Very well thought out video. Your explanations were spot on. I must say I think you were very respectful and humble in crediting the thread and its author. Happy blacksmithing to you. You'll go quite far.
Now that is one quiet anvil there. I built up an anvil stand not long ago using 2x12's and before mounting my anvil up to that stand I applied a bunch of silicone sealer to the top of it and then mounted my anvil to it. It's not quite as quiet as your anvil but it's pretty quiet just the same. It sure doesn't ring like a church bell. My wife even commented on how quiet it was.
I made a taper-sided steel stand from four slabs of 12mm steel plate, with a flat top of the same. Onto that I set a piece of 1/4" lead sheet and put the anvil on top of that. I welded four retaining bars (16mm square) all round to retain the anvil laterally, and stop it and the lead sheet sliding about. It bedded down nicely onto the lead sheet in a short time. The stand looks like a flat-topped pyramid (a steep one) with just a couple of inches of outward taper on all four sides. It looks and is sturdy. There is no bottom plate. I'm half-convinced (aka I've never been fully sure) that the lead sheet under the anvil has taken away some of the ring and tendency to bounce - though it is a 300 pounder. The lead definitely compensated for any slight imperfection in the base, so there is never any rocking at all. It cannot slide. It's occasionally bounced (slightly) under sledgehammer work. I did this in 1986 as a young man with an anvil acquisition and have never thought too much about it ever since. I didn't start proper blacksmithing on it until 2012. For all those years it's been a general garage tool, used mainly for basic cold bending and flattening and sheet metal forming. It was and still is in quite good condition, with a little saddling on the face So yeah, it's an Isaac Nash 300# coach-smiths anvil, with a nice side bick. I can't say how ringing it was without the lead sheet. Probably much more so. On a good timber stand it would probably be as quiet as it is now. I've recently acquired a 324# Mousehole double-horn anvil that has a sharp and clear ring. It will be too much to endure for long. I'm making another steel stand the same way and going the same route with a lead cushion. It will be interesting to see what happens with the ring. I want an even thicker lead cushion on this one, to be sure, say 10mm thick. I'm aiming to pour the lead into the shape created by the retaining bars - ie, the shape of the anvil footprint.
I'm really having a hard time finding step by step patterns for making your anvil and different styles if you could please share you're patterns or at least point me in the right direction that would be such a help thanks
By eliminating the ring aren't you also deadening the bounce back which is what you need in a good anvil. Seems that it isn't much different the a cast one at this point. An I wrong and if so how?
any advice on having a anvil in a concrete backyard ? and ive a A.S.O rail road track anvil also and the magnet works well in deadening the ring in A.S.O so any usfull info would be great :-) thanks Paul
Something that I find works well is if you take an old computer apart and take the magnets out of the hard drive and toss those under the horn and on the opposite end the ringing drops a lot. The magnets are small and strong and tend to keep out of the way.
I know nothing about blacksmithing. So my question is, why don't you want the anvil to ring? Does it damage your hearing in someway? Thanks for any help.
+Frank Gerlach Mostly it annoys the neighbors.And most of us love the ring of our Anvil, but there are times when you need to be "quiet" to avoid disturbing others.
There are 3 fundamental elements of vibration. Mass, stiffness, and damping. By changing any of these three items, you'll modify the frequency-response. This is pretty much what you've done. More so the mass component over the other two.
Imagine the guys who went deft back in the day from all the ringing!!!! there was a brand of anvils their claim to fame was NO RINGING! I think it was the Fisher Norris. Basically a hardened top fused to cast iron base.
Everything that kills the ring, also kills the blow of the hammer a little bit. The blow needs to stay in the piece hit and not go down the legs of the anvil.
Tinnitus is a terrible thing. Initially the ring is intriguing and enjoyable, then you hear it every second of everyday, for the rest of your life. Please wear the best PPE you can get.
a silence anvil is a dead blacksmith. Just joking that's what we say here in holland :P oh yeah forgot it. if you put a big magnet on the anvil it wil also silence it
Very well thought out video. Your explanations were spot on. I must say I think you were very respectful and humble in crediting the thread and its author. Happy blacksmithing to you. You'll go quite far.
Where can you get those blacksmithing shoes?
LOL.
Now that is one quiet anvil there. I built up an anvil stand not long ago using 2x12's and before mounting my anvil up to that stand I applied a bunch of silicone sealer to the top of it and then mounted my anvil to it. It's not quite as quiet as your anvil but it's pretty quiet just the same. It sure doesn't ring like a church bell. My wife even commented on how quiet it was.
Great video. What size wood did you use under the anvil? 3 different blocks or one large piece?
A Peter Write with an England stamp on it, rare and old. Take care of that anvil.
Skeptic Spartan I have one and am willing to sell it.
Both -my anvil nor my phone ever ring. For my body is beaten and my people gone. I am lonely
+Just Me We should hang out
That's deep
Same here... Same here lol
That's pretty interesting, i'm sure adding a mass to one of the horns will also decrease ring even more
Paul, if you were my Son I would be very proud of what you have achieved. Please keep on doing what your doing!
As much as I love the ring of an anvil, I may need to do this with mine, because I don't think the neighbors share my enthusiasm for blacksmithing.
IamNemoN01
Uh oh lol
Are the legs buried down into the dirt?
You can slap a strong magnet on the side of the anvil under the horn and that will remove almost all ring.
I made a taper-sided steel stand from four slabs of 12mm steel plate, with a flat top of the same. Onto that I set a piece of 1/4" lead sheet and put the anvil on top of that. I welded four retaining bars (16mm square) all round to retain the anvil laterally, and stop it and the lead sheet sliding about. It bedded down nicely onto the lead sheet in a short time. The stand looks like a flat-topped pyramid (a steep one) with just a couple of inches of outward taper on all four sides. It looks and is sturdy. There is no bottom plate.
I'm half-convinced (aka I've never been fully sure) that the lead sheet under the anvil has taken away some of the ring and tendency to bounce - though it is a 300 pounder. The lead definitely compensated for any slight imperfection in the base, so there is never any rocking at all. It cannot slide. It's occasionally bounced (slightly) under sledgehammer work. I did this in 1986 as a young man with an anvil acquisition and have never thought too much about it ever since. I didn't start proper blacksmithing on it until 2012. For all those years it's been a general garage tool, used mainly for basic cold bending and flattening and sheet metal forming. It was and still is in quite good condition, with a little saddling on the face
So yeah, it's an Isaac Nash 300# coach-smiths anvil, with a nice side bick. I can't say how ringing it was without the lead sheet. Probably much more so. On a good timber stand it would probably be as quiet as it is now.
I've recently acquired a 324# Mousehole double-horn anvil that has a sharp and clear ring. It will be too much to endure for long. I'm making another steel stand the same way and going the same route with a lead cushion. It will be interesting to see what happens with the ring. I want an even thicker lead cushion on this one, to be sure, say 10mm thick. I'm aiming to pour the lead into the shape created by the retaining bars - ie, the shape of the anvil footprint.
I'm really having a hard time finding step by step patterns for making your anvil and different styles if you could please share you're patterns or at least point me in the right direction that would be such a help thanks
By eliminating the ring aren't you also deadening the bounce back which is what you need in a good anvil. Seems that it isn't much different the a cast one at this point. An I wrong and if so how?
very creative, you can tell the anvil still has great rebound for the work at hand but the ring has been dampened down probably 50%. good job.
any advice on having a anvil in a concrete backyard ? and ive a A.S.O rail road track anvil also and the magnet works well in deadening the ring in A.S.O so any usfull info would be great :-)
thanks Paul
when you get to the anvil that weighs 180kg the sound does NOT change if you anchor it down
Something that I find works well is if you take an old computer apart and take the magnets out of the hard drive and toss those under the horn and on the opposite end the ringing drops a lot. The magnets are small and strong and tend to keep out of the way.
Andrew Smith Magnets from old loudspeakers are very effective to, but everything that is magnetic and have some mass to it will work fine.
Paul please tell me of what is fill the legs of the base?? thank´s for your answer nice video!! sorry I dont have a good hearing
Luis Hernández filled the legs with sawdust & oil, ...
Thank you very much!!!
is i forge iron only a usa based site ? as i cant become a member and i live in Ireland Please let me know what the story with the site
Well, I finally found my anvil stand design. Thanks!
I know nothing about blacksmithing. So my question is, why don't you want the anvil to ring? Does it damage your hearing in someway? Thanks for any help.
+Frank Gerlach Mostly it annoys the neighbors.And most of us love the ring of our Anvil, but there are times when you need to be "quiet" to avoid disturbing others.
I have watched several of your videos. I liked them very much. You are very creative. You will do very well as a blacksmith.
Nice job, thanks for giving credit to another craftsman for their ideas.
Good video Paul what hammer where u using
I am using my 4lb rounding hammer.
Hey , can I ask where u purchased that hammer?
is that hammer made by Alec Steel?
There are 3 fundamental elements of vibration. Mass, stiffness, and damping. By changing any of these three items, you'll modify the frequency-response. This is pretty much what you've done. More so the mass component over the other two.
got yer chinese work boots on
So how many dB is it going to make?
I love the ring of the anvil
wow you are really lucky to have a real peter wright Anvil from England those are really old pre 1910
What is the hole on the front of the anvil for? (@ 2:46)
Most likely so you can easily bend something?
There are two, one on each side. They're for inserting bars with which to carry the anvil.
To add to this: It was part of the manufacturing process. Forged anvils were (are?) all made with these.
go into settings and turn off block noises
hey is it a Fisher anvil?
you are joking right
I large magnent works too
Sand works too it’s more the anvil being down tight
Kill an anvils ring? Monstrous. LET IT RING!!!
Imagine the guys who went deft back in the day from all the ringing!!!! there was a brand of anvils their claim to fame was NO RINGING! I think it was the Fisher Norris. Basically a hardened top fused to cast iron base.
Don't hit the anvil hit the metal that's a way to stay quiet and not fuck it up
Great video very informative 😊👍
Everything that kills the ring, also kills the blow of the hammer a little bit.
The blow needs to stay in the piece hit and not go down the legs of the anvil.
I love the ring of my anvil. Wouldn’t want to deaden the ring!
speak up - I can't hear you !
....but thats the best part.... The sound..the ring...
Not according to most neighbours.
I had tinnitus long before. It's already too late for me. Save yourselves.
I will embrace the dinging!
Awesome on the link!
Build a roof over that stuff man. Rust scares me.
+Caleb Whittington Could leave that anvil out in the woods for 500 years, rain shine, whatever, and it'd still be good as new. ;D
Sand will do the same as the saw dust, it's heavier but when your talking about anvils who cares.
Good to know. I happen to work at a sand mine.
Why do you want to kill the Ring?
It seems like a Cheerful Sound.
…..RVM45
It gets annoying after awhile of forging
Tinnitus is a terrible thing. Initially the ring is intriguing and enjoyable, then you hear it every second of everyday, for the rest of your life. Please wear the best PPE you can get.
Very nice!
a silence anvil is a dead blacksmith. Just joking that's what we say here in holland :P oh yeah forgot it. if you put a big magnet on the anvil it wil also silence it
just saw the end..... nevermind.
You placed soil over the bottom of the legs not dirt,dirt is what you wash of your hands after you have finished the job,
Super maestro of albania