Water extraction is great. If you really wanted to isolate the humic and fulvic acid, you would take your tea, adjust it to pH 12 with potassium hydroxide, then pH 3 with phosphoric acid. The dark humic acid will settle on the bottom for long-term soil building and the yellow/orange fulvic acid will float to the top for immediate absorption of plants.
Thanks for the video. Just a thought - what if boil this compost in very fine mesh bag (like tea bag) for 15-20 mins. Would be HA quality same as from the coffee machine? Thanks
It is possible that it may concentrate the acids or boil them off if the temp is too high. The reality is that heating is only needed if you wish to not also transfer living biology. Higher concentrations can also be achieved by using no heat and a slightly different procedure. By contrast, you can use a strong filter bag with a large handful of humus media dunked gently in and out of 3 liters of fresh, chlorine free water for a few minutes. The humic and fulvic acids will separate easily. As a precaution, wear protective gloves because the acids will remove oils from your skin. The only other significant difference is that living biology will also transfer using the cold dunk method. I will provide a video for this method very soon. It's been on my mind to do so. Give it a try. In many cases, the living microbes in the cold sift process are gonna be good guys, and the only difference that I've seen is that the heat percolated humic acid is purer and will have no active watermold spores. Therefore, the heat made version has a longer shelf life. If sheflife is no concern, go ahead and cold sift the humus in water and pour off into a plastic container for storage out of full view of the sun. Find me easily for more assistance!
Thank you for such a detailed explanation! Will wait for video to see a cold method extraction. Can I use worm castings instead of humus media? I've read few online documents using humic and fulvic acids extracted from worm castings for trials on lettuce with a very good results. I found a method how to extract humic/fulvic acids from worm castings using KOH (Potassium hydroxide) but not I don't want use inorganic chemical agent.
Holy cow, what an amazingly astute and inspirational question. You know, we make this humic/fulvic acid 2 ways. This video demonstrates how to make it without any living biology included. It is heat santitized out of it after only a few passes through the media. The only true downside is there is some uncertainty about its concentration using either passive, or heated extraction. In my opinion, "if" it could be consumed as a supplement, this would not have much living counterpart to it. But some form of concentration testing would be beneficial nonetheless. Very few humic solids make it into the coffee pot method, whereas the passive "pour thru or gentle dunk" method does produce a lot more solids, and living soil biology as well. I have found that to be somewhat restorative in many circumstances with plants. I am only now beginning to realize the health effects of consuming the foods grown with this life giving substance. It has an intangible ability to help dissolve old leftover salts within soils, mitigate chlorine soil excess and also stratification of seeds. Is there an end to what it can do for a gardener?
I wanna say.. to get a higher concentration, run the solution through the filter and media as many times as youd like. It will darken up with each pass. You can even recharge the media and run it again! To clean out the coffee maker, run some vinager through it, then some clear water and youre good to go.
Put the cow dung cakes in barrel with water for 15 days and get the pure organic humic acid and this works more better..try this.. If using rain water with some jaggery are far better.
I think your loosing a lot of nutrients because of the filter itself, just like with coffee, that's why a French press not only tastes better but is a healthier solution to brewing coffee, just a thought.
This is an acid extract. Not going after the nutrients here at all. It is also sterile. The nutrition part is in the teas and extracts. This represents a way of taking chelating agents (acids) from a rich source (humus). Fulvic and humic acids help plants take in the nutrients we are collecting in the longer process teas and are us3ed for other function as well.. This elixir is added to teas at a rate of 2 ounce per gallon, or less, when I make the feeding teas. So to be clear, we make teas with purpose. A calcium tea, a mushroom tea, a compost tea, and even an immunity tea that steeps for several weeks. The feeding teas contain kelp or fish emulsion as well as biology, and a small amount of dilute fulvic acid that you see here. Also included in the process of repurposing plant matter are the plant juice extractor, and the putrifying composter. No matter is wasted, ever, not even diseases matter. The Fulvic and humic acids are like amends for the fertilizer. Many fertilizer manufacturers use chelation to make iron and other minerals more easily assimilated to the plants. This is a feeding tool an not a food. It has to be taken into context of the entire process. Its like seasoning your food to make it taste better.
I use my garden humus for so much stuff. I extract quite a bit for using it to make seeding media and super soils. Since many gardens are fairly low for humus content, it would be difficult to say if that would be all you may need. But as a comparison, I have a layer which is handily over 6 inch deep in most areas of my gardens. If you have deposits like this, by all means do either a passive cold water extraction from the garden soils, or the heat extraction like in the video. Or you can seek out some old compost and use that too. Either one will produce excellent results. Store for up to a year in a durable jug.
I suggest you watch the linked videos below to understand where humic acid really comes from...ancient deposits that underwent specific molecular changes...not from the bottom of some wood chip pile no matter how old. It is a mined product from New Mexico. ua-cam.com/video/oKzwgJMy0sQ/v-deo.html&si=ajXbfeWnkjaymhgf ua-cam.com/video/qxlotcSrSWQ/v-deo.html&si=t1FYEfPHk2fUM4Vu
Water extraction is great. If you really wanted to isolate the humic and fulvic acid, you would take your tea, adjust it to pH 12 with potassium hydroxide, then pH 3 with phosphoric acid. The dark humic acid will settle on the bottom for long-term soil building and the yellow/orange fulvic acid will float to the top for immediate absorption of plants.
@@anonytuser711 great suggestions!
I love your thinking
Nice ideia! Try to do it using KOH instead of water! It will increase your extraction yield! But doesnt know if machine will “break”
@FraldasDePanoPT I'll give it a go with my cold extract method. Maybe I'll cover that method in another vid, too?
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for the video. Just a thought - what if boil this compost in very fine mesh bag (like tea bag) for 15-20 mins. Would be HA quality same as from the coffee machine? Thanks
It is possible that it may concentrate the acids or boil them off if the temp is too high. The reality is that heating is only needed if you wish to not also transfer living biology.
Higher concentrations can also be achieved by using no heat and a slightly different procedure.
By contrast, you can use a strong filter bag with a large handful of humus media dunked gently in and out of 3 liters of fresh, chlorine free water for a few minutes. The humic and fulvic acids will separate easily. As a precaution, wear protective gloves because the acids will remove oils from your skin. The only other significant difference is that living biology will also transfer using the cold dunk method. I will provide a video for this method very soon. It's been on my mind to do so. Give it a try.
In many cases, the living microbes in the cold sift process are gonna be good guys, and the only difference that I've seen is that the heat percolated humic acid is purer and will have no active watermold spores. Therefore, the heat made version has a longer shelf life. If sheflife is no concern, go ahead and cold sift the humus in water and pour off into a plastic container for storage out of full view of the sun. Find me easily for more assistance!
Thank you for such a detailed explanation! Will wait for video to see a cold method extraction.
Can I use worm castings instead of humus media?
I've read few online documents using humic and fulvic acids extracted from worm castings for trials on lettuce with a very good results.
I found a method how to extract humic/fulvic acids from worm castings using KOH (Potassium hydroxide) but not I don't want use inorganic chemical agent.
Thank you so very much for this teaching. I wonder health wise, do you think this can this be consumed by humans.
Holy cow, what an amazingly astute and inspirational question. You know, we make this humic/fulvic acid 2 ways. This video demonstrates how to make it without any living biology included. It is heat santitized out of it after only a few passes through the media. The only true downside is there is some uncertainty about its concentration using either passive, or heated extraction. In my opinion, "if" it could be consumed as a supplement, this would not have much living counterpart to it. But some form of concentration testing would be beneficial nonetheless. Very few humic solids make it into the coffee pot method, whereas the passive "pour thru or gentle dunk" method does produce a lot more solids, and living soil biology as well. I have found that to be somewhat restorative in many circumstances with plants. I am only now beginning to realize the health effects of consuming the foods grown with this life giving substance. It has an intangible ability to help dissolve old leftover salts within soils, mitigate chlorine soil excess and also stratification of seeds. Is there an end to what it can do for a gardener?
I wanna say.. to get a higher concentration, run the solution through the filter and media as many times as youd like. It will darken up with each pass. You can even recharge the media and run it again!
To clean out the coffee maker, run some vinager through it, then some clear water and youre good to go.
Put the cow dung cakes in barrel with water for 15 days and get the pure organic humic acid and this works more better..try this..
If using rain water with some jaggery are far better.
@@atulk9947 not in my world. Cow dung here is full of environmentally accumulated pfas. I like my plant amends with less of that stuff.
I think your loosing a lot of nutrients because of the filter itself, just like with coffee, that's why a French press not only tastes better but is a healthier solution to brewing coffee, just a thought.
This is an acid extract. Not going after the nutrients here at all. It is also sterile. The nutrition part is in the teas and extracts. This represents a way of taking chelating agents (acids) from a rich source (humus). Fulvic and humic acids help plants take in the nutrients we are collecting in the longer process teas and are us3ed for other function as well.. This elixir is added to teas at a rate of 2 ounce per gallon, or less, when I make the feeding teas. So to be clear, we make teas with purpose. A calcium tea, a mushroom tea, a compost tea, and even an immunity tea that steeps for several weeks. The feeding teas contain kelp or fish emulsion as well as biology, and a small amount of dilute fulvic acid that you see here. Also included in the process of repurposing plant matter are the plant juice extractor, and the putrifying composter. No matter is wasted, ever, not even diseases matter. The Fulvic and humic acids are like amends for the fertilizer. Many fertilizer manufacturers use chelation to make iron and other minerals more easily assimilated to the plants. This is a feeding tool an not a food. It has to be taken into context of the entire process. Its like seasoning your food to make it taste better.
can i use just humus in my garden or must be extraction to get humic and fluvic acids? Thanks.
I use my garden humus for so much stuff. I extract quite a bit for using it to make seeding media and super soils. Since many gardens are fairly low for humus content, it would be difficult to say if that would be all you may need. But as a comparison, I have a layer which is handily over 6 inch deep in most areas of my gardens. If you have deposits like this, by all means do either a passive cold water extraction from the garden soils, or the heat extraction like in the video. Or you can seek out some old compost and use that too. Either one will produce excellent results. Store for up to a year in a durable jug.
I suggest you watch the linked videos below to understand where humic acid really comes from...ancient deposits that underwent specific molecular changes...not from the bottom of some wood chip pile no matter how old.
It is a mined product from New Mexico.
ua-cam.com/video/oKzwgJMy0sQ/v-deo.html&si=ajXbfeWnkjaymhgf
ua-cam.com/video/qxlotcSrSWQ/v-deo.html&si=t1FYEfPHk2fUM4Vu