Scammers are targeting record collectors - here's what to watch for
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- I am noticing a lot more social media scams targeting record collectors. A new one tricks people into thinking they are buying vinyl from a record store going out of business. Let's dive into this one...
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Unfortunately we need to get videos like this spread as much as possible. Especially to new collectors of all ages.
A good rule is don't buy anything from a facebook link - ever.
Better still, don’t do Facebook! 😂
I hate scammers. Always follow your gut and that old saying “if it sounds too good to be true, then it likely is”.
Yes... very good point.
i love scammers. Fools should be parted from their hard-earned.
The internet has been this way for decades. Anyone who has been shopping on the web for a good amount of time just has to learn scam spotting skills.
It's very simple logic " if it's too good to be true , it usually is a scam "
Absolutely... though they seem to continually get more sophisticated. All it takes is one click on the wrong link...
I never been scsmed.I have a powerful system that I look for in scams that most to all scams use.its to complex to put here but has been working for over 20 yrs.never been scamed.i buy every day from random sites.
I do rwasearches on the sites so on.Rwaddit can be a powerful tool.ykh just have to know how slot bs good and look for paterns.
paused the video so i could go purchase records at 90% off thanks for showing me this great deal.
Haha!
@@Channel33RPM is there a site that values vinyl records like limited picture \colour edition ? ,
There are scammers - mostly from places like Vietnam and Singapore - who are doing similar things with Books as well as those 1Up Arcade home machines.
the only scams i get being a UK citizen, is thinking i'm getting sometimes a new record and the shipping/vat cost more than the record itself! its heartbreaking.
The majority of modern UK society is a series of scams, from the very top down.
Exactly, since Brexit and the explosion of postal companies price gouging on international deliveries, it's a saddening realisation of how thin on the ground choices become..
@@Danthehorse BREXITS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT ITS BEEN EXPENSIVE FOR YEARS BEFORE BREXIT ENDED(WHICH WAS GOOD THING TAKING COUNTRY BACK FROM EUROCRAP PUBLICE SPOKE AGAINST POLITICIANS AND WOKES AND WON )WHEN WE WERE PART OF EUROPE BRITAIN WENT TO DOGS I SAW ALL INDUSTRY GOING ABROAD DURING 70S 80S 90S AS CHEAPER EMPLOYMENT WAGES TOO UK WE HAVE BEEN FLOODED WITH UNWANTED PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE OUTSIDE DONT WANT IN HOTELS 5 STAR TREATMENT DO AS AUSSYS DO OR DO RWANDA BUT MILLIONS DAILY IN SCOTLAND ENGLAND AND WALES OUR TAX PAYING FOR SINGLE MEN NOT FLEEING WAR BUT HERE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE IF ID WAY OUR NAVY FLEET WOULD BE PARKED AT END OF BRITISH WATER MARK AND EMPLOY GROUPS SNIPERS DAY AND NIGHT(WITH NIGHT VISION ETC) ANY DINGHYS SMALL BOATS GET HIGH POWERED SPOTLIGHT AIMED AT THEM LET KNOW BEEN SEEN IF STILL GO AHEAD MEGAPHONE THEN WARNING SHOT IF STILL PERSISTSHOOT DINGHYS SO SINK JUST OFF SHORE AS FRENCH ARE LAUGHING AT BRITAIN AND WE PAY THEM TO POLICE TUNNEL ETC TORYS ARE TRYING TO RUIN AS MUCH BEFORE OUT ON ASSES AS PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THEM RAPING COUNTRY FOR SELFS WHILST POOR STARVE OR FREEZE HOMELESS PEOPLE BRITISH BORN AND EX MILITARY WHO FOUGHT FOR US GET NOTHING YET WE ARE HOUSING ILLEGALS IN 4 AND 5 STAR HOTELS CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME AND CHARITIES SHOULDNT HAVE DIRECTORS ETC MAKING ABSURD WAGE MONEY TO PROPER PLACES THATS WHY NHS A MESS TOO MANY COWBOYS NOT ENOUGH INDIANS IS SAYING I THINK OF BRITAIN CAN BE FIXED BUT WE NEED MAKE STANDAND LET IT BE KNOWN OR CAN ONLY GET WORSE WHY SHOULD AN IMMAGRENT GO TO TOP HOUSING QUEUE DENY ME OR YOU NEW HOUSE AND HOME THEM MOVE BRITISH PEOPLE OUT THE SHITHOLE ESTATES INTO NEW ONES GIVE IMMAGRENTS THE OLD HOMES ITS A ROOF BUT BEING FROM BRITAIN WE GET EVERYTHING LAST AND GET FCKLL FREE AS WE PAY FOR IT OTHER WAYS I GREW UP IN 70S AND WATCHED ALL BUISNESS GO NOW KIDS CAN WORK IN SHOPS NO TRADES APPRENTICESHIPS DEAD END YTS PROB
Works the other way round too when trying to get stuff from the UK into Europe. Brexit was such an own-goal.
Disgusting that Facebook (no surprise) allows these types to buy ads and offers no means to report them.
Facebook doesn’t give a RIP as long as it’s making money for KING ZUK 🎉
That’s why I left fb .
Basically, if all they have is popular titles and barely any obscure titles, then I think it's safe to say it's a scam
Several of these scams show exactly the same records for sale. I knew I had seen one of those record shop photos before - the one in Pittsburgh - I do like looking at overseas record stores - not always to buy, but a lot of the time just to drool over some of the stuff they have in stock!
Glad you got this video out, Frank. More people need to know about these scum. As you so rightly said, some new collectors might fall for this sort of flummery, and be out of pocket, and perhaps put off collecting completely. If something looks too good to be true, then it most definitely will be.
Thank you.
Thanks Brian.
They also have videos on Instagram selling boxsets for silly prices, the last one I saw was beatles mono box set on vinyl for 8.99, hope no one new to records falls for this crap
Oh wow... I haven't seen those. The scammers are, obviously, everywhere... Too bad.
They certainly are people just really need to do research an try not to fall for it... its not all that easy I got caught out years ago buying hendrix stuff that turned out to be fake an that was buying stuff face to face so I'm not saying it's easy just try an be careful...
Thanks for taking the time to post this! I didn't realize you could search images like that. Thanks again, you're doing a great service!
Scammers are involved in everything , I'm an Avid Mountain biker as I often build my own bikes . Scammers are literally creating websites that look legit with slashed prices , people give them credit card info hit enter then nothing happens other than some Hindu scammer getting your credit card number .
That sucks... it's obviously worth their time, which means there are a lot of people out there getting scammed.
These scammers call my house Monday thru Friday all day long (I still have a landline) and I once asked them "Isn't there anything else to do in India besides trying to scam Americans all day?"
Thank you for this. Just last week my phone was bombarded with ads for a "Vinyl Cleaarance Sale" with prices that were too good to be true. I clicked on the three dots to the lower right of the ad and switched to a different page that told me the seller was out of Hong Kong! Buh'bye now! If it sounds too good to be true...
Thanks for the video. Been seeing multiples of these Blowout Record Pricing ads. Like you said, it sucks that people stoop this low and hopefully people that are new to collecting don't fall for these ads. I do the same thing as you, google search the images and then call them out. What is the world coming to??? Keep up the great videos.
Without getting political or choosing a side, I wish our government and law enforcement agencies would take care of these scams. They're too busy fighting amongst themselves instead of serving the public. Those scams, and all the scams targeted at older people are disgusting.
Maybe stop relying on Governments 😂 They already control you enough 😊
Well said, regardless of anyone's political views a foundation of law and order should be a given in any society
They’re too busy using their own scams to worry about the plebs
@@KillianMcBride It's on a much bigger scale than local city police. In the state where I live there is a lot of police presence (speed traps, etc.) yet pletny of crime like burglary and theft. 7 police cruisers show up to arrest a drunk bum, yet the next street over someone's house is getting broken into. Explain that...
Since it affects democrats, republicans and everyone else, this might make for a good bipartisan issue to work on.
What I've seen an increase in is fake individuals in vinyl Facebook trade groups. I see the same photo of vintage 80s metal cropping up in multiple groups, but its from different people each time. Some have messaged them and called them out, ultimately getting blocked for it.
That sucks to hear... they will take advantage any way they can.
Great video Frank. It’s really unfortunate that people who are just trying to enjoy music and their hobby have to navigate all these scumbag people.
Great Vid Frank. Really like the way you took the pictures apart to show where the real store pics were....Gread episode. Thanks for doing this!!!
All the best
Rod
Thanks for the heads-up...greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for helpful and insightful video Frank!! Another great one and excellent for those new to the vinyl collecting game!
Great topic Frank, thanks for this. And also, thanks for your channel, I really dig your videos. Great production and content! You are appreciated. Keep on Spinnin'!!
Thanks - glad you dig the channel. \m/
Great video, Frank, as usual. Ty for making everyone, especially the newbies aware of these scams!
I came across a scammer on discogs and reported them.. unfortunately some people fell for them but i cancelled before paying as i saw shipping was too cheap and they only sold all the lps that were trending at the time.. soon enough many people complained and the user was blocked...
I clicked on an ad in Google very similar... when I clicked a page comes up saying " we dont sell that product" but they had clothes furniture etc.
Good thing you are bringing this out to the public, good informative video about what to watch out for. I do not actively collect records, i have a nice collection i accumulated over the years from fleamarkets and thriftstores. But there are many scam for other collectible stuff as well, like pokemon cards and vintage video games.
There’s a TON of “going out of business scams” going on across all markets. Be skeptical.
Very informative video Frank. Unfortunately in this day and age there are scammers everywhere who obviously only have one desire in life which is to scam people and fool people into parting with their money. When you consider a lot of vinyl can be quite pricey these days I think I would be a bit wary seeing a website selling vinyl like DSOTM for a ridiculously low price and just the very fact that the site you explored said he sold 78 of that same album would definitely set alarm bells ringing for me. I really don't like scammers. Sometimes we have to remember the old saying, if something sounds too good to be true it usually is.
I'm so glad that I collect CDs. They are so uncool right now that you can get good, even rare albums pretty cheap! Vinyl is just too unpredictable & expensive right now.
Thanks for the heads up on the scam !
Hello Frank! Thanks your video on this topic. I really enjoy your videos by the way.
I am finding Facebook will put you in the 'naughty' corner forr posting something inappropriate but they won't crack down on fake retail; ads like the one you pointed out.
Good point - FB should be cracking down on these scammers.
Thanks for doing this episode. I saw scammer selling everything for $2.99
Thanks for covering this topic
Very entertaining and informative
seen the same scam here in the UK. the scary thing is the reach and scale of such a thing. imagine the scammers only need a very tiny percentage of buyers to fall for for it to make them more than worth there while.
I would think facebook would pull this stuff off their website after two years of running those Beatles fake ads I guess not .Thanks Frank 👍👍
Why would Facebook care who pays the adds and to what purpose as long as they get their money. 😁
@@AlexandruBurda It makes them look bad and gives them a bad name they had cracked down on this before .
They're allowing their sure to be used as a platform to commit crime so you'd hope they care...
Damn those scammers..thanks for the info.
Regardless of what you’re buying, anyone shopping online, should only be shopping from reputable sources. In this case, well established record stores with an online presence would be good. Amazon is good it has you backed up discogs, and major distributors are pretty safe bet. Come on people. They’re making so much vinyl that they can’t even keep up with it. If you can’t find what you’re looking for in a safe place then go buy a different record you want from someplace that is safe. ❤
The trouble is finding the safe sellers. A lot wont grade by playtesting, or even answer questions on grading, especially the big sellers. . I've had a run of sending LPs back because of this and its soul destroying.
Thank you so much for letting me know of those record scams I have not fallen into those stupid scammers and I never will either.f it seems like to me one of the things that scammers like to do is they like to present albums or box sets and that they think they are real but are actually not because I think there are fake boxes out there.
I will not phone with any scammers it’s terrible what they’re doing they should not be allowed to do that to scam people especially for people like me who love collecting vinyl records.
Thanks for sharing that website! I just picked up so much new stuff!
Hope you enjoy it! :)
I knew these ads were scams right away because one of the photos they used was a shot of someone shopping in the far corner of the late Vintage Vinyl of Fords, NJ.
Hey mate, just wanted to say from someone who's day job is based around IT Sec, this was a pretty good summary vid of what to look out for in scams - great job.
Thanks for that!
Great job and information !!!
I've seen some of those ads posing to be a QVC closeout on FB with the Beatles, and Stones Collector box sets in vinyl prices close to what you found
Good info, thanks! I did not know I could image search google like you did.
Glad I could help!
I’ve been noticing the “scam ads/listings” a lot more recently. Very disheartening to say the least. I was tempted for about 30 seconds for a GNR “Illusions” boxset for under $10, but knew it had to be a scam. “Too good to be true” came to mind. I also feel bad for the young people, & newbies, just getting into the hobby falling for these scams. I can’t stand a thief…
I hope you can add to this, by going up the scale as you get closer to getting the copy you're satisfied with, hopefully at a decent price. Sometimes it's taken me weeks and weeks searching down titles. It just ain't easy. Thanks.
Thank you! As a vinyl collector I've put so much time, money,and effort into getting something that brings me great joy So when these pieces of crap try to steal money from good and decent folks it cheeses me off so bad. For some people it may be the only thing in their lives that isnt going wrong,so there is a special place in hell for these asswipes.
These remind me of the lame ass ads on UA-cam ( YES YOU UA-cam!!!!!) advertising a 2500 dollar e- bike for 39.99. How is it that Facebook and UA-cam can inspect and shutdown certain folks for having opinions,but they can't police their sites for crooks? If you don't affirm somebody else's political views or kinks you are tar and feathered,but they can't figure out how to stop taking MONEY FOR ADDS SELLING STUFF AT 1% OF ITS COST??????
Ask Pleasant Green to check them out, it will be a good topic for a future video for him while exposing them at the same time and save the Vinyl community from being scammed.
Seen similar on Facebook in UK. Recognised the pictures too. I reported the ad, not seen any like it since...
Good advice. Keep rockN
Scammers most certainly suck! Great PSA on yet another crummy situation. Oi vei 🤦🏻♂️
There's an old adage, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
I've seen lots of scammers at Instagram as well. Brazilian government has been trying to pass a law to make social media responsible for losses as they don't give a cloud whether ads are scams or not. Greetings from Brazil, Frank!
The ones I see the most on Facebook, and always question, are the ones with just the box sets for a crazy low price. I click, and my security usually screams at me that is it a suspect website.
Anybody that thinks Slayer, Metallica, The Clash, etc etc would ever be 90% is a fool. Even if there really was a store going out of business they would just sell their stock to a distributor and get more than these prices. Scammers suck but anyone that falls for this or the obvious Reverb scams, etc has some major problems of their own.
Sadly a lot of scams aimed at gullible collectors are going around these days. Research, research, and more research. Sure, sometimes you can get a crazy score, but often it's out in the wild. Not on the internet.
I actually recognized Jerry's in Pittsburgh. I pass passing through there and Steve Carlson recommended it to me. Great store.
Scammers suck. On the flip side, several years ago a local chain closed, and they kept lowering prices all spring and summer until they closed the final two remaining locations, at which time what was left *was* down about 90% from original price. I spent about 2K at those two stores that year, but I got about $10,000 worth of LPs, Singles, CDs, and box sets. A once in a lifetime opportunity.
I’m be noticed a Beatles box set advertised on facebook several times at ridiculously low prices.
Hey Frank another great video I hear you the scammers or are real piece of work I got hit a couple times thank God I did get my money back but I just
want to tell you I got my new shirts and my glass and I love them and thank you so much and keep on spinning brother 😛🤘
Glad you got the stuff and dig it! Thanks my friend!
I've not seen any but then again. I don't go on FB that much these days
I checked that website, and now it seems they are only selling clothes..... very dubious
I bought so much vinyl back in the 70's and 80's (and still have them), not much I need now. However, to increase my lacking and scarce "Homer and Jethro" collection, I've bought a few of their old original, never reissued LPs from sellers on Discogs, for relatively cheap prices (not much demand for Homer and Jethro these days apparently). Haven't had any issues, yet anyway. One still sealed album had some mold, but a cleaning fixed the issue, and I paid less than $5 for the actual album, there was a couple dollars shipping on top though.
Great video bro
Appreciate it
I was the victim of a scam on the Discogs website. I also saw that cheap record store, I got burned once, and that's all it took. NO ONE, NO STORE, not even a going out of business store would go that far down on records. TRY YOUR CALL AGAIN! BS, ALL BS. Keep rocking brother 🤘
Keep rockin' as well \m/
Happened to me too a while back. Was half asleep, not paying attention, saw the low prices and dropped a few bucks. Realized just after I was probably ripped off. My own damn fault. I know better. Luckily it was only $20.
We had a scammer distributer RPM that ripped off the labels a few years ago. They would get all this product from the record companies and show up at a few of the southern Ontario record shows. They would sell new sealed records for $10-20CDN but not pay the labels. It was great! I remember one Toronto show they were selling Use your Illusion for $5.
Thank You. Prices are a dead give away for this one.
Yes, absolutely.
I've been seeing similar ads on Instagram.
Yes shed light on anything like this good for youbsir
Whenever I see stuff like this, I take a screenshot of the stock picture of what their store looks like when I use Google to find out because if it’s another store like a real store, then put it up somewhere it’ll lead me to the
A real quick question to ask a possible scammer. Ask them to give you the dead wax numbers. Im sure most of them don't know what dead wax is
Yes, I’m aware of all the scams in phony ass all over the place but sometimes you really can’t find a good deal or even a Great One.
A friend of mine bought an original first pressing of Elvis Presley‘s first album for $10 in mint, absolutely mint condition. Sometimes people just don’t know what they have.😊
That Van Halen Zero Demos in the background I consider a scam with what I see people trying to sell that bootleg for at record shows lol
I have actually seen this very ad. When I seen the prices and the clothes for sale too, I knew it was a fake.
There's a Chinese scam claiming they are selling off the left over stock from Bed Bath and Beyond for ridiculously low prices. It's the same type of scam just different merchandise.
Saw one the other day here in the UK. Said the Beatles vinyl mono boxset was about £14 which goes for over a grand.
I always buy in person.
I started collecting records when I was 12 years old. I still have most of the early purchases. There was a thrift shop across from the school, so I started buying records with my lunch money. Mom soon put a stop to that by packing lunch for me. My I'm still collecting. My collection has save a corner of the apartment for me. I was 12 years old in 1973..
I've got 3 providers only, each of them offers different stuff, I keep myself true to them for many years now so I trust them and I kind of got this frienship with each Record Store owner, even as I have never met with two of them.
I never buy of the internet too many crooks on it but thanks for the info video
This is really disgusting. How to ruin a beautiful passion or hobby... or rather attempt to ruin. Hopefully... no one Bites and they go away... for good.
Hey frank, not on topic here but havent seen sherri in awhile, bring her back for some banter. always enjoy. thanks
I will definitely have her on again!
Fotos looked very familiar, and yes I've been to that record store in Fortune Town Mall. It's actually a great record store, but it's located in Bangkok and prices are not exactly dirt cheap...
Almost all record stores that close down sell their stock to one of the many independent record dealers. Ive both done it and seen it done. There is very rarely some 'come one, come all' appeal to the public.
If it’s too good to be true it probably is. First, I always take that in stride. Secondly, I never answer to advertisements on Facebook. In addition, I always see advertisements for Either NFL or NHL jerseys on Facebook, cheap, too good to even think about inquiring about. Use your common sense.
Too Good To Be True ..Beware ⚠️ !
I'm not a record collector or anything but I do have records. Still glad I know about this scam now.
One thing that stood out for me apart from the pricing was when you pulled down the currency converter on their website, and after the major world currencies they listed Afghanistan! How many customers would a record store have from Afghanistan, and would Afghanis even be allowed to order records from the West?
Hmmmm.... good question.
this doesn't stand out really as most internationally operating sites use that mask. ordering from Bandcamp, you can choose Afghanistan, North Korea or Kuwait as your destination and they will adjust shipping fees accordingly
All music is illegal under the Taliban...
I did come across this scam. I knew it was too good to be true, and didn't fall for it.
I have seen a few one said Ashville NC pictures looks like the record bar in Wilmington NC.
There’s a record store in Asheville?
I am a seasoned record collector and at 58 years old and having been collecting for over 40 years, I like to think I can spot when something sounds to good to be true, because usually it is.
But you still have to be careful and if you are not sure do some research before you part with your money, because these scammers will try all the tricks in the book to reel people in with their unbelievably good deals.
Well said.
sean i was given a boxx of records from a relative who died that i didnt ask foor or expect BUT as i looked through my Aunt was BIG Beatles fan so i looked out all diff beatles albums and they turned out to be originals 1st pressings from 60s and i also have 2 sgt peppers lonely hearts club band albums normal 1st edition and a picture disc of sgt peppers the pic is one from normal album when fold out with all the famous ppls heads on both sides do you know year of pressing as doubt its of same time i thought pic discs were 70s 80snot 60s correct me if wrong as unsure i also have rare uk punk,ska.reggae. too be looked out and pile pic disks to catalouge im told worth lots money i cant even play as no record player im buying a technics and going to record before sale
@brian3174 Hi, the Beatles first pressings could be worth some money
, depending on the titles and condition.
The Sgt Pepper pic disc sounds like a limited edition 50th anniversary pressing from 2017 and as for the rest of the collection you can check catalogue numbers on one of the databases online and i think Discogs has a catalogue database where you can check out old vinyl catalogue numbers to get some idea of value, or can take them to a local record store and they maybe able to give you some information.
Hope this helps you out.
Kind regards Sean.
Hey frank
i have seen these too my friend. i dont fall for them. and i agree they do look like a store and stuff. i agree with all your points my friend. Yes i clued in and figured its a scam. great video bro.
ps
I do not and i stress do not fall for scammers
your friend
and fellow canadian eh
Mike m
If it seems too good to be true, it is. I just got scammed on a bike shed. CIBC looked into it and refunded my money. Only problem was I lost about $3 on the exchange rate. $54 for a bike shed, I should know better!
Great Vid Frank.
I am a record dealer and get these fake record shop ads daily on facebook but Fb wont even let you report them, FB are as bad as these scammers if not worse!
This is why you only deal in cash and in person. Yes, obviously it’s not always feasible.
It isn't just vinyl. Just about every ad on facebook is a fake ripoff. Meta should be fined for this.
The old adage remains true as ever: “if it seems too good to be true…”
If a bricks and mortar shop closes they don't sell of all their stock at a massive discount, as used to happen. It all goes online and people resell it. Small shops and yard sales are where you can grab a bargain, pople aren't giving stuff away, especially on Facebook.
Prices like that may seem ridiculous, but I have found many high quality records extremely underpriced. Examples: The Shining soundtrack $5, John Coltrane Giant Steps $4, Reggae George Mix-Up $2, Rush Hemispheres red vinyl $4.50. Most were at estate sales and online estate auctions, sometimes Facebook marketplace.
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