@@sladedari8595 oh I know, I just mean he's a nice lil automatic piece of content lol, even for himself. I love VoiD videos regardless though. Fun ass personality.
@@LostCoin1no one should ever care anytime. As long as it's used in a friendly context amongst people you're cool with. It's always been that way since I was a kid. Grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood as a kid and none of my friends gave a fuck when I said it literally every day. People are too soft now days. Lol
@@dennisd.4726 see i am more of the opinion that no one should say it as all it does is degrade the culture with senseless vulgarity. Words have meaning and i understand meanings can change but to hold two diametrically opposed views of the word is just not a functional basis. That said, i don't think his career should end over it. I think forgiveness can and should be shown in such scenarios, but we can atleast acknowledge wrong doing.
9:20, yeah as a lucina player, i learned about that quickly against Bowser in 4, when i heard Kazuya's wasn't nearly as strong it was the first thing i labbed when he came out
"It's just like tekken" In that case yeah, just like VoiD said, we have a *lot* more to take into consideration. If that were the case, then: Kirby's copy abilities would be more fleshed out since they change essentially his entire kit in his games. Also he'd have the slide kick and the air gun, at least. Every pokemon would have critical hits on every pokemon move, just like Hero. Same with Cloud, and I believe the FE characters too Incineroar should be much faster since its base speed is identical to both Pichu's and Ivy's. By the same logic, Squirtle has a lower base speed so it should be slower Robin should be faster (y'all can confirm that, I know I've just heard it from a FE Awakening Fan) There are others, these are just the ones from the top of my head
I mean doesn't Steve do 40% as well from a single running jab? Kazuya combos are broken af, but the short ones that do 40% doesn't seem to bad. Not far off what other characters get from spamming a safe neutral air.
Well that’s only at low percent and you can easily SDI his running jabs. Kazuya deals 40%+ before the combo is even over, which at worst is electric > nair > electric. Doesn’t help that SDI is basically useless against Kaz and DI gives you at best a 50/50. Knockback also doesn’t significantly affect most of his combos. No other character in the game removes nearly all interesting aspects of Smash’s combo system in favor of pure consistency. It’s not fun to watch and it’s definitely not fun to fight.
I don't know man, I've played Smash for a long time and I go to tournaments in Sweden, granted it is not like a top tier country for Ult but I think Kazuya is much harder than the other characters. It's probably because he plays very differently. I can do electric easily but I think the awareness needed to play him is quite a bit above most of the roster. Reacting to DI lines as often as you need to with him and knowing your confirms etc is much harder to me than the other characters. I don't think the combos themselves are harder than Sheik or anything, it is just other parts of him that makes it hard to me, also his disadvantage I have a hard time with. *Don't get me wrong, I think he is broken but I also think there's a reason as to why there are a million Steves with results and only one Kazuya.*
There's definitely more than just Riddles but yeah, there's about 6 note worthy ones right now. Compared to Steve and other characters he's a bit more niche.
No, riddles is not even the best kazuya. Watch this kazuya dittos for riddles vs tea ua-cam.com/video/rJUe2hyQDIk/v-deo.html. You can see tea can do footstool combos to read 1 less time di for 0 to death combos and also he used the wavebounce down-b and side-b reverse to catch the riddles landing. Riddles might be the best Terry, but definately not the best kazuya at all.
Tea, Acola, Axium XL, Ferps.... And those are just the notable ones I can name off the top of my head. There is more top representation that just riddles, both as a main or as a secondary.
I agree with Void on Kazuya, hate to see em, why does he have so many moves and the stupid combo extensions, the unDIable attacks, tough guy and this isn't even an exhaustive list of all the crimes against balance that Kazuya does on a daily basis.
I love when I hit kazuya with a smash attack on a whiffed attack, only to be down B grabbed anyway and die at 70%. I just started picking Terry against my kazuya main friend since at least he gets broken ahit as well
As a spectator I don't find Kazuya entertaining to watch at all. I know he's just gonna shuffle around the stage, do an electric, do a nair, into the same damn efficient combo ooover and over again. But it really does have the Tekken spirit. Have a ton of different moves only to really just use a fraction of them.
All these smash4/ultimate pros are so insufferable. Whenever somebody takes a character to the next level they all start to complain until eventually the character gets nerfed. Just adapt. Or also pick that character. If it's as braindead, easy, cheese, as you claim, why not pick up the character yourself and make the thousands of dollars that riddles is making from maining big boss kazuya Mishima. I'm "not recommending" this channel and sticking with nice wholesome guys like wadi and Larry.
Simple, playing against Kazuya is cringe. You get touch to death'd of a single mistake which hasn't been fun in any game ever. Along with that, maybe people don't enjoy playing a disgustingly boring character. Same goes with Steve, no one likes playing against him. Those are crimes against gameplay
Bro even Kazuya players are fully aware of how dumb the character is. Obviously, the players will eventually play better and adapt, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't complain about how dumb a character is.
I think the fact that people genuinely realized bayo wasn't okay in smash4 real quick but are getting hype for kazuya and steve's bs says a lot about the degeneration of our society
Except smash 4 bayo was just about 10X worse then the 2 combined lmao Oh and don’t worry the ultimate community has made it it’s duty to: shit talk, belittle, stigmatize, straw man, and all round seeth at just about literally any ult character that isn’t a rush down brawler 🙂
I love that any time Leo goes anyone but Byleth it's immediate content for Smashtubers and such lmao.
Void also just loves Marth
@@sladedari8595 oh I know, I just mean he's a nice lil automatic piece of content lol, even for himself. I love VoiD videos regardless though. Fun ass personality.
“I don't wanna play Aegis, they hurt my hands” - a sheik player
Like what? 😂 that is wild from him
"Maybe Melee Fox isn't that bad..." LOL Dkick UpKick Electric is just evil fam
I have seen like 10 videos of this 1jd it still doesn't get old. I love Marth.
Didn’t expect Sheiks first 2023 video to be a smash video
The pausing and unpausing right after 4:30 had me weak lmaoo
riddles has so much potential and he is goated already
As long as he doesn't say richter again he should have a good future. Granted, no one cared the first time.
@@LostCoin1no one should ever care anytime. As long as it's used in a friendly context amongst people you're cool with. It's always been that way since I was a kid. Grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood as a kid and none of my friends gave a fuck when I said it literally every day. People are too soft now days. Lol
@@dennisd.4726 see i am more of the opinion that no one should say it as all it does is degrade the culture with senseless vulgarity. Words have meaning and i understand meanings can change but to hold two diametrically opposed views of the word is just not a functional basis.
That said, i don't think his career should end over it. I think forgiveness can and should be shown in such scenarios, but we can atleast acknowledge wrong doing.
He lost to marth .. KEKW
Carried
"I don't care how good or bad kazuya is he should not have double the moves as a normal smash character" I agree void 11:25
9:20, yeah as a lucina player, i learned about that quickly against Bowser in 4, when i heard Kazuya's wasn't nearly as strong it was the first thing i labbed when he came out
You mean Tough Guy?
The ganon reverse 3-0 at the end lol
I agree about Kazuya. If Smash was going for accuracy then Steve would only be able to create blocks that are on solid ground.
"It's just like tekken"
In that case yeah, just like VoiD said, we have a *lot* more to take into consideration. If that were the case, then:
Kirby's copy abilities would be more fleshed out since they change essentially his entire kit in his games. Also he'd have the slide kick and the air gun, at least.
Every pokemon would have critical hits on every pokemon move, just like Hero. Same with Cloud, and I believe the FE characters too
Incineroar should be much faster since its base speed is identical to both Pichu's and Ivy's. By the same logic, Squirtle has a lower base speed so it should be slower
Robin should be faster (y'all can confirm that, I know I've just heard it from a FE Awakening Fan)
There are others, these are just the ones from the top of my head
Mk Leo's Marth is goated
Void:¿what is that fair?
Sakurai:that’s the thing,it’s not.
lmao void hates kazuya so much.
feel your pain, brother 😂
I LOVE YOU VOID PLEASE KEEP PLAYING SMASH AT LEAST OCCASIONALLY
I like how your videos have actual game knowledge in them
I was just watching an old smash 4 set of you vs leo at 2gg zero saga. Gameplay was very impressive. Your sheik and his marth, man.
Ignaize did it too. Ignaize is better with Marth than Leo could ever dream of being.
Void ultimate content this is the best day ever
The good ending
To me, watching Kazuya feels like watching Ice Climbers in Melee/Brawl
Ima be honest the weed definitely kicked in during the Marth gameplay
I’m glad you’re posting all these on yt
I mean doesn't Steve do 40% as well from a single running jab? Kazuya combos are broken af, but the short ones that do 40% doesn't seem to bad. Not far off what other characters get from spamming a safe neutral air.
Well that’s only at low percent and you can easily SDI his running jabs. Kazuya deals 40%+ before the combo is even over, which at worst is electric > nair > electric. Doesn’t help that SDI is basically useless against Kaz and DI gives you at best a 50/50. Knockback also doesn’t significantly affect most of his combos. No other character in the game removes nearly all interesting aspects of Smash’s combo system in favor of pure consistency. It’s not fun to watch and it’s definitely not fun to fight.
I don't know man, I've played Smash for a long time and I go to tournaments in Sweden, granted it is not like a top tier country for Ult but I think Kazuya is much harder than the other characters. It's probably because he plays very differently. I can do electric easily but I think the awareness needed to play him is quite a bit above most of the roster. Reacting to DI lines as often as you need to with him and knowing your confirms etc is much harder to me than the other characters. I don't think the combos themselves are harder than Sheik or anything, it is just other parts of him that makes it hard to me, also his disadvantage I have a hard time with.
*Don't get me wrong, I think he is broken but I also think there's a reason as to why there are a million Steves with results and only one Kazuya.*
There's definitely more than just Riddles but yeah, there's about 6 note worthy ones right now. Compared to Steve and other characters he's a bit more niche.
No, riddles is not even the best kazuya. Watch this kazuya dittos for riddles vs tea ua-cam.com/video/rJUe2hyQDIk/v-deo.html. You can see tea can do footstool combos to read 1 less time di for 0 to death combos and also he used the wavebounce down-b and side-b reverse to catch the riddles landing. Riddles might be the best Terry, but definately not the best kazuya at all.
Tea, Acola, Axium XL, Ferps.... And those are just the notable ones I can name off the top of my head. There is more top representation that just riddles, both as a main or as a secondary.
nairo ganon vs light being the recommended video for void killed me 💀💀💀
That video is peak ultimate for me
That was hbox yelling I saw a twitter clip of everyone’s reactions
Never gets old his reactions, im sure there's a good reason he doesn't main marth
Nah all jokes aside melee fox is that bad
Y’all we need a HOO HAA but for down kick up kick electric
I agree with Void on Kazuya, hate to see em, why does he have so many moves and the stupid combo extensions, the unDIable attacks, tough guy and this isn't even an exhaustive list of all the crimes against balance that Kazuya does on a daily basis.
"He needs it" - Sakurai
Don't forget the strongest reflector in the game with a fucking kick. Why
I love when I hit kazuya with a smash attack on a whiffed attack, only to be down B grabbed anyway and die at 70%.
I just started picking Terry against my kazuya main friend since at least he gets broken ahit as well
Kazuya isn’t even the best character in the game, don’t forget that lovely fact
@@deeplightv880 he is the second best toxic character in the game after steve. Both suck out all the fun of playing the game
Making kazuya was a mistake from smash.
Leos face says it all @3:28
Wait why does he have tough guy?
He is a tough guy
He needs it
He needs it obviously
the recommended LUL
This isn’t multiversus
Multiversuzzz
No shit
Homie was a smash UA-camr first
You're right it's clearly NASB
Platform fighting game player
Yes smash content!
My boy Void barely commented the match
Upload a Melee vid pls.
Lies my Marth could pull it off
"He just did 42% on a combo that is not DI-able"
Wait until Void sees Tekken's combo damage.
Except almost everyone has combos that do high damage in tekken, not just Kazuya. Though a handful have more than just high damage.
Wait til he does the math again between 88 and 124
I describe Kazuya as “He Needs It.” The Character
he is the embodiment of dlc privilege i can not stand riddles after he picked up kaz
Nah melee fox IS that bad lmao. Maybe only slightly better.
In terms of how broken he is? Yeah pretty much
Multiverse player reacting to smash, pog.
Kazuya execution is hard bro
Lmao his math it’s 36. 124-88=36. When he talked about the dumb combo Kazuya can do
hol up
"I don't think anything bad's happened to me in ultimate." well except drop out of PGR top 10 and have to switch games
shots fired
He was ranked 9th before Pichu got gutted
Why are there any people that don't think kazuya is cringe af?
As a spectator I don't find Kazuya entertaining to watch at all. I know he's just gonna shuffle around the stage, do an electric, do a nair, into the same damn efficient combo ooover and over again. But it really does have the Tekken spirit. Have a ton of different moves only to really just use a fraction of them.
That's definitely a Riddles thing. Looking at Tea and Axiom they have entirely different play styles.
Watching kazuya land cheese zero to deaths isnt fun to watch lets be real
Kazuya has never been fun to watch. I liked riddles when he played Terry a lot more, even if he is also a braindead mashlord.
I feel like kazuya has an unfair advantage with those combos, but I like watching any combo on any character looks good if done properly
I find it rather entertaining.
Even a kid with no hands can play kazuya and do 0 to death.
Idk why all those twitch boys were hating on poor ridleys 😂 if anything just hate kazuya
All these smash4/ultimate pros are so insufferable. Whenever somebody takes a character to the next level they all start to complain until eventually the character gets nerfed. Just adapt. Or also pick that character. If it's as braindead, easy, cheese, as you claim, why not pick up the character yourself and make the thousands of dollars that riddles is making from maining big boss kazuya Mishima. I'm "not recommending" this channel and sticking with nice wholesome guys like wadi and Larry.
Well there will be no more patches for ssbu and hey alright support the brother Wadi, hes a real one
Simple, playing against Kazuya is cringe. You get touch to death'd of a single mistake which hasn't been fun in any game ever. Along with that, maybe people don't enjoy playing a disgustingly boring character. Same goes with Steve, no one likes playing against him. Those are crimes against gameplay
Bro even Kazuya players are fully aware of how dumb the character is. Obviously, the players will eventually play better and adapt, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't complain about how dumb a character is.
“Or also pick that character” this dude wants smash 4 days where there were all bayo tournaments.
all smash players do is mald and think everything is broken when this game is pretty balanced compared to literally any fighting game ever lol
Where the multiversus
I think the fact that people genuinely realized bayo wasn't okay in smash4 real quick but are getting hype for kazuya and steve's bs says a lot about the degeneration of our society
Except smash 4 bayo was just about 10X worse then the 2 combined lmao
Oh and don’t worry the ultimate community has made it it’s duty to: shit talk, belittle, stigmatize, straw man, and all round seeth at just about literally any ult character that isn’t a rush down brawler 🙂
First
Kaz worst addition to the game of fp2
Steve outcontests by some margin imo but kaz is definitely beyond acceptable for me personally