Honda engines from the 90s are some of the most emotional engines ever made. Yes, they are not Ferrari levels but you have to remember you can afford this and spend just about nothing on maintenance.
@@dexxed674Depends. If you've got a good healthy engine, best to refresh it as early as possible to avoid any potential issues. They do love burning oil and the VTEC solenoid seals do leak oil but not much besides that. Quite economical on fuel too, if you shift pre-VTEC.
"they are not Ferrari levels" - *actually they were*! At the time of the launch of the Honda engine from the 90s, it was hard to find a better engine. When it comes to power, when you count how much horsepower can be extracted from one liter of displacement, the Honda are really close Ferrari (remember that the Civic was created as a cheap car to get from point A to point B). Comparison: B16A: four cylinders, 1.6 liters 160 hp = 100 hp per liter Ferrari F355: V8, 3.5 liters 375 hp = 107 hp per liter They are also easy to tune - big turbo's, compressors, tune parts from other models etc. are like pizza toppings - almost everything fit's. When it comes to durability, Hondas are often used in all kinds of motorsports, from mountain racing, drag racing, track racing, to even professional wreck and off-road racing (yes off road). In car sales advertisements, most Civics have more than 200,000 kilometers and even around 300,000 (Poland). They are often chosen as the first car because they can endure poor treatment and have cheap spare parts. Rust is the only weak point ;P
@@lordzed83 this is facts, in my ek3 one extra person makes it noticeably slower. 4 people in the car at the same time and it struggles to get up to 40 mph
There's definitely something wrong with the tune, engine or a different gearbox, after 200km/h its slower than a stock b16, when he changes from 4th to 5th he's in the powerband of the cams and the engine just stops pulling completely, it feels like there's low compression, also why change the vtec engagement point from 5600rpm to 6000rpm, I know that that is the b16b engagement point but in this car it would be better stock specificaly for b roads. There's videos of stock b16a2 doing a lot faster time on draggy without much of an elevation change. The owner clearly has put a lot of money and effort into the car and it's really nice in general but I think he needs a rebuild with some higher compression pistons and valves to really put it up a notch.
@@glennej9 Fair enough it was just an observation as I said before it's a really nice build and it sounds really good, hopefully in the future you can make it even faster.
@@glennej9 hye... Maybe you should mix it's with B20 engine block. Upper head still use 1.6cc, engine block 2.0cc. GBox change ratios. The way more tork & power. There the recipes. Anyway very nice Civic you're Gleen. Gretting from Malaysia🎉🎉🎉
@@glennej9 these guys do not know what they are talking about.. a stock b16a or even stock b16a2 will never wrap the rpm band like this here built b16a. You can see plenty of videos of stock b16s on here and they are damn near sluggish close to single cam speeds.. with an extra 200 plus lbs passenger, of course it will be sluggish high end.. trust me bro.. there's nothing wrong with this build.. just people don't know cant really tell the speed from video to real life in person. I can see that this b16 is highly modded, the way it picks up kph is far from a stock b16.. great build and one of the quicker b16 out there. People can slap a k series and say its the best engine for days.. but this b16 200hp build is quite unique and well built. Bravo brotha.
I love it, b16 is the best vtec engine if it's about the sound, but like u said it don't feel very fast for 200hp with all those mods, i feel like my stock crx vtec with 150hp is doing pretty same 0-200 there must be something about it, anyway nice video like always
One of my dream cars. The hatch and coupe models of the late 90's to very early 00's will always grab my attention. Finding one in even remotely decent condition is nearly impossible.
Wow bro nice to see you do B16’s Civic ek reviews! That is awesome! Fantastic! Glad i was subscribed to this channel! Very nice vtec sounds thanks!! 90’s hondas are truly a masterpiece for what those little toy cars are!!
B16b box came with exact same 4.4 final drive that's in this car. Only honda that came from factory with a better final drive than this was 98-00 dc2s as they had 4.7. 95-98 dc2 had standard 4.4 as well
Needs the s4c type r gearbox, it geared beautifully for staying in the powerband. I bet you're running into heat soak from that intake as well. I have the type r, car felt quick N/A 185 whp on the dyno. I I know it's nostalgic to whip around in a stock B series, but their inability to keep up with modern sports cars was enough to push me to turbo it after one season. Reliability wise, these motors can take 8-10 psi bone stock for years with the right supporting mods. Very clean build I love the attention to detail
Gearing Ratio's is definitely the best upgrade you can give one of these honda's. If I ever have to rebuild my ASU5 gearbox im putting in some DC5 gears. Because that is definitely the worst part about my CM2.
Everyone should own or drive an old school DOHC VTEC. I had the Euro Civic Vti. The MB6 with the B18C4 (170bhp) in a Rover body. Best £800 I ever spent. like it Max. I like it. That engine bay looks so good. I like it. I do, I like it. It's good. It's a real clean example, Max. I just don't like those lexus style rear lights.
Unfortunately, the engine has a very steep power curve. 200hp...yes but at 9k. At 7k only 160hp. That's why not much happens in 5th gear. For a significantly faster 100-200 time, the owner should set the limiter higher to reach 200kmh in 4th gear.
In this case I think is literally just lack of compression, a stock healthy b16a2 can go from 200 to 230 (redline) a lot quicker than this car, there's videos here on UA-camr where you can clearly see that, the vtec engagement in this car is also changed from 5600rpm to 6000rpm, there's is no good reason for this change even with the skunk 2 cams, imo this engine needs a rebulid or a better tune because it doesn't look like 200 hp and on the top end is actually slower than stock.
@@garra3504 I had stock gearing same as this in a 94 Sir sedan, would happily change into 5th at 190 & pull through to 230kph with less power than this one quoted at, also heavier as it was a full trim 4 door EG9 with subs in the boot, probably 1200kgs.
From the first video of this car you posted a few weeks ago it was obvious this car DOES NOT make 200hp. I'd have a word or two with my mechanic and/or tuner if that was mine. With all these mods the result is not acceptable.
@@lordzed83 ish, b18c4 does have more displacement but the vtec on a b16a head flows better than a gsr head, ITR b18C used a ported B16a head (PR-3). B16 casing will outflow an equivalently prepared GSR by perhaps 5 cfm at .500 lift.
@@ront5689 I am by no means sleeping on this car…I’ve had multiple D, B and H series Hondas BITD. Except my H22 swapped and tuned Del Sol, most of mine weren’t “fast”, but were hella fun. Had a 92 Civic Si with a B18 non-VTEC and GSR trans…wasn’t fast, but one of my favorite cars to take on the twisties👍🏻
Great looking Civic, the only thing I would personally charge are the Rear Lights, I don’t like the fully clear look, I don’t think they suit the car, other than that it would be a great Daily driver, take care guys.
Was the Kia turbocharged? Then it would most likely made much more torque. I got my stock B16 swapped EJ9 a few times into rev limiter in 5th gear at ~240-245 (gps maybe 225 :D) I think this civic does not have 200 hp or is not tuned perfectly
You sure it has 220bhp? My Audi a6 with 170bhp has a higher top speed with like 6-700 more kg. It does have 370Nm but that shouldnt affect top speed too much if I understand the difference between Torque and Horsepower..
Love this car. The sound is immaculate. Nothing feels quite as raw as a screaming 90s Honda.
You're right, Honda now uses its V-TEC turbo, it's not as melodious as it used to be
''yEah bUt ItS a 4 cYnLinDeR ItS sUOnD BaD''
- Non car peoples probably.
Wake up
@@clipdiary_ what?
Honda engines from the 90s are some of the most emotional engines ever made. Yes, they are not Ferrari levels but you have to remember you can afford this and spend just about nothing on maintenance.
How reliable are they and does it take very long before you do maintenance fixes?
@@dexxed674Depends. If you've got a good healthy engine, best to refresh it as early as possible to avoid any potential issues. They do love burning oil and the VTEC solenoid seals do leak oil but not much besides that. Quite economical on fuel too, if you shift pre-VTEC.
@@dexxed67490s Honda engines are some of the most reliable engine ever made
@@dexxed674 you can expect over 300,000;miles on a well maintained Honda engine
"they are not Ferrari levels" - *actually they were*! At the time of the launch of the Honda engine from the 90s, it was hard to find a better engine. When it comes to power, when you count how much horsepower can be extracted from one liter of displacement, the Honda are really close Ferrari (remember that the Civic was created as a cheap car to get from point A to point B).
Comparison:
B16A: four cylinders, 1.6 liters 160 hp = 100 hp per liter
Ferrari F355: V8, 3.5 liters 375 hp = 107 hp per liter
They are also easy to tune - big turbo's, compressors, tune parts from other models etc. are like pizza toppings - almost everything fit's.
When it comes to durability, Hondas are often used in all kinds of motorsports, from mountain racing, drag racing, track racing, to even professional wreck and off-road racing (yes off road). In car sales advertisements, most Civics have more than 200,000 kilometers and even around 300,000 (Poland). They are often chosen as the first car because they can endure poor treatment and have cheap spare parts.
Rust is the only weak point ;P
always have and always will love the B series, absolutely amazing engines
That engine bay is soo clean.
It feels slower than mine stock B16A2. The VTEC engage is mapped too. Under the hood, amazing.
wekll hes giot an pasenger i remember haw much weight from extra person felt on my eg6..
Bro its a video
@@lordzed83 this is facts, in my ek3 one extra person makes it noticeably slower. 4 people in the car at the same time and it struggles to get up to 40 mph
@@louieexo Yup fullo loaded You can feel lack of torque its an 1.6na cant expect much honda got away with em due to how light 90s cars ware.
maybe he has longer fifth gear from integra ls
This Civic not only has the best looks but also the sound. Really is worth watching.
That Vtec induction sound is awesome
@@onetwo-xu2jw you should disappear
Love that you guys do the grassroots cars too, not just the super expensive unobtainable stuff.
People’s VTEC
Exactly my thoughts!! Great video indeed i have a b16a2 civic si em1! I know the feeling haha
Had '99 VTi ek4, loved that car, still runing after 20 years
That really is something to have such a clean car in front of your eyes ! Everything looks so good on the exterior
There's definitely something wrong with the tune, engine or a different gearbox, after 200km/h its slower than a stock b16, when he changes from 4th to 5th he's in the powerband of the cams and the engine just stops pulling completely, it feels like there's low compression, also why change the vtec engagement point from 5600rpm to 6000rpm, I know that that is the b16b engagement point but in this car it would be better stock specificaly for b roads. There's videos of stock b16a2 doing a lot faster time on draggy without much of an elevation change. The owner clearly has put a lot of money and effort into the car and it's really nice in general but I think he needs a rebuild with some higher compression pistons and valves to really put it up a notch.
these cams are meant for high compress pistons i knew but i wanna go build motor but still dont know if i wanna go turbo
@@glennej9 Fair enough it was just an observation as I said before it's a really nice build and it sounds really good, hopefully in the future you can make it even faster.
@@glennej9 hye... Maybe you should mix it's with B20 engine block. Upper head still use 1.6cc, engine block 2.0cc. GBox change ratios. The way more tork & power. There the recipes. Anyway very nice Civic you're Gleen. Gretting from Malaysia🎉🎉🎉
Yeah and his vtec engagement looks stock. Maybe it's not really tuned well
@@glennej9 these guys do not know what they are talking about.. a stock b16a or even stock b16a2 will never wrap the rpm band like this here built b16a. You can see plenty of videos of stock b16s on here and they are damn near sluggish close to single cam speeds.. with an extra 200 plus lbs passenger, of course it will be sluggish high end.. trust me bro.. there's nothing wrong with this build.. just people don't know cant really tell the speed from video to real life in person. I can see that this b16 is highly modded, the way it picks up kph is far from a stock b16.. great build and one of the quicker b16 out there. People can slap a k series and say its the best engine for days.. but this b16 200hp build is quite unique and well built. Bravo brotha.
These old Honda engines…. So much soul..
Impressive performance on the Autobahn!
I love it, b16 is the best vtec engine if it's about the sound, but like u said it don't feel very fast for 200hp with all those mods, i feel like my stock crx vtec with 150hp is doing pretty same 0-200
there must be something about it, anyway nice video like always
The best sounding one is the b18 :)
That Noise 😍
@@onetwo-xu2jw ..
Holy shit that engine bay is clean
6:55 Vtec just kick in yoo😂
One of my dream cars. The hatch and coupe models of the late 90's to very early 00's will always grab my attention. Finding one in even remotely decent condition is nearly impossible.
Throughout the years I've had a Renault Megane Turbo, 650i, R8, and now an AMG-GTS and a 720s Mclaren, but this was the funnest car ever. Miss it.
B16 sounds the best 👌🏻
Bro can literally drive every car he wants on the Autobahn.
I from germany btw the Autobahn ist littt
Lightweight Hondas are just awesome 🔥🔥
the MOST beautiful civic I've ever seen! 🥶🥶👍😃
This used to be my mom's car! 😍 Goed gedaan Glenn!
Wat een mooi ding zeg. Prachtig gedaan door de eigenaar.
Gruwelijk wat een geweldig geluid! Schitterende auto!
Bedankt voor deze mooie video!
That engine bay is incredible
I have a D16 y9 , we've been waiting for this one for a long time ❤
Wow bro nice to see you do B16’s Civic ek reviews! That is awesome! Fantastic! Glad i was subscribed to this channel! Very nice vtec sounds thanks!! 90’s hondas are truly a masterpiece for what those little toy cars are!!
needs a short ratio box from a b16b or b18c6, that would keep that engine in the powerband, nice car!
B16b box came with exact same 4.4 final drive that's in this car. Only honda that came from factory with a better final drive than this was 98-00 dc2s as they had 4.7. 95-98 dc2 had standard 4.4 as well
That launch control it's called 2step, slowly get to high rpm in neutral than you can full throttle to sustain that rpm!
Love Honda engines.
Satisfyingly slow. Love it.
Needs the s4c type r gearbox, it geared beautifully for staying in the powerband. I bet you're running into heat soak from that intake as well. I have the type r, car felt quick N/A 185 whp on the dyno. I I know it's nostalgic to whip around in a stock B series, but their inability to keep up with modern sports cars was enough to push me to turbo it after one season. Reliability wise, these motors can take 8-10 psi bone stock for years with the right supporting mods. Very clean build I love the attention to detail
Such an interesting car, love it
I would love if you can drive and review a 99' Honda Civic 1.8 VTi 169hp Euro Fastback
It probably does have 200hp, but at 9000 rpm. When you put it into 5th gear it probably doesnt have enough power at 7000 rpm to go that much faster
Gearing Ratio's is definitely the best upgrade you can give one of these honda's.
If I ever have to rebuild my ASU5 gearbox im putting in some DC5 gears. Because that is definitely the worst part about my CM2.
The Power of dream
V-TEC just kicked in yo.
Looks amazing. Not sure on the power though. I have a standard ep3 and it will do 145 and eventually 150.
Perfect content.
Sounds like ITB's, nice!
❤❤Honda for life❤❤
The engine bay is immaculate holy 🐄
Everyone should own or drive an old school DOHC VTEC. I had the Euro Civic Vti. The MB6 with the B18C4 (170bhp) in a Rover body. Best £800 I ever spent.
like it Max. I like it. That engine bay looks so good.
I like it.
I do, I like it.
It's good.
It's a real clean example, Max. I just don't like those lexus style rear lights.
I've got an mb6 currently that I'm planning to engine swap into an eg civic. Great cars
i like it too my friend
What an experience!
Very awesome 👍
I have a b16a2 low mileage it's awesome 👌
He kinda exaggerated the slowness tho. It’s not a rocket but the b16 does have some pep. And the b16 was 170hp stock.
Looks like it was producing about 140hp tops. Might be something wrong with the engine, but it sounds awesome.
beautiful build.....no such thing as too much grip on a FWD :) lift the rpm on the launch control- she will launch just fine.
NICE CAR
God what an absolute screamer
Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
I think max is in love with the honda civic. Can you blame him?😅
For a 1.6 id say its quite nippy!
if u only hear vtec and dont feel it, then u need a tune. a good tune will seatplant u
14:43 i love that joke!
that sound🤤
The owner should fit a Rotrex so it doesn't lose the typical v-tec sound. It is very slow at high RPMs.
5/6k rpm launch, wil do the job, to me it did haha
Not bad...just change this gear box...thx Max🇵🇹🇳🇱
The owner should be with you in the intro. So much detail missed an owner can help talk through it.
amazing !
My sedan ek4 vti same engine but stock, was faster than that 200kph and up. Nice honda anyway.
Unfortunately, the engine has a very steep power curve. 200hp...yes but at 9k. At 7k only 160hp. That's why not much happens in 5th gear. For a significantly faster 100-200 time, the owner should set the limiter higher to reach 200kmh in 4th gear.
In this case I think is literally just lack of compression, a stock healthy b16a2 can go from 200 to 230 (redline) a lot quicker than this car, there's videos here on UA-camr where you can clearly see that, the vtec engagement in this car is also changed from 5600rpm to 6000rpm, there's is no good reason for this change even with the skunk 2 cams, imo this engine needs a rebulid or a better tune because it doesn't look like 200 hp and on the top end is actually slower than stock.
@@andrepower6 It is definitely slower than my stock B16A2.
@@Koryhunafter 4th gear is definitely slower than stock
@@Koryhun I had 2 stock ek4 vti’s. I couldn’t agree more with you. Really not impressed with this “200hp”!!! Maybe this has longer 5th gear
@@garra3504 I had stock gearing same as this in a 94 Sir sedan, would happily change into 5th at 190 & pull through to 230kph with less power than this one quoted at, also heavier as it was a full trim 4 door EG9 with subs in the boot, probably 1200kgs.
From the first video of this car you posted a few weeks ago it was obvious this car DOES NOT make 200hp. I'd have a word or two with my mechanic and/or tuner if that was mine. With all these mods the result is not acceptable.
I think AutoTopNL needs to get an older honda. The sound of that car is unreal.
Super Thrust.😊😊
Broooo i have the same the 4dr VTI in Karachi>
this needs a b20 bottom end asap.
im amazed someone swapped b16 instead of b18c4 they are cheap and better for mods :P
@@lordzed83 ish, b18c4 does have more displacement but the vtec on a b16a head flows better than a gsr head, ITR b18C used a ported B16a head (PR-3). B16 casing will outflow an equivalently prepared GSR by perhaps 5 cfm at .500 lift.
@@LegerAndCo Still likes NA mods more than b16A. Not sure whats up with this B16A but my EG deffo pulled better pass 200...
@@lordzed83 timing or fueling is probably off but yeah its should be your right...
Let the cows witness the Vtec symphony!!!
Definitely not “fast”, but good God is that sound intoxicating!!
Still faster than most hatchbacks these days
In the real world believe me it will feel pretty quick, fun and responsive
@@ront5689 I am by no means sleeping on this car…I’ve had multiple D, B and H series Hondas BITD. Except my H22 swapped and tuned Del Sol, most of mine weren’t “fast”, but were hella fun. Had a 92 Civic Si with a B18 non-VTEC and GSR trans…wasn’t fast, but one of my favorite cars to take on the twisties👍🏻
👍 Very Nice 👍
is it ej9 or ek3 ?
Perfect 👏 👏
hoooooooOOOONDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
Great looking Civic, the only thing I would personally charge are the Rear Lights, I don’t like the fully clear look, I don’t think they suit the car, other than that it would be a great Daily driver, take care guys.
The car looks amazing, but at fifth looks a bit slow, at least comapred to my eg9
That spoiler at high speeds its like a parachute, it could be a nice test uninstall it and try again.
I had a tuned stage 1 Kia Ceed with 180 PS 235 Kmh GPS topspeed and this way lighter 200 PS car makes topspeed ?
Was the Kia turbocharged? Then it would most likely made much more torque. I got my stock B16 swapped EJ9 a few times into rev limiter in 5th gear at ~240-245 (gps maybe 225 :D)
I think this civic does not have 200 hp or is not tuned perfectly
@@robsenb16 yes 1.4 L Turbo 180 PS and 280 NM, topspeed in 5 gear and 6 gear, in 6 gear 4500 rpm.
Wait Max says cows love Vtec
Are you sure it weights only 860kg, stock EK4 weights 1135kg
He did say 960kg later but even then that could be a slight exaggeration.
exhaust type??? :)
Can i see all the listed car 13:04?
Definitely don’t have 200hp, it’s slower than an Abarth and those Hondas are much better aerodynamically than a fiat 500.
It's lacking compression clearly
Even a 2018 Swift Sport was listed @32 seconds 100-200
How does it only have 168nm of torque? My 1.4 Golf 6 with 122hp had more than that…
i have to say "beautifull"!
You sure it has 220bhp? My Audi a6 with 170bhp has a higher top speed with like 6-700 more kg. It does have 370Nm but that shouldnt affect top speed too much if I understand the difference between Torque and Horsepower..
Rear lights look horrible. should put some smoked ones in there.
That's because I didn't have laptop. Imagine if it had
H o o o o n d a a a a a a a . . .
jdm forever
Man you can eat off that engine 😮
those wheels are kinda balls
:)
🙂
:D
(this post was made by kosei K1 gang)
She's a screamer!
4:20 was that a fart or am i trippin
The sound is produced by the shoe moving on gavel
Bro got caught in 4k💀🤣
probably transmission limits the car
Beautiful sound 🥰🥰🥰
bruh that car took longer to hit 200 km/h than my stock 2020 civic XD