Early Accounts of Drummer Boy Johnny Clem

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2023
  • John Lincoln "Johnny" Clem (1851-1937) gained fame at age 12 for his battlefield courage. Today he remains one of the Civil War's most enduring figures after a military career that ended with his retirement as a brigadier general in 1915. Seeking to learn more about his origin story, I found three early accounts dating from the Civil War from individuals who claimed to have met him.
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  • @mamieturner5133
    @mamieturner5133 10 місяців тому +8

    My Great Grandfather Porter Frierson was a Drummer boy 10 - 12 years old. I don't have a photo

  • @dresqueda
    @dresqueda 11 місяців тому +6

    I love his bravado in telling about himself. He was certainly a brave young person!

  • @ConsiderationFarm
    @ConsiderationFarm 11 місяців тому +9

    Great story. I love how he was just a little kid but he "used to drink and swear."

    • @MichaelSmith-ct1xl
      @MichaelSmith-ct1xl 11 місяців тому

      🤣

    • @kristiskinner8542
      @kristiskinner8542 11 місяців тому

      Well kids havent always been over sheltered & over coddled in the extreme ways many are nowdays. Some so much so that they have a false sense of reality completely

    • @ConsiderationFarm
      @ConsiderationFarm 11 місяців тому

      @@kristiskinner8542 It's the computers. They lead to mush brain in us all. Tech has been designed to destroy reality.

  • @yisroelkatz-xj6pq
    @yisroelkatz-xj6pq 11 місяців тому +6

    Thank you Ron for this very famous story!

  • @FuzzyWuzzy75
    @FuzzyWuzzy75 11 місяців тому +9

    I had never heard of Johnny Clem before this posting. Thank you once again Mr. Coddington for another fascinating story.
    That kid was more of a man at 10-12 than most of us will ever be!

  • @loarnotoole36
    @loarnotoole36 11 місяців тому +5

    Brilliant history account of young Johnny Clem....✌👍💥

  • @MichaelSmith-990
    @MichaelSmith-990 11 місяців тому +4

    Great story. Very interesting and may he Rip.

  • @richardliles4415
    @richardliles4415 11 місяців тому +4

    Good story. Thank you.

  • @susanschaffner4422
    @susanschaffner4422 11 місяців тому +4

    Great story no matter the time. Thank you.

  • @scotv5099
    @scotv5099 11 місяців тому +4

    I went to Johnny Clem elementary!

  • @TheKonartest
    @TheKonartest 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for sharing some of my family history! Great info

  • @peterschief9778
    @peterschief9778 11 місяців тому +7

    As a kid I watched the Disney Johnny Shiloh movie and remember it fondly. Thanx

    • @yisroelkatz-xj6pq
      @yisroelkatz-xj6pq 11 місяців тому +3

      I also remember Disney's Johnny Shiloh, it was a great movie!

  • @MarkGolding-vs8ew
    @MarkGolding-vs8ew Місяць тому

    I have been interested in Johnny Clem's story since I was not much older than he was during the war. I had already read General Rosencran's account but the other two were new to me. Most accounts from during the war say that the rebel Johnny shot was killed, but Clem's own article decades later says he later learned the rebel survived. And I once found an account that when Clem was a lt. in the army he met the rebel he had shot, who was a lawyer at Brownsville, Texas.
    I note that General Wheeler's raid where Johnny was captured was a big raid, and the wagon trained he captured and burned had about 800 wagons.
    I also note at the Battle of Corinth in 1862 a rebel colonel actually entered battery Robinette before being killed. One account says he was shot many times, another that he was shot by a drummer boy. I also note there is a story about drummer boy Robert Henry Hendershot shooting a rebel colonel, although Hendershot was not the most truthful drummr boy.
    Geernal Rosencrans might have been wrong about Johnny being the youngest soldier in the army of the Cumberland at the time, although Johnny was probably the smallest. Although General Rosecrans said Johnny had corporal's stripes but all his photos from the war have sergeant's chevrons, and it is said he was promoted to lance sergeant. And my copy of his military service records say that Johnny was promoted to Lance Sergeant by order of General Thomas on September 20, 1863, a date when General Thomas was very busy.
    Johnny was offiically enlisted in the 23rd Michigan in about April or May 1863. He was described as 12 years old although that was a few months before his birthday, and 4 feet inches blank tall. His account says he was the 23rd Michigan on a probationary statues before being enlisted. It was formed on September 13, 1862, which is about the earliest possible date for his unofficial service with them. Your accounts quite him saying he moreor less served for about 2 years before Dec 1863.-Jan 1864, or since about Dec. 1861 to Jan. 1862. A number of accounts say he ran away from home in the spring of 1861 to Join the army. And if he did leavehome then it is unknown where he was for about two years.

  • @hubstead1
    @hubstead1 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail
      @lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail  11 місяців тому +1

      Many thanks! I appreciate your support of the Research Trail and stories of the Civil War generation.

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq 3 дні тому +1

    Great story. Curious though if anyone besides him ever confirmed this story? A lot of chaos in war so even if no one else witnessed it, still might have happened.

    • @lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail
      @lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail  3 дні тому

      The accounts I've read vary slightly in the details. But the common theme is that he shot a Confederate officer.

  • @gregdavis19
    @gregdavis19 11 місяців тому +2

    I’d say the last story was closer to accuracy. I didn’t say accurate just closer.

  • @ibkristykat
    @ibkristykat 7 місяців тому

    Were any movies made about lil Johnny?

  • @steveshapiro326
    @steveshapiro326 4 дні тому

    Johnny's parents were German immigrants to Ohio. He may have been bilingual. Unfortunately he didn't have the opportunity to attend school regularly. Nonetheless he was extremely smart and successful throughout his life.

  • @vernabryant2894
    @vernabryant2894 11 місяців тому +1

    I wonder why his parents let him do this.Where was his parents?

    • @fiddlemusik
      @fiddlemusik 10 місяців тому

      He was an orphan.

    • @steveshapiro326
      @steveshapiro326 4 дні тому

      @@fiddlemusik His mother was killed in a train wreck August, 1861. His father did not want him to be in the Army. Johnny apparently ran off against the father's wishes.