Here are all my colours - www.urbansketch.co.uk/supplies (affiliate links). You can also see me experimenting with some of the new colours in this video - ua-cam.com/users/live-o972_ALhBQ?feature=share
Thank you for explaining your palette choices. The colors we use is very personal and a persons art can partially be identified by the colors they select. That is why the thought behind your selections is interesting. It helps a newer artist really think about their own palette. Thanks again.
Why not add the new colors by utilizing the middle row of your palette and still keeping the colors you have? You can buy some stick on magnets designed to back business cards, cut them into half pan size, stick them on your half pans and install in the middle row. They won’t fall out but can be removed or changed just like the rest of your pallet. It is a terrific way to try new colors, I think.
Love hearing your thoughts and 'whys'. Colour choice is so personal in my opinion that I find it almost impossible to have an opinion on someone else's palette.
Peryline violet is a favorite of mine, hard to reproduce without feeling muddy. I’ve added a couple of half pans down the center of my palette (very similar to yours), attached with poster putty. I use Indanthrone blue (for flowers) and a WN cad red (more flowers) there. I’m intrigued by Mayan blue and may have to cycle over to Blick today to pick some up. Thanks for the video, Toby.
I will be interested to see what you decide especially about Mayan Blue. My experience with Mayan Blue in the pan is that it's difficult to rewet and I didn't care for the texture, so I didn't use it. I love this discussion and it's one of my favorite parts of painting - deciding on the palette. 😉
I agree. Your colors are beautiful and well thought out and if you just add those new ones in the middle row then you don't have to do either/or .... you have it all. That's absolutely what I would do.
depends on what you want to do with it but if it where my palette I would switch one of the warm reds/oranges for a pink/magenta-ish hue...a cool red. though I love orange red so some kind of orange brown (some burnt sienna or mummy transparent red if I want something transparent)or reddish orange (pyrol red or vermillion hue) will always stay with me even on a small palette, they can be mixed with a quinacridone magenta and some good primary yellow for example. I also would probably ditch one of the greens...solely because they're relatively easy to mix . though having a limited palette with one specialty green one brown, yellow ochre and Prussian blue or indigo might be fun to experiment with on a shorter trip. I recently got schmincke's desert green and I really enjoy the effect, I think it might be really fun to paint roofs for example though up til now I mainly used it as background for portraits.
Thanks, Toby! So good to hear the thought process behind your choices and the way you use them. Your 14 set has such versatile mixing options. I am intrigued to learn how your next choices lok on your palette. I hear you on sepia. I like the colour in itself (mostly PBr7) but thehue is easy to mix. If you look for a lightfast alternative to Moonglow, you might want to see if one of the Schmincke super granulating colours might do the trick. They all have excellent lightfastness ratings and some colours have very singular pigment separation. As others mentioned, if making choices becomes too difficult you can place up to 18 half pans in that tin. You can remove the metal tray which currently holds the half pans and attach the half pans using blue tack or poster putty directly to the bottom of the tin. You get 4 more colours without having to change your palette.😉🖌️ You ask what we would do. I switched to using only singlepigments, so I use less colours but have aclearer idea of what mixes I can get. I preceed the choice after (probably too) many colour mixing charts. 😮😂
I'd add 2 colors just for flexibility. I like the Quin Mag and the Mayan Blue. I think Piemontite Gen (or Quin Burnt Scarlet) is a cross between Sepia and Per Violet, eliminating 2 for 1, just a thought. Then you could keep Lunar Earth if you wanted. You might also look at Stormy Blue by Da Vinci, a mix of PB60 & PR101. It's a punchier Indigo with no black pigment in it. I like Green Apatite, but I also like Serpentine. The Nickel Titanite is interesting, I'll have to see how you use it!
Thank you for the in depth talk through your palette. I hadn't thought about all the other properties of colors all that much yet. My main focus was on warm vs cold hues of colors, granulation is something that has only very recently been something I even recognise.
great to hear the underlying thoughts of colours, why they have been chosen, when they get used, why the get used, the split of Dual primary's, use of tonals. Why colours can't be removed without being considered and replaced...... so much I've never prevsious thought of.... never mind granularity, splitting etc.... ) - SUPERB ;)
This is great Toby I can’t wait to work with this pallets, I always have magenta in mine, so I’d have to get that in there, how about adding the magenta and remove one of the reds? Thanks again my friend, you do awesome work!
Love your channel Toby! Learning a lot and will take your course when we are done camping for the year. I played with sketching a vintage camper, but wasn’t happy with how I watercolored it. Coming from an acrylic background, I am heavy handed . Will keep trying!
Daniel Smith est un très bon choix les couleurs sont lumineuses et beaucoup granulent bien . Elles sont un peu chères mais l’investissement vaut la peine . Merci
I love videos like this! Have you tried nickel azo yellow instead of the quin gold? The NA tints out to a gorgeous, transparent yellow, but in mass tone looks like quin gold. It is a great mixer for greens so you could possibly drop the PY129 and end up with an empty spot. I have to agree with others though…I would definitely use the middle space and drop in a few guest colors to play with :-) On the primatek granulating side, Piemontite is one of my favorites, but I’m not sure it fits your needs…a fun one to try out some time though.
Thank you for great information. Your explanations are very useful for me as a newbie. I got a set of watercolors from Kristy Rice. Her colors are very unusual but 1 color is neon yellow and does amazing mixes. I'm in the US so don't know if they are available in the UK but take a look at here colors.
i don't know if you realize, but unless you actually use the space under the tray for mixing, you can get up to 24 pans to fit into that tin by removing the tray (you can even use poster putty to stick them in, it's cheaper than magnets and it works great). i know that's not the point, but between keeping the tray and using the middle row for a few extra colours and that, i don't see why you would need to pull out a colour you actually like and use just to make room for some new colours...
Thank you, Toby. As a beginner, this was so helpful for me. You have a great way of explaining things. Do you have a video on color theory with split primaries and perhaps color mixing? Just getting started with line and wash, and have joined Skillshare to view your classes.
I'm new to doing watercolors , and had no idea what colors where in your palate until you put them on paper ! 😅 But why not have a 'back up ' palate for those additional colors ?
Great question! I used to have two palettes, but I find it clears my mind just to have one slightly limited palette rather than confusing myself between two
I am finding that paints and new colours are a bit of an addiction! I am curious as to why you are making tough decisions when you can add some extra half pans into the middle of the palette. ?? 😊. Then you can have EVERYTHING,🤣🤣
Here are all my colours - www.urbansketch.co.uk/supplies (affiliate links).
You can also see me experimenting with some of the new colours in this video - ua-cam.com/users/live-o972_ALhBQ?feature=share
Thank you for explaining your palette choices. The colors we use is very personal and a persons art can partially be identified by the colors they select. That is why the thought behind your selections is interesting. It helps a newer artist really think about their own palette. Thanks again.
I want a copy of your book when is it out?
Why not add the new colors by utilizing the middle row of your palette and still keeping the colors you have? You can buy some stick on magnets designed to back business cards, cut them into half pan size, stick them on your half pans and install in the middle row. They won’t fall out but can be removed or changed just like the rest of your pallet. It is a terrific way to try new colors, I think.
Hehe thanks for the idea penny - I'll try and resist the temptation for more colours, but I might end up doing to
My thoughts exactly. That's what I've done in most my palettes. Works for me.
I have found that only the very cheap, thin-walled pans will fit in the middle row. I can't get thicker walled ones to fit.
Love hearing your thoughts and 'whys'.
Colour choice is so personal in my opinion that I find it almost impossible to have an opinion on someone else's palette.
I pretty much agree with your choices! Wonderful selections to me.😊
Thanks Patsy
Peryline violet is a favorite of mine, hard to reproduce without feeling muddy. I’ve added a couple of half pans down the center of my palette (very similar to yours), attached with poster putty. I use Indanthrone blue (for flowers) and a WN cad red (more flowers) there. I’m intrigued by Mayan blue and may have to cycle over to Blick today to pick some up. Thanks for the video, Toby.
Sounds great!
I will be interested to see what you decide especially about Mayan Blue. My experience with Mayan Blue in the pan is that it's difficult to rewet and I didn't care for the texture, so I didn't use it. I love this discussion and it's one of my favorite parts of painting - deciding on the palette. 😉
Haha yes a fun and expensive discussion 😂
Moonglow is a lovely tonal colour for shadows and lowering skies.
It definitely is
I agree. Your colors are beautiful and well thought out and if you just add those new ones in the middle row then you don't have to do either/or .... you have it all. That's absolutely what I would do.
So true!
depends on what you want to do with it but if it where my palette I would switch one of the warm reds/oranges for a pink/magenta-ish hue...a cool red. though I love orange red so some kind of orange brown (some burnt sienna or mummy transparent red if I want something transparent)or reddish orange (pyrol red or vermillion hue) will always stay with me even on a small palette, they can be mixed with a quinacridone magenta and some good primary yellow for example.
I also would probably ditch one of the greens...solely because they're relatively easy to mix . though having a limited palette with one specialty green one brown, yellow ochre and Prussian blue or indigo might be fun to experiment with on a shorter trip. I recently got schmincke's desert green and I really enjoy the effect, I think it might be really fun to paint roofs for example though up til now I mainly used it as background for portraits.
Great ideas
Thanks, Toby! So good to hear the thought process behind your choices and the way you use them. Your 14 set has such versatile mixing options. I am intrigued to learn how your next choices lok on your palette. I hear you on sepia. I like the colour in itself (mostly PBr7) but thehue is easy to mix. If you look for a lightfast alternative to Moonglow, you might want to see if one of the Schmincke super granulating colours might do the trick. They all have excellent lightfastness ratings and some colours have very singular pigment separation. As others mentioned, if making choices becomes too difficult you can place up to 18 half pans in that tin. You can remove the metal tray which currently holds the half pans and attach the half pans using blue tack or poster putty directly to the bottom of the tin. You get 4 more colours without having to change your palette.😉🖌️ You ask what we would do. I switched to using only singlepigments, so I use less colours but have aclearer idea of what mixes I can get. I preceed the choice after (probably too) many colour mixing charts. 😮😂
Thanks for this! I think I'd confuse myself too much with more colours but I still might do it !
I'd add 2 colors just for flexibility. I like the Quin Mag and the Mayan Blue. I think Piemontite Gen (or Quin Burnt Scarlet) is a cross between Sepia and Per Violet, eliminating 2 for 1, just a thought. Then you could keep Lunar Earth if you wanted. You might also look at Stormy Blue by Da Vinci, a mix of PB60 & PR101. It's a punchier Indigo with no black pigment in it. I like Green Apatite, but I also like Serpentine. The Nickel Titanite is interesting, I'll have to see how you use it!
Some great ideas here
@@TobySketchLoose thx Toby! Love your channel! Thx for all you do!
Thank you for the in depth talk through your palette. I hadn't thought about all the other properties of colors all that much yet. My main focus was on warm vs cold hues of colors, granulation is something that has only very recently been something I even recognise.
Glad it was helpful!
great to hear the underlying thoughts of colours, why they have been chosen, when they get used, why the get used, the split of Dual primary's, use of tonals. Why colours can't be removed without being considered and replaced...... so much I've never prevsious thought of.... never mind granularity, splitting etc.... ) - SUPERB ;)
Thanks 🙏👍
This is great Toby I can’t wait to work with this pallets, I always have magenta in mine, so I’d have to get that in there, how about adding the magenta and remove one of the reds? Thanks again my friend, you do awesome work!
Hehe I'll consider it :)
Love your channel Toby! Learning a lot and will take your course when we are done camping for the year. I played with sketching a vintage camper, but wasn’t happy with how I watercolored it. Coming from an acrylic background, I am heavy handed . Will keep trying!
Have fun!
Thanks a lot for the explanation! I wasn't sure which colors to buy and why. 😃👌🏼
Hehehe my pleasure. My tip is that you should definitely buy ALL of them 😂 that seems to be what I end up doing...
@@TobySketchLoose 😄 I had the same feeling!
Gosh, I like the Mayan Blue. Thank you for bringing it to my attention
Any time!
I love the Mayan Blue.
Me too!
Daniel Smith est un très bon choix les couleurs sont lumineuses et beaucoup granulent bien . Elles sont un peu chères mais l’investissement vaut la peine . Merci
Merci beaucoup
I love videos like this! Have you tried nickel azo yellow instead of the quin gold? The NA tints out to a gorgeous, transparent yellow, but in mass tone looks like quin gold. It is a great mixer for greens so you could possibly drop the PY129 and end up with an empty spot. I have to agree with others though…I would definitely use the middle space and drop in a few guest colors to play with :-) On the primatek granulating side, Piemontite is one of my favorites, but I’m not sure it fits your needs…a fun one to try out some time though.
I have nickel azo but never tried it in mass stone... I shall experiment
Thank you for great information. Your explanations are very useful for me as a newbie.
I got a set of watercolors from Kristy Rice. Her colors are very unusual but 1 color is neon yellow and does amazing mixes. I'm in the US so don't know if they are available in the UK but take a look at here colors.
Sounds like fun!
i don't know if you realize, but unless you actually use the space under the tray for mixing, you can get up to 24 pans to fit into that tin by removing the tray (you can even use poster putty to stick them in, it's cheaper than magnets and it works great). i know that's not the point, but between keeping the tray and using the middle row for a few extra colours and that, i don't see why you would need to pull out a colour you actually like and use just to make room for some new colours...
Yes indeed! For me and my little brain it's helpful to keep the number of colours down, that's why I restrict myself to 14 😊
Thank you, Toby. As a beginner, this was so helpful for me. You have a great way of explaining things. Do you have a video on color theory with split primaries and perhaps color mixing? Just getting started with line and wash, and have joined Skillshare to view your classes.
Not yet! But something for the future 😄
Oh, and amazing, thanks for joining me on SkillShare!
I'm new to doing watercolors , and had no idea what colors where in your palate until you put them on paper ! 😅 But why not have a 'back up ' palate for those additional colors ?
Great question! I used to have two palettes, but I find it clears my mind just to have one slightly limited palette rather than confusing myself between two
You could fit an extra row of pans down the middle of you pallet, maybe? So you could keep the colours you already have and get extra colours. 😊
Great tip!
what about white or black ck colour . do you never use it? what it is for then? who use whie and black
There is no white watercolour - only white gouache.
There is black, but no true flat black.
It's simply not how watercolours work.
I’d add Quinacridone Rose) not the quin magenta) and cerulean chromium and swap our sepia for van dyke brown 😊
I used to use van dyke brown, I'm not sure why I went off it!
TSL..my answer is add->Mayan Blue and Lunar Earth,did I win? Ha..
So far you did!
I am finding that paints and new colours are a bit of an addiction! I am curious as to why you are making tough decisions when you can add some extra half pans into the middle of the palette. ?? 😊. Then you can have EVERYTHING,🤣🤣
Hahaha yes!
😓 "PromoSM"
I don't understand??