Catch & Release Mortality for Steelhead and Guiding
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Catch and release fishing is largely enjoyed by anglers who either don't like to eat fish or want to soften their impact on the fishery. However, although releasing a fish vs killing a fish certainly increases that fishes odds of survival, the process of catching that fish still reduces its chances. So if you love fish, maybe you should leave them alone. Well not entirely, anglers need to develop a respect and appreciating for the healthy intact ecosystems that boost good fishing in order to maintain the health of the fishery for future generations. All this being said, it is important for resource users to self reflect on their own impacts and work to minimize them when possible.
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I usually don't catch any fish so were good over here!
Something I have thought about for a long time. Would love to see more discussion on what causes the mortality, such as overplaying, hook size, terminal tackle, bait, using gloves and or poor handling and measures to minimize these impacts.
This i can tell you. If you are planning on releasing the fish you can't play them forever. If they are wild don't take them out of the water.
I run bigger tackle and horse them in...it's not the most romantic but
Yeah Ive had conversations with lots of friends about this. I think it's time to take a long hard look at our fisheries and our eating habits etc. Pressure needs to stop or at least be minimized. I think it starts with commercial fishing first, but then us as anglers and what we do and how we look and think about fishing. Love the box analogy.
@matty d You cannot inhibit the commies..because in reality all our conversation, laws, and regs are because of them.
You want to limit the kill counts, stop catch and release.
Catch and release done correctly doesn't harm fish. It's when people use bait, trebles, nets, play them out, drag them on the bank, hold them for 2 minutes trying to get a pic, etc. We've all seen the fish with huge battle scars that still make it to spawn. In reality these fish are tough it's the poor handling and treatment that kills them.
Thanks for starting my love for fly fishing… I’ll be forever grateful.
Unfortunately the people who are watching this in most case understand the dilemma , and so all we do is nod our heads . The bigger question is how do we get all the people with interest in our fish stocks to get together and discuss this in a civil manner to help stop the depletion? It’s our jobs to figure this out before it’s to late and our future generations are just eating farm raised Tilapia . Thanks for the video:-)
The impact of mortality caused by catch-and-release practices is often underestimated by both anglers and fishery managers. From a review of 118 catch-and-release studies (Appendix 1), which, in total, involved over 120,000 fish, the average mortality associated with catch-and-release angling was 16.2%.
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C&R has saved freshwater Muskellunge and Bass populations in the US. Many of those fishermen think that the resource has never been better.
Sadly too few views. Great work, thanks a lot!
The serious concerned voiceover, and piano music really sells the concept...much like the shivering puppies and mournful female singers on late night animal rights scams.
Release mortality is 1. overstated, and 2. still better than killing every fish hooked.
I bet that if you're not using bait, using single barbless hooks, using a rubberized net, not using gloves and keeping fish wet, the mortality rate is far lower than what he cited. Like someone else said, more research needs to be done before we start legislating away C&R.
Another great video. The mortality rate for steelhead of 5% is interesting and hopefully a little high. Land them quick, keep them wet, let them go as quick as possible and maybe we can get lower than that.
Great video
Captain Quinn!! keep them coming!
What an amazing video you put together .. Thanks for bring it up to the front on catch and release ..
This is one of those rare areas where I agree it requires govt enforcement. He is so right when he talks about the different 'camps' we are in, but I do not believe we will ever all come to the same table. Whether it's fish or game I feed my family from the field, and I abide by the current govt rules. Any further tightening of those restrictions will make me an outlaw.
Much respect... not many anglers talk about this.
@matty d damn straight, when are we going to start having the conversation about China, Russia and other countries coming to the gulf of Alaska stealing our fish? When are we going to start the conversation of the commercial guys in Alaska in Canada that are targeting the salmon that are migrating south for us rec fisherman that we pay for?!
So true
Awesome I love fish and fishing in many ways I agree with you!
That second guys points were very nicely stated. No more camps, we all have interest and individual responsibility towards the fishery. Should be working together.
This video hit me in the feels. I love taking care of my fish because I feel some type of ease and blessing when I hook and land them Then making sure the fish gets its best chance at swimming away for another day.
Yep , crossed my mind the other day.
FYI , retired commercial fishermen here. I remember seine fishing & catching a beautiful pod of Kings for $$. I felt remorseful.
It is critical that recreational fishers have this conversation with each other, particularly since BC doesn't have any standardized, mandatory educational courses, like the CORE for hunting. The number of people who I've seen drag salmon, even 25lb+ chinook up onto the gravel, let them quit flopping, remove the hook then literally kick them the 5-15' back to the water beggars belief. Not everyone is receptive, but it's worth trying to strike up a conversation and leading it around to fish handling. Low returns and increasing survivorship is generally a good launch pad.
I enjoyed the video Cap
Fantastic video. Great perspective
It's worth mentioning that catch and release fatality rates are much higher with fly fishing for steelhead. Regardless of the hook being barbless these fish are going to die of lactic acid buildup. It seems every steelhead I witness caught on a fly is played down until their able to grab it energy-less. Not the same case when I'm able to land the fish in a 1/3 of the time on conventional gear. Also worth mentioning that I'm only releasing the fish if its wild, out of season, or too far into the spawning process.
Is it worth mentioning then that conventional fisherman usually are using much bigger, more damaging hooks and tend to hook more fish per given time period purely through efficiency and effective fishing area that can be covered🤔
Benjamin Holm The size 2-4 octopus hooks I’m using while steelhead fishing is not what’s gonna kill the fish. It’s the fish being played out to exhaustion on fly gear lol. I also stated that I’m rarely ever a C&R angler by choice
@@keeganm9701 Good for you great choice of hook sizes that's very ethical of you but your average everyday spoon/jig tosser is chucking a gaff out there. I've used both conventional and fly techniques for a long time and I enjoy both to this very day but I just feel on average a gear fisherman will poke way more fish with bigger hooks and that cancels out the quick landing time. If the regulations dictated hook size it would really make a difference and that's something we as passionate anglers should push for in a C&R fishery. I'm not biased like I said I enjoy both.
@@benjaminaxselholm not many true native fish anyways, produce more fish. Everybody wins, people will be people and will ALWAYS fish with fly gear and conventional gear because both are amazing fun. Hatcheries especially in oregon and washington need to up their game, bottom line. Then with the abundance of fish , the few that die from catch and release will not be a big deal. They are ALL hatchery fish anyways down here. Fly guys and conventional will always argue just like the two of you, even more so on the river. trust me ive seen it! awareness of the mortality rate wont change the way people are people. hatchery fish don't take spawning ground and who cares if they interbreed because there is no native fish anyways, more fish will feed more orcas and less "native" fish will be eaten . PRODUCE FISH
Another amazing video by The Captain. Catch and release would be a bigger concern of mine... if i wasn’t such a trash angler, and I actually caught more fish. ;)
i only feed the ice box when it needs feeding .in other word .I catch and take when i want to eat fish . or it`s strickey C and R. I won`t waste a fished life unless i want fish to eat.
It also does make me sad when fish I catch die, i fact it’s the only thing aside from physical pain that makes me cry
Thanks for preservation of those fish
If you don’t try to get that catch and release pictures you will save fish lives ,
Just play the fish until you are happy with that fight and let the line go limp and the hook will release so there is less stress on the fish.
But when you fight that fish , net that fish it will have a lot more stress. Is that picture of your netted catch that important ! The netting kills more fish then the fishing part !
Think about that !
Blame C&R people. I catch my limit then done. C&R catch hundreds of fish and probably half of them dies. Plus C&R people go out fishing ten times more then those who eat them.
Exactly that’s what I do
@@markchoryan1187 Same here, CR guys tagg several fish and who knows what happens to them. I catch 2 and I'm done. If it takes all day or 20 minutes. The 2 and my day is done. I dont keep hooking them, stressing them out with hooks in theirs eyes or bleeding gills.
You want to save fish stop C&R
@@RaynBella yup cause when they c&r the still bleed even with barbless hooks and they play the fish till it’s pretty much exhausted with no energy and they will die shortly after release I get my limit and go cause steelhead is good eating it’s not a sport fish
@@markchoryan1187 you’re not right man and you shouldn’t be keeping wild steelhead
And the reason for tons of fish swimming around unable to be utilized...would be what?
There isn’t tons of fish swimming around and the use would be to let them have time to recover, so we they have a better chance at surviving.
@@fredthegamerschrarder7716 well i understand..and the people in charge of my state do just that..so whats the problem? Go see that person in charge..they pay folks a lot of money to be in charge of conservation
@@cag1763 no not really it’s actually management their main focus is managing fish as a resource. They aren’t like a non profit that focus all or the majority of its efforts into saving fish. The restoration part is done only becuase we recently discovered we can’t take and take without running out of fish. That can be seen by the huge amount of money they spend on hatchery fish because the majority of wild runs in the lower 48 are just trickles of fish. If there was tons of fish why do we need hatcheries. They did utilize the tone of fish swimming around until those tons disappeared and tax payers now pay millions upon millions for something like a 1% return so joe blow can go out and bring a fish home 😂.
@@fredthegamerschrarder7716 look..this started in the 60s..blame the folks in charge..the guy taking home fish aren't taken that many..on the est coast we have alk kinds of conservation..and its been going on since the 60s..I've watched..its up to you folks to catch up..your how many years behind?
@@cag1763 yeah but that “guy” is millions of people taking their limit of fish and those limits use to be super loose and the majority of those guys would flip the hell out of you mentioned reducing the amount of fish they could keep. You could keep a lot of fish back in the 60s. They wouldn’t let anyone into power that would put tougher regulations on them so it’s not fair to play the blame game, and point the finger at the “guy” in charge. There’s conservation everywhere idk if the east coast does more or less. I do know you have tons of species in need of help like Atlantic Salmon, Blue fin Tuna, brook trout, lake trout and more. Also Florida is a joke probably going to be known more for its invasive species then its natives.
Catch and release is a joke .if you love the fish leave them alone
#niskaknows
Steelhead make it hundreds of miles upstream in some cases. They go threw commercial fisherman, gill nets, dams, seals and then finally the sport fisherman. The 1 of 20 fish we kill is not part of the problem in any way shape or form. Most of you guys out west do not even catch 20 in a season. Some of you it takes many seasons to hit that number. Enough with the nonsense. Reel in the commercial fishing and gill nets. Tear down dams and restore habitat. Sport fisherman are the only advocate wild fish have left. The commercial guys and tribes would be happy enough to catch hatchery Frankenstiens. I get it is a livelihood that has been passed down for generations. I get the natives right to subsistence fishing. Things change and they need to change as well. Or accept the Frankenstuem fish as what you have.
You should only fish if you want to eat them
While I agree it's an important conversation to have, think about, and recognize. The reality is if you're not helping them you are hurting them. Whether you are an angler or not.
Case in point, stormwater runoff being especially lethal to Coho. We are talking ~100% mortality during first flush events. Check out WSU studies on this. Habitat destruction being another big problem these days. Obviously less habit = less fish.
While it's important to recognize the negative effects we rec anglers have on the fish we catch and how to reduce instances of mortality. The best thing we can do is find ways to make a postive difference on a broader scope.
If you find ways to give back, volunteer, change policies or fundraise - To build new, or restore/enhance existing habitat that will bring dozens, hundreds or potentially even thousands more fish back each year. It sure takes the sting out of recognizing that ~5% of the fish you hook die.
A recent John McMillan podcast really hit home in this regard recently. If you don't already tune into The OP Fishing Podcast, part of the Barbless network I would highly recommend it.
Ultimately, what he and his guests were mentioning is that some anglers (not all obviously, but many) have a sense of entitlement when it comes to "their" fishery. They've been fishing "their" river for years and regardless the size of the return they should be able to catch and keep quotas from previous years. Same could be said for those of us who target Steelhead with the intent to catch and release.
The question being:
You know a percentage of the fish you hook die,
This is your hobby (potentially even your passion),
Beyond paying taxes and hoping that DFO/FLNRORD are enhancing the waterways you fish ("your river(s)"),
Can you do more to make your hobby/passion more sustainable?
If u want meat just buy it from the store, it’s a lot cheaper than spending thousands of dollars on gear and tackle, most of which gets lost in the field, just to harvest a fish yourself
I hope you are kidding because if your not your an idiot
@@RaynBella this mans is obviously a snagger