They call Russ stats fantasy but what has Watson done since being on the browns hasn’t even given them fantasy stats but I guess he’s done more than Russ and a better qb based on his name
@@henrygreene7274 it’s been two years the browns been waiting for a return on their investment. when he has been healthy he’s been ok at best like you said keep waiting not like the browns haven’t been waiting for 30 years or anything
I hope Burrow and Lamar both finish the season healthy, so we can really see whose the best. Since Burrow's came into the league 4 years ago, either lamar can't finish the season or Burrow can't finish the season. Lamar couldn't finish year 2 and year 3, Burrow couldn't finish year 1 and year 4. Let's see what these guys can do when both healthy
Well I mean so far when Burrow is healthy they make it to the AFC title game & when he’s not they miss the playoffs. Not to mention his Super Bowl appearance only thing he’s lacking is MVP awards
Deshaun watson is the worst qb in afc north by far. If we are going by the individual stats. Even fields and browning have better numbers the last few years
Wasn't expecting this show. Bring on the smack. Love all of you, but the Browns are my team. Love from Vancouver B.C Canada. Browns fan since Bernie. 🙂
Watson is clearly the worst starting qb in the north. He hasnt played above average football since 2020. Over the last 2 seasons wilson, burrow, and lamar lead Deshaun in completion percentage, passer rating, qbr, and pff grade. All the qb efficiency stats. On top of that all 3 other starts have won more playoff games. This is a no brainer. Watson has been statistically one of the worst qbs since coming to cleveland 2 years ago.
Bateman is gonna prove a lot of people wrong this year lol as long as he stays healthy. Health has been his issue. When he's been healthy and been fed the ball, he's been solid. And led the league in yards of separation per route run last year. He was just always the 3rd or 4th option
Before you type you should Google my boy. In 2018 and 19 Watson became the first QB in NFL history to log at least 25 touchdowns and over 5 rushing TDs in consecutive seasons. Watson became the first QB in nfl history to reach 10,000 yards passing and 1000 rushing yards in his first 40 games. He logged the highest passer rating in NFL history in his career, at least once, between 2017 and present day. So tell us, was Russell Wilson in the NFL in those years? Yeah, we know he was. So now tell us how Watson never had better stats. He's had alot of them.
1. Lamar Jackson by far. No competition. No comparison. (58-19 career and 3rd all time win percentage) 2. Joe Burrow 3. Deshaun Watson 4. Russell Wilson
@aaronbutler9373 Your going to crash & burn with that take. I'll give Ravens 11 wins, they'll still finish 2nd in the division to the Browns this year.
@@anthonypa8045 Burrow is a mere 29-22 career. Lamar is a whopping 58-19(Hall of Fame pace without MVP and Super Bowl). Burrow is a pitiful 1-4 vs Lamar. What makes you say Burrow over Lamar? Not even close. Burrow is a media concoction. Nothing more. Lamar is #3 all time in win percentage
Sonny also needs to do research if he is gonna try to throw shade on a qbs play, browning didn't win more than russ and russ wasn't benched for his play either and had the Broncos on a 5 game win streak when he was benched
I didn't say, someone said did Browning won more games than... I said I think so. My point with Browning was he had a great season. Also Russ was benched because they didn't want him to be injured and then guaranteed him in the team. They wanted to cut him at the end, and they wanted to cut him wasn't for having a great season. Anyway thanks for the comment
@SZGSports I may have misunderstood what you were saying then, it just sounded like you were throwing shade , I'm new to yalls platform and I still enjoy listening to yall though
@@cjy431 hey man don't sweat it, love to engage in conversation I could see how it sounded differently. Anyway welcome to the pod hope you are liking the content
52:00 Hahahahahahaha. Hilarious. You have the nerve to think JOK is going to stop DH? Really? Just when you think the Brownies are finally living in reality they go right back to their old ways.
11mins in and the show is already an unwatchable joke. You guys do realise Steelers fans want to watch this, and yet you continuously trash them so hard it becomes unwatchable.
After watching last season if you would rather have Watson at almost $60 million a year over Russ at $1 million, you have problems that just can’t be helped man lol
Browns would trade him if any gm would offer anything! What a terrible trade by Andrew berry, 3 years of 1st rd picks and 240 million for a qb not even giving u top 25 production when healthy. Insane
I can't predict the future, but from what's happened so far, if we advance 10 years from now, what will people remember? The 2 time MVP or the guy who beat Mahomes in the playoffs once?
Right and twice in the regular season, and doesn't choke in the big moments, but hey yeah those regular season awards probably mean way more than actually be able to win in the play offs
All the points against Russ and Fields can be true but you would have to be slightly more delusional to put Watson above that situation. Watson's peak wasnt as high as Russ, Watson's lows were lower, Watson's most recent was lower. If you find yourself as negative as you possibly could be on Russ, you wouldnt be lower than you were on Watson.
The browns fan would say pittsburgh has the worst in room, then uses russ getting benched in Denver as the reason when he wasn't benched because of play, he was benched for not taking a pay cut 😂 Dude can't even be subjective, talking as a fan instead of an anylist even admitting he may be biased because he hates pittsburgh In no world does this qb room make pittsburgh worse than the last one
Didn't baker do that same feat 3 times in his career, yes he did. At least browns were winning playoff games with mayfield, deshaun ain't won 1 for cleveland
The Bengals did a decent job, but the loss of DJ Reader makes me nervous he will perform better. As a Bengals fan, I am hoping yall aren't meshing super well in the beginning of the season and we win that first matchup. I also hope we win a Super Bowl. As I am sure the Ravens do.
Each of the last 3 seasons have shown Derrick Henry in significant decline, averaging over a yard per carry less than he did back when he was dominant. I'm not saying he will be bad, but it is really funny to me that Ravens fans seem to think they are getting 2020 King Henry in 2024. The man is a running back, and (other than Frank Gore somehow) they all age like milk.
And I truly mean that with no hate. I'm not trying to say the Ravens will stink. It's just that on average Gus Edwards has been better than Derrick Henry in yards per carry the last several seasons, so bringing in a 30 year old RB with generally lower yards per carry doesn't feel like it's going to make Baltimore any better than it has been. No worse, but also no better
WHEN IT COMES TO WHO DONE MORE WHEN HEALTHY BETWEEN LAMAR AND JOEY... JOEY #1 PERIOD... AND LAMAR DROPPED WEIGHT AGAIN... YALL THINK HE GONNA BE HEALTHY THIS WHOLE SEASON AGAIN? HE GAINED WEIGHT NOT TO GET HURT BUT LOST SPEED..
They call Russ stats fantasy but what has Watson done since being on the browns hasn’t even given them fantasy stats but I guess he’s done more than Russ and a better qb based on his name
Let Watson get healthy before you start talking.
@@henrygreene7274 it’s been two years the browns been waiting for a return on their investment. when he has been healthy he’s been ok at best like you said keep waiting not like the browns haven’t been waiting for 30 years or anything
@@henrygreene7274 been waiting two years and when he been out there it ain’t been pretty but hey season right around the corner
Yea watson has been awful since going to cleveland the numbers don't lie, he's been a bottom 8 qb since end of 2020.
I hope Burrow and Lamar both finish the season healthy, so we can really see whose the best. Since Burrow's came into the league 4 years ago, either lamar can't finish the season or Burrow can't finish the season. Lamar couldn't finish year 2 and year 3, Burrow couldn't finish year 1 and year 4. Let's see what these guys can do when both healthy
Well that’s more over their careers, not a single season
Well I mean so far when Burrow is healthy they make it to the AFC title game & when he’s not they miss the playoffs. Not to mention his Super Bowl appearance only thing he’s lacking is MVP awards
@nate84 I hope so as well
We already know which one is the best. Joe doesn't choke in big moments, and honestly if you take away his running Lamar is a back up caliber QB
@@bryan3487 oh man I forgot Burrows Super Bowl. I'll make sure I'll bring it up next time
Steelers easily have the worst QB room, Steelers fans cope more
Deshaun Watson lol
Deshaun Watson
@@jarrettjones5827 Wilson and fields LOL
Deshaun watson is the worst qb in afc north by far. If we are going by the individual stats. Even fields and browning have better numbers the last few years
Wasn't expecting this show. Bring on the smack. Love all of you, but the Browns are my team. Love from Vancouver B.C Canada. Browns fan since Bernie. 🙂
I think DH will be pretty successful in Baltimore just because LJ is their QB. He allows RB to be more successful than they should be.
No he don't 😂.
Yes he does😂 @@BrowniethaDawg
every time yall post i rap to that beat the first 40 seconds that's a playa beat lol... whodey ace
Watson is clearly the worst starting qb in the north. He hasnt played above average football since 2020. Over the last 2 seasons wilson, burrow, and lamar lead Deshaun in completion percentage, passer rating, qbr, and pff grade. All the qb efficiency stats. On top of that all 3 other starts have won more playoff games. This is a no brainer. Watson has been statistically one of the worst qbs since coming to cleveland 2 years ago.
Kenny was Colberts pick. Omar khan will draft a stud qb
Bateman is gonna prove a lot of people wrong this year lol as long as he stays healthy. Health has been his issue. When he's been healthy and been fed the ball, he's been solid. And led the league in yards of separation per route run last year. He was just always the 3rd or 4th option
Yep. These fools will see. Bate is a lot better than these outsiders give him credit for
Didnt ace say burrow is mahomes daddy because he was 4-1 against him? Well here we are lj8 is 4-1 vs burrow yet he picked burrow🤦
Russell Wilsons "down year" beats any Watson season. Watson has never had any season that has better numbers then Wilson.
Before you type you should Google my boy.
In 2018 and 19 Watson became the first QB in NFL history to log at least 25 touchdowns and over 5 rushing TDs in consecutive seasons. Watson became the first QB in nfl history to reach 10,000 yards passing and 1000 rushing yards in his first 40 games. He logged the highest passer rating in NFL history in his career, at least once, between 2017 and present day. So tell us, was Russell Wilson in the NFL in those years? Yeah, we know he was. So now tell us how Watson never had better stats. He's had alot of them.
Bad take
1. Lamar Jackson by far. No competition. No comparison. (58-19 career and 3rd all time win percentage)
2. Joe Burrow
3. Deshaun Watson
4. Russell Wilson
Nice stats but we're talking about this season
@@henrygreene7274 this season Ravens floor is 13 wins. FLOOR.
@aaronbutler9373 Your going to crash & burn with that take. I'll give Ravens 11 wins, they'll still finish 2nd in the division to the Browns this year.
Burrow, lamar, russ, watson
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Burrow is a mere 29-22 career. Lamar is a whopping 58-19(Hall of Fame pace without MVP and Super Bowl). Burrow is a pitiful 1-4 vs Lamar. What makes you say Burrow over Lamar? Not even close. Burrow is a media concoction. Nothing more. Lamar is #3 all time in win percentage
Sonny also needs to do research if he is gonna try to throw shade on a qbs play, browning didn't win more than russ and russ wasn't benched for his play either and had the Broncos on a 5 game win streak when he was benched
I didn't say, someone said did Browning won more games than... I said I think so. My point with Browning was he had a great season. Also Russ was benched because they didn't want him to be injured and then guaranteed him in the team. They wanted to cut him at the end, and they wanted to cut him wasn't for having a great season. Anyway thanks for the comment
@SZGSports I may have misunderstood what you were saying then, it just sounded like you were throwing shade , I'm new to yalls platform and I still enjoy listening to yall though
@@cjy431 hey man don't sweat it, love to engage in conversation I could see how it sounded differently. Anyway welcome to the pod hope you are liking the content
52:00 Hahahahahahaha. Hilarious. You have the nerve to think JOK is going to stop DH? Really?
Just when you think the Brownies are finally living in reality they go right back to their old ways.
11mins in and the show is already an unwatchable joke. You guys do realise Steelers fans want to watch this, and yet you continuously trash them so hard it becomes unwatchable.
Do you think the Steelers have the best QB room, I think for this position the Steelers are not great, we all will have positions like this
After watching last season if you would rather have Watson at almost $60 million a year over Russ at $1 million, you have problems that just can’t be helped man lol
Wait till the season starts. I'm not going to bash Russ, but I know a healthy Watson will be better.
Yea browns gotta pay watson 64 million this year. And the last 2 years he ranks 53rd in pff grade and 38th In qbr. Paying top dollar for a bottom qb
Ace will put Burrow on #1 right?
Quincy is such a typical salty browns fan
Watson had a better year and career then Deshaun Watson 😂
Just call the show, 'Quincy's Cope'.
The browns Never won the north but talkin superbowl 😂
Quincy is such a fanboy of watson he can't have a honest discussion about him. Every single stay says he's a bottom 5 qb, then he's been bad.
Browns would trade Watson today for Russ or fields if the contract went with it 😂
Browns would trade him if any gm would offer anything! What a terrible trade by Andrew berry, 3 years of 1st rd picks and 240 million for a qb not even giving u top 25 production when healthy. Insane
I can't predict the future, but from what's happened so far, if we advance 10 years from now, what will people remember? The 2 time MVP or the guy who beat Mahomes in the playoffs once?
Right and twice in the regular season, and doesn't choke in the big moments, but hey yeah those regular season awards probably mean way more than actually be able to win in the play offs
@@bryan3487nobody cares bout winning in the playoffs if u ain’t got a ring to show for it that’s a fan thing😂
@@bryan3487except lamar is alrdy in canton😂🤣😂 what has burrow won?
Probably will remember the guy who played in 2 afc championships and 1 superbowl. Who also had great stats.
All the points against Russ and Fields can be true but you would have to be slightly more delusional to put Watson above that situation. Watson's peak wasnt as high as Russ, Watson's lows were lower, Watson's most recent was lower. If you find yourself as negative as you possibly could be on Russ, you wouldnt be lower than you were on Watson.
2020 Watson was better than any year of Russ who was carried by super teams. Also Watson is 29 and Russ is in his mid 30s
Nobody paid Watson 80+mill to not be their QB it's pretty obvious the steelers QB room is #4.
48:20 Q is missing the point. The Ravens lost almost their entire running back room!!!!!!! If DH gives just half the production of Gus it's a bonus.
The browns fan would say pittsburgh has the worst in room, then uses russ getting benched in Denver as the reason when he wasn't benched because of play, he was benched for not taking a pay cut 😂
Dude can't even be subjective, talking as a fan instead of an anylist even admitting he may be biased because he hates pittsburgh
In no world does this qb room make pittsburgh worse than the last one
Steelers have the worse QB room. Cry more
@aarond7158 no one cried so learn what crying is
Why’d they ask him to take a pay cut?… Answer: Because of his play
I agree, but Pittsburgh won't have a better record than the browns this year again.
Soon as Burrow got hurt. I dropped a link to Right Wriss by Premo Rice in my Sleeper chat. I think I'm a top-tier troll. They won't admit it tho.
THE STEELERS HATE SENSEI IS BACK!!! i luv Q talking about football 😂😂
I do HATE the Browns...but quincy got 🔥 🔥 🤣 whodeyyyy
Low risk tho 😂😂😂
Shout out to ace for being objective and knowledgeable in his reasoning and for not speaking off emotions or bias
subjective means opinion. Did you mean objective, which is the attempt to take opinion out?
@diamondrg3556 yeah my bad, I got them mixed up
Watson beat Lamar and burrow in the same year , only guy outside of pat that can say that . He’ll be in the conversation by the end of year
AhhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahHahhahahahahahahhah😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bonkers comment
Isn't lamar 4-1against Watson? I hope you enjoyed the win tho😂🤣😂
Didn't baker do that same feat 3 times in his career, yes he did. At least browns were winning playoff games with mayfield, deshaun ain't won 1 for cleveland
@@anthonypa8045 when did baker beat Lamar
@@Williamnoelbrowns baker beat ravens 3 times, twice lamar was the starter, once flacco started but lamar did play.
Derrick Henry’s 16 game rushing stats vs the AFC North: 227 carries, 916 yards, 9 touchdowns, 4.25yd avg.
The Bengals did a decent job, but the loss of DJ Reader makes me nervous he will perform better. As a Bengals fan, I am hoping yall aren't meshing super well in the beginning of the season and we win that first matchup.
I also hope we win a Super Bowl. As I am sure the Ravens do.
Each of the last 3 seasons have shown Derrick Henry in significant decline, averaging over a yard per carry less than he did back when he was dominant. I'm not saying he will be bad, but it is really funny to me that Ravens fans seem to think they are getting 2020 King Henry in 2024. The man is a running back, and (other than Frank Gore somehow) they all age like milk.
And I truly mean that with no hate. I'm not trying to say the Ravens will stink. It's just that on average Gus Edwards has been better than Derrick Henry in yards per carry the last several seasons, so bringing in a 30 year old RB with generally lower yards per carry doesn't feel like it's going to make Baltimore any better than it has been. No worse, but also no better
WHEN IT COMES TO WHO DONE MORE WHEN HEALTHY BETWEEN LAMAR AND JOEY... JOEY #1 PERIOD... AND LAMAR DROPPED WEIGHT AGAIN... YALL THINK HE GONNA BE HEALTHY THIS WHOLE SEASON AGAIN? HE GAINED WEIGHT NOT TO GET HURT BUT LOST SPEED..
Burrow has missed more games then lj8🤡🌍 alot easier to stay healthy when they aren't using him to tun between the tackles...you're clueless lmap
@@jakeharshman2565 🥱 🥱🥱
Joe Burrow is going to dominate this division, and the league. New better OLine,new younger weapons and the experience that he has.
Joe Burrow is not going to dominate the AFCN. Ravens will sweep the Bengals. Joe Burrow never dominates the AFCN. But he is a playoff threat.
As a bengal fine I respect your take
Q bro I love you man, but you always throwing those jabs. Just seems a little unfair😂 go Browns!!
lots of Q hate but hes 100% speaking facts