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  • @NoRollsBarred
    @NoRollsBarred  3 роки тому +13

    ADAM: If you'd like to buy any of these games, consider using our Amazon Affiliate links to help out the channel!
    10. Qwirkle - US: amzn.to/2OQqffz // UK: amzn.to/3vkzxRF
    9. Labyrinth - US: amzn.to/3vfoQzT // UK: amzn.to/2OQJsOc
    8. Click Clack Lumberjack - US: bit.ly/2OKhDqF // UK: bit.ly/38xknyE
    7. Hey, That's My Fish! - US: amzn.to/3qKNvbQ // UK: bit.ly/2OUcGMc
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    5. Forbidden Island - US: amzn.to/30FdKWK // UK: amzn.to/3qKRJjZ
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    2. King Of Tokyo - US: amzn.to/3lbBRpi // UK: amzn.to/3th0pAk
    1. Stuffed Fables - US: amzn.to/3crdWOX // UK: amzn.to/30EW2Td

    • @Kawabxl
      @Kawabxl 3 роки тому

      I think it's the most truth intro in the internet. I've nearly cry. 😂

  • @harveyholmes9533
    @harveyholmes9533 3 роки тому +79

    I imagine for a lot of us teenager/young adults will be using this list as easy ways to get our disinterested easily confused parents playing

    • @EmmaBonn96
      @EmmaBonn96 3 роки тому +9

      That could be a good list in itself

    • @siddhartramotar8774
      @siddhartramotar8774 3 роки тому +10

      You would not believe how hard it was to teach my family sushi go party we definitely need a list for easily confused adults lol

    • @BigManJay69
      @BigManJay69 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly. Im looking at this list for safety games whenever I have anyone over who is a bit Joe Biden

    • @bexh6181
      @bexh6181 Рік тому

      My go to game for people who don't understand games (and don't really care to) is The Climbers.

    • @SuperEcho64
      @SuperEcho64 5 місяців тому

      Came back in 2024 for this reason.... By the way, My mom loves King of Tokyo now.

  • @WhatsCheeze
    @WhatsCheeze 3 роки тому +17

    Adam would die for Lumpy..
    Now that brings a sad, but joyful, tear to my heart.
    If you know then you know.

  • @drmufflebush7441
    @drmufflebush7441 3 роки тому +32

    My 8 year old and I are elbow deep in an Aliens: Another Glorious Day in the Corps addiction. I feel so lucky.

  • @MrKennybass
    @MrKennybass 3 роки тому +19

    I have never laughed harder at an opening line. Well done Adam, you magnificent bastard.

  • @JWHvidoes
    @JWHvidoes 3 роки тому +7

    Man, my kids are just a wee bit too young, but in like 2 years we’ll be playing most of these. Solid move for Dad’s, making this video was. Thanks.

  • @JetsDuck
    @JetsDuck 3 роки тому +3

    That is the most loved copy of Qwirkle I've ever seen.

  • @naomil7830
    @naomil7830 3 роки тому +5

    I really really like that there are a number on here you don’t see that often on similar lists. Great round up!

  • @charlesberg1234
    @charlesberg1234 3 роки тому +21

    MY FAVORITE CHILDHOOD GAME BETTER BE ON THIS LIST OR SO HELP YOU GOD, I will do nothing because this is your list and your opinions.

  • @andrewclifton185
    @andrewclifton185 3 роки тому +5

    Castle panic, Tsuro, Camel up, welcome to the dungeon and ghost fighting treasure hunters were all a must with our kids :)

    • @MrJmarzetti
      @MrJmarzetti 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, Ghost Fighting Treasure Hunters is a awesome intro into co-op games. My kids love that one too!

  • @PajaIrv
    @PajaIrv 3 роки тому +2

    Best Intro EVER!

  • @dannystill5558
    @dannystill5558 2 місяці тому

    The intro had me hooked. Amazing. “Swan dive into traffic” Please review everything on the planet.

  • @charlier.k4934
    @charlier.k4934 3 роки тому +4

    Im 27 and still laughed at the bum and poo stuff on scrabble.
    I love this channel and look forward to the next list!

  • @keninmaine1690
    @keninmaine1690 3 роки тому +9

    I just watched this video yesterday. Today we were out at a flea market/vintage shop and I found a used copy of the tin-boxed, Anniversary edition of Labyrinth. I snagged it, of course! 👍 Thanks for the recommendation (and all the great gaming videos!)!

  • @harveyholmes9533
    @harveyholmes9533 3 роки тому +7

    4:56 fun fact the guy who played Neville Longbottom now hosts the Leeds United Football Podcast and turns up to most recordings some degree of hungover, time flys eh

  • @jd2k16
    @jd2k16 3 роки тому +6

    As a teacher, Adam, your intro was hilarious and the fact that you just dunked on kids for 12 minutes is great! Lol'd

  • @mohammadrahman3296
    @mohammadrahman3296 3 роки тому +2

    When you were basicly saying not to give the board games to children it reminded me in matilda mrs trunchbull was saying "much to good for children"

  • @alexwesson8703
    @alexwesson8703 3 роки тому +1

    My daughter loves quacks of quedlinburg and quest for el dorado. Both solid family games in my opinion. Definitely going to give stuffed fables a go though! Great list!

  • @toddverstegen6907
    @toddverstegen6907 3 роки тому +1

    My kids have been loving Rhino Hero. Building them up to RH Super Battle.

  • @BlueInkAlchemy
    @BlueInkAlchemy 3 роки тому +4

    I don't even *have* small children and Stuffed Fables had my jaw on the floor. I might just have to add it to my collection because... yeah, everything Adam said.

  • @_Stromboli_
    @_Stromboli_ 3 роки тому +1

    Of course Plumpy loves Lumpy

  • @nobodywantsthethimble
    @nobodywantsthethimble 3 роки тому +3

    For little kids, I often recommend Sneaky Snacky Squirrels as an alternative to Candyland. It teaches color matching like candyland, but also adds a bit of strategy, and I’ve never been annoyed or bored playing it.
    Forbidden Island is a game I recommend for anyone dipping their toe into the hobby. Great fun, good challenge, and best of all, under $20. So you’re not spending a lot of money if you’re not sure if you want to make a huge investment in games.

  • @thebeardedmother1535
    @thebeardedmother1535 3 роки тому +2

    My wife and I are presently going through a renewed interest in board games and keen to see our 4 and 6 year old girls have some fun too.
    Defn some stuff here we'll be checkingout!!
    We've discovered a few gems in recent weeks.
    - Rainbow Unicorns. Super cute and easy to learn. Great for 4-8yo
    - Ramen Fury. Build and slurp three bowls of ramen before your competition. Super game and great for 6+ yo
    - Fairy Season. Beautifully illustrated card game. Great for 6+ yo
    - 5 minute dungeon. Super fun and cooperative game. Goes for.... 5 minutes. Great for 6+ yo
    And last on our list
    - Zombie Kids. Super easy to learn cooperative game. Great for 6+ yo
    Kids games don't have to mean mind-numbing for adults.
    Blessings.

  • @lwoonlef7
    @lwoonlef7 3 роки тому +5

    Amazing list! I have labyrinth and the Harry Potter game and they are really cool! Labyrinth is really good with kids another game that I will recommend is Outfoxed! an awesome deduction game that is really great with kids!

  • @chaosof99
    @chaosof99 3 роки тому +2

    I don't have kids but I have a niece and nephew, and while trying to share board gaming with them I actually played two games on this list with them to huge success: Qwirkle and King of Tokyo. Another game I played with them is Kakerlakenpoker which they also found very entertaining, but that may be because I absolutely suck at that game so that is a bunch of fun for them to watch me lose.

  • @jakeausman1402
    @jakeausman1402 3 роки тому +3

    This became Adam dunking on kids for 12 minutes and I’m here for it

  • @MrMrsBoardGame
    @MrMrsBoardGame 3 роки тому +6

    My Little Scythe! One of our absolute favorites! It's also the first game in our top 10 video. :)

  • @MrJmarzetti
    @MrJmarzetti 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this video. I have two kids just reaching the age where we don't have to play Candy land every time. I've heard of some of these games, but had never seen them in play. And., a few I never heard of.....love that Lumber Jacks one! A couple of games out of .y collection that were easy enough to teach my seven year old and were fun for her are Cockroach Poker and Seikatsu. Can't tell you how proud and then unnerved I was when she creamed me at bluffing! We may try Jixia Academy next.

  • @NanenMauricio
    @NanenMauricio 3 роки тому +11

    4:22 You just had to add that Vince promo there right Adam? You marky mark!

  • @arkonnen7
    @arkonnen7 3 роки тому +2

    Omg i ALWAYS moved as much as i wanted without using "in a straight line" rule in Hey that is my fish!
    and was still a good game.. i now really want to play the correct version

  • @Chris.Jackaman
    @Chris.Jackaman 3 роки тому +1

    My younger cousins that visit every month want to play games that I play with my friends but are a bit too complicated for them. So I got a game that they love and cant stop playing. 13 dead end drive. Amazingly simple and very addicting to want to play again after you win

  • @thelinedrive
    @thelinedrive 3 роки тому +4

    See also Don’t break the Ice as an additional recommendation for a game in the same vein as click clack lumberjack.

  • @TheTreason666
    @TheTreason666 2 роки тому +1

    Mum of 3 here, all the shade you throw at kids hahaha 😝 keep the comedy coming, subbed!

  • @KelJLinton
    @KelJLinton 3 роки тому

    So I'm going to collect all of these (in NZ wish me luck) When my two babies come to stay I can't wait thank you for helping out for the upcoming winter holidays

  • @cgsrtkzsytriul
    @cgsrtkzsytriul 3 роки тому +1

    The funniest and best top 10 Board Games EVER!

  • @luminyam6145
    @luminyam6145 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful video, thank you.

  • @gilesholtby1702
    @gilesholtby1702 3 роки тому +2

    I bought Quirkle and Stuffed Fables after watching this. Good decision

  • @o2Tenka
    @o2Tenka 3 роки тому +1

    When I was a kid, a guy came from USA (I'm peruvian) named Pit, it was amazing, we had a bell and cereals, that's what I remember, also K'nex but Idk if that counts as a board game.

  • @noamtepper456
    @noamtepper456 3 роки тому +3

    Forbidden island is one of my favorite board games ever, it’s so good! Also as someone who paints a lot of miniatures the stuffed fables minis look fucking awesome!

    • @FatherTime89
      @FatherTime89 3 роки тому

      how do you get into painting minis. I have a bunch of unpainted minis in my games but I'm worried I'll permanently mess them up with my 0 experience in painting.

    • @noamtepper456
      @noamtepper456 3 роки тому

      @@FatherTime89 first of all, nothing is permanent, you can always strip a miniature, but I would recommend watching a channel called Goobertown Hobbies, he is considered miniature painting’s Bob Ross, and his videos are wonderful for beginners.

    • @FatherTime89
      @FatherTime89 3 роки тому

      @@noamtepper456 thank you

  • @Funkypanda87
    @Funkypanda87 3 роки тому

    My sister's kids love playing boardgames with me. Their current favourite is Catan, yet just started and enjoying Flashpoint with them

  • @Paper-dust
    @Paper-dust 3 роки тому +7

    How about a list of the 10 best Deckbuilders next? Also the 10 best expansions.

  • @Veggieman87
    @Veggieman87 3 роки тому

    A friend of mine has a couple of lil'uns and they're getting about the age to start playing games! I sent him this as soon as I finished watching!

  • @Graczula
    @Graczula 3 роки тому +2

    My top 5 games which I play with my kids (6 years old and 4 years old) are : Flamme Rouge, Fireball Island, Outfoxed, Ghost Fightin Treasure Hunters! and Horrified :)

  • @Nogardo
    @Nogardo 3 роки тому +1

    I am in my mid 30s and I bloody love King of Tokyo and I bloody would love to play stuffed fables. I gotta get me some kids asap!

    • @avisian8063
      @avisian8063 3 роки тому

      Aaaaaand...... you're on a list

  • @sorceressferaly4026
    @sorceressferaly4026 3 роки тому +2

    I have played a surprising amount of the games on this list without any children (proving they're just as good for adults I suppose), but I'd never heard of Stuffed Fables! Sounds almost like a kid-friendly Mansions of Madness type of game, very interesting! Gotta check that out when I get the opportunity!
    My 8-year old cousin has another game as his favorite though, namely Splendor! Just goes to show how a well-designed simple eurogame can be understood by, and appeal to kids as well!

  • @gamewright
    @gamewright 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the Forbidden Island shout-out!

  • @nobodywantsthethimble
    @nobodywantsthethimble 2 роки тому

    I’m going to additionally recommend A- Bee-C for a “educational” game. You’re rolling letter dice to try to build three letter words to score cards. Fun game that my kids loved and a nice cheap price point.
    For role players, I recommend No Thank You Evil! Very simple system that values imagination and thinking outside the box over mechanics. Plus adding outside material, like your kids’ favorite tv/movie/book characters, is super easy. Mechanics are simple enough that once the kids know how to play, they can run their own games.
    Another fun RPG for kids is Adventure Maximus. Card based setup for character creation, and the campaign can be simply set up with the cards and a mad lib.

  • @BeyondLimitation25
    @BeyondLimitation25 3 роки тому +1

    I saw Stuffed Fables at my local game store, my fiancee and I were both interested, but eventually balked as we looked at other things. As I have a 9 year old girl who's birthday is coming up, I think this might be a good purchase to get her more involved with our board gaming

  • @JustYesNo
    @JustYesNo 3 роки тому

    I recommend Labyrinth with Super Mario them! My nephew is big Mario fan so, I gave him that as a Christmas present. Hi loved it!

  • @Smorrison87
    @Smorrison87 3 роки тому +2

    This channel is superb

  • @paulharries9558
    @paulharries9558 3 роки тому +2

    I wish I had children so I could play Stuffed Fables with them.

    • @JBearwa
      @JBearwa 2 роки тому

      You definitely don’t need children to play stuffed fables

  • @markcarey87
    @markcarey87 3 роки тому

    My four year old loves Hive, Quirkle, Bandido, and Patchwork.

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 3 роки тому +3

    I need stuffed fables
    Immediately

  • @elmerinase5734
    @elmerinase5734 3 роки тому +1

    4:44 THAT IS HEIKKI SILVENNOINEN! HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT BEFORE?! SUOMI PRKL!

  • @JakeJonRoberts
    @JakeJonRoberts 3 роки тому +1

    I bet John Cena loves to play these games with the hungry children. Wabba-do!

    • @brody10123
      @brody10123 3 роки тому +2

      Is that a reference to the John Cena Diary video because that is an ANCIENT reference and I’m all for it

  • @piercefabruada3851
    @piercefabruada3851 3 роки тому

    Hi, there's this new card game called LAGIM. It is a Filipino folklore-inspired game composed of villain deck, lagim cards, lakas cards, and hiwaga cards. Launching soon in kickstarter.

  • @citizenstrife
    @citizenstrife 3 роки тому +2

    "CHILDREN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGH!" My reaction to them in a nutshell.

  • @CRedfield22
    @CRedfield22 3 роки тому

    My eight year old and I play board games for years. Smallworld, takenoko, king of Tokyo/New York, the Island... He's the best, I'm very lucky.

  • @haydengittins2836
    @haydengittins2836 3 роки тому

    My kids love Rush'n'bash. Mario Kart and Wacky Races hybrid as a board game.. yes please

  • @dougfancy101290
    @dougfancy101290 3 роки тому

    I'm not a big fan of complex strategy games but I have friends who are. We found King of Tokyo and it is a fantastic game. My friends love it because of the strategy and I love it because it's not complicated.

  • @ianw0ng
    @ianw0ng 2 роки тому

    thank you. bought some of these games, my kids now hate me more. they are moving out with my wife soon.
    Freeeeeeeedooooomm at last!!

  • @nick-playercharacter8583
    @nick-playercharacter8583 3 роки тому +1

    Here's a recommendation for a future video: Top 10 Tempting Board Games to Avoid. Basically, give warnings on a bunch of board games that sound like they'd be great, but are either bad or have other games that do the same thing much better. Risk is a good example of a game that might sound like a grand adventure but actually is deeply flawed. Also, I can't recommend avoiding Monopoly Gamer enough. Seemed like it might do for Monopoly what Risk Legacy does for Risk, but it's a trap. It has all the same problems that regular Monopoly has if not makes them even worse.

    • @IgyekSam
      @IgyekSam 3 роки тому

      I think it would be quite strange for to make a Collection Starter video about games you shouldn't buy. Maybe if Adam would list off board games to buy instead of the tempting board games, but I wouldn't want the video to focus on the negative things. I love the positivity of this channel

    • @nick-playercharacter8583
      @nick-playercharacter8583 3 роки тому

      @@IgyekSam That's fair.

  • @ishoottheyscore8970
    @ishoottheyscore8970 3 роки тому

    Mental Blocks reminds me a lot of La Boca, though that is played in pairs specifically
    Other family games I'd add would be:
    Camel Up
    Rhino Hero (which I know you've mentioned before)
    Paperback (if they are interested in word games)
    Downforce (for kids about 10 and up)
    Stop Thief
    Small Detectives (pretty much an express version of Cluedo)

  • @TheGamingWard
    @TheGamingWard 3 роки тому +1

    As someone who works retail, the hated of children is something I feel on a spiritual level

    • @Jeffelson
      @Jeffelson 3 роки тому

      Parents are wayyyy worse than children

  • @KaiMoya420
    @KaiMoya420 3 роки тому +1

    Omg Adam absolutely buries children like ive never heard before.

  • @thetomatoist1
    @thetomatoist1 2 роки тому +1

    Bruh I had to pause the video to finish laughing two seconds in oh my word.

  • @jaym1889
    @jaym1889 3 роки тому

    Can any recommend games similar to "the hare and the tortoise"?.. I can't seem to find it anywhere.

  • @Naruedyoh
    @Naruedyoh 3 роки тому +1

    Technically Adam is right, people hate him because he speaks the truth,
    I all seriousness, i don't want any kinds. I'll take care of my friends' kids but don't expect me to like to do it every day

  • @biznesstime83
    @biznesstime83 3 роки тому

    What about some dexterity games? Like RhinoHero Super Battle or Ice Cool. Or even Catacombs vs. Castles
    Otherwise it’s a great list and I have almost all of these and played most with my kids.

  • @Whitebeardcrewmate
    @Whitebeardcrewmate 3 роки тому

    You should do top 10 racing games! Mostly because I just wanna hear you talk about my favorite game Flamme Rouge :)

  • @skinnydog6665
    @skinnydog6665 2 роки тому

    The enchanted tower
    Outfoxed!
    King Tokyo
    Santorini
    Blokus
    Iceschool
    Sheep and Thief
    Those above seem to be ones that had most plays in our house (7-9 yr olds)
    The following all great games but not as many requests to play as those above.
    Barenpark
    The three little pigs
    Pyramid
    Dr Eureka
    Kingdomino
    Animal upon animal
    Forbidden island
    Cubeez

  • @FeyTheBin
    @FeyTheBin 3 роки тому

    You forgot the most family-friendly game of all: Blood on the Clocktower. Fun for the kids.

  • @ryoushi4339
    @ryoushi4339 3 роки тому +1

    Lumpy sounds familiar Adam

  • @danarossa
    @danarossa 2 роки тому

    Lol. When you are older it works the opposite way.
    Where to find game my parents would grasp that is yet interesting enough

  • @GrieferBeyond21
    @GrieferBeyond21 3 роки тому

    During Chinese New Year our family board game is Mahjong...and I have lost so much money to my both of my cousins who are around 8 to 10 years old...

  • @JDizaster
    @JDizaster 3 роки тому

    Suggestion for a future Collection Starter: best licensed games (Hogwarts Battle, Villainous, etc.)

  • @KyleHarrisonRedacted
    @KyleHarrisonRedacted 3 роки тому

    We play in no ranked order: Clue, 13 Dead End Drive, Exploding Kittens, Unstable Unicorns, Pictopia, Jenga, Animal upon Animal, and CAH Family Edition
    I want to bolster family game night with like... all 10 of these suggestions, and espeially Stuffed Fables

  • @TainakaRicchan
    @TainakaRicchan 3 роки тому

    So, my favourite Childhood game was settlers of catan, But maybe I'm just weird.
    I was 9 when it came out, and i saved for weeks to but it at my local supermarket.
    Ahh good times.

  • @braddrcrushalot3785
    @braddrcrushalot3785 3 роки тому +1

    Why do I get the feeling the next first rule of Board Game Club will be, “Children are awful”?

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio4200 3 роки тому

    This video is so much better than the one I watched previously. And not one of the same games is featured.

  • @jordylont1879
    @jordylont1879 3 роки тому +1

    This video peaked 3 seconds in😂

  • @ed_lufc98
    @ed_lufc98 3 роки тому

    Hi. I played Monopoly earlier and I really don't get it because seemingly I'm a tiny dog who repeatedly wins beauty contests, on his birthday demands £10 from everybody he sees, but then bankrupts himself to stay in a hotel when he owns four houses on the next street.
    It makes no sense to me. Seeing as though you're a board game channel, I was wondering if someone would please explain it. Thanks.

  • @Ace_Keira
    @Ace_Keira 3 роки тому +1

    YESSSS! MORE BOARD GAMES! PUT THEM IN MY BRAIN! (also play Cosmic on BGC you cowards :p )

  • @morganrippke7413
    @morganrippke7413 3 роки тому

    So, for the most part, I would agree with this list. However, there are some alternatives that could have been better. I love Hogwarts Battle, but my kid thinks that it is too scary. There exists Toy Story: Obstacles & Adventures, which is a more kid-friendly version of the game and still keeps many of the elements we like from Hogwarts Battle. Also, I'd recommend Forbidden Island's older brother Forbidden Desert. It's less punishing than Forbidden Island (on average), and we tend to like it even without the kids. (Also, Forbidden Sky for when they get older. It has you complete a circuit that has the little rocketship countdown and blast off...very satisfying when/if you win.) Lastly, I agree that Stuffed Fables is a great game, as well. It is similar to another board game, Mice and Mystics, which also has a similar storytelling aspect (and you play as mice akin to Redwall). A good alternative (although I will agree, Stuffed Fables is the better game for kids).

  • @starburst7681
    @starburst7681 2 роки тому

    If you would die for Lumpy, don't play It Takes Two

  • @Palpi301
    @Palpi301 3 роки тому

    Plumpy & Lumpy Connection

  • @tobiasfikkert2241
    @tobiasfikkert2241 Рік тому

    No Dixit on this list?... I think Dixit is one of those games everbody can play. Because it has no text at all, reading is not required and kids tend to have a very good imagination. Also older people could like it because there is so little down time. Each turn everybody is engaged in the game.

  • @dylanogg347
    @dylanogg347 2 роки тому +1

    Did a kid kill Bingli?

  • @IcyNaomi
    @IcyNaomi 3 роки тому

    Forbidden desert is better! The sun beats down!

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio4200 2 місяці тому

    Click! Clack! Lumberjack seems to be permanently out of stock.

  • @Daggerleep
    @Daggerleep 3 роки тому

    You got The hare and the tortoise rules wrong. The animals move when 4 of one animal have been played or 8 animal cards total have been played.

    • @NoRollsBarred
      @NoRollsBarred  3 роки тому +3

      ADAM: I'VE BEEN PLAYING IT WRONG FOR YEARS

  • @MattTheSpratt
    @MattTheSpratt Рік тому +1

    I would argue that this is 9 Great Family Games having to awkwardly share space with a deck-building game that won't stop slagging off trans people.

  • @gamesdisk
    @gamesdisk 3 роки тому

    the problem with king of toyko is that the best tatic is just to got for vp on the dice rolls

  • @lukeochoa3450
    @lukeochoa3450 3 роки тому

    We’re DEMANDING BLAIR’S TOP 10 BOARD GAMES

  • @briang341
    @briang341 3 роки тому +1

    did you make this list just to dunk on kids? be honest

  • @boardgamebordello5463
    @boardgamebordello5463 3 роки тому +1

    I get you're trying to be funny but maybe don't do a video about kid's games if you hate them so much.