Thank you so much Tony! This is exactly the review I was looking for. The new Nikkor lens is pricy but apparently based on your review and others, it's a huge leap forward. So glad I waited for this lens! Thumbs UP as always! Feeling better about my Z6 and Z7 - pulled the trigger on this one.
I'm a z6 shooter but sony make some great glass. Look at their sonys 20mm 1.8g compared to z 20mm 1.8 The sony is sharper, faster focusing, smaller, less chromatic aberration and cheaper..
@@Noksus very true. But I think when Sony updates the trinity it will be superior. (Also sony has linear motors) But I really like the feel of 85mm 1.8s. Feels really solid
They "finally" released a 24-70mm f/2.8 for the Z mount? Weren't the Z6 and Z7 only released in late 2018? I don't know how long it took Sony or Canon to release their full frame 24-70mm f/2.8 mirrorless lenses, but I get the impression that Nikon had a fairly quick turnaround time compared to its competitors. Then again, I may be mistaken, but that is my impression as a Nikon and Sony mirrorless (and DSLR in Nikon's case) full frame (and APS-C in Sony's case) camera consumer.
I love my Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 and I just can't imagine life without it. My biggest problem with the mirrorless is the price... I can get the same shots on my Dslr at a cheaper price and when I am working it keeps production costs down. I can't see any advantage to going mirrorless other than weight.
The lens is amazing. Feels so much better than the DSLR version with an adapter on the camera, much better balanced and seems a lot sharper even though that older lens is awesome. Now I'm waiting for 100-400mm. I'm hoping it will mean I don't need to get the 70-200mm.
Why no mention, or test, of the excellent and widely acclaimed Tamron 28-75mm F2.8? It's A THIRD the price of this Z-mount Nikon and way cheaper than the Sony and Canon lenses too, but a very strong contender, nevertheless! And Tony - didn't you just tell us - based on some brutally hard evidence - that the Nikon Z-mount is not looking like a very safe investment for the future and may not be around at all in a few years time? Maybe that's a consideration viewers of this review should take into account!
Great hat choice! Thanks for the comparisons. Choosing between Nikon and Sony mirrorless cameras right now (still love my Nikon D750) and comparing bodies and glass options. Go Irish!
I’ve tried the sony amd the nikon. The difference in focusing is noticeable in favor of the sony. But I got a Z6 and I LOOOOOOVE IT! It can do what the sony can, and just a little bit more. Better video potential if you wish to get into that world. Stills ,for me, are a touch better with nikon (I know it’s more of a personal perception, differences are su subtle that it comes down to what you like more). Build quality, nikon. Menus are far more rational with nikon. Sony really need to reorganize their menu. If you are used to it, great. If not, you’ll be more confy with nikon in less time. Get any and you’ll be happy. Get the nikon and for sure you’re getting top product with planned firmware updates that will keep adding and improving focusing.
@@aguadoia Thanks for your comment. I just missed the one day Nikon sale when I could get Nikon Z6 + 24-70 f4 +FTZ for 3000 AUD. The price went back to 3.6k now. Fingers crossed it will happen around Christmas. The eye focus seems a little off with Nikon, but I am okay with that and Nikon might improve that with FW upgrade in the future.
It’s a stellar lens. Absolutely amazing. Wish Nikon released it along with the Z6 with two card slots... because the Z system cameras and lenses are great and they don’t deserve the beating they got in the beginning. Hope it all turns around with the release of this lens and 70-200 2.8. Can’t wait.
Jaime Duncan coming from D750 that has great af except video, I don’t see any flaws. You have to learn it, it works a little different, but it works for stills and video. And the new eye af never missed so far for me.
@@piotrsobocinski3938 ..Really??Hmm...I would say thaT 17 RECALLS IS not TAKING CARE OF THE CONSUMER,FROM A COMPANY...Now if the truth tastes bad,it just does...This has nothing to do with the glass empty nor full,it has to do with quality control...
Why no comparison with the Canon RF 28-70 f2? I know it's 28 and not 24, and the comparison is between the 24-70 ones. But canon has a similar lens in their lineup and getting a bit of a mention and slight comparison would have been way better for informing your viewers
DeletedDelusion I understand that, and know it's not a apples to apples comparison, 28mm and like literally 1k more. I would have just liked a bit of a mention as it's also a lens that can be a replacement to a 28-70
I would like to have a simple control that has been available to some of us since ages ago: constant EV exposure control. It benefits "manual" exposure setting in available light. I could set exposure at an exposure value, say 1/125th with f/8 and rotate to 1/30th with f/16 or /500th with f/4 - each combination has the same exposure value as the other. I had hoped this could be assigned to the lens control ring or the F1/F2 buttons, read the flipping manual of Z7 and 24..70/2.8S, to ill effect. Did I miss this or should it be a feature request to Nikonsan?
Hey Tony. Nice comparisons! Though I shoot Fuji currently, I am seriously considering selling my Fuji gear and moving to FF, either the Nikon Z7 or the Sony a7Rlll. Question please...I understand that the Nikkkor S 24-70 f/4 is also considered quite sharp. Since I shoot landscapes and products at optimum apertures, I never shoot wide open, so don't require the faster 2.8 aperture. How does the Nikkor S 24-70 f/2.8 compare to the Nikkor S 24-70 f/4 at f/8 in terms of sharpness? Thanks!
I'm in a similar situation with you. I shoot landscapes with my X-T2, 10-24 f4, 16-55 f2.8, 50-140 f2.8 and rokinon 12mm f2 and now I'm looking at the Z6 with a few lenses as an option for the future. The 24-70 f2.8 is a lot more money but I'd like to use it for milky way photography but if the image quality is the same as the f4 version perhaps I'm better off getting that lens and maybe a fast wide angle prime instead.
@@WarKrieg what was not nice about that request?do you even read or what? and FYI,he is not doing this for free. i am just suggesting a topic for his future videos. and also,this is not the first time i asked him to review it. don't act too smart.
The size different is amazing! I’m a canon shooter and that’s what I’m expecting from new technology. I love how the new mirrorless cameras are small but I want to see the lenses and specially the 24-70 f2.8 getting an IS and SMALLER. Great video
People need to start buying more Nikon z cameras than Sony Mirrorless cameras. I was using the sony a6400 until a few months back and switched to a z50 recently. Honestly these z cameras and the Z mount lenses are simply too good for the price. Z50 may not have as many features as a6400 for video and stuff. But honestly you can always have such features by tweaking things around a bit and may be spending a few bucks on accessories. More people need to buy Nikon Camera. Optically these are really good and I am honestly in love with them.
Honestly, other than the Canon EF I don't see how the "so much sharper" difference visible to my eyes. You can say the Nikon is slightly sharper than the sony yes but you'll need to stare it to tell the difference with so much zoom. Although the Canon is visibly sharper, without zooming so much the picture probably won't tell a huge difference. They're all just as sharp for anyone in any system I feel.
Странно, виньетирование оказалось очень сильным, при таком большом увеличении размеров задней линзы. Oddly, the vignetting was very strong with this large magnification of the rear lens.
Jaeger Schtulmann ... and weighs twice as much as the Nikkor. f1.2 lenses are coming on the Nikon and the f1.8 lenses are sharper and better controlled than the older f1.4 lenses stopped down to f1.8. This allows for lighter weight and lower pricing. The Z 50mm 1.8 S is one of the sharpest 50mm lenses ever made, right up there with the Otus - and it’s currently on sale for £329!
@@radeknazwisko9180 yeah cause it weighs 3 lbs ... hahahaa . nobody wants a lens that big for everyday workflow and the 3k price tag.. big advantage to nikon for making lens smaller
Not sure why, DSLR cameras are mirrorless if you shoot with the mirror up or in delayed mode. Mirrorless cameras negative has been the EVF and electronic shutter effect on the battery life. Design could be just like a DSLR but to make sales, give the ppl what they want, smaller lighter cameras. I'm loving the XPro3 but hate the ergonomics, would need to add a grip.
@@dct124 The battery life on my z6 far exceeds the rated 310 shots. Yes, it's a bit worse than my d750, but for the fact that the camera is constantly using power to show me my exposure before I take the shot vs just the mirror with a light meter...the z6 crushes it. Might be getting a z7 just to utilise all the great nikon glass in all its glory.
@@dct124 I went to a camera store recently and tried every mirrorless camera they had...Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Fugi, etc...The Nikon Z cameras had the most amazing viewfinder out of all of them...almost as if I were looking through a DSLR.. So clear and crisp.
@@jeffpeterson5528 that's what I did. The Z 50 EVF is like looking through one of those old magnifying glasses editors used on contact sheets. I won't be getting a Mirrorless camera until they can get the batteries correct. I got a age 4 battery in my D3s and it still got more images than the Z 50 while shooting RAW and I mainly used the EVF for everything on the Z 50. I turned down all the setting like timers for playback, menus, review, etc. I completely turned off the LCD and never got over 400 RAW imgs on a single charge. Now jpg I got at least 900, RAW + jpg was about 350. I personally loved that Z 50. I like the X-T3 but I'd need a grip same for all the other brands except Canon, if there was a way to get rid of that weird plastic spoon feel I'd go with Canon since my partner uses Canon.
@@v3Potato I never got over 400 shooting RAW + jpg or RAW only. The only time I did was when I was shooting jpg L, Optimal Quality, Fine. Those settings put me around 900 imgs. I'm most likey going to get a Z camera again mainly for the lenses. I'm just not sold on the Z6/Z7 or Z 50 (other reason) for my needs. I like my D3s, 4000 imgs, never had a cramp, no eye strain (I have 20/15 vision), no rolling shutter to worry about. That slight bit of lag from all EVF cameras is frustrating for me.
The new Canon 24-70 2.8 RF is out and should be available to purchase soon. Can you compare them 1vs1 with the Nikon S ? Thats what most people will be watching and looking for :)
06:19 its like DT 24 70 SAM is sharper than nikon? or just because missed focus? and i dont know which is correct, lightroom says DT lens but is it canon lens sharper at 70mm?
Did you happen to test the 24-70 VR on a d850 compared to the 24-70 S on a Z camera? Curious how your tests would stack up without the adapter for sharpness, etc as I’ve been getting awesome results on my DSLR d850 and 24-70 VR combo. Thanks for all you guys do!
i dont think i ever seen you this excited for nikon after you bashed them for their lens lineup..... especially after you bought the new canon mirrorless.... regardless.... i am happy to know ... that you found something by nikon that works..... thank you for giving an honest review .... especially for us nikon users.....
Hey Tony, Thinking of getting a Z6, want to get a few primes and not sure if I should go with the Nikon 85 1.4 and Nikon 35 1.4 and use the adapter, or go with the 85 and 35 Z lenses even though they are a bit slower. Thoughts?
I was ready to get super-offended if you criticised the new lens I just bought, but you said nice stuff, so now I feel super justified in buying it (and a little bit superior).
The Nikon z lenses are way smaller than the Gmaster and produce better images, awesome. I already envied the Nikon community for the Z 14-30 f4,... Finally Nikon doing something right.
Bomber The Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 is for APS-C sensor bodies. It is comparable to Canon’s RF 28-70mm f/2L USM lens for the full frame EOS R mirrorless body.
@@DGBomber The Sigma or third party lenses will always be the better value for the same price. Unlike the first party, they cover many of the ecosystem in the market. Mass market usually means cheaper. The other reason why the 18-35 is one of its kind, because it's very hard to make fast zoom lens without making it impractical. If that 18-35 were meant for FF sensor, it will be larger. The 24-35 f2 for FF quite explains. With the mirrorless boom, perhaps Sigma could remake the 18-35 as a lighter lens, making it faster, or refine its AF; I had one sold it due to its reliability.
Interesting video. I was considering jettisoning my Canon 24-70 for the Tamron 28-75 but now I think I'll keep it. For some reason, I thought in an older video you had warned us that wide angle lenses adapted to Sony were soft in the corners, but this test seems to indicate otherwise.
Sorry Carol but the Tamron is not at all in the same class with significant softness outside the DX circle, significant roasting and flare, much greater lateral chromatic aberration and much less width in focal length. In fact, the Nikon S 24-70 f/4 is a much better performing lens.
No. IMO Tamron still can’t measure up to the others. I bought a new Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 last year after hearing all of the hype and reviews. It back focused so bad that I returned it and bought the Nikon, which is amazing.
The Sony 24-70/2.8 isn't too impressive. I consider it their worst GM lens by a fair margin. All the others are good to great, but for some reason their 24-70 is just mediocre while still costing a PREMIUM. I'd rather recommend people to get the Tamron pair 17-28/2.8 and 28-75/2.8 - that's a nice travel/wedding setup and they're also smaller & lighter which my back would thank me for.
This comparison is questionable. Why are we comparing the Canon EF lens for DSLRs, instead of the Canon RF lens for the Canon EOS R mirrorless body? The Canon EF lens is several years old, and they have released an upgrade for the RF mount.
J.T. I’m sorry. I missed that claim, and I have watched it three times. In fact, he compared several lenses on their native bodies. Nikon introduces a new lens after Canon introduces a new lens. But, he compares the new Nikon against the much older Canon. BTW, did you notice toward the end that he conceded the Canon was easily the sharpest lens out of all? He claimed he mounted the Canon lens on a Sony body “to match the megapixels.” He could have used the Canon EOS RP if that were the case.
Is it possible to adjust the focus direction on Z mount Cameras? The one and only reason I skip considering Nikon cameras and lenses is just that. Can it be done on these newer bodies?
yes those Nikon S line lenses are so much more sharper that older G line at Z cameras, i made 50mm f1.8 G vs 50mm f1.8 S competition at my Z6 and that new S line 50mm give so much more bright,colourfull and really much sharper photos
@@itsacookie1 i have D850 too and yes with my older version without VR 24-70 f2,8 i get sharp images, only reason not have VR at lens or camera, cant goes so down at shutterspeed without loosing sharpness,but i not test how that 50mm f1.8 G with D850 vs 50mm S-line at Z6, need try someday👍and look difference
The 50mm G line is also about a third of the price of the S lens. I guess the Sigma 50mm f1.4 vs Nikon 50mm 1.8 S lens would be a better comparison becuase they cost about the same.
This is testing the lenses to a extremist of test. But for work or hobby shooters any od this lenses are just fantastic hard to se any difference in real life shooting. Great to be entertained by your excellent comparation tony!
Here's what I don't understand. Nikon increased the flange diameter and it was implied that this design change was for faster glass. Why isn't the 24-70 a 1.8? On a relevant note, where is the fast glass that Nikon promised?
I use that lens with my Z7 regularly and found it to be a lot sharper than the F mount Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 I got back in 2008 and used to shoot many weddings. I recently upgraded my Z7 for eye detection and it seems to be even better under lower lighting conditions. I’m retired but surely would recommend this lens with the Z6 for professionals in that business.
Tony probably used a Canon EOS R to make the video. The Nikon Z sells for far more than the Canon R. Canon has introduced a 28-70mm f/2L for the RF mirrorless mount, which I am sure Tony does not to touch. The seven year old Canon is still sharper than the latest offerings from Sony and Nikon. Imagine how Canon’s latest lens would have compared.
Is this something you can compare to the 3rd party 2.8's out there. The Tamron for instance due to price difference, how much are we loosing in overall quality? This is important for us enthusiast that do not have an arm and leg to spend on lenses.
Thank you so much Tony! This is exactly the review I was looking for. The new Nikkor lens is pricy but apparently based on your review and others, it's a huge leap forward. So glad I waited for this lens! Thumbs UP as always! Feeling better about my Z6 and Z7 - pulled the trigger on this one.
Firmware 3.0 should make you feel better too.
Everyone’s screaming ”Glass is the most important” and yet no one cares about Nikon when they have the best lens.
I'm a z6 shooter but sony make some great glass. Look at their sonys 20mm 1.8g compared to z 20mm 1.8
The sony is sharper, faster focusing, smaller, less chromatic aberration and cheaper..
@@danniel0143 But Nikon's workhorse lenses are better than Sony's. Meaning 14-24, 24-70, 70-200. That's the lenses that matter.
@@Noksus very true. But I think when Sony updates the trinity it will be superior. (Also sony has linear motors)
But I really like the feel of 85mm 1.8s. Feels really solid
@@danniel0143 I seriously doubt they can make better zooms with a mount diameter barely larger than the F-mount. I guess we'll see.
@@Noksus yeah. After sonys 50mm 1.2, I can imagine everything
Nikon always has the best contrast.
They "finally" released a 24-70mm f/2.8 for the Z mount? Weren't the Z6 and Z7 only released in late 2018? I don't know how long it took Sony or Canon to release their full frame 24-70mm f/2.8 mirrorless lenses, but I get the impression that Nikon had a fairly quick turnaround time compared to its competitors. Then again, I may be mistaken, but that is my impression as a Nikon and Sony mirrorless (and DSLR in Nikon's case) full frame (and APS-C in Sony's case) camera consumer.
2:48 focal length display is useful to read more precise and also night time reading comes in handy at the dark
I love my Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 and I just can't imagine life without it. My biggest problem with the mirrorless is the price... I can get the same shots on my Dslr at a cheaper price and when I am working it keeps production costs down. I can't see any advantage to going mirrorless other than weight.
i'm so nervous that you'll drop one of those lenses right in the beginning!
I'm happy with Tamron 28-75 which leaves me enough budget to buy a 24GM.
My search was how to speak Mandarin, and this video was recommended...close enough!
Ni kon ma? Hahaha
Well if you're not into cameras, it probably sounds like Mandarin ...
Nikon is Japanese and Japanese use Kanji and Kanji is adapted Chinese characters. So ya I agree, close enough
What about a redo of the Z system after to firmware update? You gave them a failing grade when launched and never did a redo since 🤷🏾♂️
Ignore him, their opinion doesn't matter Z System is great
Amazing! :D Can you also test the 24-70 f/4 S vs the 2.8 S? TIA, cheers
that would be a good test to see if its worth trading in and upgrading
The lens is amazing. Feels so much better than the DSLR version with an adapter on the camera, much better balanced and seems a lot sharper even though that older lens is awesome. Now I'm waiting for 100-400mm. I'm hoping it will mean I don't need to get the 70-200mm.
Why no mention, or test, of the excellent and widely acclaimed Tamron 28-75mm F2.8? It's A THIRD the price of this Z-mount Nikon and way cheaper than the Sony and Canon lenses too, but a very strong contender, nevertheless! And Tony - didn't you just tell us - based on some brutally hard evidence - that the Nikon Z-mount is not looking like a very safe investment for the future and may not be around at all in a few years time? Maybe that's a consideration viewers of this review should take into account!
Great hat choice! Thanks for the comparisons. Choosing between Nikon and Sony mirrorless cameras right now (still love my Nikon D750) and comparing bodies and glass options. Go Irish!
Would be great to see how the new Canon RF 28-70 compares!
"It's just a button."
I dunno why, but I found that so funny; probably cause it perfectly encapsulated how I feel about it. 😂
That is it. I am buying the Z6 with 24-70mm f2.8 S. Take my money, Nikon. Thank you for pushing me over the edge, Tony.
Get me one too thanks
Without a reliable eye AF everything is nothing. Get a Sony and be happy
@@hagentrondheim3675 here comes the Sony cartel.
I’ve tried the sony amd the nikon. The difference in focusing is noticeable in favor of the sony. But I got a Z6 and I LOOOOOOVE IT! It can do what the sony can, and just a little bit more. Better video potential if you wish to get into that world. Stills ,for me, are a touch better with nikon (I know it’s more of a personal perception, differences are su subtle that it comes down to what you like more). Build quality, nikon. Menus are far more rational with nikon. Sony really need to reorganize their menu. If you are used to it, great. If not, you’ll be more confy with nikon in less time. Get any and you’ll be happy. Get the nikon and for sure you’re getting top product with planned firmware updates that will keep adding and improving focusing.
@@aguadoia Thanks for your comment. I just missed the one day Nikon sale when I could get Nikon Z6 + 24-70 f4 +FTZ for 3000 AUD. The price went back to 3.6k now. Fingers crossed it will happen around Christmas. The eye focus seems a little off with Nikon, but I am okay with that and Nikon might improve that with FW upgrade in the future.
Can you test it against the Canon RF 24-70
I'm very interested in such comparison too.
why you didint compare with the 28 70 2.8 rf lens? to compare same system? id like to see that review , same system
he used the Sony camera to test to Canon lens to match mega pixels. Just one of the reasons.
why at the 4:48 marker looking at the dummy eye didnt you mention the lack of sharpness to the right? Is that not important in this test?
well he did this half heartedly, it troubles him too much to say Nikon is good
how about rf 28-70?
This needs an update to include the Canon RF 24-70/2.8L. I’m curious how that compares to the Nikon Z.
It’s a stellar lens. Absolutely amazing.
Wish Nikon released it along with the Z6 with two card slots... because the Z system cameras and lenses are great and they don’t deserve the beating they got in the beginning. Hope it all turns around with the release of this lens and 70-200 2.8. Can’t wait.
Piotr Sobocinski they were missing a lot, even today they gave subpar autofocus. I will admit that nowadays there are a very good portrait machines.
Jaime Duncan coming from D750 that has great af except video, I don’t see any flaws. You have to learn it, it works a little different, but it works for stills and video. And the new eye af never missed so far for me.
it might work great after you check to see if the body/battery are part of the recalls...
michael s and the glass is always half empty right? 😉
Glad to see a company that does that openly and takes care of customers.
@@piotrsobocinski3938 ..Really??Hmm...I would say thaT 17 RECALLS IS not TAKING CARE OF THE CONSUMER,FROM A COMPANY...Now if the truth tastes bad,it just does...This has nothing to do with the glass empty nor full,it has to do with quality control...
Can you do a review of nikons 35mm 1.8 Z Lens VS Sigma 35mm 1.4
Why no comparison with the Canon RF 28-70 f2? I know it's 28 and not 24, and the comparison is between the 24-70 ones. But canon has a similar lens in their lineup and getting a bit of a mention and slight comparison would have been way better for informing your viewers
28mm
But the 28-70 f2 is also in another price class. It isn't apples to apples when one lens costs significantly more.
DeletedDelusion I understand that, and know it's not a apples to apples comparison, 28mm and like literally 1k more. I would have just liked a bit of a mention as it's also a lens that can be a replacement to a 28-70
@@pronoP2 it's good that you understand your mistake. Take care!
Can i use this lens with sony camera???
I would like to have a simple control that has been available to some of us since ages ago: constant EV exposure control. It benefits "manual" exposure setting in available light. I could set exposure at an exposure value, say 1/125th with f/8 and rotate to 1/30th with f/16 or /500th with f/4 - each combination has the same exposure value as the other. I had hoped this could be assigned to the lens control ring or the F1/F2 buttons, read the flipping manual of Z7 and 24..70/2.8S, to ill effect. Did I miss this or should it be a feature request to Nikonsan?
Hey Tony. Nice comparisons! Though I shoot Fuji currently, I am seriously considering selling my Fuji gear and moving to FF, either the Nikon Z7 or the Sony a7Rlll. Question please...I understand that the Nikkkor S 24-70 f/4 is also considered quite sharp. Since I shoot landscapes and products at optimum apertures, I never shoot wide open, so don't require the faster 2.8 aperture. How does the Nikkor S 24-70 f/2.8 compare to the Nikkor S 24-70 f/4 at f/8 in terms of sharpness? Thanks!
I'm in a similar situation with you. I shoot landscapes with my X-T2, 10-24 f4, 16-55 f2.8, 50-140 f2.8 and rokinon 12mm f2 and now I'm looking at the Z6 with a few lenses as an option for the future. The 24-70 f2.8 is a lot more money but I'd like to use it for milky way photography but if the image quality is the same as the f4 version perhaps I'm better off getting that lens and maybe a fast wide angle prime instead.
Can’t wait to see what Tamron does for Z Mount now... just imagine, great quality at half the prices.
I shoot all Tamron and am waiting for them to start making lenses for the Z mount.
Tamron quickly released a firmware update that could be done using the TAP IN adapter, problem solved.
WHY ARE YOU NOT REVIEWING THE POPULAR TAMRON 28-75 F2.8 LENS FOR SONY?IT IS SHARPER THAN G MASTER IN SOME SCENARIOS AND WAY CHEAPER.
@@WarKrieg what was not nice about that request?do you even read or what? and FYI,he is not doing this for free. i am just suggesting a topic for his future videos. and also,this is not the first time i asked him to review it. don't act too smart.
The size different is amazing! I’m a canon shooter and that’s what I’m expecting from new technology. I love how the new mirrorless cameras are small but I want to see the lenses and specially the 24-70 f2.8 getting an IS and SMALLER. Great video
it's 2021 nikon has finally given me the dual card slots and a functional battery grip. i will now be switching to mirrorless
How do they compare to new Lumix L mount lenses?
Hi tony..
How does this compare with a 24-70 f4 S lens . can u make a video In ur way? Backlighting sharpness lowlight AF etc
People need to start buying more Nikon z cameras than Sony Mirrorless cameras. I was using the sony a6400 until a few months back and switched to a z50 recently. Honestly these z cameras and the Z mount lenses are simply too good for the price. Z50 may not have as many features as a6400 for video and stuff. But honestly you can always have such features by tweaking things around a bit and may be spending a few bucks on accessories. More people need to buy Nikon Camera. Optically these are really good and I am honestly in love with them.
am i the only one who likes far focusing distance? you can get the whole head at minimum focus and super bokeh even with an f4 lens....
I'd like to see how these lenses compare to the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 G2 and the Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 ART. Third party lenses also exist!
Thank you Tony. Great review, I was losing faith in ya brother. Thank you
Honestly, other than the Canon EF I don't see how the "so much sharper" difference visible to my eyes. You can say the Nikon is slightly sharper than the sony yes but you'll need to stare it to tell the difference with so much zoom. Although the Canon is visibly sharper, without zooming so much the picture probably won't tell a huge difference. They're all just as sharp for anyone in any system I feel.
Странно, виньетирование оказалось очень сильным, при таком большом увеличении размеров задней линзы.
Oddly, the vignetting was very strong with this large magnification of the rear lens.
This is great news! Nikon needs some wins!
Jaeger Schtulmann ... and weighs twice as much as the Nikkor.
f1.2 lenses are coming on the Nikon and the f1.8 lenses are sharper and better controlled than the older f1.4 lenses stopped down to f1.8.
This allows for lighter weight and lower pricing.
The Z 50mm 1.8 S is one of the sharpest 50mm lenses ever made, right up there with the Otus - and it’s currently on sale for £329!
Also test them on their own brand bodies .. how does sony GM fair against nikon G 24-70
Shouldn't we be putting the RF 28-70mm F2.0 in this line up?
NO! Why would we equally test new equipment vs other new equipment! Ridiculous!!
It’s not a 24-70 f2.8. That comes out later this year so he went with the previous model
Rf 28-70 crushes all this lenses..
@@radeknazwisko9180 yeah cause it weighs 3 lbs ... hahahaa . nobody wants a lens that big for everyday workflow and the 3k price tag.. big advantage to nikon for making lens smaller
Remember the days when people didn’t think mirrorless would catch on and how it would suck so much
Not sure why, DSLR cameras are mirrorless if you shoot with the mirror up or in delayed mode.
Mirrorless cameras negative has been the EVF and electronic shutter effect on the battery life. Design could be just like a DSLR but to make sales, give the ppl what they want, smaller lighter cameras.
I'm loving the XPro3 but hate the ergonomics, would need to add a grip.
@@dct124 The battery life on my z6 far exceeds the rated 310 shots. Yes, it's a bit worse than my d750, but for the fact that the camera is constantly using power to show me my exposure before I take the shot vs just the mirror with a light meter...the z6 crushes it. Might be getting a z7 just to utilise all the great nikon glass in all its glory.
@@dct124 I went to a camera store recently and tried every mirrorless camera they had...Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic, Fugi, etc...The Nikon Z cameras had the most amazing viewfinder out of all of them...almost as if I were looking through a DSLR.. So clear and crisp.
@@jeffpeterson5528 that's what I did. The Z 50 EVF is like looking through one of those old magnifying glasses editors used on contact sheets.
I won't be getting a Mirrorless camera until they can get the batteries correct. I got a age 4 battery in my D3s and it still got more images than the Z 50 while shooting RAW and I mainly used the EVF for everything on the Z 50. I turned down all the setting like timers for playback, menus, review, etc. I completely turned off the LCD and never got over 400 RAW imgs on a single charge. Now jpg I got at least 900, RAW + jpg was about 350.
I personally loved that Z 50. I like the X-T3 but I'd need a grip same for all the other brands except Canon, if there was a way to get rid of that weird plastic spoon feel I'd go with Canon since my partner uses Canon.
@@v3Potato I never got over 400 shooting RAW + jpg or RAW only. The only time I did was when I was shooting jpg L, Optimal Quality, Fine. Those settings put me around 900 imgs.
I'm most likey going to get a Z camera again mainly for the lenses. I'm just not sold on the Z6/Z7 or Z 50 (other reason) for my needs. I like my D3s, 4000 imgs, never had a cramp, no eye strain (I have 20/15 vision), no rolling shutter to worry about. That slight bit of lag from all EVF cameras is frustrating for me.
Wouldnt it have been fair to also compare it with the 24-70 f2.8G (non vr) nikon? Since the stabilization would solely be in body?
Yes! Currently using the non vr 24-70mm on my Z6 and would like to see if it's worth upgrading considering the price tag on the new s series
The new Canon 24-70 2.8 RF is out and should be available to purchase soon. Can you compare them 1vs1 with the Nikon S ? Thats what most people will be watching and looking for :)
Love my 24-70 f2.8Lii and this I switched to. canon and still use it daily in studio
06:19 its like DT 24 70 SAM is sharper than nikon? or just because missed focus? and i dont know which is correct, lightroom says DT lens but is it canon lens sharper at 70mm?
If you say Nikon is in so much trouble, when will the price come down?
the old ef 2470L ii is so sharp
Fair comparison would have been with RF 24-70 and not EF
LOL. Did you finally take a minute to figure out how to use the new Z focus system?
exactly,,while having to check on those recalls..
Did you happen to test the 24-70 VR on a d850 compared to the 24-70 S on a Z camera? Curious how your tests would stack up without the adapter for sharpness, etc as I’ve been getting awesome results on my DSLR d850 and 24-70 VR combo. Thanks for all you guys do!
moo dude was just curious about a side by side comparison. Not making any statements or assumptions just curious...
How about Canon 24-70 2.8 RF ?
Hiiiii tony I have canon m50 and I just wont to upgrade my camera so can I bay 5d mark 4 or canon eos R and I am bigner videographer
If you have the canon m50 you'll have to get new lenses anyway, so don't necessarily just look at canon bodies
Wow great info! Great info about stabilized lenses vs IBS and everything else
Is there a video that compares just the f4 vs the f mount nikon 24 70 g no stabilisation
i dont think i ever seen you this excited for nikon after you bashed them for their lens lineup..... especially after you bought the new canon mirrorless.... regardless.... i am happy to know ... that you found something by nikon that works..... thank you for giving an honest review .... especially for us nikon users.....
Hey Tony, Thinking of getting a Z6, want to get a few primes and not sure if I should go with the Nikon 85 1.4 and Nikon 35 1.4 and use the adapter, or go with the 85 and 35 Z lenses even though they are a bit slower. Thoughts?
nicola aloisio I’m thinking about getting a z6 myself but I hear it has autofocus issues. Did you get it yet?
@@Xanarkhan Get the 1.8 they are amazing!
And what `bout comparison 70-200 lences ?
I was ready to get super-offended if you criticised the new lens I just bought, but you said nice stuff, so now I feel super justified in buying it (and a little bit superior).
Guys wait till the Canon RF 24-70 f2.8L IS comes.. You'll see why Canon is still the king..
Really appreciate your testing. The backlit situation is so much more important than the pointless standard resolution chart test. You nailed it.
ISO 50 is not the best to use, because base ISO in most cameras is 100 ISO. Going to 50 can block up highlights. Bad to test with.
And why no Sigma on the Sony? It's actually the most interesting lens.
I was about ask the same. As aside from typically having just slightly slower autofocus they tend to be better than sony native lenses.
$3,600 it would want to be freaking good 💰
Wait, what!?
It is 2300 USD, same price when the e lens first came out. Much cheaper than the FL version.
Aki Sasaki $3,600 in Australia.
@@aussie8114 Yes we Aussie photographers are paying a fortune for camera gear thanks to the awful drop in our dollar compared to the US.
Terry Cullinane But we earn a fortune though... NOT 😂
I have the Sony 24-70 2.8 GM and it's my workhorse lens. I love it. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a newer GM2 version.
If i use this lens with sony a7riv. Which mount i use???
The Nikon z lenses are way smaller than the Gmaster and produce better images, awesome.
I already envied the Nikon community for the Z 14-30 f4,...
Finally Nikon doing something right.
The Tamron 28-75 F/2.8 should be in the mix too.. it’s dope
I was but why not compare it with the Canon RF 24-70/2,8 L IS USM
... wait when was this made? oh summer 2019... xD
My dream lens right now is a Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 version for mirrorless, something like a 16-45mm f/2 would be perfect
Bomber The Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 is for APS-C sensor bodies. It is comparable to Canon’s RF 28-70mm f/2L USM lens for the full frame EOS R mirrorless body.
@@thesharpercoder I know, that's exactly why I want it. APSC mirrorless need an high quality zoom at a good price.
@@DGBomber The Sigma or third party lenses will always be the better value for the same price. Unlike the first party, they cover many of the ecosystem in the market. Mass market usually means cheaper.
The other reason why the 18-35 is one of its kind, because it's very hard to make fast zoom lens without making it impractical. If that 18-35 were meant for FF sensor, it will be larger. The 24-35 f2 for FF quite explains.
With the mirrorless boom, perhaps Sigma could remake the 18-35 as a lighter lens, making it faster, or refine its AF; I had one sold it due to its reliability.
@@kikipratama1 that's exactly what I hope :)
Great video, well done and as always mercilessly honest and super personable.
The only Nikon lens I have is the 14-24 and it is one of my favorite lenses. Good for Nikon this vid
Interesting video. I was considering jettisoning my Canon 24-70 for the Tamron 28-75 but now I think I'll keep it. For some reason, I thought in an older video you had warned us that wide angle lenses adapted to Sony were soft in the corners, but this test seems to indicate otherwise.
Thanks for the update...
Tamron 28-75 for E-mount should be a better competitor
Sorry Carol but the Tamron is not at all in the same class with significant softness outside the DX circle, significant roasting and flare, much greater lateral chromatic aberration and much less width in focal length. In fact, the Nikon S 24-70 f/4 is a much better performing lens.
No. IMO Tamron still can’t measure up to the others. I bought a new Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 last year after hearing all of the hype and reviews. It back focused so bad that I returned it and bought the Nikon, which is amazing.
The Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II USM is still the sharpest 24-70 lens
Which becomes completely irrelevant in any complex lighting situation.
@@xandr13 why should a "complex lighting situation" have any influence on lens resolution??
The Sony 24-70/2.8 isn't too impressive. I consider it their worst GM lens by a fair margin. All the others are good to great, but for some reason their 24-70 is just mediocre while still costing a PREMIUM.
I'd rather recommend people to get the Tamron pair 17-28/2.8 and 28-75/2.8 - that's a nice travel/wedding setup and they're also smaller & lighter which my back would thank me for.
This comparison is questionable. Why are we comparing the Canon EF lens for DSLRs, instead of the Canon RF lens for the Canon EOS R mirrorless body? The Canon EF lens is several years old, and they have released an upgrade for the RF mount.
He's removing the camera as a variable. He said that in the video.
J.T. I’m sorry. I missed that claim, and I have watched it three times. In fact, he compared several lenses on their native bodies.
Nikon introduces a new lens after Canon introduces a new lens. But, he compares the new Nikon against the much older Canon.
BTW, did you notice toward the end that he conceded the Canon was easily the sharpest lens out of all? He claimed he mounted the Canon lens on a Sony body “to match the megapixels.” He could have used the Canon EOS RP if that were the case.
@@thesharpercoder - no need to apologise. Glad you see your mistake. Take care.
4:14 Label your graph properly. I’m having axes meltdown 😝
axis
Tone Gee Pl
Plural of Axis is Axes.
I have no idea what I'm supposed to look at.
Great to hear that this lens is actually as good as it is. WRT what lens I would really like to see from Nikon is a 80-400 S lens.
got a good chuckle every time he said "new ass model"
"they are smaller, they are lighter..." looks over at 70 - 200 f2.8s
Nikon is doing a fine job with their new S series Z mount lenses. S series holy trinity will be done next year!
Thank you, I love these lens reviews 😊
It is nice to know that the move to that mount is seeing fruit. Thanks for this post.
Is it possible to adjust the focus direction on Z mount Cameras? The one and only reason I skip considering Nikon cameras and lenses is just that. Can it be done on these newer bodies?
Surprise Surprise! Good job,....Ty
A little jealous about that depth of field indicator
Well, if the 24-70mm S did that well, wonder how the G model will do. Most likely even better.
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i guess it's both..it might work really great,if it's not the one from the recall batch..
yes those Nikon S line lenses are so much more sharper that older G line at Z cameras, i made 50mm f1.8 G vs 50mm f1.8 S competition at my Z6 and that new S line 50mm give so much more bright,colourfull and really much sharper photos
@@itsacookie1 i have D850 too and yes with my older version without VR 24-70 f2,8 i get sharp images, only reason not have VR at lens or camera, cant goes so down at shutterspeed without loosing sharpness,but i not test how that 50mm f1.8 G with D850 vs 50mm S-line at Z6, need try someday👍and look difference
The 50mm G line is also about a third of the price of the S lens. I guess the Sigma 50mm f1.4 vs Nikon 50mm 1.8 S lens would be a better comparison becuase they cost about the same.
I have the lens and I absolutely love it.
This is testing the lenses to a extremist of test. But for work or hobby shooters any od this lenses are just fantastic hard to se any difference in real life shooting. Great to be entertained by your excellent comparation tony!
Great review, and good lens. The do need a compelling narrative and this is not it, but it’s a great support for it.
You should have included Tamrons 24-70mm.
I shoot with the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 on my 5D mark IV and absolutely love it.
@@randydietmeyer5883 yeah, those lenses are great. I just need to upgrade my 24-70mm into the G2 version, the 70-200mm G2 is awesome.
Here's what I don't understand. Nikon increased the flange diameter and it was implied that this design change was for faster glass. Why isn't the 24-70 a 1.8? On a relevant note, where is the fast glass that Nikon promised?
Can you compare 24-70 2.8 with the 24-70 f4 z lens. Is it worth paying so much with the extra weight for just 1 f stop?
I use that lens with my Z7 regularly and found it to be a lot sharper than the F mount Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8 I got back in 2008 and used to shoot many weddings. I recently upgraded my Z7 for eye detection and it seems to be even better under lower lighting conditions. I’m retired but surely would recommend this lens with the Z6 for professionals in that business.
That's unfair, since Canon have a new lens for mirrorless.
J. T. Except that the Eos R sells more than nikon Z mirrorless
they don't have an 24-70 f2.8 yet
Tony probably used a Canon EOS R to make the video. The Nikon Z sells for far more than the Canon R. Canon has introduced a 28-70mm f/2L for the RF mirrorless mount, which I am sure Tony does not to touch.
The seven year old Canon is still sharper than the latest offerings from Sony and Nikon. Imagine how Canon’s latest lens would have compared.
Is this something you can compare to the 3rd party 2.8's out there. The Tamron for instance due to price difference, how much are we loosing in overall quality? This is important for us enthusiast that do not have an arm and leg to spend on lenses.
The quality of the Tamron is great, but we've found the AF on all those lenses to be a bit dodgy... so we don't recommend them for serious use.
@@TonyAndChelsea Sounds good thanks for the input. Enjoy the vacation if your still there.