Overpowered to Unplayable: The Fall of Chamber
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The thing I think people forget about chamber is aside from his TP’s you need to aim to actually be effective with him. I dont think his head hunter bullets should be as expensive as they are and honesty his trip range is so shit now that it often feels like you have to put yourself in awkward positions to get anything done.
yes without aim there is no point in using him, the thing is chamber as an agent cant be said to be OP the player using him makes the agent
Yeup, the player who makes the agent broken, not the agent himself that is broken. It is quite almost the same with Jett's Blade storm, it is overpowered when the player's aim is so damn good, but the thing is jett's nerfed is not as bad as chamber
@@indrasyafei2304 anyone over gold would be a gold with chamber and that’s bc aiming isn’t that hard his kit with 2 tp was definitely op
Disagree on head hunter. The bullets before were cheaper than buying an actual sheriff(600 vs 800). Now it comparable (900 vs 800). For 6 bullets (what the sheriff holds). Plus the scope I think it’s fair to be more expensive than a sheriff
@@jrmiles54the sherif also has like 4 extra mags
The perfect video for OG chamber mainssss ☠️☠️☠️
bringing back the nightmares
Brooooo we have the same profile pic XD
@@ImpulseFPSyt lolllllll ☠️☠️☠️😅😅😅
@@forbidden_yk i drew that in visual arts💀
Leave us alone😢
What I think should be changed:
> When TP gets destroyed, the cooldown should be 40 seconds, not completely gone.
> Lower the noise of his trip and increase the range
> Give him back two trips
These 3 changes would make him an actual sentinel.
I find it an interesting suggestion, but that would probably leave people to not set up teamplay for chamber, which I think is kind of healthy for the game? Like we used to have solo chamber holds, i’m not sure if that would change with these changes. Maybe instead of 2 trips, a universal trip?
@@roelofsonneveld1049 They nerfed KJ's universal range for a reason
1. Pretty good change
2. Also good change
3. No, just no
2 trips would be insane
2 trips was too strong, it allowed Chamber to hold a whole site without needing to hold any lines almost.
What Riot wants to do i think, is to make chamber use his guns (headhunter and Tour de Force) as a replacements for his trips, he holds lines of sight;
Proud that I WAS a chamber main, IS a chamber main and WILL always be a chamber main.
No nerfs can defeat this agent, you just need to adjust with the new structure and believe me it still hold that power!
How I’m feeling with viper getting the “death by 1000 cuts” treatment
I agree.i main chamber too and have basically (alongside brimstone) since he was released. I at least hope his tp goes back to normal tho
nah some maps if u play it ur throwing
@@jagason7494 It is that way with any agent though, specially sentinels. You won't lock killjoy on a map like bind either
Totally agreed. His trip range does not even cover an entire site in big maps let alone moving around in a map without worrying about the backstab.@@jagason7494
Originally, I was a chamber main as an newbie because I wasn't a fan of the abilities like flashes, smokes, and movements, so I picked a charcter that was essentially in my eyes, a gunman. In addition, it was one of my first FPS games, so I was shit, and needed a playstyle that would suit me, flank, silently kill, retreat, and that kinda worked with me. When the nerf hit, I was devestaed by the teleport one especially since my rotation speed, and exit length was cut down by miles. Anyways, shit actually made have to get good at the game
when an agent is dominant in valorant, it is almost hard to have fun. reminds me of the time where astra was SO dominant then she dropped from an S to D tier agent and the same happened to chamber. Love these informative vids though! keep up the great work!!
Tbh, astra needs a small buff rn, maybe something to buff the time it takes to regain a recalled star or less time use stars at the start of the round. I was an immortal astra main so maybe I’m bias but I think omen is just better on most maps rn. Also harbour viper is a thing
Atleast she is picked in pro play…
Astra got nerfed but chamber got destroyed😂😂
She does get picked in pro play but it’s still less then omens pick rate. And pro play is where astra thrives
@@mattt1334 i agree never played her in her prime but i picked her up recently and i feel a small buff wouldnt hurt
If chamber was released like this today no one would think he's bad. The only reason everyone think he's bad is because everyone keeps comparing him to his unnerfed version. He still has a trip, he still has his headhunters which are a good secondary, he still has an instant getaway, and he still have his free operator
Toattly agree. The problem people have is that most player still refuse to play him as a sentinel - mostly stationary character that relies on his set up. If you do that, his trap is still very strong, and pushing camping Chamber, sitting on his ancor with a headhunter, is a nightmare. The worst thing Rito could do is buff him. Most players played during his dominante era and would get annoyed so fast if he stepped up again. It even opened up possibility to play other sentinels, and even tho, Kj kinda replaced him and began her own era, especially in pro play, she is far less toxic of character and people just go with it.
I strongly agree @AcidXD 👍👍👍👍😅😅😅
Nope. If ur anything above asc u know hes ass.
his trip covers fuck all and forces chamber to stay behind his team and makes the execution on site harder for his teammates. even if he go with the team his utils have 0 contribution to a site execute unlike other sentinels. for example kj can molly annoying camping angles, and cypher can get info with his cam and makes the entry to the site easier with his smokes.
on defensive side the nerf on his tp range really crippled him. he only has few angles per map where he can peek and return safely with enemy team’s jett dash and raze satchel which makes his playstyle predictable and easy to punish. not to mention that slow ass animation which is basically like phoenix ult now.
his ult is now wayy too underwhelming for an 8 point ult while the competition in that range of ult points are all basically free site clear ults like kj kayo breach and fade.
only thing thats going on in his kit is his deagle which requires skill to use(lol). if u wanna aim diff ur opponents there are wayy better agents for u to choose now
sorry if i ranted a bit much. i just had a chamber on my team who went 2-20. but yeah if he released now with his current state he would get harbor on release treatment lmao.
Nah bro he’s genuinely one of the worst agents only agents worse than him is Reyna because chamber TP>Reyna blind and he gets a free op
@@tmoe_ow2523 Bro literally just ruined the entire gameeeee😂😂😂
Bro understand, Reyna is the bestttttttt 🔥🔥🔥
Duelist gang !!!
I would add back his second tripwire and maybe a little adjustment to the ult time recover between shoots
I would want a second tradmark or his unlimited range of his one
The ult is still better than an op so... good
@@kusolp544 I'm not sure because they reduced the damage so it doesn't one shoot on legs and the time between shoot feels slower than an op, but maybe you refer to the slow down that leaves on the ground after a kill, anyway if they don't touch the ult I think they can reduce the cost of his ability gun's bullets back to 100 for bullet
@@lorenzobaravelli6637 that for sure, they made the gun more inaccurate so 100seems better, but the ult is still and faster + free + with slowdoen
Ult is little slower than the op
i think chamber is an alright pick, the only thing i dont like is that his trip seems extremely underpowered, the short range often means that when placing your chamber trip on flank, you have to stay fairly close to it and cant get far enough to execute site with your team without opening up a pretty big window for flankers to progress, it also has the obvious side effect of chamber having to play off site on most rounds or face the consequences of there always being a possible flank, which is somethjing you shouldnt have to worry about on a sentinel. every other part of his kit is malleable but balanced. so i think a small buff to the trip where the range allows you to play on site with your teammates without having to worry about flank would be good. however they shouldnt overdo it in a way that allows you to lurk wherever you want on the map while still covering flank. this change could also shift him into a bit more team play because he wouldnt be able to lurk every round.
The short distance on trip is the only problem I have with him currently
@@sqoo5 same
@@sqoo5 agreed completely.
I think it's fine for chamber to lurk, unlike other popular lurking agents, he doesn't really has much to offer for his team. He has no flash, no smoke, no entry. On attack he's better off holding flanks with an awp or lurking.
As an original chamber main (i started maining him AFTER the nerf and got to play him ONCE before the nerf), I can prominently say that the nerf had indeed hit him like a truck and there are only a handful of people who really REALLY main him after it. Overall, he needs a buff, maybe a second tripwire or greater distance for the rendevous would be a good idea.
Amazing video too, Thank you for speaking of such a grieving tale in a fun and intellectual manner.
2:35 here I would agree that Astra was really dominant in pro play for 1 year before her huge nerf
I used to main chamber aswell, and i still play him after all the nerfs. i think either giving him two trademarks (slows) again and increasing the range that u can be in for them would be a very welcome buff otherwise keeping the one trademark and having unlimited range on it seems fair imo.
The ult... i dont know whenever i use it now i feel like its even slower than a regular op this might just be a placebo effect but its how i feel. perhaps making it so that the slow doesnt slow down chamber himself might be a nice addition to counter all the nerfs he's gotten.
Right now i only play chamber on 1 map fracture, sometimes ill use him on Icebox aswell other than that i think there are much better sentinels for any of the other maps and using him "effectively" is a tall order in Comp since "teamwork" is barely a thing there even in my immortal games the amount of times people dont want to work together and just have the biggest ego "im the best imma do my own thing" mentality is insane
When chamber came out i didnt think anythink of it than thinking with these abilities you need sova to reveal his position to not get killed by suprise. But if you dont use any abilites against him its just a win for him, now its a bit easier to fight him but still the one tap from his headhunter is still dangerous.
As a chamber main who has been playing him since march of 2022 i feel like this guy is still playable. I mean, you still can play agressive, but you have to be smart with it. The ult is basically a free op which you cant pick up, so why would you complain. Trip is fine, similar to the kj's one. And headhunter of course, still powerful in my opinion, feels amazing hitting a headshot and using a tp immidiatelly. The one thing that I would definitelly change is the time of the trip to arm from 4 seconds to 3 or maybe even 2,5 (kj's trip arms almost immidiatelly after putting it down, right?) and I would like them to make the time lower when you want to use the trip again. Killjoy has to wait like what, 20 seconds? (Chamber waits 30). Other than that chamber feels completely fine, i love him the way he is, true chamber mains remained after his nerf overall LMAO
Headhunter = hh
Even yay choose a ghost over hh bullets so when would u use the hh besind eco kinda expensive (in my opinion) and even if then u only use it with a op if u missed the shoot and can’t tp out (hh u also gotta hit the head in most cases and even if ur appropriately not going to consistently hit it) or ur dead
Maybe if u run out of ammo but why don’t reload in the first place
All in all u only get to use the hh in like what 2-4 Rounds
@@justtrying5905 cool, but i use hh during pistol and often during normal round and works just fine for me so it depends on person i guess
@@jakubmiecznikowski8180 that is fine
but I think hh is overrated by most players since it's (practicality) a Guardian but (I think) any weapon above 2000 is good enough so that the hh becomes useless in those rounds
HH still is insane. Way better than ghost for a simple reason. If u die u have you bullets in second round and u can often win it or do good damage. also u have it for long range and classic righclick close. Also if u spam and miss u can switch and shoot last bullet with hh. If u have good Aim the HH is insane ngl.
I started playing when he got released, he was my main, Valorant has never been as fun ever again 😭😭
real
trust me no one was having fun when a chamber was in a match(which we all know he was in every match)
game actually feels fresher without him. The only people that were sad were the Chamber mains. Everyone else was happy
i really like chambers design but i think a few changes need to be made before he can be viable again, my thoughts are
once he picks up his trip it should be immediately available, if he picks up his rendezvous instead it's a 5 or 10 second cooldown instead of 30
if chamber is killed he should be able to keep his trip if he hadn't placed it down prior (similar to cypher)
he should get his second trip back but i'm fine if this doesn't happen
finally he should always spawn with at least one bullet for his headhunter (because of the saying "one in the chamber")
I am a Chamber main since the day he was released. I've been pre and post nerf, and I think that Chamber is still a pretty viable agent. In fact, I usually win most of my Chamber matches top fragging. I think that he's pretty good right where he is now, but the problem is that people can't stop comparing him with his past self. That's good, it'll never change, people will keep doing that. But imo, doing that comparison is the reason why most people think he is unplayable right now. I'm tired of seeing video titles saying that he was destroyed and that he's useless now, because that's not the case. If you have the skill and practice with him as you'd do with any other agent, you can get the most out of him and he's still pretty good and can stomp the server. Yes, there are some maps where I can use some other agents because Chamber is not as overpowered as before, but that's actually not a bad thing, as it is healthy for the game. Yes, I had to re-learn how to play with him and new TP spots and strategies because he's not the same as before, but that wasn't a big deal, people just have to adapt instead of crying over the idea that he was destroyed, which is actually not the case.
he needs his second trip back
@@il3arn260 I AGREEEE
one concept i had is he has two trips, FIRE for his regular trademark,and ALTFIRE for a secondary trip that you put on vertical surfaces, this trip could stun you instead of slowing
But the problem is that, when you want to play chamber in competitive, people always keep talking shit to you and blame you for picking unplayable agent. That's why I want his second tp anchor
@@emircs2442 bro who tf cares about those NPCs, play whatever u want
@@pixush you are right but, it does effect to my game bro. Most of the times they are gonna be throwing my game or talk shit and do not focus on game
Chamber can still be good if you know how to use it. You can make a site locked by yourself. An example is B Pearl. You can trip mid, play tube and put your tp in tube/site/screen and then peek again. Chamber is a better AWP'er than jett because you can put your tp's in diffirent places and be unpredictable. And then you just need at least decent to use all his util properly
Jett is 100% the better operator agent currently
You can't trip mid and play screens or backsite even, his trip range is just so bad now. If you want to keep your trip you'll have to play with a tp on default and peek from there, you can't even play behind pillar otherwise his trip deactivates.
You can put the trip in B link and go to B hall, but that trip doesn't guard the connector, so someone can sneak through it to A or spawn. The range is honestly bad for the most part.
As chamber main, the nerf hit like a truck. I was asc when chamb was meta, rn im stuck at plat lol
I think as a buff that makes him more sentinel like, the headhunter could have reduced bullets but revealed on hit with reduced damage. His traps range should be larger, his op is fine and his tp should have trap capabilities in case it's being camped
I enjoy playing chamber.
I'm new in valorant and didn't get to play pre nerf chamber. Maybe that is the reason but I find chamber impactful
Startet playing a month before the nerfs. Trust me my guy, Chamber pre nerf was the most fun ive had in a video game ever💀
@@TanoggnTV yeah he was a beast back then
I played little to no other agent but Chamber before the nerfs. I guess the good thing about the nerfs was that it pushed me to master other agents and diversify my playstyle but no other agent since has helped me climb higher and faster in ranked than pre-nerf Chamber.
The most enjoyable time I had with Chamber wasn't the sick shots with the weapons he had, but with his Rendezvous ability. I always loved playing around and fooling enemies with that ability. I still remember the time when I was diffusing the Spike in Bind B and the Spike was in the tube. I diffused half, and waited for the auditory cue of the enemy dropping from Hookah. I quickly tp back to Hookah (my E ability was already set there) and killed the enemy from behind, from Hookah, right after they dropped down from Hookah.
That being said, I have NEVER touched Chamber after his nerfs ever again. Reveling in the power he offered, it's borderline unthinkable of me to play as Chamber after his nerfs
I will never leave my man like that.He helped me climb the ranks lol
If it was a dulist then the trip nerfs and slight adjustments to his guns and tp but as a setinal the trip nerfs were not necessarily needed
the nerfs with the trip make him obsolete. riot have made another phoenix and sent jett right back into the meta on every single map
jett same shit broken agent just looks better when she kills entire team with hier knifes. thats why chamber was not allowed to be busted.
but chamber was never "dead". in the right hands chamber is since release one of the strongest agents in the game. its not unusually that a good chamber is 1th or 2nd on scoreboard
I made this comment before any buffs bro look at the date. Obv this is outdated and untrue now
These are the changes that I think would make chamber work better, but not overpowered like before. This would cater to a possible rework of his abilities.
The trip: I would keep the singular trip, but increase the hp of it to 55 and increase the range that it stays active by 30%. The range right now only leaves availability for being on 1 site and only that site.
Headhunter: change the amount of bullets to 6 or 7, reduce the cost of each bullet to 125 (if possible, I know that the game is in 50 point increments), make the equip time 6% slower, but return the accuracy that the headhunter had before. The op/headhunter combo is something that they don't want to have return in full swing. Having an ever so slight speed change in the equips might prevent that from happening while also making his kit stronger.
The TP: Keep the 1 TP anchor, increase the range by 1.5m, reduce inactive time by 4-5 seconds from current after each use, and lastly (to increase the role of sentinel) have the TP pop a slow field when destroyed. The slow field TP can increase the role of sentinel on his kit and force some more aggressive plays. Also, with the slow field TP, chambers will have to be mindful of their teammates since it can screw over pushes or retreats. Double edge sword type thing.
Finally the OP: Make the movement penalty on his op the same as a marshal. I feel that the op is in a good spot. It rewards accuracy and can work very well with his abilities. But it does not feel like an ult. An ult should feel pretty unique and powerful especially one that is meant for killing. The slow field is great, but it just needs a little more. My solution is changing the movement penalty. No overpowered possibilities if the fire rate stays the same.
i regret a lot not playing CHAMBER in his glory days
it’s crazy how changing one ability killed an entire agent
Just get rid of the cooldown on trip. There were many occasions where i need to reposition closer to site but i cant as i would need to manually watch flank until trip is up. The cooldown timer on trip makes him look like a site anchor agent when he isn't
The ability to reposition in a fps it's pretty overpowered, even if its just a couple meters away
Back then you had to play chamber as a defence so you can have your tps set up and can tp after you get a pick before the round starts. What I do now is play his kit more aggressively with his 1 tp cus I don’t have to worry about placing the second tp down.
5:26 Chamber: “i’m too far”
Bro just reminded my traumatizing past of chamber nerf, man i was a noob but this agent had really changed a ton for me but now nvm😭
4:12 here is the baddest part comes in for me,as you go higher in ranks this nerf bites your heart the most. 😢
I personally still think he's a good agent for eco, simply because the headhunter doesn't need to be bought, and when you eco or use a weapon that combos with it ( a sniper or shotgun), it tends to perform well and can be saved to another round. This means if you rifle, it will only take you 4100 to full buy a vandal or phantom, 3450 if you are guardian player, and 3250 if you uses a bulldog
i'm watching this vid as i started to main him a few days ago lol
i started playing him after his "rework" and kept playing him until today. hes still my fav agent in the game
I used to play chamber , but damn.. that nerf hit me hard
Lol Tenz said what a broken ass character got me cracking up
I think my problem with chamber has always been his designation as a sentinel. He, like almost all characters, has a mix of sentinel and another role in his case duelist. The problem as I see it is that he either takes up the sentinel slot on you're team without any real abilities to hold down a sight, except to win fights, a thing in theory anyone could do. Or even worse he takes up your duelist slot, and he has no ability to take space for you're team, again ither than just getting a bunch of kills.
In short Chambers core kit, especially his nerfed kit, pulls him in two polar opposite directions (sen/duel) and makes him a liability to most teams.
Given that he was so oppressive for over a year, I think it more than justifies the way he is now. I actually think he is fine as is. Its good that a sentinel role can't just aggressively push and needs to coordinate with his team to coordinate with him. When the Chamber nerfs first hit, Hiko put it best "All these Chamber mains are going to have to actually learn to play the game now so many of them will derank while learning to play" Chamber was so strong pre nerf that you really didn't have to learn to play the game, all you had to do was learn how to aim and you were good. get a shot and nobody could contest it.
and yet i still lock chamber and still a higher rank than u is crazy 😭
@Bonmivi good job king, you're better than me at a video game. Well done. I never said there aren't good Chamber players. There are always exceptions to the rule. Anyone with a brain and common sense knows that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@69Bloodstreaks LMAOOO U GOT MAD ABOUT A AGENT IN THE GAME 😭😱 ,
@@bonmivi I didn't know I was mad, thanks for letting me know. I thought I was just pointing out facts about agent before he was nerfed that EVERYONE knew
😂😂😂
trip range limit has to be removed and the tp needs to get a bit better agian imo. Maybe give back the 2 tp's or lower the cooldown when picked up
I recently transitioned into a chamber main. He is very fun to play and his strength is prolly offangles but u have to be confident and go in risky to get picks
Ahhhhhh nostalgic
he needs atleast 2 infinite range trips for him to be an actual sentinal like look at cypher and kj they have 2 pieces of util giving them info while chamber only has 1 limited range trip, he was a duelist sentinal and riot wanted to take away the duelist aspect but they took away both now he is neither a sentinal nor duelists, he is just an empty shell of his previous self
i am a chamber main but i really struggle with his tps as its just too short AND GIVE back two trips lower this ultimate point
Changes Chamber needs- 1. Give back the two tps but decrease the range 2. 1 trap is enough but give it unlimited range and 3. Increase the speed of his ult a bit, not like pre nerf but atleast more than now
1. Good
2. Absolute fine but unlimited is a litlle bit too much
3. HELL NAHH mate
This video just forced me to be a Chamber main and learn how to use OP and headhunters. Thanks
One thing that really annoys me about Chamber's nerf is not onlu how he has one trip like everyone says, but his "free" ability, aka his tp cannot be reused once destroyed. Like the tp is already weak because of the lack of range, but you can't use it once destroyed? Do you know how easily that trip is gone thanks to all the abilities like nades, shock darts, etc? Why do all the other sentinels have reusable free abilities then? Sage gets her heal back, cypher gets his camera back, and killjoy gets her turret back with a cooldown, why cant we have the same thing for Chamber then?
Tbh the only change I would make for him is his trip. He either has to have 2 or have 1 with infinite range
I think they should do a gamemode in which are all pre-nertf agents, pre-nerft jett whit her insta dash and Astra with her 5 starts and so on
They should atleast make this an option for Custom Game, would make a good content for the content creator.
and chamber would still dominate, dont forget, chamber pre nerf is the MOST broken agent ever even compared to pre nerfed jett.
Personaly, I think he needs a little buff for the headhunter and maybe the trapp, but I like him like this, I’m a good Chamber main and I love when I don’t have to instalock for playing the agent I like play.
DADDY CHAMBER IS BACK
I think he's fine other than his 2 tps, I wish the 2 tps were back, or at least increase the range to his anchor
Hated chamber when I was stuck silver/bronze. Now that im dia 2 I realise that I should have used him allot more then I did before the nerf
Same but i am still silver lol
bring back 2 trips with no range restriction, and make it so destroying tp still has like 30 second cooldown and hes balanced and still viable
he just got buffed!!!
0:08 that went so hard
What i think is, this game relies on abilities NOT just aim. This is not CSGO. If a player has an insane aim especially with operator that doesn't mean chamber does not need buff. He definitely does. His ultimate now technically means +4750$ to chamber and in many cases the wallbang is not even doing 150 anymore. His pistol gun is fine and doesn't need buff. The teleport needs slightly range increase as it is important in some maps. The trap definitely needs buff. It should explode and make a slowing circle if someone shoot it. If enemies just shoot it and rush site instantly then what's the point of it? Remember, chamber has only 1 trap not like cypher or others. And it is quite visible for enemies to destroy.
Glad to see all the og chamber mains come here before we finally come out of the basement with the upcoming buff
I'd argue they should keep him at 1 trip, but unnerf the ult and make the headhunter shots 100 creds again. Maybe they should even increase the range of the tp a bit. The only nerf he really needed was the proximity on trip, and changing it from 2 anchors to 1.
Man I remember getting these nasty 4ks and 1v5s with the og chamber. Then I left val for a year and when I hopped back they ruined him lmao
All we need is giving him infinite range trap or 2 traps and he'll become playable again at least in some maps. KJ got turret and invisible alarmbot while cypher got 2 tripwire with infinite range. It's unfair.
RAHH 1 MINUTE (love you dittoz your vids are awesome :D)
Tbh i think the only 2 buffs chamber needs are his ult shooting faster and the tp having the old range
I remain jett's ult right click was so op
The range removal of his trip and reduced cost of headhunter bullets will be a sufficient buff to him. I have no issues with any of the other nerfs tbh, but the trip nerf is extremely annoying. He's still playable tho
riot is gonna respond to this video with a chamber nurf
I would buff him so he got 2 traps, and make his ult faster. Like something between pre and after nerf. Additonally I would let him get his teleport back after destruction in 45secs, after recall you should get the teleport back in 25secs
Even Tarik said it himself, Riot did too much in nerfing Chamber that he’s basically decoration.
Buff Required:
Rendezvous Anchors>>1 (40sec cooldown when broken)
Trademark >> 1 (Infinite Range and Cooldown on breaking)
Tour De Force Fire Rate >>>> Increase by 35% and reduce ult points
Global Ranging
If I was to buff him, either add both his TPs or buff the current range to his one TP. Make the Ultimate miliseconds faster, and his trip having a bigger range, but still having the 4 seconds startup nerf.
My friend was a platinum 2 chamber main and ever since the nerfs he’s been hardstuck silver 2 😂
Honestly I thought they would just slightly nerf his TP, like make it so the TP would require direct line of sight to Chamber to teleport him. Or TP require direct line of sight to each other. But man they really killed him.
Litlleraly Jett dash but worse 💀
@@Therealvanessahow
I think they need to either buff his head hunters or trip. His trip currently feels useless and the area of play feels very small. I think they either remove the range or they add another to his kit so if he rotates he has at least one trip active. If they would do this they would increase the price of the trademark so you'd have to invest more to always have 2 trips active. The head hunter buff would either be a reduction in price or a buff to the accuracy
I think they should consider buffing chamber a little bit..
I mean it douldnt hurt to give him a second trap.. since the trapp now have a desactivation distance. And for the ult it should be buffed as well as the teleporter penalty time of usage..
Lucky for you he's getting a buff next patch
Riot should make a game mode (or atleast a beta version to test out) which is just like an unrated or swiftplay game, but all agents have their util at their prime. For ex: Chamber doubletrips and faster shooting, Jett instant dash, vipers has more gas in her smokes, breach with 3 flashes and so on. I personally would think that this could be a very popular gamemode, a ton of fun with no limits. Now of course, this should be looked at very carefully with bugs, however i also think old players can experience the earlier days of valorant again, and new players also get a chance to experience how busted agents were at their best. Maybe the powerlevels are really hard to balance? Who knows. However, this could be an amazing concept.
Then there is Yoru and Harbour with no changes LMAO
@@spiffycat I already have thought about this, and Yoru actually did have a time where his abilities were stronger, however, with Harbor i would say that the whole thing should be playtested first, no matter what
@@GummyBear0O432 Yoru's only gotten buffs since after the footsteps rework. Before that his whole kit was pretty ass like he only had 1 gatecrash, 1 footstep (they added another in for a bit), his flash wasn't as strong, his ult was shorter and in even earlier versions he wasn't even invisible in his ult. If you check all his changes on fandom you'll see he is literally at his prime right now. Also cypher cam with a gun, prime chamber, infinite range kj, insta dash jett are all pretty overpowered compared to agents like brimstone or sova.
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riot: another reason to nerf chamber
i still enjoy using chamber, but it sucks when picking chamber makes my teammates trashtalk me before the game even starts
They just need to give him a bit more like extend the range on how fare you can place the tp away from him and maybie a second tm or extend the range of it and also lower the set up time
hes playable again finally (watching this video 11 months after 💀💀)
Dude I Miss him so much
Make him more sentinel-y?
Add another trip and maybe take away range restrictions, possibly lower headhunter price as well?
The reason he's awesome still with this unplayable nerf is just the reason I love chamber ❤. hes not just an agent in a game, he's ultimate character in this whole gaming world.
Bro if riot games let old chamber here in 3 day is gonna be absolutely hell
Riot just straight up punished skilled players smh
They definitely went too far with the nerfs. Also I think trying to make characters fit into certain roles just gets in the way of good character design. Pre nerf chamber was a good all around character. He worked well as a sentinel or a duelist. I don't think his kit will ever be strictly one or the other. It just needs to be balanced
I used to main chamber. now that I'm getting back into Valorant, I decided to give a go at chamber. Then decided I never would again.
They massacred my boy.
I honestly believe if Chamber had 2 trips he'd be a more used Sentinel. He just doesn't have enough defensive power to help his team
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In my opinion if they would bring back the old tp in a weaker way like making it more expensive or lower the range and remove the range restriction of the trapwire he would be perfect
Riot games didn't want to start another french revolution
Would still be a chamber main despite the overhaul nerfs, the fact that I can have 1-2 eco rounds with an op severely helps in solo queue, but I agree that I can't play him with certain line ups
I rlly hope that riot learned their lesson of not combining classes that are opposite to each other. You can have a sentinel/controller, but not a sentinel/duelist and you can have an initiator/duelist, but not a initiator/controller. Once you start combining roles that are supposed to be the opposites of each other, then the character becomes too versatile and dominates matches, has an absurdly high pick rate, and if a pro team doesn’t use said agent then it’d be considered throwing.
Ive played lots of chamber in mid elo of high plat before, when he was op, and honestly looking at him now the nerfs are really reasonable, however i dont agree with trip nerfs, they nerfed all of his "duelist" kind of potential, so i would like to see him get the trip changes reverted back to their release state, they would fit him as a sentinel that he is supposed to be
I had an idea of making him actual sentinel. Make 2 anchors with infinite range between them, so he can be on 2 sites at the same time and rotate quickly, but the tp isn’t instant (sth like yoru tp) and add a second trip but with range. That would make him a unique sentinel who can be present on both of the sides and a nice lurker who can catch up with his team if the lurk was failed
That sounds extremely overpowered and would make him stronger than he ever was. No agent should be allowed to have this amount of lethal map control.
hell no
@@khanareeb9725 word
ask killjoy i can't defuse or even can't get close too the spike
As chamber main since day 1. It carry me to diamond
Chamber used to be suuuper overpowered, reminds me of the old days haha