The 50 Beowulf budget build, and the fix for all the jamming issues
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Don't listen to the critics, the Beowulf can be reliable and fun!!
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I Really Really enjoyed this video on the 50 Beowulf very Informative and funny. He made me happy to have a 50 Beowulf. This video needs a lot more views because other 50 Beowulf review videos sux but I watched this video all the way through and wanted to see more. Thanks TIM💯‼
Thank you , glad you enjoyed it! I'll be doing more soon, between the ammo shortage and work, its been a rough summer for me time wise. Thanks again for the kind words!
Good video. I completed my build and test fed rounds and had both feeding and extracting issues. Casings were getting marred up really bad too. I replaced standard carbine buffer spring with an HD spring and then got a 50 beo magazine. The spring helped quite a bit. The 50 beo mag was terrible. P-mags worked better. The finishing touch as was taking the small hobby file to the extractor and then buffing as you mentioned. Worked great. Feeds excellent. Thanks for the tip!
What did you use to mill the upper receiver?
Thanks for the video. Your advice on modifying the extractor was exactly what I needed to get my sons 50B running like a top.
Thanks....glad it helped!
I'm using Underwood ammo 12.7x42 ammo with a 6.5mm base instead of 7.62mm. 9/9 shots, failure to cycle & eject. Currently running a 4.3oz buffer & spring. Thanks for pointing out that ejector claw issue. I'll be revisiting my local gunsmith soon.
Like I said, it might not cure every issue, but it is defiantly something to check. Let me know how it goes!
Alright class.... I need y'all to pay attention to this.... Especially from 18:45 until 24:50..... Very well done research and application.
Thank you!
Nice Handgrip! I have the same one one my 8.6 blackout. Wanting to get another for my Wulf
I got that same pistol grip on my VEPR-12
the Bear Creek Armory side charging 12.7x42MM (.50 Beowulf) is priced fairly and works really good. Use Alexander Arms 50 Beowulf mags and it will run flawlessly
I just got the Side charging BC 12.7x 42 (.50 Beowulf) and I am using the Alexander Arms Mags made for it and I am still having jamming and feed issues. It ejects fine but the next round gets pinned between the bolt and the feed ramp. It is like it is short stroking. I still need to play more with different buffers and springs and I think that may fix it. Nor sure the extractor is the issue in my case. the shells eject every time at about 4 o'clock as they should. It just does not always allow the next round to enter the chamber.
@@matttomlinson342 try the followers that chamber tactical makes they are single stack design whereas the Alexander mags still use a 5.56 double stack follower for some reason. Might need more gas too.
@@matttomlinson342 Just shot mine today with the exact same issue. H2 buffer and matching spring. Ejects great but jams up feeding the next round. Almost seemed as if it didn't have enough force to send the next round fully home. Just ordered a heavy spring to try.
I have a side charging bca um.50 beo upper on a palmetto lower for my girl and it hates the Alexander Arma mags...no issues at all with just regular pmags though
@@brianforque4761 the metal ones? thats very surprising.
Awesome,I can't wait to give this method a try!thanks!
I love the being bored and run to the front door for the magic package ...... first time I have seen it on video, I have done it this week though
Nice!!! Just did my first build from scratch, 7.5” 556 and now I’m addicted lol. This will be my next build and I’m glad I stumbled upon your video, especially with the info about the extractor.
Thanks....not all have this problem, but it's something to watch for if you have any issues.
I just built my 50 Beowulf and the only issue ive had is from the ammo, the gun itself works perfectly. I got my stripped upper receiver from Aero Precision and its actually a decently cheap upper for the cost. Its the Aero Precision XL stripped upper receiver.
@@ILik3PH0T0 Aero make quality stuff.....who's bolt did you get?
Dont know why u wouldnt just get 1 from "Bear Creek". 0 problems only thing I did {theirs works fine} got a suppressor like ur's for about $35. So with the dealer shipping, tax and sup. about $425. Then got a "Lee" reload die for $40 and 2 boxes of ammo.40 rounds $25 a box from "Midway USA" $15 hazmat. So my fav. lower is my "Aero Per." Only thing that sucked about that is my"BAD" lever wont work. So I can only use it on my lowers without. Something else Bear Creek offers is side or top eject. Thanks for ur vid. Rock On!
Not sure bear creek was offering them back when I built this, or at least didn't notice it.
Thanks a lot for this tip I haven’t shot my Baywolf in like a year it did have a couple of issues like that but I think it was working out but it started to rain so I didn’t get to finish shooting it and it’s been sitting a year so if it’s does this at least I know the first thing to look forward to in fixing it I might have to have somebody take that apart for me because I’m my hands aren’t is good as they used to be working on really small stuff but at least I know the first thing to check thanks again and my upper is all Alexander arms upper
👏👏👏👏 now that is the type of great,, no no no,, EXCEPTIONAL information that is appreciated! I ran across this video looking for the effective hunting range for this round or rifle type and read The heading and just thought this might be useful. So I'm going to thank you for those that you helped and me in the event that I can get a hold of one. THANK YOU
Thank you very much. I don't sugar coat things, if something doesn't work, I try to figure out why and share that with anyone else having an issue. Again, thank you!
@@pewsandbrews I'm almost in the same situation with you with the old lady! 😊So I'm trying to do better research before I buy whatever I'm going to hunt with.. hard to justify all of those guns that are similar
Thanks much I’ll be getting my upper hopefully by weeks end…just needed to find someone got there upper from AR15 Parts
Great intro! I love my Beowulf. Novelty item but it sure works on pumpkins!
Perfect since we are getting into pumpkin pie season!
Terrific! And good timing for my look into building a Beowulf.
Can you put up a parts list under the links? I am going to build this one.
I didn't get super specific with the parts because some people like certain parts or manufactures over others. The barreled upper is from AR15part.com, the rest is personal preference, but I do list the manufactures web sites in the description. Everything but the barreled upper and bolt is the same as any ar15, so you can look around and get what you like the best.
Love the Benny Hill tribute!
Good content great knowledge curve and insight ..BUT .... You need to work on your trigger finger control unless you just don't care about round placement ..... breathe exhale 1 thousand ... ..Squeeze the trigger, target acquired ...lead is expensive brother !!! lol
Great vid, got my parts coming in soon and I am sure this will be handy.
Let me know how it turns out for you!
What's also fun is; if you happen to be in a ban state, standard 5.56 mags are 10 round Beowulf mags.
The standard magazines themselves are banned. Doesn't matter how many round you put in them or what caliber you're shooting.
@@blueeyeddevil1 Not true. Round count is what determines what is banned and what is not banned.
@@StuninRub Not true. Maximum round capacity is what determines what is banned and what is not banned. The number of rounds one has isn't regulated ( if it were, you wouldn't be allowed to own more than one box of ammo), the magazine maximum capacity is. In states like California, 30-round (standard) magazines are banned, period. Mere possession of even an EMPTY such magazine means potential legal consequences (unless the mag has a round limiter, in which case it can hardly be considered "standard"). You can put 5 rounds, 10 rounds, 29 rounds, 0 rounds, or whatever in a standard 30-round magazine in such states and you are still breaking state law because you possess a magazine designed to hold more rounds than what is considered legal. If round count were the metric as you incorrectly contend, then someone with three fully loaded 10-round magazines (round count = 30) or two or more boxes of ammo (round count 40+) would be in the wrong. This is demonstrably not the case.
@@blueeyeddevil1 Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about. The 10 round Beowulf magazine is a 10 round magazine and will not fit more then 10 rounds. It just so happens you can fit 30 rounds of 556 into it.
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Oh, my lower was shared between my .556 and .50. I had both worked on by a gunsmith to polish the feed ramps. Both run flawlessly and will run all day long as fast as you can pull the trigger. .556 was stoner upper and .50 was, i cant remember the mfg... But it is a side charging upper. I since got another lower to keep from having to swap uppers. It should defeat 4a vests. If not, they will wish it had.. Yep. That .50 hits like a truck.
Thanks for the info,very informative 👍
the whole video is great but skip to 19:55 for the fix itself.
Big fun when you get em to run. Mag mod extractor mod zero dollars spent.
Looking forward to it. Hope I'm successful.
Thanks for the tip on jamming fix, I will try that. Currently mine only jams with factory loads. My handloads do not.
Glad to help
Nice work Tim! My BCA upper is in the mail. I'll check that ejector when I get it.
Thanks Paul....Just got a BCA 6.5 grendel a couple weeks ago, and the extractor has defiantly had some work done to it, it's shiny and polished around the claws ( at least on the one I got). Haven't fired it cause I'm waiting for my brass to reload, so I can't comment directly on how well it will work.
I had the same problem with 65 Grendel and it was the same fix
It's amazing how the littlest thing can make all the difference.
.50 Beowulf is plenty practical for me, I mostly do max 100 yard shots on hogs and deer so it'd work like a charm hahaha
Yep, it's a stopper at those ranges for sure. In my state no semi auto's for hunting, so pumpkins and watermelons beware!
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Ohh man didn't know they made charging handles like that!!! That's the one thing I hate about my builds is the marring you get from normal charging handle thx
Same problem and fix my 6.5 Grendel bolt had as well.
I have a Alexander Precision upper with tank brake with 325 penetrator recoil is like a 20 ga birdshot. With the EOTECH with multiplier,5X accurate and quick. Surprisingly lite weight with large barrel huge brake. Not fun for shooter in next lane but a ball to shoot and softer recoil than 308 AR-10.Timney trigger and concrete blocks for targets awesome fun surprise how accurate too. Similar caliber ARs I hear lot of negatives about 50 Beowulf. Think it's heavy bias on what caliber the negative talker owns...lol. Like Chevy vs Ford vs Chevy...lol. Low recoil for a hammer caliber and quarter of the weight of my Barrett 50. Leads to perfect tool for heavy stopping power that's friendly to the shooter. Only down side of you don't reload is in my choice 325 Penetrator is 2024 pricing think I saw about $4.24 a round aka $82.00+ for box of 20 rds. But when shooting a critter it's the best since I gave up shooting 300 gr hollow point in a 458 Winchester Magnum and yes it's still king but recoil is 5 times of Beowulf. This man's video is truthful and very cost smart. Same use and fun as my rifle but I have less recoil, better trigger and with EOTECH, upgrade stock...not better except if you have a fat head like me...wide one. My cost closer 6 or 7 yrs ago approx $ 2250 plus tax little shipping. But I would enjoyed shooting his setup and for hogs, coyotes, medium critter and cars just as much !!! Well Done and awesome invo...in short video without cost of brands I used. I went this route to help out at age 71 to have same trigger pull, rear stock, sights as other ARs I have for 200 yds or less speed shots. Funny 71 and speed. Old horse has less to learn when have the rifle is the same. Don't think I will try Thermal scope by using eye piece instead of Bluetooth w/phone...Thank you for sharing and hope others realize what a good rifle at a bargain you taught anyone to build. Plus I left out cost of the lower...excuse I buy 10 at a time if price and brand is right. So $2450+tax vs equal fun. I still had to assemble upper was complete. Thank you again !!!
I built my .50cal using a JP 6.5 Grendel bolt and I have no issues with ejection.
Good info. I got my BCG as a package deal with the upper, so rather than spend another 80 bucks plus shipping and replacing it with an Alexander Arms bolt, I decided to see if I could find the fix for it. Some people never have this problem, but if you do, this might take care of it with no money spent.
@@pewsandbrews I did have that same problem with my first 6.5 Grendel and had to do the same type of fix. When I found out that the .50 Beowulf was the same .136 bolt I just went ahead and ordered the JP bolt to see if it was as good as everyone claimed it to be and it is. It's a very nice bolt and built well too. I've heard how hard they kick and just decided that I was going to go with the JP do to all the good reviews for reliability and function. It was a $145 after S&H. I think they are cheaper now though.
@@lawrenceholmanjr.5870 Thanks for sharing your experience with that bolt....every bit of info that can help others make an informed decision is appreciated!
@@pewsandbrews Your welcome and I hope this info helps others looking to build a 6.5 Grendel or a .50 Beowulf. The only thing different between them is the mag and barrel. Happy building everyone.
It won't hurt your shoulder you can shoot it one handed and it won't hurt a adjustable stock that is the reason for the buffer spring and buffer is to take up the recoil.
Very true, but the Beowulf uses the same buffer and spring system designed for a 55gr 5.56, so the recoil is noticeably heavier, but not bad at all.
Also one other thing I bought the Alexander upper and I put it on a Adams arms A.R. 15 lower which is a piston system gun not the impingement style but anyway so I have a Alexander arms upper and a Adams arm lower and it’s funny that I bought the same muzzle brake that you put on yours there’s another coincidence but I’m taking mine out tomorrow with my stepfather and hopefully I won’t run into those Issues
Love the intro
Thanks!
good 😊 i thank you sir for the info...
Very good. Thank you.
New sub here. Great presentation!
Great fix ! What kind of stock is that ?
The stock is from Luth AR
awesome video! i shelved my 50 upper in the gun safe after changing the buffer and buffer spring and still having ejection issues.
Give this a try and let me know how it goes for you. Hopefully it will solve your issues like it did with mine.
Thank you for the info
Glad you liked it 👍
Best bet is just going for the specific Beowulf Bolt that AA sells. I just put into a regular carrier and never had these issues.
True, and not everyone has a problem with the aftermarket bolts either, but if you do, this is a quick and east fix to try. Especially if the BCG came with the aftermarket upper.
I have never heard of a muzzle break reducing velocity/power?
Enjoyed the video. I'm in the middle of a 12.7x42 build using a Bear Creek Arsenal 18" barrel, on a Aero Precision XL upper receiver,
I was having an issue deciding which Bolt Carrier assembly to use. BCA said mil spec BCG is good. However they did not state 5.56 or whatever. Their bolts don't list 12.7x42 with any of the Bolts they sell. I've built 5.56, 6.5 Grendel, .458 Socom, 6,5 Creedmoor, .308 and not had an issue finding the proper BCG.
Moving to Alexander Arms, they mention the .136 depth on their bolt. You mentioned the extractor issue in depth which I found informative. I have a spare 6.5 Grendel bolt assembly which has the depth, can I use this? If the extractor issue shows up I'll know what to do. Great info. Thanks
Yes, to my knowledge the grendel bolt and Beowulf bolt are the same. The BGC itself is just the standard.
@@pewsandbrews Just finished checking for a AA extractor, not available nor bolt assembly. They said extractor is different on 6.5 grendel. I will have to check before finished. Thanks for the response.
You brew your own?
@@lezzag1 Yep....full electric set up. Been homebrewing since 1996
@@lezzag1 Humm....same case head, so I would think the extractors would be the same.
I wonder of a 762x39 bolt would work? I bought a full upper from BCA, but I have a 762x39 too. Trying to understand if my 762 bolt can be a back up for beowulf bolt assembly.
@@knjpollard i don't think so. Its a 762x39 bolt, but its ressesed. 13 thou. Deeper than a stock bolt.
Hey, wondering if you could address feed ramp issues in a video. I think that’s where my cycling problems are more than anything. This video was a great help in ejection issues.
What mags are you using? Many times the magazine has been the culprit of feed issues. Polymer mags don't seem to work well because the feed lips expand and let the round sit too high. I've seen guys file a small angle on the front inside of metal mags to stop the case from catching the sharp edge at the front of the mag.
@@pewsandbrews Thanks for the reply. Ejection is not a problem, it's feed. Appears that the round can't quite make it smoothly into the barrel. As for magazines, I've tried Magpul, Hex, .458 SOCOM with .50 follower, Alexander's. You name it, I've tried them all. I'll try grinding a half-moon in one of the metal mags. Any other recommendations?
@@ContraBandido Humm....all those different mags and still not feeding I would have to think possible burrs around the chamber opening, not real common, but with everything you've tried that would be the next place I'd look if you have the means to remove the barrel.
@@pewsandbrews Yes, I've got micro files and can do a Dremel buff afterwards. I'll let you know the results.
@@ContraBandido did u ever figure out the feeding problem. Mine jams on the feed ramp 2
Is it a totaly different BCG? I CANT FIND THE EXTRACTOR ON ALEXANDER ARMS.? IM SAVING YOUR VIDEO SIR .I just got my upper without bcg or charger from Pro2a tactical.
Not the entire bcg, just the bolt. The body and firing pin are standard, so if you have an extra, you can just get a bolt....but if you order the whole bcg, it must state it's for the Beowulf caliber.
I had to get the Actual mags for mine, it would fight to load the first round, then fail to load the last every time.
Mine seems to work fine with the OKay metal mags, not so much the polymer ones. Some guns are picky about mags.
14:53 for some actual action
Is that a .223 follower in the mag?
Yep, standard .223 mag.
Hey Mr. White, good video. Quick question, did you order a BCG with your .50 Beowulf upper or did you order the bolt from somewhere else? I'm currently in the process of making a .50 pistol and trying to finalize my upper cost.
I ordered it with the upper, but you can find just the bolt if you have an extra bcg sitting around.
Is this scope mounted backwards?
Nope, it's a Leupold 1-4 with open sights mounted to the scope.
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Did you make any changes to your magazine? Bought an upper from a builder and they said my feeding issues are magazine related. Do you think I should change my bolt and extractor or do the magazine adjustments?
No i didn't, the only thing I would suggest is make sure to use a good quality METAL mag. The polymer ones flex too much at the fee lips with the big round in it. I've been using the "Sure Feed mags from Okay industries" they are about the best out there. I'd try that first.
Nice still 😁
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What size buffer weight do running with this beast?
Just the standard buffer. It's designed to run with all standard AR15 buffer components
If you read i believe i read that if you are running a rifle length A2 buffer tube and spring you are good to go but if you are running a carbine buffer tube with a collapsible stock they recommend using a H2 buffer i believe. But really it also depends on barrel length and gas system length. There are some really good videos here on UA-cam explaining it all
I use a Bear Creek Arsenal 12.7x42 upper and never had a problem with 325,350, 375 grain Underwood BJHP.
Yep, not everyone has this problem, but I've seen it before and this seems to have solved the issue.
Joe what mags are you using with the BCA upper?
@@stevensheffield2002 PMags. $9.99 locally still. 7 rds of 12.7x42
How’s that thing hanging in I just can’t get jiggy w BCA just low quality but good if u wanna throw something together for a car or truck gun that’ll go boom and have some caliber versatility but wouldn’t rlly trust one w my life especially in 50 pro2a or exotic ar-15 is the best imo
What buffer weight you are using
Standard buffer that came with the stock
The poly mags are complete crap, always have feed issues or rounds popping out of the mag
I use the Okay Industry mags. Probably the best metal mags out there.
50 beowulf is more like m14 recoil. It might kick as much as a 12 guage bird load. Didnt even seem like that much even.
First time I shot mine which has only a flash hider, not a muzzle brake. I was all tensed up cause of all I heard. .... BS
The gun doesn't kick that hard at all.
Yeah...about like a target load 12 Ga. It does have some pop with the 450 grain loads, but not bad.
I 3d printed my own mag followers work flawlessly..anyone needing those services hmu. :
Why? Why would you choke that yummy hitting power down with that tank brake? I dont have any brakes on mine. I want all of that power going down range. Yea, you can feel it when you shoot. But then again, your smile from feeling that power will offset your sore shoulder. Get rid of that tank brake bro. The beowulf was designed to stop everything up to 200 yards. Vehicles, animals, whatever. Everything. Well, except hard armor. No tanks. No personel carriers... Lol...
Muzzle brake doesn't reduce velocity, just felt recoil. The jury is still out on accuracy effects.