I miss how sims 2 had relationship percentages different for each sims. For example, you could be Cassandra who is deeply I love with Don, but Don is only slightly romantically interested in her. Whereas the sims 3 and 4 make it so if one sims is 100% interested romantically in the other, they both are at the same romance level. I like having storylines of one sims crushing while the other is not interested at all.
CrazyLazyT yes oh my gosh!! i love ts4 but please bring this back! i have a storyline where my sim has a huge crush on someone and it’s actually mutually reciprocated but like they dont know about each other?? just aa pls ea
I agree 100% To me, the Sims 4 is really lacking in the drama department which was one of my favorite aspects of the Sims 2. Sometimes i feel as if the sims team is trying to water down the game.
They're not *trying* , they've already done it pretty aggressively. It's very easy to tell that TS2 is an exceptionally well designed video game made by smart developers who respect their player's time and intelligence. Meanwhile hop over to TS4 and you've got "haha he mad so he poopoo mad XD"
I’m not trying to make excuses for the Sims team but I feel like this game was rushed by EA so the team missed out on so many little details that the previous games had. But I feel like the way the game is now and how it’s improved so much from the beginning we will probably get story progression eventually.
@@corey9137 the game was rushed, they'd been planning for it to be online and after the failure of drm simcity all the work for that was scrapped and they had to rush to flesh out the barebones they had for the rest of the game 🤷🏻♀️ it's why the relationships/family stories in ts4 are bio stories only, why the map was plain white, why there was no pools, ghosts or tots on release. So much effort and resources were put into an unused online multiplayer functionality but ea wouldn't push back dates for their devs to make a good product, just get it out and start working on dlc for more coin
This is almost definitely me reading too much into it but in the womaniser video people spin around and jump to change clothes like in the sims and at the end of the video Britney flips a sheet over the womaniser and he disappears... almost like he was teleported 😂 Did EA get the sims 3 story line from that music video?
Sims 2 was like the best soap opera never filmed: Everyone's sneaking around behind everyone else's backs, aliens, disappearances, and enough family drama to kill a cow.
Half the reason I can’t play the sims 4 for any long period of time is the lack of storyline and story progression. It gets so boring. Even though the sims 3 lags and graphics aren’t great I still play it and enjoy it more than the sims 4.
cait I recently lost my sims 4 save file so had to start a new one and had forgotten how completely boring all the worlds and starter sims are. Barely gotten round to actually playing because I'm just remaking the starter sims and adding in my own with actual relationships and story
@@kate1361 I'm Doing That Now. I Recently Got The Sims 4 And Ngl, I Prefer Sims 4 Over Sims 3 (Haven't Played Sims 2 Or 1 Yet But Sims 2 Seems Dope) But Sims 4 Really Lacks Stories. I Deleted All Of The Other Households Sims And Made New Ones And I'm Making My Own Story With Thoses Sims.
@@kate1361 You can't even play the starter sims without having to create your own. That's the beauty of sims 2 and 3 -- you get to choose families you want to play with.
The first sim I ever played was Don. I made him have a party and after everyone left there was trash everywhere including an empty chip bag in front of the fridge. I didn’t know how to move the camera angle so I didn’t know there was something blocking the fridge and he died of hunger.... because of an empty chip bag lol oops
Riley Chiz this is amazing. I think the most dramatic thing about my first sims family in sims 2 was that I didn’t know kids and teens had to do homework so they always had Fs at school lmao
I didn't know Sims were dumb at the time so I thought just playing with the teen of the family would work fine. The whole family died of hunger, in front of a grill (except the teen I was exclusively controlling, of course) 😂
Fort time I ever played the sims (it was the sims 1), I’d forgotten the rosebud cheat but tried to build a large house. Then run out of money whilst my only furnishings were a kitchen. But they couldn’t eat because of lack of funds. So tried to give the parents jobs but they were too depressed. The dad died, then everyone else. Luckily I didn’t save and went back with the money cheat
I miss that about Sims 3. It felt like I was entering a town and learning the people and their drama, but in Sims 4, it's like the whole town was empty before you created a sim and jumped in. It's a little frustrating
Ekhem storylines were missing in sims 3 too. They were the mostly worked out in sims 2 and they started losing interest in developing stories in sims 3
i feel like they did better in the beginning of sims 3 (sunset valley has a decent bit of backstory, not as much as any sims 2, but still a good bit) and it progressively got sloppier and a lot less story oriented through the expansions and towns. then you see them pretty much ditch the idea with the sims 4.
I really hate how The Sims 4 has no storyline at all, we get that "it's another timeline" but no one knows anyone besides their own households, Sims don't have jobs and the story progression is shit, if you don't have mccc nothing happens in the game.
I mean it's not that tedious for EA to make relationships as its literally the game developers jobs to make a game,,,, so you'd think they'd actually like,, do that
And from when they made the game(when death cheats were active) it woulda been really easy to set up their storylines cause they have cheats for relationships, deaths, careers etc, and so much more tuning abilities normal consumers don't get access to. They got away with being lazy and carried on so each new pack households stories are shallow for every new and returning families they add 🤷🏻♀️
They're too focused on selling the shambles it already is to new players instead of fixing genuine problems and making the game better- the brief summaries and backstories of the characters aren't even reflected in their real relationships, which is what annoys me most. Why bother writing backstories at all if they don't mean anything in gameplay?
Bffs: Not Bffs Don and Katrina’s romance: nonexistent Eliza and Bob’s crumbling marriage: Just Fine. Sergio and Siobhan’s relationship: only exists if you activate a paragon meeting. I’m hoping it’s just a coding issue, but like why can the Sims 2 be more in depth than a game made 10 years late?
@@queenkatara7861 also -Karoke households Miko is meant to crush on her roommate, non-existant. -Villarreal and Kim/Spencer fam has a missing mother figure, mentioned in bio no where in tree -Johnny Zest disowned by the Landgraabs, not in any way related in game and don't even know each other -Landgraabs opposing careers could cause tension, marriage is default from CAS -bbfs household meant to have a love triangle, nothing -baily-moon, Octavia is meant to be the brains behind Thornes music career but she doesn't have a single skill in anything musical. - vampire fams (vlad and the vatore siblings) are meant to not get along cause their culinary tastes, don't even know each other at the start (and vampires trailers literally shows Vlad turning Lilith) And so much more 🙄
Caity Trina I knew I was forgetting some big ones. I can forgive them for not adding crushes because there currently isn’t a system for it (we really need one), but Johnny not being related to the landgraabs is so stupid. Like Johnny could potentially marry his family members and that’s just plain gross. 🤢
I had one of my sims have an accidental pregnancy with don, and they didn’t stay together (obviously) but he would come around all the time to feed the kids, push them on the swings, and just hung out with them on his own accord :’)
I would really love to see some story lines in TS4 because I love adding a sim to my family and then realising they love to play the piano and also have the Fengs as enemies like that would be so cool
catbrainz i made my sim as an evol politician and made victor feng divorced his wife and i realized feng is an evil politician as well so we're both now evil politicians
I started playing from TS1. I was literally one of the first children to ever play it because my dad was part of the British testing team for it. Been an addict ever since. Bob and Betty Newbie will always be my favourite 😍
The producer of Sims actually said they lost Bella’s file from Sims 2 so that’s why her storyline is very weird. It was reveled in the EA Sims podcast.
in my save file i went in & edited ALL the premades' relationships, careers, skills, etc. with ui cheats to make them consistent & it only took me like an hour to do, also yeeted katrina caliente right out of there bc she is a FRAUD! I do think EA has gotten better with premades, i really enjoy the strangerville & sulani townies, but it's a shame that the like, iconic premades were so bare-bones - also can we talk about how ea WHITEWASHED dina, nina, don, bella, AND cassandra?? in the sims 2, their skintones are the second-to-farkest, but in sims 4 they're suddenly pale?? EH???? sorry for ranting afkkdsk i'm just very passionate about these sims which is why i LOVE these videos! maybe you could do a video on the drama in veronaville? bc there's some real tea to be spilled there
xander omg yes! i had to edit everyone’s relationships and skills, boot katrina and darken all their skin tones! i don’t get why it’s so hard for them to be consistent.
WHY WITH THE SKINTONES. WHY. WHYYYYYY. It was so unnecessary. It kinda just seems like they were like "well the rest of the continuity is fucked. What's the point?"
Do you have to go into each household to change their relationships etc with mc? Have you thought about uploading your mc edited save... for the lazy and inept like me 😁 xx
The Calienete's in Sims 4, they look terrible, and why they have Don live with them and their 'Mum' Katrina is beyond me, really weird. Love these vids
I played Sims 2 after Sims 3 and when I first went into the pre-made sims households I was mindblown by the detail of their relationships. There was so much to discover and with every Sim you learned something new, it was amazing.
I was a major loser and played with the Capps and the Montys in Veronaville in Sims 2 cuz I’m a sucker for a Shakespeare reference lol those fams would be a cool video idea maybe?
It just feels like the love for the Sims has completely gone, the lack of consistency in storylines, the lack of interaction with coworkers and fellow students, the lack of dramaaaaa. Its so bland now, I hate having to make all of the drama myself. One of my favourite moments in the Sims 3 was my sim getting married and then discovering (when he finally moved into my household) that her new husband was the boyfriend of her best friend and her friend was expecting his baby! It was wild! There's no surprise anymore, no pizazz!
I really think the developers were in a rush to put out sims 4, if you really think about it the game came out missing soo many iconic sims stuff, toddlers, pools etc that they later patched in, if they took their time the game could of came out with all those things already in it, so its no surprise the characters are underdeveloped.
1-3 had such great stories and pre made relationships set up for characters. 4 is bland and part of the reason is that EA didn’t care to set anything up for anyone. Sims have made it into adulthood without ever making a friend? Really EA?
Remember the dev team is good and capable but it's the managers at ea who set their deadlines and ultimately choose what goes into pack. Less fleshed packs means faster turn out for packs means more dolla. Devs = good, ea management = bad
Could you do a sims 2 save file on the sims 4?? Like with all the relationships etc already set up meaning that new players could experience the golden era of the sims!
If you'd like to try mine, I've made one that i use as my new game base file, its on the sims forums forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/955988/the-sims-4-sims-2-save-file
I love this series so much! Though it's always so sad and disappointing when you get to the storylines in sims 4 😒 I wish they would've done a better job there
I still think it is crazy that I never knew sims had storylines. I played Sims 2 but I still only ever created my own sims and locked them in pools 🤷🏼♀️
I love how in depth the stories of Sims 2 were so deep and so interesting. They weren't isolated, they felt like the spanned through the entire game and felt like they actually mattered. Sims 3 was still pretty good, but with the Sims 4 we lost all of that. Nothing is interconnected, no one has any real story, they just exist. There's almost no drive to play townies. I loved playing Townies in 1-3 but 4 I don't think I have once, I'd rather have my own story with a sim I created then have to create one/flesh one out for a sim I didn't. Which sucks because so many of mechanics in Sims 4 make such an improvement and make me really enjoy the gameplay aspect, but I just never bother with townies because they just feel like stock characters.
Not related but I was making a sims family and I spent 2.5 hours doing so and I went to get a snack and came back to see my little brother had turned my computer off and I wasted 2.5 hours to receive non of my hard work 😓
Grilled_Grace _ we’ve all been there. Has happened to me several times... it sucks but sometimes starting over gives you a chance to start something better. I’m sorry that happened
RS D I had that happen when I was younger as well and I didn’t take it well at all back then. I would throw fits lol. Now when that happens I just slowly turn off my computer and I don’t play the sims for at least a day or two. 😂 I need time to mentally cool off before I start fresh.
This is totally unrelated to this video, but I wanted to THANK YOU SO MUCH for your world save file!!! I'm gonna watch some of your sims 4 playthroughs for tips, as I am HELLA new to the sims. I've been playing for like 2 weeks... and world management, using the MCCC, figuring out quality CC and knowing alpha and MM, and ALL THE THINGS are really daunting for a virgin player like me. Your world save is a godsend!! That amazing gift earned you a subscriber. Thank you again, Plumbella 🥰
I played sims 2 occasionally on the PlayStation when i was really young so I can’t really remember much of that BUT I played sims 3 for ages and finally gave in and moved to sims 4 in 2016. I haven’t played sims 3 since then and these videos just make me want to go back and play it
In my game I'm playing Don actually went through with the wedding to Cassandra even though I didn't change their relationship at all?? Literally feel like I witnessed a miracle
I mean i love TS2 i just feel like they did such a great job like they had a fire in the company during the development of the TS2 and they had to start from scratch and they did such an awesome job and got soo creative on the storylines and didn‘t miss out on anything to make the game as it is , heck i still enjoy playing TS2 to this day at least it‘s never been as disappointing as TS4 , i mean if the fire didn‘t happen imagine the result ...
The Sims 2 was very realistic like with the relationships and the change tables and being able to bathe a baby in the sink and having to shop for clothes and food and the story lines are so interesting
When I first got sims 4 I was new to the sims so I made my simself and I married Don Because he was the only “ good looking” guy sim I saw. We ended up having like 6 kids and then I died at one of our daughters wedding. Then I kept playing with Don and because I realized that I could age them up using the Birthday cake Don was an elder while Bella Goth was still an adult so I made them get together and have more kids.
I remember trying to make Don be a family man in the Sims 2, and he kept getting whims to cheat. He was one of the most difficult Sims to play because I didn't have him cheat, so he was always unfulfilled.
I completely agree with everything your saying like I literally almost shed a tear watching this and seeing your passion lmfao because that's literally how I feel about sims 2 was the absolute best! The drama the storylines the people and trying to figure out what the hell is going on when you play a family for the first time it's literally the season I fell in love with the sims franchise, I just want it back :(
things I do in the sims 4 because its an alternate timeline and I don't have to worry about the other storylines and possibly ruining them: Don's gay now, I tend to either link him with Akira (from City Living) and my own sim and then have him break their hearts. so he's still running around leaving scars but with boys now.
I’ve been watching your channel consistently for a few months now and I’m so thankful I found your channel. You’re bloody brill, doing Yorkshire proud❤️
The only 2 Sims youtubers I watch religiously are Plumbella and Carmen King and the difference in their brands is just astounding P.S: New lights are KILLING it with the production quality I didn't know you've gone Hollywood
6:00 Well.. He does have a negative Bella Being Abducted Memmory, so perhaps, someone else might just be pulling the strings... I mean, i know its quite odd, but Dina has a tree-floor house and its close to Don. She might have encourage him to invite Bella and plant the idea of an affair with her or something. Maybe he thought about the abduction, but the sims 2 only has ONE telescope model that increases the abduction chance, and the one in Don house its NOT that one, yet he still has a picture of him looking confident with Bella looking through the Telescope. Taking in count Bella TS4 Job, i imagine something like Dina making some kind of plan to use, for example, Nina, to contact her grandparents and send fake clues about possible confrontation by the Bella Org or something. Actually... In The Sims Online Interview, i think she spoke about Morty making the elixir of life, perhaps a possible motive could be pushing apart his love ones for a Permanent-Death Cure or something. idk
(I changed ts4 bg sims to match their ts2 storylines). He keeps congratulating Cassandra in my game on her marriage and any new additions to the family... he previously left her at the altar and made out with Katrina Caliente right after
I love the sims, I have been playing the game since Sims 2 and I love everything EA is coming out with... but I also feel like in some aspects they have become more money hungry and so will sacrifice detail): such a shame because when you compare sims 4 to sims 2 it’s such a huge difference in the lack of detail):
I do exactly what you do when it comes to tweaking everyone to have storylines. I placed an empty save and went from scratch. lol. SO tedious but satisfying that it's the way YOU want it.
Amazing vid. What I loved so much about the Sims games were the back stories. I always thought Bella was taken by aliens while using the telephone at Don's place. You totally forget to mention that Don was originally married to The Baxter woman and had a son. This was shown the original Sims 2 preview.
These videos always make me feel disappointed in the sims 4, like did they really not try at all when they made it??? Its so much less wacky and interesting than all the others
As everyone in one my Sims 4 game (base game) started aging up, I went to play the Lothario/Caliente household and it was composed of 3 teenagers and 1 male child. Don and Dina were elders and Nina had died of “old age”, and none of them lived the house. Before I had never played them in that game. 2 of the girls had the last name “Caliente ” and were the children of Nina and Don and the other one was their cousin, but had the last name Lothario. Both Nina and Dina had children with Don, but then later married to other men and moved out of the house, leaving the children by themselves when Katrina Caliente passed. Overall, A lot of the townies are Lothario or Caliente related. This all happened without me even playing their family before.
I will say, Don has fathered some of the kids in my Sims 4 games, and he is an excellent father! My current save is 100 baby challenge. He fathered the first children and even though they are young adults and live on their own, he still comes by and helps with the current babies/toddlers, too!
I love your educational videos! Definitely my favourite. I definitely agree about depth of gameplay/story lines; thank you so much for all your hard work with the save files!
Your new lights make your eyes pop so much, like you downloaded CC eyes in real life. Love it! You go Glen Coco you big UA-camr you! Great video as always. ❤️
I kinda fixed Don’s storyline in the sims 4. So I had him and Cassandra get married and have a daughter together. The Caliente family moved back in town (they died in my game from old age so I brought them back). So Don cheated on Cassandra with both of the Caliente sisters and got both of them pregnant 🤰🏼! Cassandra found out kicked him out of the house 🏡 and now Don lives in a house in Oasis Springs with Dina with their son. Nina and him are just friends (for now). Nina still lives with her mother and is rising her daughter.
I miss how sims 2 had relationship percentages different for each sims. For example, you could be Cassandra who is deeply I love with Don, but Don is only slightly romantically interested in her. Whereas the sims 3 and 4 make it so if one sims is 100% interested romantically in the other, they both are at the same romance level. I like having storylines of one sims crushing while the other is not interested at all.
CrazyLazyT I know right! At least sims 4 has a difference for romance & friendly.
I miss having this in my game, made it so much more realistic and interesting for storylines!
I really miss crushes, i hope there's a generations style or romance pack that brings them back
CrazyLazyT yes oh my gosh!! i love ts4 but please bring this back! i have a storyline where my sim has a huge crush on someone and it’s actually mutually reciprocated but like they dont know about each other?? just aa pls ea
I miss it too but it used too be sooo hard to like actually become friends, from what i remember. Or my young self was maybe just a bit slow lol
I agree 100% To me, the Sims 4 is really lacking in the drama department which was one of my favorite aspects of the Sims 2. Sometimes i feel as if the sims team is trying to water down the game.
They're not *trying* , they've already done it pretty aggressively.
It's very easy to tell that TS2 is an exceptionally well designed video game made by smart developers who respect their player's time and intelligence. Meanwhile hop over to TS4 and you've got "haha he mad so he poopoo mad XD"
Dallyink ???? Confused 😐🤔
@@dallyink7412 exactly my thoughts!
I’m not trying to make excuses for the Sims team but I feel like this game was rushed by EA so the team missed out on so many little details that the previous games had. But I feel like the way the game is now and how it’s improved so much from the beginning we will probably get story progression eventually.
@@corey9137 the game was rushed, they'd been planning for it to be online and after the failure of drm simcity all the work for that was scrapped and they had to rush to flesh out the barebones they had for the rest of the game 🤷🏻♀️ it's why the relationships/family stories in ts4 are bio stories only, why the map was plain white, why there was no pools, ghosts or tots on release. So much effort and resources were put into an unused online multiplayer functionality but ea wouldn't push back dates for their devs to make a good product, just get it out and start working on dlc for more coin
Britney Spears wrote Womanizer about Don Lothario in the Sims 2 change my mind
Persephone Tyrell the three Britneys in the video are actually Nina, Dina and Cassandra
@@witchywoman2008 Nah they were Nina, Dina and the Pleasant Maid
I mean if Britney could write her own stuff then absolutely.
wow, i kinda like brittney a little bit now reading this...
This is almost definitely me reading too much into it but in the womaniser video people spin around and jump to change clothes like in the sims and at the end of the video Britney flips a sheet over the womaniser and he disappears... almost like he was teleported 😂 Did EA get the sims 3 story line from that music video?
Sims 2 was like the best soap opera never filmed: Everyone's sneaking around behind everyone else's backs, aliens, disappearances, and enough family drama to kill a cow.
This is a Spanish soap opera so dramatic, it can never see the light of day
TS2 is so messy 🍿🐸☕
@@Kanal7Indonesia But good messy
@@dream_angel234 The Spanish soap opera we all deserve
I don't know which one is messier: sims 2 drama, spanish soap operas, or indian dramas.
I didn’t realize how deep Sims goes with storylines.
Cristina Rodriguez Only in the old sims :(
*sims 2
Not anymore lol
They were 😭
They used to. They ruined it with the sims 4.
EA should release an expansion pack for the Sims 4 called "The sims 2"
Would be the best pack so far.
It’d be something like .. wants and fears from sims 2 only for 39,99$!!
Yes! I've been saying this! I want and NEED to see the Sims 2 with the sims 4 graphics, it would be stunning 👽💕
Yassss. Jealously, wants and fears and drama drama drama
No an expansion pack called sims 2 and 3
Half the reason I can’t play the sims 4 for any long period of time is the lack of storyline and story progression. It gets so boring. Even though the sims 3 lags and graphics aren’t great I still play it and enjoy it more than the sims 4.
cait I recently lost my sims 4 save file so had to start a new one and had forgotten how completely boring all the worlds and starter sims are. Barely gotten round to actually playing because I'm just remaking the starter sims and adding in my own with actual relationships and story
@@kate1361 I'm Doing That Now. I Recently Got The Sims 4 And Ngl, I Prefer Sims 4 Over Sims 3 (Haven't Played Sims 2 Or 1 Yet But Sims 2 Seems Dope) But Sims 4 Really Lacks Stories. I Deleted All Of The Other Households Sims And Made New Ones And I'm Making My Own Story With Thoses Sims.
@@kate1361 You can't even play the starter sims without having to create your own. That's the beauty of sims 2 and 3 -- you get to choose families you want to play with.
The first sim I ever played was Don. I made him have a party and after everyone left there was trash everywhere including an empty chip bag in front of the fridge. I didn’t know how to move the camera angle so I didn’t know there was something blocking the fridge and he died of hunger.... because of an empty chip bag lol oops
Riley Chiz this is amazing. I think the most dramatic thing about my first sims family in sims 2 was that I didn’t know kids and teens had to do homework so they always had Fs at school lmao
I didn't know Sims were dumb at the time so I thought just playing with the teen of the family would work fine. The whole family died of hunger, in front of a grill (except the teen I was exclusively controlling, of course) 😂
Fort time I ever played the sims (it was the sims 1), I’d forgotten the rosebud cheat but tried to build a large house. Then run out of money whilst my only furnishings were a kitchen. But they couldn’t eat because of lack of funds. So tried to give the parents jobs but they were too depressed. The dad died, then everyone else. Luckily I didn’t save and went back with the money cheat
Oh my gash HAHAHAHAHAHA
I miss that about Sims 3. It felt like I was entering a town and learning the people and their drama, but in Sims 4, it's like the whole town was empty before you created a sim and jumped in. It's a little frustrating
Ekhem storylines were missing in sims 3 too. They were the mostly worked out in sims 2 and they started losing interest in developing stories in sims 3
@@smilesiel Yeah I've heard Sims 2 was better about basically everything but I started with Sims 3 so I kinda missed out on the Sims 2 train
Exactly! *Sigh*
i feel like they did better in the beginning of sims 3 (sunset valley has a decent bit of backstory, not as much as any sims 2, but still a good bit) and it progressively got sloppier and a lot less story oriented through the expansions and towns. then you see them pretty much ditch the idea with the sims 4.
Ciel Dubilo no the sims 3 had a bunch of good storylines and they weren’t missing this is because the game didn’t have scripted events
I really hate how The Sims 4 has no storyline at all, we get that "it's another timeline" but no one knows anyone besides their own households, Sims don't have jobs and the story progression is shit, if you don't have mccc nothing happens in the game.
ikr?? at some point I felt FORCED to install MCCC 😔
I mean it's not that tedious for EA to make relationships as its literally the game developers jobs to make a game,,,, so you'd think they'd actually like,, do that
And from when they made the game(when death cheats were active) it woulda been really easy to set up their storylines cause they have cheats for relationships, deaths, careers etc, and so much more tuning abilities normal consumers don't get access to. They got away with being lazy and carried on so each new pack households stories are shallow for every new and returning families they add 🤷🏻♀️
They're too focused on selling the shambles it already is to new players instead of fixing genuine problems and making the game better- the brief summaries and backstories of the characters aren't even reflected in their real relationships, which is what annoys me most. Why bother writing backstories at all if they don't mean anything in gameplay?
Bffs: Not Bffs
Don and Katrina’s romance: nonexistent
Eliza and Bob’s crumbling marriage: Just Fine.
Sergio and Siobhan’s relationship: only exists if you activate a paragon meeting.
I’m hoping it’s just a coding issue, but like why can the Sims 2 be more in depth than a game made 10 years late?
@@queenkatara7861 also
-Karoke households Miko is meant to crush on her roommate, non-existant. -Villarreal and Kim/Spencer fam has a missing mother figure, mentioned in bio no where in tree
-Johnny Zest disowned by the Landgraabs, not in any way related in game and don't even know each other
-Landgraabs opposing careers could cause tension, marriage is default from CAS
-bbfs household meant to have a love triangle, nothing
-baily-moon, Octavia is meant to be the brains behind Thornes music career but she doesn't have a single skill in anything musical.
- vampire fams (vlad and the vatore siblings) are meant to not get along cause their culinary tastes, don't even know each other at the start (and vampires trailers literally shows Vlad turning Lilith)
And so much more 🙄
Caity Trina I knew I was forgetting some big ones. I can forgive them for not adding crushes because there currently isn’t a system for it (we really need one), but Johnny not being related to the landgraabs is so stupid. Like Johnny could potentially marry his family members and that’s just plain gross. 🤢
I had one of my sims have an accidental pregnancy with don, and they didn’t stay together (obviously) but he would come around all the time to feed the kids, push them on the swings, and just hung out with them on his own accord :’)
Did it stay like that until the kids got older?? Did the kids stay in contact with Don?
This story is wonderful I must know more
Awww
One redeeming factor
I would really love to see some story lines in TS4 because I love adding a sim to my family and then realising they love to play the piano and also have the Fengs as enemies like that would be so cool
catbrainz i made my sim as an evol politician and made victor feng divorced his wife and i realized feng is an evil politician as well so we're both now evil politicians
I'm a muslim guy and want to have a "good catholic girl" hoodie.
I a witch and I want a good catholic girl hoodie too hahahha
i'm poor and want a "good catholic girl" hoodie.
I'm a good catholic girl and I want you to have it too.
Eleanor Marsh me too
I’m a girl who don’t believe in anything . I want it to😂
I started playing from TS1. I was literally one of the first children to ever play it because my dad was part of the British testing team for it. Been an addict ever since. Bob and Betty Newbie will always be my favourite 😍
ask you’re dad where bella goth is pls we need answers lol
whooaa, now YOURE a true sims veteran! 👏
also don was a doctor in sims 2 and he looked nice, imagine the disappointment when i saw him in sims 4 what happened to him ? :(
He looks exactly like my doctor irl
@@MissesSaschaMSP maybe he got teleported to your doctor’s surgery👀
The producer of Sims actually said they lost Bella’s file from Sims 2 so that’s why her storyline is very weird. It was reveled in the EA Sims podcast.
Annoys me so much that the sims 4 hasn't got pre relationships before you play!
in my save file i went in & edited ALL the premades' relationships, careers, skills, etc. with ui cheats to make them consistent & it only took me like an hour to do, also yeeted katrina caliente right out of there bc she is a FRAUD! I do think EA has gotten better with premades, i really enjoy the strangerville & sulani townies, but it's a shame that the like, iconic premades were so bare-bones - also can we talk about how ea WHITEWASHED dina, nina, don, bella, AND cassandra?? in the sims 2, their skintones are the second-to-farkest, but in sims 4 they're suddenly pale?? EH????
sorry for ranting afkkdsk i'm just very passionate about these sims which is why i LOVE these videos! maybe you could do a video on the drama in veronaville? bc there's some real tea to be spilled there
xander omg yes! i had to edit everyone’s relationships and skills, boot katrina and darken all their skin tones! i don’t get why it’s so hard for them to be consistent.
WHY WITH THE SKINTONES. WHY. WHYYYYYY. It was so unnecessary. It kinda just seems like they were like "well the rest of the continuity is fucked. What's the point?"
Do you have to go into each household to change their relationships etc with mc? Have you thought about uploading your mc edited save... for the lazy and inept like me 😁 xx
@@skino1 seconded
Seconded!
The Calienete's in Sims 4, they look terrible, and why they have Don live with them and their 'Mum' Katrina is beyond me, really weird. Love these vids
I played Sims 2 after Sims 3 and when I first went into the pre-made sims households I was mindblown by the detail of their relationships. There was so much to discover and with every Sim you learned something new, it was amazing.
When I saw that Katrina is the Caliente sister' mom, I was SO upset...
Why, EA???
It’s so much fun watching her drag EA they deserve it tbh
just so you know ive started screaming eh everytime i get confused cuz of you
Ava ME LITERALLY ME 🤪
Same and all my friends plus my entire family hates it
@@danielleslibrary omg that too aha 😂😂😂
I was a major loser and played with the Capps and the Montys in Veronaville in Sims 2 cuz I’m a sucker for a Shakespeare reference lol those fams would be a cool video idea maybe?
Omg yes I loved this family!
Yes I loved Veronaville, my friends didn’t get it but SHAKESPEARE.
Omg I loved that family so much ! The Shakespeare references made my nerdy heart very happy
That was my introduction to Shakespeare lol
they were my faaves
The romeo and juliet storyline was also cool in tbe sims 2. I loved playing with pre made familys. Now i dont bother with sims 4 pre made sims
It just feels like the love for the Sims has completely gone, the lack of consistency in storylines, the lack of interaction with coworkers and fellow students, the lack of dramaaaaa. Its so bland now, I hate having to make all of the drama myself. One of my favourite moments in the Sims 3 was my sim getting married and then discovering (when he finally moved into my household) that her new husband was the boyfriend of her best friend and her friend was expecting his baby! It was wild! There's no surprise anymore, no pizazz!
The only Pizzazz we have now is Penny 💔
I really think the developers were in a rush to put out sims 4, if you really think about it the game came out missing soo many iconic sims stuff, toddlers, pools etc that they later patched in, if they took their time the game could of came out with all those things already in it, so its no surprise the characters are underdeveloped.
1-3 had such great stories and pre made relationships set up for characters. 4 is bland and part of the reason is that EA didn’t care to set anything up for anyone. Sims have made it into adulthood without ever making a friend? Really EA?
Remember the dev team is good and capable but it's the managers at ea who set their deadlines and ultimately choose what goes into pack. Less fleshed packs means faster turn out for packs means more dolla.
Devs = good, ea management = bad
don lothario? more like don't.
@0 he's also the father of several other children your Sim probably doesn't know about. ;)
@@karawithgun8148 honestly he just gathered a child with one of my sims haha😂
@@benfarmer-webb1016 noo same goes to my sim 😭
@@NK-di2oi but I never had him move in as we had 8 sims in the house and I just refused to let him come over so their relationship fizzled out quickly
@Pareidolia Omggg in my game he got Judith Ward pregnant but married Penny Pizzaz (and got her pregnant too)
Could you do a sims 2 save file on the sims 4?? Like with all the relationships etc already set up meaning that new players could experience the golden era of the sims!
If you'd like to try mine, I've made one that i use as my new game base file, its on the sims forums forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/955988/the-sims-4-sims-2-save-file
I'd suggest searching the internet to find and download the sims 2, such an amaxing game cannot be recreated in the sims 4.
@@karmahater3653 its laggy and slow
@@ana-mp7ju you need to search around the internet for workarounds. Sims 2 wasn't made to run in newer systems after all
I might try making this... might be easier to do in the sims 3 though
I think the "teleporter" mentioned in his Sims 3 bio was really a time machine.
I love this series so much! Though it's always so sad and disappointing when you get to the storylines in sims 4 😒 I wish they would've done a better job there
I still think it is crazy that I never knew sims had storylines. I played Sims 2 but I still only ever created my own sims and locked them in pools 🤷🏼♀️
Is it just me or have you been absolutely thriving? Did you change your hair? You are stunning Jesse! 😍💁🏼♀️
Every time i played The Sims 2 with Don and he got a Girl pregnant
She got Twins👶👶
And it didnt matter wich one it was
Yesss! He’s so dodgy, can’t wait to find out more about him
I love how in depth the stories of Sims 2 were so deep and so interesting. They weren't isolated, they felt like the spanned through the entire game and felt like they actually mattered. Sims 3 was still pretty good, but with the Sims 4 we lost all of that. Nothing is interconnected, no one has any real story, they just exist. There's almost no drive to play townies. I loved playing Townies in 1-3 but 4 I don't think I have once, I'd rather have my own story with a sim I created then have to create one/flesh one out for a sim I didn't. Which sucks because so many of mechanics in Sims 4 make such an improvement and make me really enjoy the gameplay aspect, but I just never bother with townies because they just feel like stock characters.
Is this a new camera or am I like tripping out rn
deva she mentioned a couple videos ago that she got new lights
That’s what I was thinking
right thats what i thought but apparently its just new lights... the lights made her quality sHOOT up sksk crazy she look sso clear
Didn’t expect to see a Runescape ref on a Plumbella vid, love your icon! 😂👌🏻
I’m so used to see okruee’s don in my game that I was shook when I saw the thumbnail. It was like ‘WHO IS THIS IMPOSTOR WHERE’S MY GREASY BOY™️’
omg BIG SAME
HE'S THE OG DON!!!
Change my mind- ok don't
You should do The Entire History Of Food In The Sims!
Yes! I'm cooking sims 2 food now so yeah I support this
Yeah it'll be cool
I am not a gryfindor but I do love the top you wore when u were editing!
Me literally me,
That is both a reference and my situation, I'm a Ravenclaw
Pineapple Ravenclaw I’m a Slytherin
I'm a Hufflepuff yee
Slytherclaw for life!
i'm a slitherclaw / raverin
jesse you are absolutely GLOWING 😍
I love that the sims 2 has it's own take on Romeo and Juliet xD
Not related but I was making a sims family and I spent 2.5 hours doing so and I went to get a snack and came back to see my little brother had turned my computer off and I wasted 2.5 hours to receive non of my hard work 😓
Grilled_Grace _ we’ve all been there. Has happened to me several times... it sucks but sometimes starting over gives you a chance to start something better. I’m sorry that happened
My niece used to do this when she was little because she wasn’t allowed to touch my computer.
RS D I had that happen when I was younger as well and I didn’t take it well at all back then. I would throw fits lol. Now when that happens I just slowly turn off my computer and I don’t play the sims for at least a day or two. 😂 I need time to mentally cool off before I start fresh.
Might wear the merch to results day. Need the wrath of god because I've failed maths
This is why I miss sims 2. Characters had their own stories that also linked up with others stories. Sims 4 could never
This is my favourite series. Keep up the good work Jesse. X ❤
Can you do nervous subject and the family he lives with next?
This is totally unrelated to this video, but I wanted to THANK YOU SO MUCH for your world save file!!!
I'm gonna watch some of your sims 4 playthroughs for tips, as I am HELLA new to the sims. I've been playing for like 2 weeks... and world management, using the MCCC, figuring out quality CC and knowing alpha and MM, and ALL THE THINGS are really daunting for a virgin player like me.
Your world save is a godsend!!
That amazing gift earned you a subscriber. Thank you again, Plumbella 🥰
I played sims 2 occasionally on the PlayStation when i was really young so I can’t really remember much of that BUT I played sims 3 for ages and finally gave in and moved to sims 4 in 2016. I haven’t played sims 3 since then and these videos just make me want to go back and play it
In my game I'm playing Don actually went through with the wedding to Cassandra even though I didn't change their relationship at all?? Literally feel like I witnessed a miracle
i play sims 4 and i always make cass and don get together bc i love them
I mean i love TS2 i just feel like they did such a great job like they had a fire in the company during the development of the TS2 and they had to start from scratch and they did such an awesome job and got soo creative on the storylines and didn‘t miss out on anything to make the game as it is , heck i still enjoy playing TS2 to this day at least it‘s never been as disappointing as TS4 , i mean if the fire didn‘t happen imagine the result ...
The Sims 2 was very realistic like with the relationships and the change tables and being able to bathe a baby in the sink and having to shop for clothes and food and the story lines are so interesting
When I first got sims 4 I was new to the sims so I made my simself and I married Don Because he was the only “ good looking” guy sim I saw. We ended up having like 6 kids and then I died at one of our daughters wedding. Then I kept playing with Don and because I realized that I could age them up using the Birthday cake Don was an elder while Bella Goth was still an adult so I made them get together and have more kids.
When she was talking about Don's sexcapades I was just waiting for Alex to swoop in and say *"the old devils tango"*
heyy plumbella I’ve just been in a livestream and 6 ppl knew who u were and ur channel has been recommended to 20 ppl 💞😝 xxhave a good day
I remember trying to make Don be a family man in the Sims 2, and he kept getting whims to cheat. He was one of the most difficult Sims to play because I didn't have him cheat, so he was always unfulfilled.
Omg the Bella Goth comparison to Regina George was everything 😂😂😂
I completely agree with everything your saying like I literally almost shed a tear watching this and seeing your passion lmfao because that's literally how I feel about sims 2 was the absolute best! The drama the storylines the people and trying to figure out what the hell is going on when you play a family for the first time it's literally the season I fell in love with the sims franchise, I just want it back :(
You have me sayin “I’ll tell ya that one for free” in my day to day life
things I do in the sims 4 because its an alternate timeline and I don't have to worry about the other storylines and possibly ruining them: Don's gay now, I tend to either link him with Akira (from City Living) and my own sim and then have him break their hearts. so he's still running around leaving scars but with boys now.
Sat here browsing youtube and needed something decent to watch... Finally!
I’ve been watching your channel consistently for a few months now and I’m so thankful I found your channel. You’re bloody brill, doing Yorkshire proud❤️
Don Lothario; the biggest nonce in the sims series
The only 2 Sims youtubers I watch religiously are Plumbella and Carmen King and the difference in their brands is just astounding
P.S: New lights are KILLING it with the production quality I didn't know you've gone Hollywood
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Well.. He does have a negative Bella Being Abducted Memmory, so perhaps, someone else might just be pulling the strings... I mean, i know its quite odd, but Dina has a tree-floor house and its close to Don. She might have encourage him to invite Bella and plant the idea of an affair with her or something. Maybe he thought about the abduction, but the sims 2 only has ONE telescope model that increases the abduction chance, and the one in Don house its NOT that one, yet he still has a picture of him looking confident with Bella looking through the Telescope. Taking in count Bella TS4 Job, i imagine something like Dina making some kind of plan to use, for example, Nina, to contact her grandparents and send fake clues about possible confrontation by the Bella Org or something. Actually... In The Sims Online Interview, i think she spoke about Morty making the elixir of life, perhaps a possible motive could be pushing apart his love ones for a Permanent-Death Cure or something.
idk
Don Lothario is my favorite sim, because of the drama. Thank you so much for making this video Plumbella! I was waiting for this ❤️
I have yet to play the sims 4 because of all your videos calling out EA for being lazy 💀
Don Lothario keeps inviting my Sims to alien parties...
(I changed ts4 bg sims to match their ts2 storylines).
He keeps congratulating Cassandra in my game on her marriage and any new additions to the family... he previously left her at the altar and made out with Katrina Caliente right after
I love the sims, I have been playing the game since Sims 2 and I love everything EA is coming out with... but I also feel like in some aspects they have become more money hungry and so will sacrifice detail): such a shame because when you compare sims 4 to sims 2 it’s such a huge difference in the lack of detail):
I do exactly what you do when it comes to tweaking everyone to have storylines. I placed an empty save and went from scratch. lol. SO tedious but satisfying that it's the way YOU want it.
In The Sims 4, I made the questionable decision to put a Lothario in almost every world....Don't ask me why, I just like to see the drama happen.
girl youre glowingggg YOU LOOK SO GOOD
“Am I gonna cry about it? Yes, maybe.” 😂
I found your channel through this series and enjoy it so much! So happy that you’re still doing it. 🎶
can we talk about how pretty you look in this video tho
Always spilling tea left and right gurl, I love you
That feeling when your name is Adriana and you feel kinda awkwad hearing it so many times when nobody really says it irl xD
Amazing vid. What I loved so much about the Sims games were the back stories. I always thought Bella was taken by aliens while using the telephone at Don's place. You totally forget to mention that Don was originally married to The Baxter woman and had a son. This was shown the original Sims 2 preview.
All we can do is pray that EA brings back the drama in sims 5
Ngl for two hours I was searching for gracies hair from your lp only to realise that it was on your tumblr lmaooo love your vids x
Omg don tried flirting with my sim today 😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
A piece of my chipotle lettuce fell off my fork and hit the thumbs up!
Shoutout to chipotle lettuce 😂
These videos always make me feel disappointed in the sims 4, like did they really not try at all when they made it??? Its so much less wacky and interesting than all the others
Well, sims 4 was supposed to be online and multiplayer... but went through last minute changes. Basically it's a rushed dumpster fire
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY DOING DON!!! Loved this, and love this series sooo much
I literally love you sooooo much.❤️❤️
As everyone in one my Sims 4 game (base game) started aging up, I went to play the Lothario/Caliente household and it was composed of 3 teenagers and 1 male child. Don and Dina were elders and Nina had died of “old age”, and none of them lived the house. Before I had never played them in that game. 2 of the girls had the last name “Caliente ” and were the children of Nina and Don and the other one was their cousin, but had the last name Lothario. Both Nina and Dina had children with Don, but then later married to other men and moved out of the house, leaving the children by themselves when Katrina Caliente passed. Overall, A lot of the townies are Lothario or Caliente related. This all happened without me even playing their family before.
I want the "Eh?" hoodie but I'm Canadian and I'm worried everyone will think it's a Canadian joke
I will say, Don has fathered some of the kids in my Sims 4 games, and he is an excellent father! My current save is 100 baby challenge. He fathered the first children and even though they are young adults and live on their own, he still comes by and helps with the current babies/toddlers, too!
Mmm I would still love an entire history of Lamas and Chinchillas 👀👀 since the chinchillas are literally already a thing in the middle ages lol
Love these _Entire Life Of_ series you got!
Me watching this after Don Lothario fathered my Sims daughter and broke up with my Sim.😂
I love your educational videos! Definitely my favourite. I definitely agree about depth of gameplay/story lines; thank you so much for all your hard work with the save files!
The Sims 4 was very disappointing as far as the lore goes...
Your new lights make your eyes pop so much, like you downloaded CC eyes in real life. Love it! You go Glen Coco you big UA-camr you! Great video as always. ❤️
I really enjoy this series! And I definitely agree with the fact that the Sims 4 is lacking in storylines and deepness.
You are literally glowing in this video!
Can u do the entire history of The Spencer-Kim-Lewis family llease
I kinda fixed Don’s storyline in the sims 4. So I had him and Cassandra get married and have a daughter together. The Caliente family moved back in town (they died in my game from old age so I brought them back). So Don cheated on Cassandra with both of the Caliente sisters and got both of them pregnant 🤰🏼! Cassandra found out kicked him out of the house 🏡 and now Don lives in a house in Oasis Springs with Dina with their son. Nina and him are just friends (for now). Nina still lives with her mother and is rising her daughter.