Makita 40v Drill VS Massive Auger... Can Your Cordless Drill Do This?

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  • Опубліковано 16 кві 2022
  • A standard Makita 40v Hammer Drill (Combi Drill) takes on some massive Earth Augers with surprising results...
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  • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
    @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +5

    Check out a PROPER Makita 40v Earth Auger tool ua-cam.com/video/6OOp2JIIebE/v-deo.html
    Will it work with an Impact Wrench? ua-cam.com/video/qJiH6gL1_IQ/v-deo.html

  • @midlifecarpentry
    @midlifecarpentry 2 роки тому +9

    Happy Easter mate. That little drill continues to impress me.

  • @veitjacob9764
    @veitjacob9764 2 роки тому

    Happy Easter! Nothing better than some impressive drilling performances on an Easter morning.

  • @rjt135
    @rjt135 2 роки тому +1

    Love the stealth mounts stuff. The dual charger mount is a must have.

  • @Hours-zi9js
    @Hours-zi9js 2 роки тому +1

    Can’t believe your channel still doesn’t haven’t 100k subscribers. Glad to be one of the early ones. Keep up the good work man 👍

  • @shaggysparx9122
    @shaggysparx9122 Рік тому +2

    Awesome mate! I only needed a 6" diameter hole and was gonna rent a gas post auger, so you just saved me $100+

  • @alexhamon9261
    @alexhamon9261 2 роки тому +1

    Part of what made me decide I wanted XGT torque was wanting to run a 3" planting auger to dig holes for all my transplants on a large garden, about cooked an Milwaukee M18 combi drill. Good to see the Makita has the beans to turn a much more substantial auger.

    • @UncleIvan1
      @UncleIvan1 2 роки тому +3

      my Milwaukee latest fuel hammer drill over heated drilling few 1" auger bit through tree stump...

  • @micbic008
    @micbic008 2 роки тому

    good vidoe,, seen that 40 voilt drill in action,, it sure has some grunt,, awsome it can push that auger bit too,, Love the shorts at 1.30 looks like they done a bit,, keep up the vids Cheers

  • @warrickcoe5576
    @warrickcoe5576 2 роки тому +4

    You talked about a use for those 80v mower batteries. 80 v post hole borer.

  • @antomac9529
    @antomac9529 2 роки тому +11

    Great job. Looks like it could use a longer handle to keep it stable and it's perfect. Would love to see a test with masonry core bits 50mm-150mm. Great videos as always.

  • @masterofnone6620
    @masterofnone6620 2 роки тому +7

    I've been using a drill for drilling ice holes for three years now. There's no looking back to gas augers after.

  • @MB-hc9ob
    @MB-hc9ob Рік тому

    Wow awesome I would have never expected that. Absolutely 💯 awesome 👌🏾

  • @ABY68193
    @ABY68193 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi, was just wondering would an 18v combii drill do a good job with those bits or is it too weak?

  • @StrongmanLovesAnimals
    @StrongmanLovesAnimals Рік тому

    That's so cool 👍 it's gonna make fence posts a lot easier

  • @Mr357Cleveland
    @Mr357Cleveland 2 роки тому +13

    Damn impressive! Cordless tools have come a long way fast.👍

    • @brianwilliams9813
      @brianwilliams9813 2 роки тому +1

      hasn't been that fast 20 years

    • @Mr357Cleveland
      @Mr357Cleveland 2 роки тому +4

      @@brianwilliams9813 I don't know how many of these you use daily, but up until 8 odd years ago, my first choice for a powertool was one that plugged into the wall. I've had rechargeable Makita gear since the late '90's and for their time they were good, but they were a joke compared to 240 volt power if you were in a hurry. Since they've switched to brushless and have gone 18x2 on the more demanding tools, (and now the XGT line) I haven't touched my Corded collection, and there's some damn good stuff amongst it. So yes, to me it's been fast, if you were 18 you'd have a different perspective.

  • @ukfieldninja8730
    @ukfieldninja8730 2 роки тому +1

    Wish i had seen this video before i purchased this drill, only in so much as to 100% confirm it is perfect for auger driving into even hard ground. Quality video like ya say... its not meant to do this but can at owners risk 🤣👍👊

  • @moothegamer635
    @moothegamer635 Рік тому

    Where did you get the auger drill bits? I have the adapter, but can't decide on the best auger.

  • @clintlubbe1232
    @clintlubbe1232 2 роки тому

    Awesome video. I wonder if I can use my old 458 to do this? How about trying it with an impact driver?

  • @lawrencehahunga4864
    @lawrencehahunga4864 2 роки тому

    Where do you get the extension from to add orger bit

  • @shahremhassan2841
    @shahremhassan2841 10 місяців тому

    Helpful video

  • @Sgten01
    @Sgten01 2 роки тому +1

    perfect timing, just about to go buy a new drill lol. Hoping to get Dewalt's dcd470, which should be the same as Makita's one apart from specialised Auger style handles. Cant afford 40v stuff so dewalt it is.

  • @robertrada4783
    @robertrada4783 2 роки тому

    Holy moly, you weren’t kidding!

  • @kevinpunter7960
    @kevinpunter7960 2 роки тому

    Holy Crap! I wasn't expecting that :O

  • @San-et5xh
    @San-et5xh 2 роки тому +1

    I think I need to buy the auger bit adapters.

  • @TheSirPotato
    @TheSirPotato 2 роки тому +3

    Maybe the flexvolt mud mixer would be better, but still very impressive that a cordless drill can do that, I remember when a 2 9/16in drill bit would bog down my old cordless dewalt

    • @robivlahov
      @robivlahov 2 роки тому +1

      Not long ago I used a old einhel 9v drill, god that thing is crap , it took ages to drill into 5mm of abs plastic with a step drill bit , and getting it to 32 mm was a nightmare , swore to never run out of batteries on my drills ever again (was a customer's drill and it was the last hole , +the place had no electricity ... )

  • @RogueEagle
    @RogueEagle 2 роки тому +5

    I put an auger on my 18v, first few holes went ok... third one hit blackberry roots and twisted around in my hand.. really needed a handle on it.

    • @Davey768
      @Davey768 2 роки тому +2

      The 40v stops when that happens though.

    • @RogueEagle
      @RogueEagle 2 роки тому

      @@Davey768 i only had 1 hand on it

  • @MrHavokman
    @MrHavokman 4 місяці тому

    Have you tested it with the makita branded auger bits? Was there any difference?

  • @sawdustandsurvival
    @sawdustandsurvival 2 роки тому +1

    I'd LOVE to see if the 18v 486 can do this. I daren't try to do something like this with mine because it was a major purchase and if it dies I don't have another.

  • @sambrose1
    @sambrose1 2 роки тому +6

    Anybody that says that the handle is silly long hasn't used one of these drills to it's full potential.

  • @frankieg7575
    @frankieg7575 9 місяців тому

    what is connecting the auger to the drill?

  • @Pch100
    @Pch100 2 роки тому +1

    Got to say I'm impressed

  • @choudharyrk2404
    @choudharyrk2404 7 місяців тому

    how to attach drilling machine bit to Earth auger

  • @lukearbuckle4760
    @lukearbuckle4760 2 роки тому

    How would a big rotary hammer go like the DHR400ZK

  • @antonioperez7528
    @antonioperez7528 2 роки тому

    Very impressive. Good to watch this before bed. 😴💭power tools. Lol

  • @kizzjd9578
    @kizzjd9578 2 роки тому +1

    Hey man, im impressed! But also wondering if the right angle drill auger thingo will turn the 300mm auger. Ive got the 36v version with 200mm auger but not sure if i should buy the 300mm. Cheers

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +1

      Don't bother, it can't. The torque limiter keeps kicking in. Might be alright inreally loose or sandy soil, but it can't go into the clay I was doing with the 200mm Auger last video.

    • @kizzjd9578
      @kizzjd9578 2 роки тому

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL rekon the 40v drill/driver would?
      I ended up ordering a 300mm auger off ebay that was pretty cheap as a test anyway. Il let you know how it goes.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +1

      Only in loose soil as with this video. I've tried both in clay and it's violent and ineffective on both. Can't get more than a couple inches in.

    • @kizzjd9578
      @kizzjd9578 2 роки тому

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL i just used the 300mm and it works great, as long as you keep lifting it to clean out the hole and let it dig itself, it works awesome!

    • @kizzjd9578
      @kizzjd9578 2 роки тому

      Im making a 450mm auger as well so I’ll let you know how it goes as well. If it doesn’t work well, I’ll make a 6:1 planetary gearbox adapter to drive it.

  • @roberttoth8527
    @roberttoth8527 2 роки тому

    That was good again. Have a good one as well.

  • @k.squared
    @k.squared 4 місяці тому

    Was it in impact mode? Thinking if a mare DF001G could do it, or is it really an HP specialialty...

  • @youtuberpov
    @youtuberpov 2 роки тому

    I wonder if 18v can do that as well.

  • @mst5517
    @mst5517 2 роки тому

    Do you think you can use the auger Drills with an impact driver in the 700-1000nm range? Could be less wrist breaking than the drill.
    Thanks mate

  • @bartfoster1311
    @bartfoster1311 2 роки тому

    I have been looking at some augers to try the same thing with different drills; i have been wanting to try this with the big Dewalt 60v joist drill and mixer drill I have.
    It is amazing what these new cordless tools can do!

  • @philsg13
    @philsg13 2 роки тому

    Where’d you pick the auger in nz?

  • @rayanator105
    @rayanator105 Рік тому

    I wonder how well the Stihl BT45 would run a 300mm auger even though it's rated for a 127mm/5" maximum planting auger size.

  • @henryng439
    @henryng439 10 місяців тому

    i was trying to decide between gas auger and electric auger

  • @philwort1873
    @philwort1873 2 роки тому +3

    My hikoki 36v makes some interesting noises in the chuck after running a 150mm earth auger down a number of holes. Not sure how these drills will stand up long term if you did alot of large holes with it. Guess it depends on your warranty claim ethics 🤣

  • @mattv5281
    @mattv5281 2 роки тому

    Does the 40V auger/right angle drill have a lot more torque than the 40V drill you showed in this video? I can't find a torque spec for the right angle drill.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +3

      No. It has a torque limiter to protect you an the tool. I filmed a comparison yesterday between both drills. I better go do some editing...

    • @753zXc
      @753zXc 2 роки тому

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL can't wait to see it!

  • @installer1571
    @installer1571 2 роки тому +1

    I would love to see that drill drill through concrete with 150mm concrete hole saw I tried it with an 18-volt version of the drill I would be interested to see what the 40 volt would do 18 volt could not do it

    • @CUMWIZARDx
      @CUMWIZARDx 2 роки тому

      I have had luck core drilling 100mm through brick walls for wastes with my 18v makita drill

  • @benjaminravatsassolberg7609

    This video made me go XGT. Makita should be sponsoring you 😄
    If you’re running out of ideas for upcoming content (yeah I’m looking for buyers advice 😅):
    1. there’s no good and/or english vids concerning DUC101, DUP362, DJV184 and a new barrel grip I can’t remember the model number of, HR007G, HR009G, CE001G.
    2. A DJR189 review or vs Milwaukee, Dewalt and Hikoki equivalents
    3. DUC101 vs M18 (vs Pellenc vs Stihl?)

  • @sawdustandsurvival
    @sawdustandsurvival 2 роки тому +12

    That is absolutely crazy. I can't believe a cordless tool just did that.

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 2 роки тому +2

      Just as with Ice auger , this has the problem that you can injure your hand .
      People started using cordless drills with Ice auger and new line injuries appeared to ER , people with massive thumb injury .
      In Finland Makita DDF486RTJ is sold with ice auger Rapala UR EVO EZ Makita Edition 155mm , that has a guard on the shaft .

    • @JacqueCRISCOsd
      @JacqueCRISCOsd 7 днів тому

      @@pete_lindyeah, weak link is the human.
      Need some sort of rig that gives you more control. I know my Milwaukee could do this, I also know it WILL hurt me.

  • @ollie9199
    @ollie9199 Рік тому

    But will the 18v do it?

  • @JDAfrica
    @JDAfrica 2 роки тому +1

    How do you adapt the auger to but to the drill? Can you add a link for the part?

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +1

      This is the adaptor I'm using. ebay.us/Kcscg4

    • @philwort1873
      @philwort1873 2 роки тому

      How good are 7/16 hex bits. I wish the big drills would run a 7/16 quick change collett like an what the metabo and festool run in 1/4 i think. I use the diablo quick change holesaw and a few or the arbors are 7/16 and quick change would be mint! I think the chuck in my hikoki has never been the same after running a 7/16 hex 150mm earth auger in it. I think the only 2 things with that driver size is usa only right angle drills and linesman impact drivers

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos 2 роки тому

    I certainly wouldn't be doing this all the time with it. I have the big Gen2 Milwaukee drill, and even with a mixer attachment for mixing paint and plaster, the gearbox is straight up not having a good time

  • @davidreynolds4684
    @davidreynolds4684 6 місяців тому

    I'm guessing it'll do it providing the dirt is good brown dirt. If you hit clay and rocks it'll be rough

  • @ericfelix13
    @ericfelix13 2 роки тому

    Makita 40v looks awesome. I have been meaning to get my hands on that drill but it's still a lil pricey out here in the states. Waiting on a good sale.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +3

      It's even more expensive everywhere else on earth.

    • @ericfelix13
      @ericfelix13 2 роки тому

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL darn, for some reason I thought you guys had better prices on Makita.

    • @TheOMEGANOX
      @TheOMEGANOX 2 роки тому +1

      Got mine a week ago for less than $150 delivered, ebay.

    • @ericfelix13
      @ericfelix13 2 роки тому

      I guess I'll have to check out ebay. Never bought any tools there before but it's worth a try.

  • @davidreynolds4684
    @davidreynolds4684 6 місяців тому

    You should prob have a breaker bar with you when doing this work as you're bound to hit rocks and tree roots if used enough

  • @dreadswizzard9142
    @dreadswizzard9142 2 роки тому

    I have that same drill

  • @Burritosarebetterthantacos
    @Burritosarebetterthantacos 8 місяців тому

    was wondering if my corded hilt could do this job....now Im thinking yes

  • @chrishazleton2440
    @chrishazleton2440 5 місяців тому

    I wonder what my right angle stud drill can do

  • @sung9415
    @sung9415 13 днів тому

    Hey mate, where did you get the 300mm auger from? Cheers mate!

  • @RegisG.
    @RegisG. 2 роки тому

    Hi, it's you who stops the tool or AFT system (Anti-Kickback)?

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +1

      AFT most of the time.

    • @RegisG.
      @RegisG. 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Thank's. Oz Tool Talk thinks it's inactive. In fact, it's set too high for some tasks. It must be complicated to find a middle ground! The Bosch is so sensitive that it must be disabled...

  • @TakamiWoodshop
    @TakamiWoodshop 2 роки тому

    Ya mad bahstid. 🤣 Bloody works mint tho aye

  • @tingtongitshakim
    @tingtongitshakim 4 місяці тому

    I used a worx 20v rotary hammer drill cant even dig a hole.

  • @legallyfree2955
    @legallyfree2955 Рік тому

    How many more years do you reckon you got left in those shorts of yours? 10?

  • @positiveaspect5730
    @positiveaspect5730 2 роки тому +2

    holy crap

  • @mourikogoro9709
    @mourikogoro9709 3 дні тому

    Is that auger compatible with electric impact wrench? So that will reduce injury risk and also gain more drilling torque.

  • @user-fx7ic1tw6d
    @user-fx7ic1tw6d 2 роки тому

    На 100мм. этот XGT drill, "сверлит" почву очень даже лихо и уверенно✊
    👍

  • @samsboringchannel
    @samsboringchannel 2 роки тому

    There's been someone on trade me selling auger bits for drills, and I've thought about giving it a go with 18v drills for a while so essentially this video talks right to my imagination here haha. Do I need to dig a hole soon? No. Am I going to look at getting some for my amusement? Hells yeah haha

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому

      Some go straight in a drill chuck. The ones in this video need an adaptor as they were designed for post hole borers.

    • @mattv5281
      @mattv5281 2 роки тому

      I bought a drill chuck one and the shaft broke within 5 minutes. It was no match for my Makita 18V drill.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому

      I thought they might be like that. The real ones are far more substantial.

    • @youtuberpov
      @youtuberpov 2 роки тому

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL hi can you link your trademe . Cheers

  • @cedrics5370
    @cedrics5370 2 роки тому +1

    Let's compare this with a beefy 18V like the DHP486

  • @jamallaidley4718
    @jamallaidley4718 2 роки тому

    Cool 😎

  • @hclandscapes
    @hclandscapes 2 роки тому +1

    Could definitely see this being useful if i had loads of plants to put in the ground as it would save loads of time digging lots of little holes!

  • @TheBoufhead
    @TheBoufhead 2 роки тому

    You should try this with the makita 40v 3/4 Impact wrench. Things has 1000nm+ of torque

    • @saiiiiiii1
      @saiiiiiii1 2 роки тому

      Impacts do pretty bad on these jobs. There are a few videos on ice augers with impacts.

    • @TheBoufhead
      @TheBoufhead 2 роки тому

      @@saiiiiiii1 I'm still keen to see it hahaha

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому

      Tonight NZ time...

  • @trevormanuelsingko4373
    @trevormanuelsingko4373 2 роки тому +1

    jees the technology of the 40v is far more superior than 18v, ive started selling my 18v now

  • @fecalmatter4195
    @fecalmatter4195 Рік тому

    I use this often for post I find it usually gets through clay/sandstone but what stops it in its tracks are roots that are about 2inches plus. It saves a lot of time but you get unlucky with roots sometimes.

  • @jakwhe07
    @jakwhe07 2 місяці тому

    Man sounds like CORG - THOR RAGNAROCK 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wippip
    @wippip 2 роки тому +1

    Those buggers will twist your arm off. Its almost stupid how much power they managed to cram in such a tiny battery powered tool.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +2

      I know. And I still get comments regularly from people saying "You don't need a side handle on a cordless drill"

    • @wippip
      @wippip 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL After nearly taking off a kneecap with a 10 inch angle grinder I’ve got nothing but respect for these tools.
      If there’s a handle in the kit that thing’s getting used.

  • @derfacecrafter1869
    @derfacecrafter1869 2 роки тому

    Hm..I would say yes it can.
    (DF001G)

  • @DerFledderer
    @DerFledderer 2 роки тому

    I'd suggest using an impact wrench for this type of work. Saves your wirsts as well!

    • @michaeljugg9415
      @michaeljugg9415 2 роки тому +2

      A impact wrench wont work with augers 😂😂

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 2 роки тому

      @@michaeljugg9415 why?

    • @michaeljugg9415
      @michaeljugg9415 2 роки тому

      @@UA-camuser1aa a impact wrench is not designed to use with earth augers but you could try

    • @Youtubeuser1aa
      @Youtubeuser1aa 2 роки тому

      @@michaeljugg9415 I mean you could argue a tiny drill isn’t.
      So there ain’t anything stopping it.

    • @michaeljugg9415
      @michaeljugg9415 2 роки тому

      @@UA-camuser1aa you could argue a hand drill isnt aswell but thier u go you could try with your tiny drill to have it break first use

  • @BeesBugsJapan
    @BeesBugsJapan 2 роки тому

    needs a digging mode.

  • @Davey768
    @Davey768 2 роки тому

    He originally had pants on when he started filming this video, before hitting some roots...

  • @moothegamer635
    @moothegamer635 Рік тому

    I bought my adapter and the bolt won't fit the hole to secure my drill to the auger

  • @aaronporter2180
    @aaronporter2180 2 роки тому +1

    She needs a bigger handle

  • @antonischatzianestiadis5776

    Makita = Power

  • @PostUp_Time
    @PostUp_Time 2 роки тому +1

    *THIS IS NOT A CRAZY IDEA BECAUSE MAKITA ALREADY MAKES HANDLES TO PUT ON THEIR EQUIVALENT TO MILWAUKEES SUPER HAWG, THE EXTRA HANDLES ARE FOR PROPER HANDLING/BRACING* TRY A HEAVY DUTY DRILL, ELECTRIC WILL WORK LIKE A SUPER HAWG

  • @chrisvaiuso6010
    @chrisvaiuso6010 2 роки тому

    There has got to be someone on this planet who is making adapters for tool batteries that can adjust voltage. I wish I could use my 60v dewalt batteries on 40v makita tools.

    • @bossmanz28
      @bossmanz28 2 роки тому +1

      It wouldnt work. 60v (54v) has to be in configuration of 15 cells (15,30,45,60 etc) 40v (36v) has to be in configuration of 10 cells (10,20,30,40 etc). 20v (18v) works cuz its a configuration of 5 cells (5,10,15, 20 etc) theres one flexvolt battery that could work with the makita 40v if the wiring was proper and thats the 15ah flexvolt cuz its a 30 cell battery which can work for either voltage. Has to be wired properly for it tho. I dont know how some1 could make an adpater that would change the battery to proper wiring and voltage

    • @chrisvaiuso6010
      @chrisvaiuso6010 2 роки тому

      @@bossmanz28 Reducing voltage is old tek. It may not work the same way as a flex volt battery, but it certainly is possible.

  • @jessebarnett4205
    @jessebarnett4205 2 роки тому

    My Milwaukee could do it

  • @isaiahii6982
    @isaiahii6982 2 роки тому

    When using an auger you need to clear the hole as you go down. Even with big powerful augers you need to keep clearing the blade of dirt as you drill.

  • @demetriorios5616
    @demetriorios5616 2 роки тому +1

    Wtf

  • @albey1816
    @albey1816 7 місяців тому

    Is this drill a 2-speed? - Need to use low gear, to avoid ripping your arm off.

  • @ColourWolfify
    @ColourWolfify 2 роки тому +1

    looks like click bait...... but..... WTF???

  • @vitalief9291
    @vitalief9291 2 роки тому

    You can say an amateur is using that drill. Reducing the speed will give more torque and more control over the tool.

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +3

      You can see an amateur made this comment as you have not listened as the tool IS on the lowest setting as was talked about in the video. Nor do you understand physics in relation to the increased speed of the outer diameter of drill bits with the increase in size. If you are going to come at people, make sure you know what you are talking about, because you don't pal.

  • @rhyslf
    @rhyslf 2 роки тому

    First, boom! 😂

  • @jack91522
    @jack91522 11 місяців тому

    Won't work in rocky areas like southern california

  • @Factoryseconds123
    @Factoryseconds123 2 роки тому +1

    Those augers were designed to be driven with impact drivers not drills 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @CowsGoM3ow
      @CowsGoM3ow 2 роки тому +1

      I forgot the title of the video was "can your impact driver do this?"

    • @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL
      @ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL  2 роки тому +2

      No impact driver could ever cope with that much torque.

    • @Sgten01
      @Sgten01 2 роки тому +1

      @@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL can you make a video plz? If it works might save me a bit of cash. Those big torque impacts are sitting at about 900nm, seems like it should work on paper?