. This seems completely opposite, poor User Interface design that hinders understanding. Are you supposed to pay attention to the not-indicated "black" background color, or the bright red bar? For example light up the measured oil level in blue perhaps. If the lack of oil needs to be a color, consider a gradient of green, yellow, red. And assign a number to it, so that we can take a specific reading. How about a special odo for tracking miles since the last oil change?
Thanks for listening.
Nope
I like the old school prices of trucks.
Nothing new, I have that on my 2010 Jaguar XF. Like everything electronic the digital gauge might break therefore the dipstick is more reliable.
Electronics can fail but these days it is unusual. I personally like everything about the 2025 Ram 1500s. The interior is very comfortable, the ride is smooth, it is quiet inside and out, and the power is amazing out of this inline 6!!! SST :)
Straight Six Turbo!!!!!!!!!!:) The new way to check your oil!, I take it as one less thing to worry about because the computer is doing it all for me.:)
Why not both? I don’t see why we can’t just include a dipstick. There’s plenty of room for one and we can even have the digital display best of both worlds.
"hey, let's replace this $.90 dipstick with a $1300 electronic gauge that will fail in the first 3 years to justify charging $100,000 for a truck. "
I had an Audi that you checked the oil with the computer… I was like “what if that malfunctions?” … well don’t you know it, at 30,000 miles I had to replace the thing that checks the oil. That car turned out to be a POS, I sold it to Carmax at 50,000 miles…. I’ll never buy another car that doesn’t have an oil and transmission dipstick
i dont know about touching and smelling the oil....thats kinda weird.... i welcome a digital oil level gauge.....but not at the expense of losing the manual one
Sensors never go bad 🙄 If I can't check the oil myself, I'm not buying that vehicle. It's like Ram forgot who their customer base is.
Yeah the feature is cool but all they had to do is leave the dipstick so you could do both, it couldn’t cost that much for a dipstick, as far as doing it for cost savings as others have stated, oh wait they may have other motives though huh?