What if the Twin Towers stayed standing for 3 hours?

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  • @mr.inferno8354
    @mr.inferno8354 6 місяців тому +243

    A firefighter did make it to the 78th floor of the south tower a few minutes before the collapse. I wonder what he could’ve done in those extra hours if he had it.

    • @mintmacaron561
      @mintmacaron561 6 місяців тому +51

      I believe that was Oreo Palmer

    • @ytzpilot
      @ytzpilot 6 місяців тому +11

      The heat and smoke above the impact zone was worse over time, an extra hour anyone would have succumbed to smoke inhalation or the heat with no way to descend, it was a slow death up there for those hanging on the best they can

    • @MattyDardani
      @MattyDardani 6 місяців тому +15

      There was a truck company a floor or two below him. So fire companies were getting there. They could have probably gotten the fires controlled enough to evacuate the floors above. In the north tower would be harder due to the interior collapse of the stairwell. From phone calls to 911 it seems the stairwells were blocked if this is the case the fire department with enough time could have maybe cleared enough of one stairwell to excavate people from above. All they need is to open and hold one stairwell to get people out. If you read the after action report that is what the FD plan was. They knew they couldn’t put out the fires, they figured there was localized interior collapse and thought they had 3-5 hours before the top of one of the towers fell off. They didn’t think a complete collapse would happen especially within the time frame it happened. The name of the game was save as many people as possible then let the fires burn out.

    • @balthazarbratt8194
      @balthazarbratt8194 6 місяців тому

      Take one person down?

    • @mr.inferno8354
      @mr.inferno8354 6 місяців тому +5

      I was thinking that the extra time would’ve allowed for more people to evacuate. The North Tower’s hit being centered wasn’t going change anything but since the South Tower was off center maybe the survivors like Kevin Cosgrove could’ve maybe gotten help or out since I think he was on the side that was over looking the Hotel. But it might’ve just burned him alive and the collapse might’ve been a better outcome than just slowly burning or suffocating to death.

  • @ruthking7884
    @ruthking7884 6 місяців тому +121

    The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was still on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 6 місяців тому +15

      It's heartbreaking, difficult to listen to, you can hear the fear.

    • @sarahTOORbubs
      @sarahTOORbubs 5 місяців тому +8

      Agree. Kevin’s on my mind so much.

    • @bingobaz6402
      @bingobaz6402 5 місяців тому +5

      Yeah worst thing about that video apart from the fact he died, is he knew they were not coming "it doesn't feel like it". He knew the call handlers reassurances were empty. It wasn't their time , this wasn't meant to happen..but ... it did.

    • @sisiluv199
      @sisiluv199 5 місяців тому

      ​Its always the time if happened.... God knows only our last day for our test ​@@bingobaz6402. Time dosnt control GOD ,GOD CONTROL THE TIME

    • @missraeray
      @missraeray 4 місяці тому

      I remember when I first heard it. You could hear the floors collapsing above 🥺

  • @jamiethornton6101
    @jamiethornton6101 6 місяців тому +160

    One of the most amazing survival stories was from the south tower. His group started going down right away and that staircase was one that was demolished from the impact. So his group went up. He said lots of people in the upper floors were going up, because the smoke was so bad inside the stairwell. They went up to the 80's and his co workers were just sitting on the stairs, even passing out. After about five minutes of sitting there, he decided to go inside the floor and try another stairwell. He picked the one that wasn't demolished and got all the way out. My point being a lot of people made the mistake of going up.

    • @daniellim8964
      @daniellim8964 6 місяців тому +29

      The idiot who gave the grave announcement, to tell people they need not evacuate the tower that got hit later, had a severe misunderstanding of events.

    • @_kaleido
      @_kaleido 6 місяців тому +38

      @@daniellim8964 well I think it’s important to remember that until the moment the second plane hit the South Tower, people thought it was just a freak accident with a small plane. The authorities were worried that a mass evacuation of the South Tower would clog up rescue efforts for the North Tower, or worse, evacuees would be hit by falling debris/people. obviously now we know that it would’ve been better to evacuate either way but hindsight is 20/20 and all

    • @mariekatherine5238
      @mariekatherine5238 6 місяців тому +15

      With fire, always go down. Think of being in a chimney. Where does the smoke go? Up. RIP to the man scaling down the outside.

    • @conpop6924
      @conpop6924 6 місяців тому +5

      Yes Ron difrancesco. He was with Brian Clark. Ron went down with Brian at first to help the voice they heard on the 81st floor which was Stanley prainmath, but just couldn’t take the smoke so he went back up. Eventually as you said his co workers started to pass out and he decided to go back down and thankfully made it out. He is believed to be the last or one of the last people to make it out of the south tower before it collapsed

    • @teijaflink2226
      @teijaflink2226 6 місяців тому +4

      The conditions where probably very difficult, smart and brave of him to try another stairwelll though, unfortunately many didn't find it. Shame he didn't ask more people to follow him but then he probably though it was broken too.

  • @adamtroicuk8822
    @adamtroicuk8822 6 місяців тому +570

    If it stays up for 3 hours you’re supposed to see a doctor ASAP

    • @Centinily
      @Centinily 6 місяців тому +14

      WOW

    • @freschcookable
      @freschcookable 6 місяців тому +14

      Lmfao

    • @Trista5
      @Trista5 6 місяців тому +10

      Oh my god 😂😂

    • @StrykThaScene
      @StrykThaScene 6 місяців тому +4

      Wow just straight up like that

    • @RPKGameVids
      @RPKGameVids 6 місяців тому +15

      Mine wont stay up for 3 seconds so I should also see a doctor.

  • @dxd8663
    @dxd8663 6 місяців тому +48

    This situation was tested in the NIST report, which is available in the public domain. They theorised that the fires would most likely burn out relatively quickly and the structural steel would decrease in temperature, regain strength and probably not cause a total collapse. The visible fires in the North Tower were largely gone by the time it collapsed with the exception of floor 92.
    NIST excerpt;
    "In WTC 1, if the fires had been allowed to continue past the time of building collapse, complete burnout would have likely occurred within a short time since the fires had already traversed around the entire floor, and most of the combustibles would have already been consumed."

    • @Dark-ql7kn
      @Dark-ql7kn 6 місяців тому +4

      So basically it suffocates itself out

  • @jl91iii
    @jl91iii 6 місяців тому +37

    Always been grimly fascinated by 9/11 and the horror and heroism of the day. Thanks for these videos.

  • @Todd-um9bo
    @Todd-um9bo 6 місяців тому +55

    I have been binge-watching 9/11 jumpers and I cannot sleep anymore. I am traumatized.

    • @laurendifilippo3666
      @laurendifilippo3666 5 місяців тому +1

      I’ve been trying to find some new footage but no luck if you have any tag me please

    • @itachiuchiwa6875
      @itachiuchiwa6875 5 місяців тому +9

      Its a very traumatizing and damaging experience to see those photos and videos but for some reason I am unable to look away once I see it...

    • @TNS17
      @TNS17 5 місяців тому

      @@laurendifilippo3666You probably wont find much until around 2027. The investigation into Khalid will expire. An extended invesitgation was granted but expires in 2027. This means a LOT of footage, which has seemingly been wiped from the internet, including the infamous “lol superman” will be available to the public.

    • @smf2072
      @smf2072 5 місяців тому +1

      If you weren't that'd be cause for concern.
      Have you seen "Falling Man?"

    • @Digitalgems9000
      @Digitalgems9000 5 місяців тому

      better go get that ptsd disability check buddy!

  • @iMarsiTV
    @iMarsiTV 6 місяців тому +76

    A video about Edna Cintron the women that was pictured standing on the broken beams in the impact zone of the north tower would be interesting, its crazy to imagine how she must have felt looking down standing right on the edge, waving for help.

    • @mylife1221
      @mylife1221 6 місяців тому +7

      She should just be called "the waving woman", because it isn't confirmed to be Edna Cintron. It could have also been Jeanette LaFond-Menichino.

    • @posticusmaximus1739
      @posticusmaximus1739 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@mylife1221no it's Edna

    • @Bleww6207
      @Bleww6207 6 місяців тому +9

      There is a video on UA-cam already about her. It’s called “The Waving Woman”. It’s a good watch.

    • @iMarsiTV
      @iMarsiTV 6 місяців тому

      @@Bleww6207 i know that and i know about the controversy, there are videos about some topics ginger talks about too, but i just want to hear his opinion about the waving woman or as many are sure Edna Cintron

    • @mylife1221
      @mylife1221 6 місяців тому

      @@posticusmaximus1739 The evidence says it could be otherwise. We shouldn't assume her identity if it's not fully known.

  • @drosera88
    @drosera88 6 місяців тому +43

    That skinny part of the tower you talk about possibly not being able to climb pass is the mechanical floor. If the climber made it there, he'd have an open air walkway to climb onto and possibly be able to enter the building and reach a stair case.

    • @sodiumvapor13
      @sodiumvapor13 6 місяців тому +1

      Were the mech floors really open to the air like that?

    • @stereohype1
      @stereohype1 6 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@sodiumvapor13yes, they were like open aired terraces. I used to work in a 40 story tower and our mech floors were very similar. Totally possible to climb into. The ledges were like balconies. 100% possible to enter the floor from the exterior facade.

    • @CamcorderHomeVideos
      @CamcorderHomeVideos 4 місяці тому

      ​@@stereohype1 Interesting!

  • @kanash8851
    @kanash8851 6 місяців тому +27

    2:58 about your comment on the sound wave knocking him down, I'd argue it was more the shock wave that got him! You can see the smoke on coming from the north tower puff and warp dramatically the instant that explosion occurred in the south tower. Hell it even caused the fires to flare up a bit! Not only that, shock waves in general tend to travel faster than sound, so it would've won that race to him.

    • @GodfatherJAM
      @GodfatherJAM 6 місяців тому

      It would be like trying hold on during an earthquake. Shaking on ground and the tower.

  • @R32R38
    @R32R38 6 місяців тому +31

    People trapped on the North Tower's upper floors made a large number of 911 and other calls for a while following the impact. By the time the tower finally fell, the calls had almost entirely ceased, evidently because most of the trapped people had already died.

    • @stevenroshni1228
      @stevenroshni1228 6 місяців тому +12

      One of the creepiest thing first responders to the Pause nightclub shooting reported was it was basically a chorus of cellphones ringing until the batteries died.

    • @stevenroshni1228
      @stevenroshni1228 6 місяців тому +1

      We like to do these what ifs isolating one factor (the towers staying up despite the same amount of heat and smoke) but

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 6 місяців тому

      *If I was trapped in that upper area and had no way of surviving, I would have breathed in as much of that acrid, asbestos chemical smoke as possible and did so until I passed out. I'd much rather that than to burn alive or be forced out a window as the people behind were pushing so hard to get to a window to get fresh air. There were no jumpers, those people were pushed out from people behind frantically pushing to get to the window to breathe some fresh air. They clearly didn't jump, they were forced out from desperate people behind trying to breathe. No sane person would jump knowing there's zero chance of survival. They were pushed out from behind 💯%*

    • @oleksandr8482
      @oleksandr8482 6 місяців тому +2

      Maybe its not because they are died but because what sense to call anymore, everyone 100 percent knew what happened at that moment

    • @ruthking7884
      @ruthking7884 6 місяців тому

      The most chilling phone call was from Kevin Cosgrove. It is on You Tube. He was on the phone with 9-11 begging for help when the tower collapsed. You can here him scream out as the collapse starts and then the phone line goes dead. He and two other guys were on 105

  • @garrold7123
    @garrold7123 6 місяців тому +3

    I love the enthusiasm and work going into these alternative universe theories that have been going for such a long time now, great story telling

  • @BMM44KalmarHufflepuff
    @BMM44KalmarHufflepuff 6 місяців тому +65

    I’ve read an article (don’t remember the title) discussing the FDNY on 9/11 and one of the key things that stood out to me was what one firefighter in the article said regarding what happened if the towers stayed up longer. Essentially, and I’m paraphrasing for the most part, the firefighter said that had the towers been standing for several more hours, there would’ve been a few thousand to about 5 thousand firefighters in the towers. Now just imagine the casualties for the FDNY had that been the case and the towers collapsed! (If anyone is familiar with said article, please give a link to it in the comments. Thanks!)

    • @alexlovelock4648
      @alexlovelock4648 6 місяців тому

      I was thinking after several hours, the fires would run out of material to burn, slowly dying. Then maybe FDNY can put out some of the fire, not necessarily all of it. And FDNY did carry hoses up the stairwells, they would have to connect them to a standpipe below the impact zone to get water on the fires. Also, where the steel beams narrow from three into one is 3-4 floors above the ground, so if someone slid down the columns, they may be able to jump 3-4 floors to the ground (better than 90+, obviously) and make sure to land feet first-a big maybe thou

    • @1ramyus
      @1ramyus 6 місяців тому +2

      @@alexlovelock4648 Even if they would connect many hoses up high, I don't think they had strong enough water pumps that would have enough power to pomp up such an immense weight of column of water, let's say to the 80th floor.

    • @MattyDardani
      @MattyDardani 6 місяців тому +2

      If you read the after action report in short they say they couldn’t fight the fires their plan was open and hold one stairwell to get people out then let the fires burn out.

  • @tigtrager6923
    @tigtrager6923 5 місяців тому +6

    I watched the south tower get hit live on tv. Once the smoke cleared enough to see the impact area and the angle that the plane crashed into it, I had a gut feeling that the top wouldn't stay standing long. It pretty much took out one whole corner and caused extreme damage to the other adjacent corners. The north tower took more of direct impact in the middle. I didn't figure both buildings to completely collapse. A major problem for both though was 70,000 lbs of burning jet fuel that went down the elevator shafts and into the lobby of both buildings. Such a sad day.

    • @sladwig4094
      @sladwig4094 4 місяці тому

      70,000 lbs. of jet fuel. A backyard 20 foot diameter swimming pool 5 feet deep. How much of it made it down to the lobby 1000 feet below impact in the elevator shafts? The shafts were offset.

  • @life5161
    @life5161 6 місяців тому +16

    One of the weirdest channels EVER! That's what makes it Awesome. 🍻 cheers

  • @Kyle_Lurz
    @Kyle_Lurz 6 місяців тому +14

    More and more jumpers would’ve kept falling if the building never came down

  • @goobi3780
    @goobi3780 6 місяців тому +31

    Can you imagine if the man who scaled the North tower actually reached the ground? He’d make millions off of the story, but the survivor’s guilt would have been insane.

    • @trickolas78
      @trickolas78 6 місяців тому

      Whats it to you how much he would profit from it?

    • @goobi3780
      @goobi3780 6 місяців тому +1

      @@trickolas78 Think about it, they’d probably make a movie about him, he could write a bestselling book. Wouldn’t you want to get a chance to hear a firsthand account?

    • @fitzcaraldozito
      @fitzcaraldozito 6 місяців тому +5

      Survivor's guilt??! If he'd achieved this, he could legitimately feel like a king for the rest of his life.
      It would have been one of the biggest exploit ever accomplished by a human....

    • @goobi3780
      @goobi3780 6 місяців тому +1

      @@fitzcaraldozito I mean if all of my friends and colleagues died, and I left them behind I’d feel guilty

    • @fitzcaraldozito
      @fitzcaraldozito 6 місяців тому +2

      @@goobi3780 It's useless to say this situation was unreal and beyond catastrophic and desperate.
      For people above the impact zone in the North tower, there was absolute no chance of survival, except trying this almost impossible descent on the facade.
      Of course, impossible to take someone on your shoulders while doing this (!)
      You may feel guilty if you escape by the stairs, hear someone crying for help but give him no rescue because you're too scary for example, when you think you could have perhaps saved someone ; not in this case.

  • @jamessmith1652
    @jamessmith1652 6 місяців тому +12

    I'm amazed those in north tower top section could not break the door to the roof. it must have been extremely strong, I always think roof access should be made easy in an emergency. If south tower hadn't collapsed so soon I believe a helicopter rescue would have been attempted. They would not have ignored people waving from the rooftop.

    • @Mrd9960
      @Mrd9960 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah they attempted to do that, but no one was on the roof and the black smoke was blinding and suffocating, it would have been nearly impossible.

    • @jonathanlandau-litewski7405
      @jonathanlandau-litewski7405 6 місяців тому +6

      To exit my building, you have to press a button on the wall to release the door. You could kick and kick for hours but there is no getting that door open without pressing that button. Same as in the tower. Plus after the '93 bombing, there were fears that a helicopter with explosives could land on the roof so they purposely added obstructions to prevent easy landing.

    • @horsesboy
      @horsesboy 5 місяців тому

      They evaluated making an attempt and the determination was that between the smoke the updraft from the heat and the down blast from the shopper's rotors that there was to much of an danger of an accident and a chopper hitting the tower could have made the situation significantly worse quicker.

  • @jwwarner7862
    @jwwarner7862 6 місяців тому +42

    Video suggestion: What if the planes hit lower on the towers?

    • @robertspony9156
      @robertspony9156 6 місяців тому +21

      Spoiler alert, more people would've died

    • @posticusmaximus1739
      @posticusmaximus1739 6 місяців тому +4

      Follow up question: what if the planes hit higher, 100 - 110th floor. Both towers

    • @moonloving_starlight4067
      @moonloving_starlight4067 6 місяців тому +9

      @@posticusmaximus1739if it did, then it would stay up longer and have a lesser chance of collapsing.

    • @seanbrower6738
      @seanbrower6738 6 місяців тому +3

      I heard instead of collapsing, the Towers would have tipped over.

    • @blackphilipalvarez1305
      @blackphilipalvarez1305 6 місяців тому +3

      The lower you went they would’ve toppled over not downward.

  • @toddkurzbard
    @toddkurzbard 6 місяців тому +8

    One of the things I thought of many years back was, "how did the collapse of the south tower compromise the north tower?" - by which I mean, the south tower collapse must have been equivalent in force to a small earthquake: how much would that have damaged the foundations of the north tower? I don't mean the north tower would have survived minus that force, but that it MIGHT have delayed that second collapse for a while longer.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 5 місяців тому +3

      The foundation in that part of the North Tower was surely stronger after its reinforcement. That corner of the tower was targeted in the 1993 bombing.

  • @stevenroshni1228
    @stevenroshni1228 6 місяців тому +7

    They would be a career in motivational speaking for the person who scaled down the outside and survived. They'd get military honors as a civilian if they managed to help anyone else escape like that

  • @partycity750
    @partycity750 6 місяців тому +10

    More people could have escaped but depending on each tower, if you’re above the impact zone it was near impossible to escape. Especially for the North Tower.

    • @norrinRadd2149
      @norrinRadd2149 19 днів тому

      So most of the casualties would been in the north tower

  • @SJR_Media_Group
    @SJR_Media_Group 6 місяців тому +9

    Former Boeing Everett.... Those airplanes were built in our Plant. When the planes hit Twin Towers and Pentagon, they were obliterated into tiny pieces. All had FULL Fuel Loads because they were going across Country to West Coast Cites. As the Fuel mixed with Air, it became explosive and acted like a Thermobaric AFB (Air Fuel Bomb).
    As the Oxygen was used up, it became Fuel Rich / Oxidizer Lean. The bright fireball exiting far side of Buildings was partially due to this effect. Outside, there was lots of Oxygen and most of Fuel then burned before traveling far. There was still tons of blazing Jet Fuel that went down Elevator Shafts. People floors down were killed or badly burned by this.
    The Massive Impact and Internal Explosion knocked Insulation off Structural Steel and destroying Fire Sprinkler Systems. As temperatures rose, it caused Steel to lose over half of it's strength. Once Progressive Failure started, there was no stopping resulting in complete collapse.

    • @trickolas78
      @trickolas78 6 місяців тому +3

      You ratcheted some bolts which makes you an expert in fuel chemistry 😂

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 6 місяців тому +5

      @@trickolas78 Thanks for the chuckle... based on lack of anything on your profile including a real name, profile photo, background, education, subscribers, or even any content... guess that makes you an expert in Tiki Travel... I have 3 advanced degrees and almost done on 4th. I studied Engineering and Architecture. I was a SME (subject matter expert) at Boeing in several critical systems including Lean Manufacturing. I started at Boeing Everett where we make those planes in world's biggest plant. Been to more than 1 plant and spent time in St Louis with F/A-18's and F-15's that required classified clearance. Been in the cockpits of many Boeing aircraft. Guess that makes me more of an expert than you... thanks again... cheers mate.

    • @South_0f_Heaven_
      @South_0f_Heaven_ 6 місяців тому

      @@SJR_Media_GroupSure you do bud. 😂😂😂

    • @South_0f_Heaven_
      @South_0f_Heaven_ 6 місяців тому

      @@trickolas78he also built 3 of the 2 Twin Towers on the weekends as well.
      Heard he also invented the SDF-1 (Super Defense Fortress) when he was only 7 years old.
      Busy guy 😂

    • @SJR_Media_Group
      @SJR_Media_Group 6 місяців тому +2

      @@South_0f_Heaven_ LOL says the guy with fake profile who loves beating up crickets and hamsters, has exactly 1 video, 5 subscribers, nothing else... yup that is really a hill... thanks for chuckle. Now tell me about aircraft, structural steel, and FAB's... cheers mate

  • @erictaylor687
    @erictaylor687 5 місяців тому +3

    I wonder too if responders would have eventually progressed from adrenaline-fueled action to high levels of frustration because the communications were so crossed and bad.

  • @desertweasel6965
    @desertweasel6965 5 місяців тому +4

    They need to have life boats for these sky scrapers. They would stay on top of the building just like life boats and can be lowered with cables down the sides. It would have an operator and these guys would have a job where they simply sit at the top all day. They can operate the boats going down. You could also make a fire extinguishing system where the same type of carts are lowered down the sides, by these carts have fire hoses and a dedicated water source. It could literally stop right in front of the hole and just let loose right into the fire with multiple fire hoses.
    I also thought about air bags at the bottom, but that would still be lethal. You would hit that thing going so fast. I do believe the life boat idea is pretty good, though.
    The life boats would also be enclosed to protect you from heat and smoke.

    • @FerretKibble
      @FerretKibble 5 місяців тому

      Unfortunately the reasons why elevators cannot be used in a fire likely apply...

    • @desertweasel6965
      @desertweasel6965 5 місяців тому

      @@FerretKibble elevators are death traps that travel inside the building structure. These would be on the outside with a support post on each corner of the building. One corner post can operate all life boats in case the building is severed with a plane and it takes out 3 corners. The life boats cranes would be attached to independent mounting beams. That travel all the way down.
      Or, you could make a system of nets at the bottom that come out on large posts so that you could survive a jump from that high. A net is the only thing that can slowly slow you down. Air bags would be just as bad as concrete from those heights.

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 6 місяців тому +15

    It's amazing that those towers managed to stay up as long as they did with all the damage

  • @mvfc7637
    @mvfc7637 6 місяців тому +3

    The problem with central core being damaged is that the stairs would be damaged as well, therefore, even if the towers had stayed standing for three hours, it would have been nearly impossible for the firefighters to reach any survivors from below the impact zones, they would have had to have cone down from the top of the building.

  • @b3j8
    @b3j8 6 місяців тому +5

    Chief Oreo Palmer had other fire crew just afew floors below him on their way up. They likely would have been able to save many. In the North Tower Fire crews probably would have managed to somehow get into the impact area and could have helped any survivors found. However nobody was going to get to those trapped above the impact floors of the North Tower for many hours let alone 3!

  • @bingobaz6402
    @bingobaz6402 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video as usual. Thumbs up. Btw i would love a video on Orio Palmer. It is so great and heroic. Although i dont know of there is anough information for an entire video. But it makes me feel so amazed and happy when i hear how many true life heroes this tragedy brought to the surface. But that guy was amazing. Like many others.

  • @jer0051
    @jer0051 6 місяців тому +8

    Unfortunately I’m sure that most of those people had slippery dress shoes on..

  • @GodfatherJAM
    @GodfatherJAM 6 місяців тому +2

    An eyewitness from the bottom of the impact zone in the North tower said they looked up and saw the stairwell was completely plugged with debris. I thought the scale or jump but now I imagine several stories of rubble. Would need days to get passed with teams.

  • @Livinghopefulandhonest
    @Livinghopefulandhonest 6 місяців тому +5

    Video idea: What if the towers toppled over instead of collapsing

    • @i-Love-CarlyShay
      @i-Love-CarlyShay 6 місяців тому

      The way the plane hit so far up the building is Impossible for it to topped over

  • @shawnwhite3662
    @shawnwhite3662 6 місяців тому +2

    I found the picture he's talking about on Google. The North Tower is still standing with the smoke almost clear from the South Tower collapse.

  • @ebkjosh8240
    @ebkjosh8240 3 місяці тому +3

    2:17 Can we have the link to the video?

  • @JJKEdits635
    @JJKEdits635 6 місяців тому +6

    If that happens, then it will be possible for boms

  • @Collectorfirearms
    @Collectorfirearms 6 місяців тому +5

    Please make a video somewhere of the time when only the north tower stood! I have been researching that myself.

  • @mariekatherine5238
    @mariekatherine5238 6 місяців тому +1

    There would STILL be some people who remained in the building.

  • @shadcovert1160
    @shadcovert1160 6 місяців тому +3

    Love your 911 videos. I'm happy to see young people CARING and telling the story. I was 10 years old. I remember clearly. I've been fascinated ever since. I watch all the docs every year. Do you know where I can find the photos that weren't meant to be public? The graphic, difficult stuff? Yes I am sure, I've seen similar images. I'm not very competent with the Internet so this may sound stupid, should I get a reddit acct? Can I find the images there?

  • @bklynusa2213
    @bklynusa2213 5 місяців тому +1

    With scaling, your muscles would simply give away.

  • @jeasongagnon4332
    @jeasongagnon4332 6 місяців тому +3

    This is wild. You're posting this while I'm stuck in the social media algorithm of 9/11.

  • @soultrain4566
    @soultrain4566 6 місяців тому +1

    Allegedly I've heard that right before the south tower fell, NYPD or FDNY personal going up reported people coming down from the higher floors. Some that chose to go up to try and get to the roof had changed there minds and managed to make it down to 20th-30th floors. If only the tower stayed up longer.

  • @user-mm1nt1it5v
    @user-mm1nt1it5v 5 місяців тому +2

    What video is there of a man climbing down “10-20 floors” of the wtc? Ive only ever seen one video and its of the guy with the rope and he barely makes it one floor when he falls. Ive never heard of anyone climbing 10 floors on video on sept 11.

  • @dsatt57
    @dsatt57 5 місяців тому

    I think more people already moving downward may have survived but it was so chaotic with the police and firefighters not talking to each other and those in both towers either being told to return or to stay in place, I don’t think higher than maybe
    200 more people would have survived.
    It’s easier to look back after all of the scrutiny and guess. But it was complete shock for those living through it.
    I think you would have needed 5 hours more.

  • @benjaminrealy5661
    @benjaminrealy5661 6 місяців тому +1

    100% disagree on this what if. Regardless of collapse or not, smoke did the most killing after the initial impact. Having the longer window may have potentially saved a couple people, but most wouldnt. But the bigger impact would have been more rescue personnel on scene climbing both towers. With 3 hours, even more firefighters from outside jurisdictions would have made it to assist in rescue. Even if no more entered the building, (although i would think considerably more would have) the amount at the base being killed by the collapse would have been significantly higher.

  • @luv2sail66
    @luv2sail66 5 місяців тому

    It’s easy to think 23 years later that things would have worked out differently if the planes had hit at a different floor. That much jet fuel (the hijackers targeted transcontinental flights because of their fuel loads) plus the design of the towers plus the combustible materials, meant the towers were doomed. Maybe a few more people would have escaped, but we will never know.

  • @v90660
    @v90660 5 місяців тому +1

    Video suggestion: John O'Neill

  • @coreyrowe4119
    @coreyrowe4119 6 місяців тому +3

    Video idea: what if the Sears Tower got hit that day

    • @jonathanlandau-litewski7405
      @jonathanlandau-litewski7405 6 місяців тому +1

      Have you read about the Bojinka Terrorist Plot?

    • @coreyrowe4119
      @coreyrowe4119 6 місяців тому

      @@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 It was predicted that over 4,000 would have died if that plot succeeded. Chicago would've been a part of the stage II attack with the bombings on the connecting flights. Apparently at one point during the planning for stage III there were gonna be 8-10 hijacked planes and the Sears Tower likely would've been a target if their original plan had come to fruition.

  • @kanash8851
    @kanash8851 6 місяців тому +7

    Have you ever thought about breaking down footage? Especially things like plane impact footage, collapse, and, in my personal opinion the sort of holy grail, lobby footage! If done correctly I think that could be a good tool to educate on the subject of 9/11. Especially if you include stories relating to that footage and point out key details and frames! Though, youtube might throw a fit and kill off your cash flow :/

    • @MarathonKevin
      @MarathonKevin 6 місяців тому

      Yep, the videos would get demonized

  • @mudman6156
    @mudman6156 6 місяців тому +1

    It still bothers me to this day that these towers collapsed. They should’ve been built stronger. While it’s true that nobody could have predicted what was going to happen, it should have been somewhat obvious that the thin clips used to hold the floor Deirdre’s in place were highly vulnerable to high temperatures and could fail if an entire floor was on fire. It’s doubtful that they ever took into consideration that the fire main, which fed water to the sprinklers, could have been cut, eliminating the sprinklers altogether. Has they encased the cores of these buildings in thick concrete, as well as completely filled in the hollow box beams going up the sides of the two buildings with high strength concrete, they probably would have remained standing. For some reason, making the building lighter in weight was a misguided priority that served no legitimate purpose. A stronger building is always going to be better than a weaker building. You couldn’t give me one of those mega-million dollar condos in those ridiculous skinny buildings.

  • @Julie-hf4ch
    @Julie-hf4ch 2 місяці тому

    the only thing which could have prevented these events from happening is if the weather was bad, cloudy, stormy, rainy..they wouldn't have seen the towers....since the aviation system security wasn't yet as strict as it is today.

  • @JordanPooIe
    @JordanPooIe 6 місяців тому +2

    What if the planes hit the bottom of the towers instead of the top?

  • @Boxofcrap
    @Boxofcrap 27 днів тому

    Can you please tell us what video you watched with a man scaling down? I’ve seen one by WNYW Filmed by Jack T. with a man scaling down the south tower and losing his grip. No towers were falling at this time.

  • @bennymutant
    @bennymutant 6 місяців тому +13

    What if a giant robot Michael Jackson helped hold them up?

    • @South_0f_Heaven_
      @South_0f_Heaven_ 6 місяців тому

      Not sure if he could have done it but Voltron definitely could.

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 5 місяців тому

      ​@@South_0f_Heaven_it would have been Vehicle Voltron, cause Lion Voltron is all the way out on Planet Arus. Good idea though.

    • @South_0f_Heaven_
      @South_0f_Heaven_ 5 місяців тому

      @@mikegallant811 True but Vehicle Voltron sucked. Lion is much better.

  • @mariusz07
    @mariusz07 5 місяців тому

    The towers should have a bridge on the higher ones. Then there is a much greater chance of evacuating people.

  • @mab9614
    @mab9614 6 місяців тому

    Whatever the scenario, the South Tower was doomed.
    The debate, and the biggest “if” is whether the north tower could have survived had flight 11 hit several floors above the impact zone.

  • @BadChad3
    @BadChad3 5 місяців тому

    How the hell was there no sprinkler system in there? That’s wild

  • @shadcovert1160
    @shadcovert1160 6 місяців тому +1

    Question: the earthquake sensors pick up the vibrations of the falls? If Taylor Swift can cause an earthquake....

  • @i-Love-CarlyShay
    @i-Love-CarlyShay 6 місяців тому +1

    What if the north tower survived the attacks

  • @victorpeirce4753
    @victorpeirce4753 6 місяців тому +4

    *The only video I've seen of a guy trying to scale down,gets about half a floor before slipping and plummeting to his death. His slippery work shoes wouldn't have helped him at all. It would have been slippery like he was wearing just socks. I've never ever seen a video where a man scales 1O-2O floors, shimmying down, with his back on one side of wall and feet on the other wall then falls because of the shock of the other tower falling. If he made it 2O floors,he could have got inside one of the open mechanical floors and found a way down below the impact zone. I honestly think you are talking out of your rear about a man scaling down 2O floors, and I seriously doubt any of those office working men would have had the strength to do that,you know how much strength and stamina needed you would need to do that successfully for even 1-2 floors, let alone 1O-2O floors. Impossible, even if your will to live is strong. If it was stone or rock they could shimmy down,it might have been possible,but smooth shiny steel between the windows to try grip with your feet and back with slippery office shoes is impossible. Stop making up stories that never happened.💯%*

    • @George-xb5ey
      @George-xb5ey 6 місяців тому

      Let alone the friction burn on your hands, impossible given the situation

  • @RECHARGED77
    @RECHARGED77 6 місяців тому +2

    the cattening

  • @teijaflink2226
    @teijaflink2226 6 місяців тому

    What if they never fell, wonder if anyone trapped in the North tower could have survived then? I suppose it would have been impossible that they never fell though considering how the towers where structured.

  • @tristan583
    @tristan583 6 місяців тому +1

    How many people were actually able to escape the tower ? And why so much censorship on this event

    • @kananimiranda3376
      @kananimiranda3376 Місяць тому

      Yeah i have never seen an estimate of how many people escaped vs, died. That would be interesting to know if someone made this video, at least an estimate.

  • @kevinhenrichs8271
    @kevinhenrichs8271 6 місяців тому +1

    What if they were made out of concrete?

  • @georgemendez6760
    @georgemendez6760 6 місяців тому

    If you had 3 hours you could have the fire fighters build a bridge from rhe south tower to the north then people could escape that way.... it would be a lot of would and rope but with 3 hours it might be possible to just transfer people

  • @whysoenvious
    @whysoenvious 6 місяців тому

    New video, if the wings or half the plane hit the tower and the rest of the debris flew across midtown. Fire everywhere.
    Or if one of the planes hit the Statue of Liberty

  • @Kevin-no4ok
    @Kevin-no4ok 6 місяців тому

    Make a video what if the firefighters inside the twin towers jumped onto the next stairway

  • @seanbrower6738
    @seanbrower6738 6 місяців тому

    Nice job, as always, man! Something I’ve wondered is, why the Supreme Court building was not targeted. Bin Laden wanted both the Capitol and White House hit, though we’re still not completely sure about which one UA93 was heading for. But how about it? What if Al-Qaeda had six planes that day, one each for the Twin Towers, one for the Pentagon, and one each for all three of the lead buildings of our three branches of government?

  • @quietq1631
    @quietq1631 6 місяців тому +22

    Alternative title: if Larry Silverstein didn't demolished the buildings until 1pm

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue 6 місяців тому +3

      You tomorrow: ☠ (you knew too much)

    • @quietq1631
      @quietq1631 6 місяців тому

      @@Mere-Lachaiselongue look up September 11 -- the new pearl harbor (full movie) it explains all about it

    • @dynamo-l3m
      @dynamo-l3m 6 місяців тому

      sure buddy@@Mere-Lachaiselongue

    • @supermanepic15
      @supermanepic15 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Mere-Lachaiselongue i believe that the fbi assassinated mlk but im still alive, then yall say that you arent paranoid

    • @Leafsdude
      @Leafsdude 6 місяців тому

      Not sure if serious.

  • @i-Love-CarlyShay
    @i-Love-CarlyShay 6 місяців тому +2

    What if flight 175 never made its target
    Lets say flight 175 crash in a another plane on its way to its target

  • @Hydra48
    @Hydra48 6 місяців тому +2

    In two months he's going to make a video titled "What if the Twin Towers were stuck 3 hours later"

  • @j.andrews8960
    @j.andrews8960 5 місяців тому

    if explosives had never been placed throughout the buildings , they would still be standing . Physics , trust the science

    • @crandonborth
      @crandonborth 5 місяців тому +1

      Dont pretend you know anything about "Physics" lmao

  • @ZYXWVUQ992Q
    @ZYXWVUQ992Q 6 місяців тому +3

    They probably would have told them not to evacuate and don’t worry everything’s ok we have it all under control……

    • @pinhomaster8261
      @pinhomaster8261 6 місяців тому +9

      Nah Im pretty sure they would evacuate a building with a fucking hole on it

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 6 місяців тому

      Well they wouldn't have known how long the towers would have lasted at the time - there would have been no difference to what was known before 9.59 am that day.

    • @rikiishitoru8885
      @rikiishitoru8885 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@pinhomaster8261He's referring to how the South Tower wasn't evacuated when the North was first hit

  • @C.A._Old
    @C.A._Old 6 місяців тому +1

    what if twin towers didn't collapsed it after both plane crash it?
    what if twin towers the fire had been extinguished? these are real questions.

    • @doesbadthingsguy2883
      @doesbadthingsguy2883 6 місяців тому

      Ok let me ask you about the second one first of all IT WOULD STILL COLLAPSE

  • @crandonborth
    @crandonborth 5 місяців тому

    What if you got to the roof and just rode it down?? I feel like you could survive

    • @sharronneedles6721
      @sharronneedles6721 5 місяців тому

      Please God let this be a satire comment.

    • @crandonborth
      @crandonborth 5 місяців тому

      @@sharronneedles6721 Gotta think outside the box. 😂🤷‍♂️

  • @goosemcgee6247
    @goosemcgee6247 6 місяців тому +1

    You are really obsessed with the Towers. It's interesting stuff you propose. Are there any aspects of 9/11 that smell fishy to you or are you 100% not buying any of the conspiracy shit?

    • @jimibmore
      @jimibmore 6 місяців тому

      Do some research instead of depending on the corrupt Government sponsored media. He is trying to open people's minds instead of them being media sheeple.

  • @blackphilipalvarez1305
    @blackphilipalvarez1305 6 місяців тому +1

    Why would even wanna monetize a video about the Twin Towers, how selfish are you?

  • @SuperDarq64
    @SuperDarq64 6 місяців тому

    Do a What if they were three towers instead of two next

    • @SFbayArea94121
      @SFbayArea94121 6 місяців тому

      What if there were 5?

    • @gothicboulder
      @gothicboulder 6 місяців тому

      What if the towers were actually made of pancakes

    • @rikiishitoru8885
      @rikiishitoru8885 6 місяців тому

      Imagine if there was a whole complex with 7 towers

  • @davidvalentinmunguiavelez9814
    @davidvalentinmunguiavelez9814 5 місяців тому

    Según lo que he visto los secuestradores no sabían que las torres iban a caer. De haberlo sabido estrellan los aviones más abajo para que cayeran más pronto.

  • @victorpeirce4753
    @victorpeirce4753 6 місяців тому

    *If the towers stayed erect for another 3 hours, so many more firefighters and Police would have died because they would have thought the towers aren't falling let's stupidly go in and get to the floor that's impassable,then do nothing. There was no way they were ever going to extinguish those fires. Each floor has an acre of floor space on fire, times that by 2O, and you have 2O acres of raging inferno that was never going to be extinguished or burn out. It had enough materials in the towers to burn for months. Even if they used water bomber aircraft from above, those fires we're never getting put out. I've never understood why they sent so many firefighters in to the towers. It was such a stupid decision and a certain death sentence. They should have known better that even if they got to the impact zone, there was nothing they could do. Absolute stupidity sending those Men in for a certain death sentence.💯%*

    • @robs4524
      @robs4524 6 місяців тому

      That’s easy to say with hindsight but at the time it would have been impossible to know the extent of the fires raging inside. This was an event that had never occurred before in human history!!

  • @furball192
    @furball192 6 місяців тому +1

    I want to know why there were so many pieces of paper blowing all over the ground. I get an office has paperwork but that seems like so much paper. Is it even all just papers? What did the paper work say?

    • @Blackgeekboutique
      @Blackgeekboutique 4 місяці тому

      It is a lot! But there were a lot of offices in the buildings too belonging to many different companies. I always assumed it was the result of the initial plane impacts hitting or taking out filing cabinets, printers, scanners, etc and maybe the pressure from the impact (there's a video where people in the basement reported their ears popping when one of the planes hit iirc) shattering windows and sucking the papers outward? But now that you mention it, that is a good question.

  • @richardkylary3730
    @richardkylary3730 5 місяців тому +1

    It would be possible for helicopters to carry hundreds of climber ropes and throw them to those above the impact zone to climb down with the ropes to the floors below the impact.

  • @SteveWillNotDoIt1984
    @SteveWillNotDoIt1984 6 місяців тому +4

    ""Hey guys. Today, I'm going to talk about what if the Twin Towers were Transformers and they had transformed out of their stationary building configuration, and into their battle bot configuration just as the planes were approaching. Would the buildings still get destroyed, or Could the Transformers have possibly maybe caught the planes and eliminated them?""

    • @jimibmore
      @jimibmore 6 місяців тому +1

      wtf..are you 10?

    • @SteveWillNotDoIt1984
      @SteveWillNotDoIt1984 6 місяців тому

      @@jimibmore 10? WHY I OUTTA! I'm seventy-seven years old, young man

  • @NYCrails
    @NYCrails 6 місяців тому +4

    What if the titanic hit the twin towers?

    • @SFbayArea94121
      @SFbayArea94121 6 місяців тому

      It would have been a titanic collapse

    • @blackphilipalvarez1305
      @blackphilipalvarez1305 6 місяців тому

      At the bottom, no it would have no affect whatsoever on the tower.

  • @Project_betayu
    @Project_betayu 6 місяців тому +1

    What if the Both towers were filled with IBM wheelwriters?

  • @aubnwa01
    @aubnwa01 6 місяців тому +1

    Maybe, if they'd stayed standing longer, they could've landed helicopters on the roofs & get the doors unlocked to get to any folks still surviving in the upper floors?

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 5 місяців тому

      The South Tower yes, because originally I think they were supposed to have a helipad on the roof of that one (in flight simulator 98 they even put that one in, the helipads tag was XWTC) but the North Tower.... I don't know, the antenna might have been a problem.

  • @VenusIsAbsent
    @VenusIsAbsent 6 місяців тому

    Did bombs destroy it

  • @ariel340
    @ariel340 6 місяців тому +1

    Please make a video on insurance claims and coverages from 9/11. Who got paid and who didn't.

  • @Kevin-no4ok
    @Kevin-no4ok 6 місяців тому

    Make a video of the Greek Orthodox Church in Manhattan after 9/11

  • @camitup
    @camitup 6 місяців тому

    Planes Didn't take down the buildings

  • @kennethc9996
    @kennethc9996 6 місяців тому +2

    What if there were two birds on top of tower 2 when the plane hit 🤔

    • @jtho666
      @jtho666 6 місяців тому +1

      This could potentially change society as we know it

  • @smf2072
    @smf2072 5 місяців тому

    Story suggestion ; What if the twin towers were only 5 stories tall upon completion?

  • @sillkthashocker
    @sillkthashocker 6 місяців тому +2

    Can you do a video on the footage of the Pentagon getting hit by a missle instead of a plane like I thought happened for 20 years

    • @supermanepic15
      @supermanepic15 6 місяців тому

      the reason why the only footage of the plane hitting the pentagon lookssloppy and the only frame of the aitcraft looks like a missile is because the camera was fisheyed lense if you undistort using fisheye lens distortion then you have a clearer angle of a shape representing a 757

    • @stevenroshni1228
      @stevenroshni1228 6 місяців тому

      Everybody knows that the aliens waited around for a 9/11 type situation to throw a missile at the Pentagon to kidnap people.

    • @supermanepic15
      @supermanepic15 6 місяців тому

      @@stevenroshni1228 most sane "critical thinker" (critical thinker as in comes up with the most outrageous and mind boggling scenario)

  • @birdo623
    @birdo623 6 місяців тому +1

    What if the towers knelt down because they were fatigued?

  • @IAspie-o1g
    @IAspie-o1g 6 місяців тому +5

    What if spiderman saved the twin towers 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @lotstodo
      @lotstodo 6 місяців тому +4

      There was originally a scene in Spiderman about the towers but they took it out.

    • @victorpeirce4753
      @victorpeirce4753 6 місяців тому +1

      *If Spiderman saved the Towers, he would have been "Vindicated" 💯%*

  • @camitup
    @camitup 6 місяців тому

    A plane can't go 400mph 4000 thousand feet from the ground it would fall apart

    • @sharronneedles6721
      @sharronneedles6721 5 місяців тому +2

      If this were true then half of trains in the world wouldn't exist.

  • @FlopstinReaves33
    @FlopstinReaves33 6 місяців тому

    I feel like it would be difficult for an architect to give you that assessment about collapse time. They would have to have detailed knowledge about the damage of all structural components.

  • @PaulClipMaster
    @PaulClipMaster 5 місяців тому

    Why do you end your videos in such a rushed and abrupt fashion?

  • @Emmxnuel1017
    @Emmxnuel1017 5 місяців тому

    What if 9/11 happened on New Years Eve?

    • @sharronneedles6721
      @sharronneedles6721 5 місяців тому

      Then I guess it would be called 1/1? Not really sure tbh but that would be a really strange way to do a NYC ball drop.

    • @Emmxnuel1017
      @Emmxnuel1017 5 місяців тому

      @sharronneedles6721 I just think it would be interesting to see how everyone would react in Times Square and how there would be a massive mood shift from a Festive New Years celebration to instant catastrophe.
      Would be an interesting scenario.

  • @frankysalazar6857
    @frankysalazar6857 6 місяців тому +4

    Imagine the person who was taking a 💩 that morning, and as soon as he was letting the next fart out, last thing he hears is an explosion.

  • @camitup
    @camitup 6 місяців тому

    It was Bombs