@@arckmage5218 I think that depends largely on the end plan. Whether it is to encourage 2 minute map clears and spam through the atlas, or be a 5-10 minute clear where each map feels more impactful. Checkpoints aren’t a sign that maps are bad. Maps just are bad currently size wise because it feels no more impactful than a 2 minute clear. Like at the end of the day, more mobs into a bigger map is going to result in the same amount of rewards as less mobs in small map. Just less instances of league mechanics, which they could just buff to have increased output.
i like it big, yeah backtracking is bad but set up a good map is also tedious. bigger maps mean less set up for maps, less time in hideout and more time killing things. and killing things i like very much
i understand how you feel , but my guess is that they are doing an entire rework of the system and this is why we are not getting the map tab , because it'll change , GGG tends to do that type of thing
They were or still unsure if they want to keep the current endgame system in-place. It would be really bad to sell the map stashtabs, if they would rework the system entirely shortly after.
@jefferyreis3551 do you mean if you kill the boss and die at the same time the book drops but you can't get it and the game thinks you've already obtained it so you can't progress the atlas? Because that hasn't happened to me. I've been able to fight a different boss of same level and receive the skill book that I missed the first time
i am frigging done with POE 2. the endgame is just horrible, seriously this Atlas feels like i went back in time to 2016 and removing all my juice from the map upon dying just once adds insult to injury. I reached level 90 on deadeye and level 72 on invoker, that's it, no more mapping until drastic changes have been made there. Campaign is really fun though, I leveled 7 out of 12 available ascendencies to Act 4 (start of Cruel mode), each character without any trading except for currency exchange. gimme that new POE 1 event. I'm really starved for POE 1 content now.
I dropped the game at level 92 on my stormweaver ice strike as well. The endgame is so boring, if they don't scrap the whole endless delve from Temu, then I will never ever play that game again
@@N2OisLove These are the same people (GGG) that said they wanted early access to end by summer ideally, and end of the year at the latest. Also the same people who decided to release their early access product when they knew they'd be taking time off, thus leaving things a complete joke for weeks with 0 changes. They deserve the criticism. If you're 2 months into your 6~12 month early access and it feels like almost nothing's changed, you can't use EA as an excuse anymore.
@@MikeSakaru then don’t play EAs or beta… it’s really not that crazy. Watching this community freak out over a company being WAY more forthcoming than any of the others in this same industry has been pretty eye opening. Hopefully they don’t take a page out of someone like blizzards book. Instead hopefully they sit back and laugh at the grown men crying over a video game as they count their quad tab money.
Excited for the PoE1 event! I'm not completely trusting GGG but this is a sign of good will that they technically didn't have to do, so it definitely gets me back on the side of "yeah this is just bad management and people messing up" rather than the doomer "PoE1 is dead and they're dragging us along" like the Reddit would have you believe in these past days.
I'm probably an idiot for running strongboxes but it has dropped 3 level 20 gems for me so far. +2 levels modifier goes to +3 if you take the atlas passive for 50% effect. Minimap icons will be nice
Nah, ever since they buffed them they’re ok. They’re fine to run imo cuz you can do them relatively quickly. Biggest reason they were a waste before before was because the loot was trash 99/100 times AND it took 2 minutes to do. Now you still don’t get much most of the time, but at least you can complete it in 30 seconds or less, so not much time lost
@@hibrandonhi I've gone from ignoring them to only click on them if they're rare. Still get shit fuck all, but more shit fuck all than before, I guess.
@@RickCarleton yeah, like I said, they’re ok now. To your point really only rare chest are worth running and those are still usually worthless. but at least you aren’t waiting for 2 minutes for a aug orb anymore and you at least have a small chance of something worthwhile like a lvl 20 gem or a div or something like that. Still needs buffs, but at least not completely unplayable anymore.
Fun fact. If you goto the webpage and want to upgrade your PoE2 account and when you fill inn to recieve the t-shirt, make sure you check the prices. I would need to pay $34.46 for the shipping costs. But for the 3XL and only the 3XL t-shirt I would need to pay $60.04. And they will say it is the distrubitors.
Am i the only one that feels that this patch is extremely underwhelming? There was virtually nothing that the average player will experience, Im juicing t15's at lv 94 and nothing in here is remotely exciting
They have thousands of game assets which have to be made, quality-tested, implemented into engine, as well as hundreds of monsters with hundreds of skills and animations, as well as locations, items with stats, sound, passive tree, various other mechanics. Don't underestimate amount of work they are doing, it's enormous, and thus minor patch is something they dedicate least time to, while rest of focus is on 0.2 which would probably be focused on characters like Huntress / Druid and items like swords and axes, while they will work on acts and league mechanics / endgame in parallel. It's literally thousands of tasks in pipeline for dev team
It's big for a letter patch, which usually would just mean crash/bug fixes. 0.2 will be fairly large, probably with entire classes and more system stuff. No way to know until we see it though.
@@Lumitex Players are a lot like investors, they dont care for work or time only for results and especially if things get tough they demand that devs crunch harder.....
This patch is big for the future full release ,where there will be new players starting their first pinnacle bosses contents with multiple tries instead of just one .
Meanwhile I'm playing in Phox leauge. Started with a Infernal Legion Carrion Golem, got an Astramentis to drop which sold for a few divines, and now leveling a Crit Conduit of the Heavens Inquisitor.
Hopefully they come up with a quick and fun new POE1 league soon but they don’t have to break the mold. What people want in POE1 is an economy reset. The new features can be small and fun. I hope they continue to invest heavily in POE2 though… the game needs more work and has FAR more potential.
It's kind of astounding how hard GGG has fumbled this one, imagine slapping an indefinite delay on your cash cow that has been rock solid for years now while your new experimental money sink is floundering. Then a single streamer opens a private league of the game you delayed with literally no changes and he hits the player cap in a couple of days, so fast that you have to go and modify the player cap to add another 10,000 and he's gonna hit that too... again, for a re-release of content for like the 3rd time with no major changes. This is the level of dedication of POE1 players, and this is what you delay for your now rapidly failing experiment.
Really wondering how it's going in GGG office for them to switch direction back and forth like this. My suspicion (please take this with a grain of salt) is that Jonathan is all in on PoE 2 and the sales number from EA gave him the justification to pull all devs from PoE 1. And then the massive backlash followed by the record sign ups on Pohx league gave someone else the justitication to partially reverse that decision. Feels like there's an ongoing power struggle there.
Ingenuity prices will drop but nothing too crazy. This means that the audience with the king prices will also drop because they are based on the prices of what uncorrupted ingenuity belts can be sold for (25% drop rate x Non corrupted ingenuity sales price = ~Key price)
Between burning ground and terrible mana spend issues I’m so glad I rerolled a Spark Mage off of Ranger… 3 LA’s and my mana was gone and every step you took half my health was gone with burning ground.
I find crazy some of the takes of people in the comments. Some people said "I like big maps to explore" 💀 tf u mean "explore" it's the same maps from campaign but smaller. Backtracking is bad. That's it. There's nothing to be gained for a player by running around looking for a damn mob, even less when the mobility in the game is so unfun unless you're playing temporalis/maybe att stack tempest flurry. It's not about "needing to close the map in 30 seconds like in PoE 1" as someone said, it's about respecting my goddamn time by not making me run around doing literally nothing for a mob that's more likely than not, going to give me 2 exalts and couple useless rare items. You want to make maps big? Cool! I also like killing mobs more than reading if the maps has good rolls or not, but don't make me lose time. Towers are kind of annoying to me, I don't like the idea of having to find 3 towers, set them up, run 4-7 maps and do it again, they should be permanent and the one thing consumed being the tablets maybe, though right now they are kind of plain and would rather have the atlas passive tree enhanced and towers removed much like PoE1. (I am completely aware they want this endgame to change and am very much happy about it).
@@NoConsequenc3 Ah, my bad, I'll try to randomly tp on maps that straight out don't have a way around it.... Holy how can you be so slow just to prove a useless point
@@citrueil1088 They were rather aggressive about it, but they have a point. Once you map in this game long enough you start to learn that there's a method to clearing the "bad" layouts. Not going to say you'll ever have a 100% success rate but you can drastically reduce the amount of backtracking you do to almost nothing once you learn the layouts and think of efficient pathing (it won't always be hug a wall like in POE1). I actually enjoyed the process of figuring out the best way to path through these maps and that might be what people are referring to when they say they enjoy exploring. Although it also feels like not all of the maps are identical to things we encounter in the campaign. There are some that seem to be using new art resources, likely from unreleased acts.
@@brianh5844 Hey, yeah I also think I was over aggressive on the reply really. As for your reply, I agree with most of what you said. My point though is: There should be no forced backtracking due to layouts, also, most maps are unfun/bothersome to run due mostly, to layout, also I myself find there's too many troublesome blocking terrain in pretty much all maps which have been oddly enough added to them after having them removed from a lot of PoE 1 maps for the same reason (like small ponds, rocks, bushes, etc...). So yeah, I agree with your take on "better pathing equals less backtracking", and I also keep thinking "forced backtracking shouldn't be a thing" (which it is due to layouts like vaal factory to name one, exist)
I'm interested if the POE1 mini league will be a void league. I collect uniques so I don't usually participate in void leagues even if they look interesting like this upcoming one.
Im actually really happy about this /resetatlas command. Unfortunately mine is in a weird state where probably 60-70% of the possible directions ive gone from the starting point have all ended in dead ends or impassible mountain ranges. Leading me to returning to the start and pushing in a new direction every time. Its quite annoying.
If they've actually nailed the 24H2 crash, I might actually be able to map instead of spamming sanctums (the issue seems to get more likely the more tilesets I load in a single session). Now if only mapping was fun...
@@Yslohr from my pov ben is a big rager but he has alot of points, he has achieved alot in poe1 and always manages to top charts and it almost feels like he's mad he cant play poe2 like poe1 but again i get where he comes from, i think people are too quick to crucify GGG but GGG is also being slow to fix major important issues which once again, is understandable from both parties, GGG was too ambitious and players had too many expectations, i just hope we get a big patch with alot of interesting changes ASAP
He absolutely nailed every single point in the video outside of doodling over it and saying they should have changed the whole game in 2 months while on Christmas break lol. I have faith man, this is GGG after all. If anyone deserves a little bit of leeway it's them but apparently the whole internet wants them to prostrate and apologize while also fixing everything but also changing nothing while also dropping a free 200 ex for everyone
@@nickh4354 i mean in that video, or any other ben video, he doesnt stop moving. hes completely hopelessly addicted to poe. of course 2's beta was never going tot be enough for him
Not even close to enough on POE2 (even for a small interim patch) And honestly, a poorly thought out "just throw in whatever things our designers rejected" in place of at least a "we thought about it a bit" mechanic for POE1 seems like as low effort as it would be possible to be - you won't even be able to play a decent balanced class
They need a complete overhaul to stuff, just that means nothing or barely… focus on Poe1 or 2 doesn’t matter but don’t just give us crumbles of what it could be, we need a lot more than that or at least kind of a date to expect stuff
Considering how this shitty community held the other expected date over heir head with poe1 next league they would be shooting themselves in the foot in giving any date they are not 100% sure they can keep.
Doubt I’ll ever get back into PoE 2 with how the core game feels hoping they just give us our own PoE client at some point when they seemingly give up on it so we can just play it . Say early access all you want but they had years of PoE to go off of and we still went insanely backwards. Only half decent thing is campaign and even then half of it was a slog
10k hours in poe here. They lost me, i played 600h in poe2 and i dont want to play any more. They fucked up... NOW they adding portals? when people already quit the game? NOW they are doing all this good stuff? when there is literally zero interest in the game on Twitch, when all of my friends stopped playing? oh fuck off ggg with your shit, always doing the good things late. AND who the fuck releases a new game and goes on a 3 week vacation?
Surely more checkpoints will make mapping better right? How about fixing your horrendous, fun-draining layouts and removing rares as map completion instead? Stop being so stubborn and chasing the 'vision'. Listen to your community if you want them to enjoy your game. Edit: Personally I wouldn't care if maps had a checkpoint per metre, they would still feel garbage and need a complete re-design from the ground up, like multiple systems in the game (atlas tree, towers)
I knew they were gonna walk this back....I posted it several months ago, now they need to make maps have more than 1 death 1 portal...It serves no purpose.
I wish they would make tokens earnable and a name change lol they gave me the own name she for some reason and I didn't get to pick it. I think it might have bugged out during name creating. So now I'm stuck with the name tripplecrawl LMAO.. But other than that the game is amazing
Lmao the youtube algorithm is out of control. You click on a POE video and the entire suggested videos bar is exclusively political propaganda. Had to blacklist like 30 channels to prevent them from showing up just after watching this one video.
Yeah I always thought it was unlikely that there would be only 12 months of early access. They have to introduce 3 acts, 6 classes , 24 ascendancies , some missing skills for current classes and endgame alternatives. All of this while fixing bugs and balancing everything every time they introduce something new . I would actually be surprised if they are able to do it all in 2 years time. I hope that GGG gets someone that knows about project managing and understands timings for this industry and how to plan and communicate about it.
This does not show any progress I’m looking for. The 6 month timeline to release is pipe dream. I will not be interested in this game by the time GGG gets around to figuring out the logistics of running two games with one team.
How long is Early Access likely to run for? As long as needed, we expect at least 6 months. People focus too much on the 2nd half and not enough on the first.
They are so damn out of touch. Why not reduce campaign by half an all map sizes. And reduce most pf thr clutter like trees doors and thin corridors. We the players hate them. Every other blink i hit something despite me being a squinting 5head. I cannot find even half a screen of open ground in a single map. But this is just one of the hundreds of issues that needs to be fixed before this becomes game pf the year. Right now i am just not interested in levelling 4-5 new alts next season ro try new builds. I am not interested in spending a full work week on just levelling them before i can playtest them for GGG.
I leveled 4 characters and got one to maps. Ran a few maps (before the last big patch) and it just wasn’t fun, quit and started to play LE and D4, now playing in Pohx league. POE2 will need at least a year or more before it matures, if pulling all the devs off POE1 for 6 month resulted in the current endgame, which sounds like most people are not happy with. GGG really should have kept a team on POE1 instead of keep doubling down on POE2, this way they can keep their customers happy and incoming flowing. Yes POE2 has big player numbers, but it’s EA so there shouldn’t have been expectations of a live released game’s updates. All those new players could have been introduced to POE1, a highly polished game, making it win win for everyone. I really hope GGG really put a permanent full team back on POE1 once their 0.2 releases, but I don’t have much hope if this was their management decision, prioritizing POE2
Krangled pasive tree/ ascendancy were big MEH From what i saw Its sad they dont bother with flashback leagues Players are still screaming for synth league
What a garbage patch. Citadels still get 1 portal? "Potential" fix for hard crashes? Are they aware its not just 24h2? Not wasting my time on this game anymore
I know its early access but 3 weeks for this is pain. Love the game and will follow it closely but im 4 characters over 95, ive tried all of the mirror builds and now im burnt.
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"minimap icons ... remain visible" just what I was wishing for. Thx GGG
They really need to listen to Ben. Checkpoints should be the biggest red flag that your maps are too big and frankly, too tedious.
That was one of bens few ok take remarks.. most of his remarks made him look like a disconnected loony toon.
ben is mentally far too deep to give a balanced take.
@@arckmage5218 I think that depends largely on the end plan. Whether it is to encourage 2 minute map clears and spam through the atlas, or be a 5-10 minute clear where each map feels more impactful. Checkpoints aren’t a sign that maps are bad. Maps just are bad currently size wise because it feels no more impactful than a 2 minute clear.
Like at the end of the day, more mobs into a bigger map is going to result in the same amount of rewards as less mobs in small map. Just less instances of league mechanics, which they could just buff to have increased output.
i like it big,
yeah backtracking is bad but set up a good map is also tedious.
bigger maps mean less set up for maps, less time in hideout and more time killing things. and killing things i like very much
Map layouts are probably the biggest reason I got over the endgame. They are terrible! Too big and full of so many nooks, crannies, and CRAP!
No map tab 2 months in
i understand how you feel , but my guess is that they are doing an entire rework of the system and this is why we are not getting the map tab , because it'll change , GGG tends to do that type of thing
They were or still unsure if they want to keep the current endgame system in-place. It would be really bad to sell the map stashtabs, if they would rework the system entirely shortly after.
Map tab is not needed as you only focus on t15 waystones anyway
Quadtab selling strat 😂
map tab isn't as important at this stage as massive mechanics issues like boss retries and map rerigging for checkpoints. Relax.
Can GGG actually give us physical melee builds some love? Cause its obvious we did not get any.
I stopped playing a week ago. Don’t miss it. Game needs allot of work and polish. Will check it out in a year or so.
@@BulkyPen good thing Noone cares what you do lol
@@chrystone1so take your words and shove them up yours.
Fix the issue if you die to bosses in waystones, you can still get the next Book. At the moment if you die to a boss or fail, you can't get it again.
@jefferyreis3551 do you mean if you kill the boss and die at the same time the book drops but you can't get it and the game thinks you've already obtained it so you can't progress the atlas? Because that hasn't happened to me. I've been able to fight a different boss of same level and receive the skill book that I missed the first time
Fixing the win 24h2 patch will be insane. Havent played path of exile at more than 30fps sines launch.
whyyy omg, just search "poe2 uncrasher" and use that.
i am frigging done with POE 2. the endgame is just horrible, seriously this Atlas feels like i went back in time to 2016 and removing all my juice from the map upon dying just once adds insult to injury. I reached level 90 on deadeye and level 72 on invoker, that's it, no more mapping until drastic changes have been made there.
Campaign is really fun though, I leveled 7 out of 12 available ascendencies to Act 4 (start of Cruel mode), each character without any trading except for currency exchange.
gimme that new POE 1 event. I'm really starved for POE 1 content now.
I dropped the game at level 92 on my stormweaver ice strike as well. The endgame is so boring, if they don't scrap the whole endless delve from Temu, then I will never ever play that game again
They spent like 1 months putting together the endgame didn't they? Game isn't released yet we just got patch 0.1.1c...
my guy its called early acces for a reason
@@N2OisLove These are the same people (GGG) that said they wanted early access to end by summer ideally, and end of the year at the latest.
Also the same people who decided to release their early access product when they knew they'd be taking time off, thus leaving things a complete joke for weeks with 0 changes.
They deserve the criticism. If you're 2 months into your 6~12 month early access and it feels like almost nothing's changed, you can't use EA as an excuse anymore.
@@MikeSakaru then don’t play EAs or beta… it’s really not that crazy. Watching this community freak out over a company being WAY more forthcoming than any of the others in this same industry has been pretty eye opening. Hopefully they don’t take a page out of someone like blizzards book. Instead hopefully they sit back and laugh at the grown men crying over a video game as they count their quad tab money.
Bruh they haven't even given a date yet for the big patch/league reset...
the good news is....at this rate we will only have like 4 or 5 major balance changes before release lmao. what a clustef.....
@@suzukisixk7There is no reality they release 1.0 this year
goodbye poe 1... hello sweet poe 2
Because that league is far away.
OH MY GOD
I just hope the minion fix actually solves the issue.
The minion fix is vastly bigger than anything else in this patch
Just watch, "a short period" is going to mean that they're stuck in a doorway for three seconds before they can squeeze through.
That bug fix with energy shield is huge for me. It made it so on kill effects wouldn't happen including rarity.
Excited for the PoE1 event! I'm not completely trusting GGG but this is a sign of good will that they technically didn't have to do, so it definitely gets me back on the side of "yeah this is just bad management and people messing up" rather than the doomer "PoE1 is dead and they're dragging us along" like the Reddit would have you believe in these past days.
We need a completely new map system
when are they going to address the stability issues some of us are having with constant computer hard freezes... ???
Ascend into a Harbinger sounds way too fun to miss out on! Hope it is as whacky and fun as they can go with it.
SHOT!! I die many time in T15 map will that patch fix it!?
I'm probably an idiot for running strongboxes but it has dropped 3 level 20 gems for me so far. +2 levels modifier goes to +3 if you take the atlas passive for 50% effect. Minimap icons will be nice
Nah, ever since they buffed them they’re ok. They’re fine to run imo cuz you can do them relatively quickly.
Biggest reason they were a waste before before was because the loot was trash 99/100 times AND it took 2 minutes to do.
Now you still don’t get much most of the time, but at least you can complete it in 30 seconds or less, so not much time lost
@@hibrandonhi I've gone from ignoring them to only click on them if they're rare. Still get shit fuck all, but more shit fuck all than before, I guess.
@@RickCarleton yeah, like I said, they’re ok now. To your point really only rare chest are worth running and those are still usually worthless. but at least you aren’t waiting for 2 minutes for a aug orb anymore and you at least have a small chance of something worthwhile like a lvl 20 gem or a div or something like that.
Still needs buffs, but at least not completely unplayable anymore.
@@stumpoman You upgrading them or just running them as you find them?
Besr things about shrines are additional raremobs 😅
Apparantly ggg slamed that vaal orb on poe 1 and the result was a break
Fun fact. If you goto the webpage and want to upgrade your PoE2 account and when you fill inn to recieve the t-shirt, make sure you check the prices. I would need to pay $34.46 for the shipping costs. But for the 3XL and only the 3XL t-shirt I would need to pay $60.04. And they will say it is the distrubitors.
It's Waitangi Day on Thursday so I reckon it'll be either tomorrow or Friday
@@cuttygrass801 wot?
@@ExSpoonman national holiday
What if we gained monster modifiers and stats instead of the current ascendancies
Am i the only one that feels that this patch is extremely underwhelming?
There was virtually nothing that the average player will experience, Im juicing t15's at lv 94 and nothing in here is remotely exciting
They have thousands of game assets which have to be made, quality-tested, implemented into engine, as well as hundreds of monsters with hundreds of skills and animations, as well as locations, items with stats, sound, passive tree, various other mechanics. Don't underestimate amount of work they are doing, it's enormous, and thus minor patch is something they dedicate least time to, while rest of focus is on 0.2 which would probably be focused on characters like Huntress / Druid and items like swords and axes, while they will work on acts and league mechanics / endgame in parallel. It's literally thousands of tasks in pipeline for dev team
It's big for a letter patch, which usually would just mean crash/bug fixes. 0.2 will be fairly large, probably with entire classes and more system stuff. No way to know until we see it though.
resetting the AT will be so dam nice i got so many that dont go anywhere but around that zone and dont leas anywhere else
@@Lumitex Players are a lot like investors, they dont care for work or time only for results and especially if things get tough they demand that devs crunch harder.....
This patch is big for the future full release ,where there will be new players starting their first pinnacle bosses contents with multiple tries instead of just one .
Any ideas on why simulacrum price dropped so drastically? I purchased a bunch of them just in case they go up again
Patch up but citadel completion bug still exists. Sadge
3.26 when?
Meanwhile I'm playing in Phox leauge. Started with a Infernal Legion Carrion Golem, got an Astramentis to drop which sold for a few divines, and now leveling a Crit Conduit of the Heavens Inquisitor.
Waystone stash when?
We need :
- Add more classes, skills and weapons
-Change for a in-game Trade
-Fixed all the bugs with Chaos Trial
Hopefully they come up with a quick and fun new POE1 league soon but they don’t have to break the mold. What people want in POE1 is an economy reset. The new features can be small and fun.
I hope they continue to invest heavily in POE2 though… the game needs more work and has FAR more potential.
Still no map tab??????😂😂😂😂😂
Incomign crucial months for GGG, if they mess it up, it could catastrophical long term.
It's kind of astounding how hard GGG has fumbled this one, imagine slapping an indefinite delay on your cash cow that has been rock solid for years now while your new experimental money sink is floundering. Then a single streamer opens a private league of the game you delayed with literally no changes and he hits the player cap in a couple of days, so fast that you have to go and modify the player cap to add another 10,000 and he's gonna hit that too... again, for a re-release of content for like the 3rd time with no major changes. This is the level of dedication of POE1 players, and this is what you delay for your now rapidly failing experiment.
Really wondering how it's going in GGG office for them to switch direction back and forth like this. My suspicion (please take this with a grain of salt) is that Jonathan is all in on PoE 2 and the sales number from EA gave him the justification to pull all devs from PoE 1. And then the massive backlash followed by the record sign ups on Pohx league gave someone else the justitication to partially reverse that decision. Feels like there's an ongoing power struggle there.
Ingenuity prices will drop but nothing too crazy. This means that the audience with the king prices will also drop because they are based on the prices of what uncorrupted ingenuity belts can be sold for (25% drop rate x Non corrupted ingenuity sales price = ~Key price)
Had they fix burning ground yet? I have 90% max fire res. I still get melted so fast on burning ground. It doesn’t make sense.
I particularly enjoy the phrase “patches of burning ground” when in actuality it’s half the freaking map.
Does it even hurt that much ? Whats your hp/es count like
Between burning ground and terrible mana spend issues I’m so glad I rerolled a Spark Mage off of Ranger… 3 LA’s and my mana was gone and every step you took half my health was gone with burning ground.
@@Eqnotalent juat trash that map dont run it
@@kazumeow_ 1k hp 8k ES.
I find crazy some of the takes of people in the comments. Some people said "I like big maps to explore" 💀 tf u mean "explore" it's the same maps from campaign but smaller.
Backtracking is bad. That's it. There's nothing to be gained for a player by running around looking for a damn mob, even less when the mobility in the game is so unfun unless you're playing temporalis/maybe att stack tempest flurry. It's not about "needing to close the map in 30 seconds like in PoE 1" as someone said, it's about respecting my goddamn time by not making me run around doing literally nothing for a mob that's more likely than not, going to give me 2 exalts and couple useless rare items. You want to make maps big? Cool! I also like killing mobs more than reading if the maps has good rolls or not, but don't make me lose time.
Towers are kind of annoying to me, I don't like the idea of having to find 3 towers, set them up, run 4-7 maps and do it again, they should be permanent and the one thing consumed being the tablets maybe, though right now they are kind of plain and would rather have the atlas passive tree enhanced and towers removed much like PoE1. (I am completely aware they want this endgame to change and am very much happy about it).
"explore" lmao
if you're backtracking more than maybe 15 seconds total a map your pathing is fuckin horrible and it's a skill issue
@@NoConsequenc3 Ah, my bad, I'll try to randomly tp on maps that straight out don't have a way around it.... Holy how can you be so slow just to prove a useless point
@@citrueil1088 They were rather aggressive about it, but they have a point. Once you map in this game long enough you start to learn that there's a method to clearing the "bad" layouts. Not going to say you'll ever have a 100% success rate but you can drastically reduce the amount of backtracking you do to almost nothing once you learn the layouts and think of efficient pathing (it won't always be hug a wall like in POE1). I actually enjoyed the process of figuring out the best way to path through these maps and that might be what people are referring to when they say they enjoy exploring. Although it also feels like not all of the maps are identical to things we encounter in the campaign. There are some that seem to be using new art resources, likely from unreleased acts.
@@brianh5844 Hey, yeah I also think I was over aggressive on the reply really. As for your reply, I agree with most of what you said. My point though is: There should be no forced backtracking due to layouts, also, most maps are unfun/bothersome to run due mostly, to layout, also I myself find there's too many troublesome blocking terrain in pretty much all maps which have been oddly enough added to them after having them removed from a lot of PoE 1 maps for the same reason (like small ponds, rocks, bushes, etc...).
So yeah, I agree with your take on "better pathing equals less backtracking", and I also keep thinking "forced backtracking shouldn't be a thing" (which it is due to layouts like vaal factory to name one, exist)
Damn, I thought the next patch coming would be the 0.2.0... that means the next poe 1 league is going to be even later...
We need a real patch that adds the classes they showcased like the huntress and druidz
That many changes to Poe and they only run it for 1 month 😢
I'm interested if the POE1 mini league will be a void league.
I collect uniques so I don't usually participate in void leagues even if they look interesting like this upcoming one.
Yay, go pohx
I do hope they don't nerf stuffs... but ... yeah fixing skill bug can brick a build.
Im actually really happy about this /resetatlas command. Unfortunately mine is in a weird state where probably 60-70% of the possible directions ive gone from the starting point have all ended in dead ends or impassible mountain ranges. Leading me to returning to the start and pushing in a new direction every time. Its quite annoying.
I dont think that command works if you didn't brick the 4 starting nodes
@@K1m9857 well that would sucks. thanks for clarifying tho.
@@Shaman409 glad to help :)
You need to learn the earthbender skill 😅
Why would a witch become a stormeraver? Do you mean scion? 😅
tthis is good because today i lost my ingenuity to 49% and died to audience with the king, i have bad day today
Stay sane brother
If they've actually nailed the 24H2 crash, I might actually be able to map instead of spamming sanctums (the issue seems to get more likely the more tilesets I load in a single session). Now if only mapping was fun...
try Volken instead of dx12, that removed all the crashes for me
@@estaria89 how did you manage to spell "Vulkan" like that ? 😂
@@DoctorStrange01 😀
Ben is based, I've been trying to articulate my problems with the POE2 since launch and oh my god did he deliver what I couldn't say properly myself.
@@Yslohr from my pov ben is a big rager but he has alot of points, he has achieved alot in poe1 and always manages to top charts and it almost feels like he's mad he cant play poe2 like poe1 but again i get where he comes from, i think people are too quick to crucify GGG but GGG is also being slow to fix major important issues which once again, is understandable from both parties, GGG was too ambitious and players had too many expectations, i just hope we get a big patch with alot of interesting changes ASAP
He absolutely nailed every single point in the video outside of doodling over it and saying they should have changed the whole game in 2 months while on Christmas break lol. I have faith man, this is GGG after all. If anyone deserves a little bit of leeway it's them but apparently the whole internet wants them to prostrate and apologize while also fixing everything but also changing nothing while also dropping a free 200 ex for everyone
@@nickh4354 i mean in that video, or any other ben video, he doesnt stop moving. hes completely hopelessly addicted to poe. of course 2's beta was never going tot be enough for him
@@nickh4354 I haven't had faith in GGG since post harvest.
Not even close to enough on POE2 (even for a small interim patch)
And honestly, a poorly thought out "just throw in whatever things our designers rejected" in place of at least a "we thought about it a bit" mechanic for POE1 seems like as low effort as it would be possible to be - you won't even be able to play a decent balanced class
They need a complete overhaul to stuff, just that means nothing or barely… focus on Poe1 or 2 doesn’t matter but don’t just give us crumbles of what it could be, we need a lot more than that or at least kind of a date to expect stuff
Considering how this shitty community held the other expected date over heir head with poe1 next league they would be shooting themselves in the foot in giving any date they are not 100% sure they can keep.
Doubt I’ll ever get back into PoE 2 with how the core game feels hoping they just give us our own PoE client at some point when they seemingly give up on it so we can just play it .
Say early access all you want but they had years of PoE to go off of and we still went insanely backwards. Only half decent thing is campaign and even then half of it was a slog
10k hours in poe here. They lost me, i played 600h in poe2 and i dont want to play any more. They fucked up... NOW they adding portals? when people already quit the game? NOW they are doing all this good stuff? when there is literally zero interest in the game on Twitch, when all of my friends stopped playing? oh fuck off ggg with your shit, always doing the good things late. AND who the fuck releases a new game and goes on a 3 week vacation?
Surely more checkpoints will make mapping better right? How about fixing your horrendous, fun-draining layouts and removing rares as map completion instead? Stop being so stubborn and chasing the 'vision'. Listen to your community if you want them to enjoy your game.
Edit: Personally I wouldn't care if maps had a checkpoint per metre, they would still feel garbage and need a complete re-design from the ground up, like multiple systems in the game (atlas tree, towers)
Poe 1 event im gamed pretty good poe 2 changes
Map death attempts anyone?
O god, I just bent over and installed a forced win 24h2 update. Forgot poe still has an issue with it.
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I knew they were gonna walk this back....I posted it several months ago, now they need to make maps have more than 1 death 1 portal...It serves no purpose.
New classes need adding in Poe2 and fixing some ascensions. Bugger poe1 its had 10+ years of dev time into it.
I wish they would make tokens earnable and a name change lol they gave me the own name she for some reason and I didn't get to pick it. I think it might have bugged out during name creating. So now I'm stuck with the name tripplecrawl LMAO.. But other than that the game is amazing
Lmao the youtube algorithm is out of control. You click on a POE video and the entire suggested videos bar is exclusively political propaganda. Had to blacklist like 30 channels to prevent them from showing up just after watching this one video.
Yeah I don't know what it is, but apparently UA-cam assumes that if you are into POE, you are also into far right politics.
6-12 months expected and we got absolutely jack like 2 months in. Oh well, I could use a break from PoE.
Yeah I always thought it was unlikely that there would be only 12 months of early access.
They have to introduce 3 acts, 6 classes , 24 ascendancies , some missing skills for current classes and endgame alternatives. All of this while fixing bugs and balancing everything every time they introduce something new .
I would actually be surprised if they are able to do it all in 2 years time.
I hope that GGG gets someone that knows about project managing and understands timings for this industry and how to plan and communicate about it.
This does not show any progress I’m looking for. The 6 month timeline to release is pipe dream. I will not be interested in this game by the time GGG gets around to figuring out the logistics of running two games with one team.
How long is Early Access likely to run for?
As long as needed, we expect at least 6 months.
People focus too much on the 2nd half and not enough on the first.
They are so damn out of touch. Why not reduce campaign by half an all map sizes. And reduce most pf thr clutter like trees doors and thin corridors. We the players hate them. Every other blink i hit something despite me being a squinting 5head. I cannot find even half a screen of open ground in a single map.
But this is just one of the hundreds of issues that needs to be fixed before this becomes game pf the year.
Right now i am just not interested in levelling 4-5 new alts next season ro try new builds. I am not interested in spending a full work week on just levelling them before i can playtest them for GGG.
Sounds like the game might not be for you ? Also please don't talk for "we" the players as "we" don't all agree with you.
I leveled 4 characters and got one to maps. Ran a few maps (before the last big patch) and it just wasn’t fun, quit and started to play LE and D4, now playing in Pohx league. POE2 will need at least a year or more before it matures, if pulling all the devs off POE1 for 6 month resulted in the current endgame, which sounds like most people are not happy with.
GGG really should have kept a team on POE1 instead of keep doubling down on POE2, this way they can keep their customers happy and incoming flowing. Yes POE2 has big player numbers, but it’s EA so there shouldn’t have been expectations of a live released game’s updates. All those new players could have been introduced to POE1, a highly polished game, making it win win for everyone.
I really hope GGG really put a permanent full team back on POE1 once their 0.2 releases, but I don’t have much hope if this was their management decision, prioritizing POE2
I love poe 1 but the vets are so ungrateful to ggg.
There are mistakes and there are grave mistakes. GGG abandoning POE1 will be the latte one to them. Welp, companies rise and fall.
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How is this nothing
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@@thrice5560 Idk more boss attempts is huge
Lackluster….once again 😤😮💨😢
I’m really hoping the Dragonkin ARPG is good
Go for a walk, go for a ride, there's so much to see, so come out side
This is it? Very disappointing...
Everything about poe 2 is lackluster
I dont get why people are so disappointed. Were we expecting some huge patch before 0.2 or something? I thought we wouldn't get anything at all tbh
When addicts don't get their drug they act unreasonable
Krangled pasive tree/ ascendancy were big MEH
From what i saw
Its sad they dont bother with flashback leagues
Players are still screaming for synth league
Honestly its been 2 months and no new content for poe2 and i dont even wanna talk about poe 1 anymore, what a shitshow
Poe 1 old news Who cares 😴
What a garbage patch. Citadels still get 1 portal? "Potential" fix for hard crashes? Are they aware its not just 24h2? Not wasting my time on this game anymore
I know its early access but 3 weeks for this is pain. Love the game and will follow it closely but im 4 characters over 95, ive tried all of the mirror builds and now im burnt.
Yes.
You need another game
@@germanrud9904 already been on that angle for a week now
@@DogBurger9876 its a demo bro not a poe league youre overinvested
i do not care abnout POE2 at all... i have 6500 hours in poe1 and i wantto play poe1. Poe2 after 200 hours i`m totally done
really underwhelming patch. I know their saving it all up for a huge patch but we really need more fixes and additions. both games are stagnant.
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Imo the check points could be the big change for me. If it actually makes mapping feel better.
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I mean, fine qol improvements... But is this it?
Really?
Am I the only person who was expecting ACTUAL large updates and multiple economy wipes?
Wtf?
Bruh, I just want Swords and daggers in POE2...