Mass Effect’s Illusive Organisation - Cerberus | FULL Mass Effect Lore & Origin Story

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  • Hidden away from everyone working as a rogue special ops faction is the organisation known as Cerberus. An organisation who will do anything to better humanity no matter the cost to any other race in the system. Run by one man known only as The Illusive Man, Cerberus would build their forces and transform into one of the largest military operations within the galaxy during the events of The Reaper War.
    Using any and all races for their illegal experiments Cerberus would become known as a terrifying and unethical organisation that would undermine everything the Citadel councils were trying to build. But what started Cerberus, what did they really want and what experiments did they undergo to build this organisation.
    This is the lore behind Cerberus & their leader, The Illusive Man.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:55 - The Illusive Man's Origins
    9:29 - The Rapid Growth Of Cerberus & The Lazarus Project
    18:42 - Their Transformation & Downfall
    23:29 - Thanks For Watching
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  • @WiseFish
    @WiseFish  3 роки тому +79

    Hope you guys enjoyed this video! If you can definitely check out Mass Effect Evolution it’s a great insight into The Illusive Mans past and written by the guy who wrote ME2! Well worth it. Anyways thanks for watching!!

    • @theavpman4834
      @theavpman4834 3 роки тому

      Sounds cool I'll give it a look.

    • @magicpyroninja
      @magicpyroninja Рік тому

      Cerberus as a name is burned they can't use it everybody hates them as an organization now.
      And I think through this everyone will have found a New respect for humanity

  • @underwearpowerwear
    @underwearpowerwear 3 роки тому +352

    Liara being the Shadow Broker is possibly the worst kept secret in the galaxy

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +71

      Yeah not exactly a shadow broker now tbh...more of a person that holds all the information which seems like a massive security problem.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 3 роки тому +19

      Yeah she's not very good at it huh

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 2 роки тому +56

      To be fair, the galaxy is incredibly stupid to fall for it anyway.
      “Maybe I should go see LIARA, my friend/lover who is the HEAD of the LARGEST INFORMATION NETWORK in the GALAXY, running it from the SHADOWS”
      “Okay. While you’re at it, try to get in contact with the Shadow Broker, he’ll know what to do”

    • @johnnyboogalo4897
      @johnnyboogalo4897 2 роки тому +35

      didn't even know where illusive man base was even tho former shadow broker knew how many smokes the illusive man smoked a day and how many buttons he had on his shirt ffs lmao

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnnyboogalo4897 Didn’t he purge most of the shadow brokers agents after he became indoctrinated?

  • @WowSuchGaming
    @WowSuchGaming 3 роки тому +278

    Wow, i never knew The Illusive Man had such a history, especially crossing paths with Saren. Its too bad the Turian general had such an influence on him with race superiority.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +43

      I should have stated that Desolas is Sarens brother. But yeah I had no idea before I worked on this. Such a great backstory!

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 3 роки тому +3

      I would suggest Thomas Sowell’s Race and culture book- free audiobook on UA-cam.
      Technically the book ‘visions of the anointed’, and his ‘basic economics’ and ‘economic fallacies’ audiobook also on UA-cam work too
      I would also suggest Hazlit’s ‘basic economics in 1 lesson’
      These give a idea as to how these effected their cultures in a sense.
      Basically being the most politically benefited races they receive the best support in most aspects over others.
      See the Turian’s dreadnought policy; for everyone 5 of the Turian’s other species can only have 1 of their own.
      The Asari have however a more natural superiority; the benefit of long term pleasures at the cost of short term ones is a benefit of their society partly due to their long life spans.
      The Salarians- frog people have short term pleasures and act the most to do as much as they can due to their competing culture; due to their short life span and generation length they often go to extremes to end wars- see the Krogan being uplifted to fight the Rachni and then the genophage.
      And then add in the life span and generation range there of (earliest start of family= new generation (2) + earliest start of new family member starting their own family = new generation(3) )
      The longest war in humanity is the Hindu Holocaust in which the Muslims invaded India from 960 some to early 1700’s.
      It’s called a foreign name and is hard to find any actual naming of what it’s referred to as it lasted so long it’s like our war with North Korea- so little action happens between some high violent years before kicking up again.

    • @akramgimmini8165
      @akramgimmini8165 3 роки тому +1

      Oh Hello There

    • @serlusacan3880
      @serlusacan3880 Рік тому +2

      @@WiseFish I figured they were related same surname and all

    • @BlueFusion2910
      @BlueFusion2910 5 місяців тому

      Too good*

  • @cryptosporidium1375
    @cryptosporidium1375 3 роки тому +96

    Ironic, Saren was the first marauder fought.

  • @trevinwolverine1904
    @trevinwolverine1904 3 роки тому +73

    Hearing " Planet LV-426" brought back memories about Alien. I know what I'm doing afterwards

    • @maxpayne930
      @maxpayne930 3 роки тому +5

      Wow u noticed that to?
      Nice : )

    • @raval87
      @raval87 2 роки тому +1

      @@maxpayne930 yeah me too. Acheron he say?

  • @Hammer_Of_Olympia
    @Hammer_Of_Olympia 3 роки тому +115

    I’m so glad you did Cerberus, they’re a very interesting faction. Whilst they do a lot of shady and unethical stuff which results in me not being a massive fan, their rationale and the fact they were one of the only groups to try and prepare for the Reaper invasion is admirable.
    Also had no idea The Illusive Man had such a background. With that being said, great video yet again (as though there’s any doubt)!

    • @jfk8540
      @jfk8540 2 роки тому +8

      prepare for the reaper invasion=sabotaging the galaxy’s legitimate attempts to stop the reaper invasion at every possible turn because you think you know better and commit crimes against humanity in dozens of unethical human experimentation projects while claiming to be fighting for it

    • @nicholasmays4257
      @nicholasmays4257 Рік тому

      @@jfk8540 they're pretty much the definition of lawful evil, doing whatever they deem necessary to accomplish their goals regardless of what's required to do it. very much a "can't make an omelet without breaking eggs" sort of mentality.

  • @shirox11
    @shirox11 Рік тому +36

    The illusive man is an awesome character. It’s just to bad that it takes the extended universe to really know who he is and why he is the way he is.

    • @PsychomachineryEBM
      @PsychomachineryEBM Рік тому +5

      Fact, to me the best character in the series (and counting so many great characters there, that says a lot)

  • @Plasma-vs1eq
    @Plasma-vs1eq 2 роки тому +22

    After helping Liara with the shadow broker mission and exploring the ship and finding a terminal about your squadmates and you read about Miranda, you discover that the previous shadow broker has planned to destroy cerberus and recruit Miranda as an agent for the shadow broker

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 3 місяці тому

      It’s also where I learned she was barren and couldn’t online date to save her life.

  • @punishedvenomsnake716
    @punishedvenomsnake716 3 роки тому +46

    Wow, this is perfect timing. I just finished ME 1/2/3 for the first time last Friday. Man, no other series of games has come even close to making me laugh, smile, and cry so much. I was bawling my eyes out from a cocktail of overwhelming emotions out near the end. I wish you could save Anderson from this bastard. At least, we were able to have one last conversation before he passed.
    Cheers, bro for this video! I love your channel and the content you put out.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +7

      Thanks for enjoying the channel man it means the world! Mass Effect is an incredible franchise!

    • @punishedvenomsnake716
      @punishedvenomsnake716 3 роки тому +1

      @@WiseFish
      Of course and thank you for making this wonderful content, man!
      And yeah, ME is so awesome on every level! I'm so excited for the next game :)

  • @cls357
    @cls357 2 роки тому +90

    Then Andromeda dropped and hit us all with the revelation that Jack, The Illusive Man's vision went beyond every galaxy and solar system we came to know in the original trilogy. Cerberus discovered space with no Reapers! Space that the Reapers hadn't even come close to; in any previous cycle. That's heavy; the Illusive Man was always a few steps ahead; in the name of humanity.

    • @pepsiman7711
      @pepsiman7711 Рік тому +11

      Never read that fanfiction is it any good? Heard it sucks major butt.

    • @labradude
      @labradude Рік тому +13

      This is fanfiction, for anyone reading this in the future. It's not real.

    • @manofmercy1500
      @manofmercy1500 Рік тому +7

      @@labradude Actually, it's implied that Cerberus had a few agents who infiltrated the Andromeda Initiative, mainly so they could once more assert human dominance upon a new galaxy, resorting to beginning their usual immoral experiments [though due to the much more hostile surroundings, the Kett and/or the efforts of Pathfinder Ryder (Scott or Sara) these efforts would gain very little ground].
      Not to mention the popular fan theory that the Initiative's mysterious "Benefactor" who saved the program from early financial ruin was actually a pre-indoctrinated Illusive Man, though that one's never been confirmed.

    • @labradude
      @labradude Рік тому +3

      @@manofmercy1500 fanfiction not theory

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage Рік тому

      It is fun to think about if Reapers exist in other galaxies. If the Andromeda initiative made it in a few hundred years, Reapers should have no problem getting to others.

  • @recht_voor_zijn_raap5506
    @recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 3 роки тому +22

    Awesome video as always.
    You did forget one thing though.
    TIM was already indoctrinated by the Reapers at the time of at least the end of ME2 (but highly likely the moment he interacted with the Reaper artifact while stil being Jack Harper.. explaining his mechanical blue eyes)
    This was confirmed by both the Prothean VI and the Catalyst itself The Catalyst outright says TIM "was already under their control" ...
    And the Prothean VI telling about indoctrinated organisations like Cerberus helping on the downfall of The Protheans in their cycle.
    So although it seems his intentions were about saving humanity at all costs..
    Without him knowing the Catalyst (and creator of the Reapers) was using him as an indoctrinated agent to destroy oppositions like the Alliance and Councel War races.
    Making the Galactic genocide much easier.
    As it has done in every cycle.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +6

      Damn I did didn’t I? That’s annoying, but thanks for this. It’ll clear it up for anyone interested. But annoyed I forgot about that honestly

    • @recht_voor_zijn_raap5506
      @recht_voor_zijn_raap5506 3 роки тому +1

      @@WiseFish No problem m8..
      Your video was really well made and with all that information its understandable some details slipped through the cracks.
      Keep up the amazing work

  • @El_Presidente_5337
    @El_Presidente_5337 2 роки тому +15

    *Discoveres this channel*
    "Mass Effect lore videos are back on the menu baby!"

    • @LPeck1985
      @LPeck1985 2 роки тому

      "Looks like meats back on the menu boys!"
      Sorry, you reminded me of LoTR: The Two Towers.

  • @maksymilianziele28
    @maksymilianziele28 Рік тому +4

    "If the Illusive Man is good at one thing, it's finding new way to subverb science. It's never worked for him before, and it won't now."
    - Hackett, Mass Effect 3

    • @captainhybrid4045
      @captainhybrid4045 6 місяців тому +1

      Amused me that, with the good Admiral talking to someone brought back from the dead by Cerberus.
      Sure, in the end it didn't work out for The Illusive Man, but to say it never worked wasn't quite true either. The Collectors were beaten and humanity, depending on the chosen ending in ME3, saved.

    • @maksymilianziele28
      @maksymilianziele28 6 місяців тому +1

      @@captainhybrid4045 In Mass Effect 3 everyone portrayed him as an delusional villain with big ego. Out of all main characters, only Miranda and Shepard him/herself may believed in his true priorities (saving humanity). But like Shepard said about Saren in Mass Effect, whatever he thought and believed does not matter anymore, TIM became a threat that must be put down before he could do more damage.

    • @captainhybrid4045
      @captainhybrid4045 6 місяців тому +1

      @@maksymilianziele28 I was referring to subverting science never working for him. Though in Anderson's words regarding your Saren reference, true enough.

  • @KevinKoolx
    @KevinKoolx 2 роки тому +9

    I'll always watch anything Mass Effect related! Great video as always!

  • @GrimsdaleGaming
    @GrimsdaleGaming 2 роки тому +17

    The Illusive Man is a good friend of mine. Thank you for covering Jack’s life and legacy so well!

  • @bucky699
    @bucky699 2 роки тому +56

    I doubt Cerberus is dead just cause TIM dies. It had many roots and cells he may have been the shot caller but as Miranda said there are many high powered and influential members who entrusted TIM with the day to day running. Doubtfull all of them are gone.

    • @bubbajubbaR
      @bubbajubbaR 2 роки тому +2

      @Crimson Fox paragon lost takes place before ME3

    • @bubbajubbaR
      @bubbajubbaR 2 роки тому +2

      @Crimson Fox no worries. I wish they'd make more mass effect movies/TV shows. I think it could really catch on

  • @Dizzy62695
    @Dizzy62695 3 роки тому +8

    Can't believe I only just found you on UA-cam. Some of the best lore videos around

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +2

      Wow dude thanks so much that means the world!!

    • @theavpman4834
      @theavpman4834 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah UA-cam has something against this guy for some reason. His vids hardly ever get recommended like they should.

  • @reasonablybased7
    @reasonablybased7 3 роки тому +11

    As an aspiring small creator myself, your videos are inspirational! Spectacular content as always Mr WiseFish.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much man! Keep up the hard work on your end as well :)

  • @lordshaxx7727
    @lordshaxx7727 2 роки тому +5

    Such quality 🤩 good job dude I’m very happy I found your channel.

  • @tigraniskandaryan8641
    @tigraniskandaryan8641 2 роки тому +27

    "But for now, with the death of Illusive Man, otherwise known as Jack Harper, Cerberus will be gone for good"
    Except they financed Andromeda Initiative and send their men to a galaxy far far away where, upon arrival, they continue Cerberus' job...

    • @InvadeleYogurt
      @InvadeleYogurt Рік тому

      The idea continues on

    • @generalkenobi9602
      @generalkenobi9602 6 місяців тому +2

      @@InvadeleYogurt The Illusive man did say that Cerberus was no simple organisation but an idea and no matter what we do....we can't destroy it.

  • @precious2060
    @precious2060 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for another ME lore video. Ever since watching your video on First Contact War, I was looking forward to your next one. Again this was presented really well. Too bad Cerberus' goals got twisted as time went on, they would've been a great asset during the war.

  • @scruffypugs1963
    @scruffypugs1963 2 роки тому +5

    thanks for the amazing video i really appreciate it, keep up the good work also I'd love to see some dead space
    videos potentially if you don't have some already or maybe if you do then ones with topics or subjects you haven't possibly looked into, I'm really enjoying this channel thus far.

  • @silmarienprince3137
    @silmarienprince3137 2 роки тому +6

    I really enjoyed that. Huge Kudos

  • @MetroPlexGamer
    @MetroPlexGamer 2 роки тому +4

    Cerberus is Mass Effect's answer to Star Trek Mirror Universe's Terran Empire at least humans aren't likely to stab each other in the back ( literally) just to gain a promotion in the next chain of command.

  • @duffinthemuffin5792
    @duffinthemuffin5792 2 роки тому +6

    Just getting into the full trilogy as I only played mass effect 2 without any dlc almost 6 years ago now, glad to see the rest of the fanbase has revived.

  • @MasterRaven0707
    @MasterRaven0707 2 роки тому +13

    Having read all the books, comics and passed all 3 parts of the Mass Effect, my attitude to The Illusive Man and Cerberus can be described: "Neutral, mixed with disgust". I understand the goals and motives of this organization, to elevate and protect humanity, but the way they try to achieve it I hate, especially after what The Illusive Man has done to Paul Grayson, their experiments on children and not only and the study of Reaper technology where they subsequently indoctrination The Illusive Man. I understand why they did it, but I do not accept it. I have no hatred for Cerberus or The Illusive Man, I just have a neutral-disgust for him and his organization.

  • @akramgimmini8165
    @akramgimmini8165 3 роки тому +3

    Great Video as Always
    I'm not a great Mass Effect Fan but
    I'm hyped for the next Video

  • @jasonx1174
    @jasonx1174 2 роки тому +7

    Now I know why he called the A.I. that tried to replaced E.D.I. Eva. That's actually sad.

    • @Audiotrocious
      @Audiotrocious 2 роки тому +4

      Heart wrenching. TIM suffered and it broke him, leaving something jagged not caring what was cut to achieve his goals.

    • @lavellelee5734
      @lavellelee5734 Рік тому

      Damn 😢

  • @ActionQuackson
    @ActionQuackson Рік тому

    Thanks for the video!

  • @kevingeenath4569
    @kevingeenath4569 2 роки тому +1

    AWESOME video...
    Love it.
    👍👍❤️❤️❤️

  • @TheCorrodedMan
    @TheCorrodedMan 2 роки тому +4

    “I tried, Shepard…”

  • @dandyrandy2384
    @dandyrandy2384 Рік тому

    Great info! I really need to dive into more of the mass effect comics. I enjoyed the books ive read quite a bit. Subbed!

  • @matthewmartinez3907
    @matthewmartinez3907 Рік тому +3

    Wonder if that object was a reaper in origin, if so with Jack being exposed to it like that he could’ve been indoctrinated long before we meet him, like some characters it can be dormant and manifest later at some point.

  • @TerryMcQ79
    @TerryMcQ79 2 роки тому +2

    Don't let that jabroni in the comments get you down about Ash's father I mean grandfather. You pinned a comment owning the mistake and that's all you need. This vid earned you a new subscriber. Keep it up 👍

  • @nathanlevesque7812
    @nathanlevesque7812 3 роки тому +7

    How was TIM ever going to use the crucible after preventing the Alliance from getting the schematics? Cerberus never had the resources to build it themselves.

    • @giathuanleviet4138
      @giathuanleviet4138 2 роки тому +3

      The neat part is, he won't, the starchild said that he already fell for the indoctrination, he only talk about it because the Reaper wanted him to, they want to make TIM think that he's still in control and that's about it

  • @LazyLifeIFreak
    @LazyLifeIFreak 3 роки тому +11

    Arch? Would that be Arch "Warhammer" the Returned?

  • @tamiloxd7168
    @tamiloxd7168 2 місяці тому

    I love the Ilusive Man, he manages to give a player false image of Cerberus. You as a player never get to see the true face of Cerberus, except of the ocasions when you are presented with their crimes.

  • @WallNutBreaker524
    @WallNutBreaker524 Рік тому +4

    I love Cerberus.

  • @UpUpBobby
    @UpUpBobby Рік тому

    Man that ME1 Soundtrack just hits like no other. I love it so much ♥

  • @JamesDOConnor1916
    @JamesDOConnor1916 2 роки тому

    Thanks sir 🙏

  • @nathanielray3860
    @nathanielray3860 День тому

    So just a theory, but what if Shepherd near Harper? Shepherd could call him out changing the pace of the game, could be a cool twist.

  • @fuckoff4843
    @fuckoff4843 2 роки тому

    This video was good

  • @thahn3419
    @thahn3419 2 роки тому +2

    Damn man im hooked on fictional history. So good.

  • @MIKEREW
    @MIKEREW 3 роки тому +1

    Just got my popcorns ready!

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah boy!! Enjoy :)

    • @MIKEREW
      @MIKEREW 3 роки тому +1

      @@WiseFish Man I'm allready enjoying! Thank you Legend!

  • @PsychomachineryEBM
    @PsychomachineryEBM Рік тому +2

    The best character in the series. He was a real badass.

  • @christianburnett236
    @christianburnett236 5 місяців тому

    Would be awesome to get more lore or 3rd party material of the collectors/Cerberus splinter groups

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 7 місяців тому

    Such amazing music 🎶

  • @gasmaskguys4965
    @gasmaskguys4965 3 роки тому +1

    Yesss!

  • @Audiotrocious
    @Audiotrocious 2 роки тому +1

    Since they are splintered cells, I think they are still around, just no longer have a leader figure uniting cells. Power vacuum could lead to infighting.

  • @breakfastatepiphanies
    @breakfastatepiphanies Рік тому

    Taking casual tea!

  • @DangerIncFilms
    @DangerIncFilms 2 роки тому

    I legit thought you saying LV-426 was just to make sure people are paying attention but wow. It’s true.

  • @tylerhaunted
    @tylerhaunted 3 місяці тому

    I wish the main line ME trilogy did more with Cerberus, like deep cover missions against them especially in ME3, not just a couple attacks.

  • @harlancollins1060
    @harlancollins1060 Рік тому

    Gives me an entirely different view of illusive man...thank you...I need to think about all of this.

  • @R2A97LB
    @R2A97LB 11 місяців тому

    Shepard and The Illusive man are my fav characters of the series...i still remember how in the end of me3 the elusive man tried so hard to save humanity but was rejected....💔

  • @justagreekguywithaspacesui9084

    Everyone is the hero of their own story

  • @RUdigitized
    @RUdigitized Рік тому +1

    The True Heroes of Mass Effect

  • @johnk.7523
    @johnk.7523 Рік тому

    13:02 Damn it Liara!

  • @shinyduck5324
    @shinyduck5324 2 роки тому +1

    niiiiiceee

  • @romygutierrez7873
    @romygutierrez7873 2 роки тому +1

    MOAR

  •  2 роки тому

    can you do a lore video of chargeman kens alien faction :)

  • @seanlamar29
    @seanlamar29 3 роки тому +4

    His momma named him jack imma call him jack

  • @SexyDragoness
    @SexyDragoness Рік тому +1

    Wait, the desert planet called LV426? Did they find Xenomorphs there?

  • @gameone7717
    @gameone7717 Рік тому

    Illusive man 😎

  • @xwing2417
    @xwing2417 2 роки тому

    welp. guess I gotta set up another play-thru.

  • @BlueFusion2910
    @BlueFusion2910 5 місяців тому +1

    Would Cerberus even exist if the first contact war didn't happen?

  • @ShredGod7404
    @ShredGod7404 2 роки тому +2

    Do u think Jack harper is related to Cora Harper from andromeda?

  • @mohamedfaroukelewa5905
    @mohamedfaroukelewa5905 2 роки тому

    geeeee maaaaan

  • @UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort
    @UrDadsFavouriteMaleEscort 2 роки тому +1

    What do you think would happen if a Krogan brushed up against some gympie-gympie?

    • @weebwhacker6217
      @weebwhacker6217 Рік тому

      They would probably make a game out of it. They made chess with flamethrowers, they are likely are able to make a pain plant into yahtzer or something

  • @ChrisBabaganoosh
    @ChrisBabaganoosh 3 роки тому +20

    ME2 and previous - an extremist organization that did immoral things but genuinely worked for the betterment of humanity.
    ME3 - Scooby Doo villain.

    • @Zack-gk1bt
      @Zack-gk1bt 2 роки тому

      They felt more like an actually effective Team Rocket in Me3 imo

  • @gid-and-friends
    @gid-and-friends Рік тому

    Plot twist: Charlie Sheen plays a character called Charlie Harper on Two and a Half Men. The Illusive Man’s name is Jack Harper who is voiced by Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen’s father. And we know future family members often times seem reincarnated. Two and Half Men is canon to Mass Effect now. Don’t @ me.

  • @captainnikoorphan5345
    @captainnikoorphan5345 Рік тому +1

    Admiral* Anderson

  • @dukethighwalker6839
    @dukethighwalker6839 2 роки тому

    Cool videos dude but Charon = K sound like in Chaos.

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah that’s the Greek pronunciation and the one it’s mean to be however I was just going by how NASA themselves call it as well as other astronomers. Why they say Sharon instead of the Greek Kharon I don’t know, I guess the words been westernised? Anyways glad you liked the video

  • @visionhawk4403
    @visionhawk4403 4 місяці тому

    No mention of him creating an AI and naming it after his old friend, Dr. Eva Core?

  • @johankrausse9026
    @johankrausse9026 3 роки тому

    Where did you get this info?

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +1

      In game, Mass Effect comics/books and the lore wiki

  • @sargepent9815
    @sargepent9815 Рік тому

    The artifact was Reaper tech and it was at this moment that both TIM and Saren were indoctrinated

  • @AdmiralBison
    @AdmiralBison 5 місяців тому

    Have to wonder is Mass Effect's "Illusive Man" inspired by the X-Files "Cigarette smoking man"?

  • @theformalpsycho3143
    @theformalpsycho3143 3 роки тому +2

    Wait.. there was a hidden evil Corp?

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +1

      Errr nope nothing to see here

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 7 місяців тому

    Poor tombs

  • @skepticalmagos_101
    @skepticalmagos_101 Рік тому

    TIM would have been a decent Inquisitor

  • @KOBRAMASTER
    @KOBRAMASTER 6 днів тому

    Team Ilusive man

  • @obscureraven6627
    @obscureraven6627 Рік тому +3

    I find it rather sad that you can tell the second the writing went to shit in ME3, the illusive man going full villain at the end, trying suddenly to stop shepard from destroying the reapers even though it was his plan for a game and a half

    • @edot7266
      @edot7266 Рік тому

      He was indoctrinated. He was made to believe he could control them. And that the reapers were necessary. It's not bad writing. You can tell right from the start of the game he's not mentally right.

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Рік тому +2

      He was indoctrinated

    • @Clarity_Control
      @Clarity_Control Рік тому +1

      @@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      That’s how they can justify the terrible writing.

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Рік тому

      @@Clarity_Control more like re-writing the bad ending in your head canon

  • @matthewcooke117
    @matthewcooke117 Рік тому

    Why did they write in poisoned Rosary beads into lore

  • @andrewlamb3585
    @andrewlamb3585 9 місяців тому

    It makes zero sense that this is the Illusive Man's back story... and then ME3...

  • @jacoballen148
    @jacoballen148 Рік тому

    Good question how is the illusive man is alive if he smokes and looks like in his 80s

  • @geoxev9423
    @geoxev9423 2 роки тому

    Quick question, who is canon, Female or male Shepherd? Or is up to our imagination?

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  2 роки тому +2

      I think Shepard is down to the player I don’t think they’re in the comics or books but could be wrong. That said the original creator said Shepard was always meant to be Female so I guess FemShep is the canon?

    • @geoxev9423
      @geoxev9423 2 роки тому

      @@WiseFish Yeah I figure it would be something like that.

    • @captainhybrid4045
      @captainhybrid4045 6 місяців тому

      Play through the three games and focus on everything. There are moments in 2 and 3 which imply a canon in 1.
      There's a moment I have to replay through to remember the point in the series where I got the impression canon was male.
      An example of the point I'm making about quiet canon is when Joker asks if you'd like him to call the council to hang up on them for old time's sake. Even without ever disconnecting on them in ME1.
      So I figure there's a point at least in 1 where Shep is Renegade. Either with each report or by the last one, which I wouldn't blame Shep for.

  • @humanbeing4841
    @humanbeing4841 Рік тому +2

    To be honest if the Mass Effect universe was real, I would probably want to join Cerberus. It wasn't until Illusive Man became corrupted by the Reapers that Cerberus became a problem.

    • @TheCorrodedMan
      @TheCorrodedMan 3 місяці тому

      Allow me to enlighten you as to why you’re wrong with one word. A name, actually: Jack(Subject Zero)

  • @Jason-oq9om
    @Jason-oq9om Рік тому

    The first rule of Cerberus is Cerberus does not give a shit what you think about Cerberus.

  • @djking881
    @djking881 3 роки тому +2

    #HumanityFirst

  • @superheracross89
    @superheracross89 Рік тому +1

    Anderson wasn't a general

  • @WarriorNoldor
    @WarriorNoldor 3 роки тому +2

    I am Cerberus.

  • @destroyerarmor2846
    @destroyerarmor2846 10 місяців тому

    There is no salvation from the Reapers lol

  • @robbymidgettofficial
    @robbymidgettofficial Рік тому +2

    Cerberus is terrible but ngl their aesthetics were WAY cooler than the Alliance

  • @xploslvable
    @xploslvable Рік тому

    mass effect when was the illusive man indoctrinated

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 7 місяців тому

    Without us there would be no humanity

  • @n543576
    @n543576 2 роки тому

    "He"?
    Commander Shepard is a She my dude!

  • @christianburnett236
    @christianburnett236 11 місяців тому

    This might be just an oversight, but its funny no matter how characters such as Ashley makes xenophobic remarks the aliens such as Talia, Liara, Garrus and more they just bite there tongue is if xenophobic comments are harmless, isn't that interesting?..

  • @theavpman4834
    @theavpman4834 3 роки тому +2

    First

    • @WiseFish
      @WiseFish  3 роки тому +3

      You loyal legend!

  • @joshallen4848
    @joshallen4848 Рік тому

    The end of Mass Effect 1 is like having hours of great sex and then the finish is wimpy and lasts 2 seconds, and then your power shuts off, and you remember you forgot to pay the bill. Not the finish you were hoping for. 😑