POE 1 - 3.26? 3.25½? Legacy of Phrecia brings a Harbinger Ascendancy! Let's Discuss- Path of Exile 1

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  • @mattl1807
    @mattl1807 6 днів тому +56

    Gog is here talking about breakpoints and im just thinking "cool, it has the harby text for the names of the nodes"

    • @TheExplodingCore
      @TheExplodingCore 6 днів тому

      Now people who say build guides are impossible to understand can't be argued with. They are *literally* illegible lol
      First we take ⏧⍲⎎⏧⎾⍲⎎⟄⏎ and ⏧⍲⏎⎎⏧⎾⍲⎎⏧. ... After finishing uber lab we reallocate our points for ⍓⍓☊⍓☊⎎⟄.

  • @alewis514
    @alewis514 6 днів тому +44

    They plan one month but they might extend it later, 19 "new" ascendancies is quite a lot of content for players to chew through.

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  6 днів тому +19

      Yeah, I can see this going longer.

    • @99range92def
      @99range92def 6 днів тому

      @@sirgog If it goes longer there could be a conflict with a new poe 2 "reset/league" don't you think.

    • @AnitaPOE2
      @AnitaPOE2 6 днів тому +3

      ​@@99range92defpeople have already decided if they like poe2 or poe1 better. And im sure im not the only one who doesnt touch poe2 even if they reset the economy.
      This launch will rip poe2 players number, and rightfully so

    • @sagi3933
      @sagi3933 6 днів тому +2

      @@AnitaPOE2 For now, maybe. I like both and look forward to PoE 2 becoming good enough in the future, but agree that right now, it's no fun and easy to burn out in the endgame. That, and a lack of balance, content and build diversity in general is an issue for me.
      Also I certainly prefer PoE 1's endgame system so much so that unless PoE 2 improves player agency over it in a major way (respecting player time), I don't see myself play it that much in the future either.

    • @AnitaPOE2
      @AnitaPOE2 5 днів тому

      @sagi3933 i agree with you 100%!

  • @peterkatulin8399
    @peterkatulin8399 5 днів тому +13

    I can see forbidden jewels sets going for significantly higher this event since they are the only way to obtain build-enabling ascendancies such as Shaper of Flames.

    • @a.t3415
      @a.t3415 5 днів тому +11

      That's assuming they still give those nodes and not the new ones

    • @KazekanAgiel
      @KazekanAgiel 5 днів тому

      @@a.t3415yeah, that’s what I was thinking.

  • @InsPoE
    @InsPoE 5 днів тому +6

    They had me at you get to fly and be blue!

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 5 днів тому +12

    More importantly; GGG's intro to the ascendancy says you become blue and float. If that's an actual thing...

  • @PrismaSigma
    @PrismaSigma 4 дні тому +1

    Minor correction to something you mentioned earlier in the video: Cast While Channeling doesn't actually have a cooldown, it just has a casting interval. It doesn't interact with cooldown reduction unless the skill linked to it has its own cooldown (in which case you could conceivably try to bring the cooldown of a skill lower by enough to fit it in a shorter casting interval breakpoint).

    • @EvilWeiRamirez
      @EvilWeiRamirez 3 дні тому

      Thanks for this. I was wondering if I missed a change in this mechanic. I wish they would allow CWC to scale with anything. It should really scale with cast speed, imo.

  • @Elerigo
    @Elerigo 6 днів тому +10

    I want Harbinger cos i think the fantasy of it is super cool

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  6 днів тому +4

      Agree. May play it on that basis.

    • @poeflo4
      @poeflo4 5 днів тому

      Can you imagine having the Harbinger MTX automatically after you ascend and you float around with the blue halo, would be awesome

  • @edwardtan7283
    @edwardtan7283 6 днів тому +11

    With the 40% CDR + 100% hex aoe, impending doom with vixen might be on the table again.

    • @DixonYamouf
      @DixonYamouf 5 днів тому

      I never got to play it with the awakened spell cascade for more overlaps (I believe got nerfed) but maybe with the 100% increased aoe the build should work without awakened gems I'd hope

    • @Siegram999
      @Siegram999 3 дні тому

      yeah i was thinking that too but im not sure if i'd wanna play hit based or poison.

  • @yanj111
    @yanj111 6 днів тому +5

    as a wardlooper of more than 2 years, yes, 40% cooldown recovery is crazy!

    • @blazewagon5677
      @blazewagon5677 6 днів тому +1

      Imagine harbinger was on shadow so you could pick it’s 40% + sabo’s 40% cdr

    • @yanj111
      @yanj111 6 днів тому

      @@blazewagon5677

    • @yanj111
      @yanj111 6 днів тому

      @@blazewagon5677

    • @nicholasfigueiredo3171
      @nicholasfigueiredo3171 5 днів тому

      @@blazewagon5677 That would give you the mythical 90% breakpoint with the belt it will be CRAAZY. I am not sure how the forbidden jewels will work

    • @blazewagon5677
      @blazewagon5677 4 дні тому

      @@nicholasfigueiredo3171 not that there is much time to get em if they don't extend it but its seggregated by class, so I'd assume you fulfill the requirements as normal (be a witch to yoink witch ascendencies) it will work just fine.
      thats how you get the hidden ones as well, like you gotta be a witch to use nine lives passive

  • @HaPKoMaTo3
    @HaPKoMaTo3 6 днів тому +6

    If one of this ascendancies doesn't bring back Saqawal's flock tornado pooper build, i'm not playing and i will be very sad(50% increased chance of crying)

    • @edwardtan7283
      @edwardtan7283 6 днів тому +6

      100% more tears while crying.
      50% more crying duration.

    • @he5078
      @he5078 5 днів тому

      @@edwardtan7283 binding of isaac ascendancy

  • @s324
    @s324 6 днів тому +2

    btw the Arcane Harbinger tooltips haven't been updated for the Arcane Surge change - it says spell damage on wiki / poedb tooltips but it's cast speed, since it's derived from the AS buff.

  • @Aresojp
    @Aresojp 6 днів тому +1

    Very excited for this, especially after seeing how much mayhem its scope seems to be. Being limited to one month leaves me with questions though, hopefully they have something planned after, or extend it with further wonkiness.

    • @Hejti_
      @Hejti_ 6 днів тому +1

      I would say they plan PoE 2 league after

  • @JessieWiggls
    @JessieWiggls 4 дні тому

    The real PoE is back! God damn. Feels good

  • @wumi2419
    @wumi2419 6 днів тому +1

    I might try Archmage mjolnir again. Main skills are BL of orbiting/shock nova in mjolnir and you cast while channeling lightning warp to move fast.

  • @Odinsfall
    @Odinsfall 6 днів тому

    Love the flavour with this one. Definitely think it won't be on the upper end of power as you said but it's great to see where GGG's minds are at.

  • @sendroid4635
    @sendroid4635 5 днів тому +1

    how will flesh and flame work for the crangle text? :P

  • @dommyshan
    @dommyshan 4 дні тому

    If witch floats like a Harbinger and is blue, I'm totally doing this. Helps that I just followed a CwC build recently :D

  • @Skullogk
    @Skullogk 6 днів тому

    Mjolner Witch is on the table for me. Been wanting to do a cast while channel again. Though Ive always going Inquisitor.

  • @xXVintersorgXx
    @xXVintersorgXx 6 днів тому +1

    Getting CDR wrong makes you lose damage. There is basically a hard cap on attacks per second and triggers per second. 40% will get you to the cap without having to mess with gear. So you'll be able to cap other things like crit change much easier

  • @choochzor003
    @choochzor003 6 днів тому

    Prismatic burst comes to mind when I think of cooldown recovery like that. Huge node for people that want ti mess around with that otherwise forgotten support

    • @Limetkaqt
      @Limetkaqt 6 днів тому

      Hear me out: Impending Doom, with the AOE of Hexes and CDR

    • @Zylosio
      @Zylosio 6 днів тому +1

      the thing about prismatic burst it that its shit compared to triggering spells via CoC or even CwC

  • @dddmemaybe
    @dddmemaybe 5 днів тому

    I think the Mana and ES recovery rate node is multiplicative and works for all sources of recovery including on-hit and possibly leech. That's a pretty solid prerequisite for the arcane surge-like node. If you really wanted to go a troll mana-nuke build, this could make for a pretty good recovery asset so the downtime isn't as annoying. Maybe something like negative lightning res archmage arcane surge hexblast with shock effect.

  • @seikojin
    @seikojin 5 днів тому

    I do cyclone cwc ball lightning. So interesting options for the harbi path, however, I am wondering what is replacing elementalist...

  • @rockyrockie581
    @rockyrockie581 5 днів тому

    I wonder if we will be getting more cdr on the small nodes? two small nodes on that branch could be getting up to 10-12%?? That's 60% on that ascendancy which is a LOT.

  • @Kostchei
    @Kostchei 6 днів тому

    I'm really hyped for the CDR and Harbinger of Time in one ascendancy. Big fan of the blue girl

  • @Sav-xd9tz
    @Sav-xd9tz 5 днів тому

    Im coming for you Laszlo!

  • @bulwix3181
    @bulwix3181 6 днів тому

    great video, thanks for that! when are we looking at the gambler? :)

  • @TheDuskpaladin
    @TheDuskpaladin 5 днів тому

    kinda interested to see the forbidden flame/flesh jewels with the krangled harbi text on em lol.

  • @jakken666
    @jakken666 6 днів тому

    Would cast on channeling hexblast curse build work with this? Seems it could be fun to try to make a build around.

  • @wh0reb0t
    @wh0reb0t 5 днів тому

    Don't know much about Wardloop could they possibly use this ascendancy?

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  5 днів тому

      Yeah, this could be amazing there

  • @iamtheforce14
    @iamtheforce14 5 днів тому

    Very very curious if the forbidden jewels give the old nodes or the new ones

  • @kamilbaranski5957
    @kamilbaranski5957 6 днів тому +2

    Testing the waters of poe 2 ascendancies ideas in this league sounds like a great way of justifing poe1 development time, everyone wins

  • @Garryl367
    @Garryl367 5 днів тому

    It's a shame that the Summon Harbinger skills have a shared maximum of one summoned harbinger. Not only does it mean that taking multiple of the 4-point ascendancy nodes is useless, but it also means that you can't combine the Summon Greater Harbinger skills from the ascendancy with the basic Summon Harbinger skills from the non-upgraded items. There wouldn't be any point for Harbinger of Arcane (that just gives Arcane Surge), but the action speed auras from normal/greater Harbinger of Time have different names, as do the normal/greater Harbinger of Focus's damage reduction buffs, so they might have potentially stacked with each other.

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  5 днів тому

      Is this tested? I couldn't find anything on it. Really does need to be a higher limit IMO

    • @Garryl367
      @Garryl367 5 днів тому

      @@sirgog I'm working off of PoEWiki's information. The tooltips for the basic Summon Harbinger skills listed there say maximum 1 summoned harbinger. That line isn't present in the Summon Greater Harbinger skills, but the wiki says the limit is still present regardless.

  • @michafrejlich2532
    @michafrejlich2532 6 днів тому

    Wait. CDR works on cast when channeling?! I didnt know that

  • @a.t3415
    @a.t3415 5 днів тому

    Just to nitpick about getting 20% cdr on a stygian vise, it's (slightly) easier than you make it sound because the mod also appears as a crusader suffix. Fill prefixes and you have a 1/12 chance to hit 16-20% cdr with a crusader exalt. No need spend juice trying to roll shaper influence if you only want the one influenced mod

  • @GD1112
    @GD1112 6 днів тому

    I don't cast while channeling get's more cast per second with cdr

  • @semihamf1385
    @semihamf1385 5 днів тому

    I remember having to pay mirrors to get 52% wardloop CDR, 40% cdr is ALOT

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  5 днів тому

      Yeah Wardloop is solidly in 'really made for this ascendancy' build category

  • @polymer5132
    @polymer5132 6 днів тому

    How do they interact with totems?

    • @blackomega34
      @blackomega34 5 днів тому +2

      The harbies buff your stats and they do transfer to totems for the most part, as long as you're still doing the trigger condition.

  • @jl6332
    @jl6332 6 днів тому

    Im shaking! Both due to the hype and because its freezing.

  • @colon_sausage
    @colon_sausage 6 днів тому +1

    🍺

  • @asluckdespairs
    @asluckdespairs 5 днів тому +2

    3.25¾ cant forget Necro Settlers xD

  • @zdennnis
    @zdennnis 6 днів тому

    Hope the blight ascendancie replaces totems with towers :)

  • @lolleonlolable
    @lolleonlolable 6 днів тому

    are flasks "buffs" ?

    • @ontoverse
      @ontoverse 6 днів тому

      IIRC, they are "flask effects", and the mods (eg +25% ele. res.) have a qualifier "for the duration" or something like that on them. Could def be wrong about that tho.

  • @Mooplet
    @Mooplet 5 днів тому

    sweeeeeet

  • @zebrs99
    @zebrs99 6 днів тому

    Is this a fresh league also?

    • @blackomega34
      @blackomega34 5 днів тому +1

      It's an 'event' so similar to a fresh league.

    • @zebrs99
      @zebrs99 5 днів тому

      @ mainly curious if you’ll have to start a new character

    • @blackomega34
      @blackomega34 5 днів тому

      @ Almost certainly.

  • @timwiklund16
    @timwiklund16 6 днів тому

    impending doom back? pog

  • @ILikeGuns1992
    @ILikeGuns1992 5 днів тому

    Isn't Harbinger Ascendancy great for Impending Doom? 40% CDR - huge. 100% AOE is MASSIVE, with enough AOE you get additional overlaps with Spell Cascade back.

  • @jinxsoderling1399
    @jinxsoderling1399 6 днів тому +2

    Immune to shock/curse and chill while channeling will make u immune to ailments with a stormjewel 100% of the time unlike the 50% uptime on focus, id say its a superior node

    • @georgejurma3487
      @georgejurma3487 6 днів тому +2

      stormshroud provides chance to immunity - it works differently. For stormshroud to proc, you need chance to ailment immunity.

    • @nicholasstenbeck8539
      @nicholasstenbeck8539 6 днів тому

      Doesn't Stormshroud only apply to chance to avoid? This would still have you be shocked, but just not seeing any effect of the shock. Is there another jewel I can't think of? I could see Fulcrum be amazing with a cast while channeling phys to elemental conversion setup to give lucky damage, penetration and extra as random element to support trinity.

    • @HorizonVertigo
      @HorizonVertigo 6 днів тому

      Being shocked without the downside of being shocked is one of the most powerful effects in the game.

  • @georgeb1298
    @georgeb1298 6 днів тому +1

    their leagues are never polished. first week is always an overtuned balance mess. This time there is nothing to overtune though.

  • @Seelenverheizer
    @Seelenverheizer 5 днів тому

    Yeah GGG will be running this for 3 months and its fine. I think its an interesting ascendency with middling power but i am sure it will allow for some powerfull builds.
    The Harby-skills are pretty fine overall but mostly tied to shitty items so this is quite refreshing.
    Im most looking forward to the Scion one. She should be a gemling and honestly if its good i would love them replacing the current one with it. The current one is pretty shit and boring.

  • @deadtreebark
    @deadtreebark 6 днів тому

    Harbinger lags the game, I wonder if they optimize it a bit more

  • @alexknight1361
    @alexknight1361 5 днів тому

    If you're doing self curse, you can keep the Harbinger of Focus buff up with really good uptime by just occasionally channeling.

  • @MegasSalavatis
    @MegasSalavatis 6 днів тому

    Comment

  • @mrwildcaptain
    @mrwildcaptain 6 днів тому +2

    Can we as a community collectively stop calling PoE poe1? Its always has and will be PoE, the 2nd installment needs a number at the end. Thank you, nice video as always man.

    • @Blyron1
      @Blyron1 6 днів тому +2

      ​​@@mrwildcaptain WWI was called "The Great War" before WWII. Using numbers helps to be clearer.

    • @DemCheeks666
      @DemCheeks666 6 днів тому +2

      Poe 1

    • @Boss-lp9ce
      @Boss-lp9ce 6 днів тому +4

      Poe 1

    • @brandonwalker5011
      @brandonwalker5011 6 днів тому +4

      No probably not. As others have pointed out there is precedent and it's not like saying 1 is that big of a burden for the added clarity.

    • @99range92def
      @99range92def 5 днів тому +1

      Poe refers to both games.

  • @joe1trillion651
    @joe1trillion651 6 днів тому

    The Gambler ascendancy looks like it’s going to be used in Flicker Strike bait builds.

  • @kokorochin01
    @kokorochin01 5 днів тому

    1 month event isn't really interesting to me, sadly.

  • @gremiocopeiro83
    @gremiocopeiro83 6 днів тому

    feels like the poe1 version of chronomancer

  • @vitzhunter
    @vitzhunter 6 днів тому +3

    Power is boring. Give me jank that I can struggle through and be proud to have built around on a shoestring budget.

    • @knusperwurst
      @knusperwurst 5 днів тому +2

      @@vitzhunter lol you described poe2

  • @breakthecode4634
    @breakthecode4634 6 днів тому

    GGG have no idea what they are doing at this point lmao.

  • @sammyjenkis5260
    @sammyjenkis5260 6 днів тому

    Trigger mechanics are a dead archtype due to mana and amount of map modifiers that brick it. Dont bother with builds like CoC, its mot worth at this state of the game

    • @ianjohnson3274
      @ianjohnson3274 6 днів тому +3

      this is for poe 1, not 2. trigger skills are the pinnacle of most builds as far as dps goes in poe 1

    • @Zylosio
      @Zylosio 6 днів тому

      "Having to spent mana ruins my build"

    • @sammyjenkis5260
      @sammyjenkis5260 5 днів тому

      @@ianjohnson3274 they are not

    • @sammyjenkis5260
      @sammyjenkis5260 5 днів тому

      @@Zylosio thats as dumb of a reply as I would expect

  • @PiggyOnDuty
    @PiggyOnDuty 6 днів тому +2

    First :D

  • @renex1964
    @renex1964 6 днів тому +2

    Let PoE1 rest in peace. Now GGG is cannibalizing PoE2 developers for a 1-month event in PoE1, which looks like Settlers of Kalgur 3.0. I think I'll pass.

    • @SoundsOfSushi
      @SoundsOfSushi 6 днів тому +6

      Ummm no. There’s still a good amount of us who still prefer PoE1.

    • @taylorgravely2004
      @taylorgravely2004 6 днів тому

      Yep. I’m really disappointed in how the majority of the community is receiving the poe1 news, ie upset about them focusing on poe2, and accepting of new Poe 1 content… really a shame.

  • @HarkinsX
    @HarkinsX 6 днів тому +2

    So excited for this event. Too bad no one else is gonna play it because everyone lost all their faith in GGG and no longer support them. :(

    • @StrueSlies
      @StrueSlies 6 днів тому +2

      lmao

    • @worldgeographer1360
      @worldgeographer1360 6 днів тому

      what the fuck are you talking about

    • @learnway8016
      @learnway8016 6 днів тому +4

      Lmao all the people posting crap like that will 100 % be back, because they are addicted and have nothing else that is even remotely close in quality.

    • @HarkinsX
      @HarkinsX 6 днів тому +5

      @learnway8016 yeah was sarcasm. I witnessed the great harvest nerf that made "70" of the community quit.

  • @taylorgravely2004
    @taylorgravely2004 6 днів тому

    Man can we move on to poe2? Is the majority of the poe community really as dense as they’ve shown over the past week? clinging to the old version of the game that we’ve explored every nook and cranny of, and giving up on the new version of the game that’s still in pre release and has had 2 lifetime patches? Really disappointing and cringe

    • @ontoverse
      @ontoverse 6 днів тому +4

      You are free to play the incomplete, broken, unpatched and unbalanced game that is POE2 as much as you want, no one's stopping you. The new players and a large portion of old players are doing just that. However, some of us-- in particular old-school SSF players-- don't think POE2 is any good and will wait for the full release before giving it a proper go. So we went back to POE1, since that's still the best ARPG ever created. It rather seems you don't understand how any of this works, so throwing a word like "dense" around doesn't do you any good.