Chantal Akerman's 'Jeanne Dielman' Is a True Action Movie

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  • @gifthuizlikegod
    @gifthuizlikegod 6 років тому +65

    Excellent analysis. I love this film. First saw it at a midnight showing in SF years ago. There were ten people in the theatre at the start of the film, five walked out. I was told by a friend what to expect and found myself immersed in the subtleties. I didn't seem like a 200 minute viewing. I couldn't pass this up on blu ray during Barnes and Noble's Criterion sale.

  • @lolarogers2313
    @lolarogers2313 Рік тому +21

    For years I thought this sounded like a film designed to try my patience--that its point was tedium. But since it was so highly acclaimed, I decided to give it a try, and I was absolutely spellbound. I like movies that allow me to think while I watch them. It has so many plausible, more or less equally satisfying messages within it.

    • @PayneToTheMax
      @PayneToTheMax 2 місяці тому +1

      Yep, "spellbound" is the best way to put it. I was entranced for 3h20m. Hardly felt like a second went by. I love slow cinema so much.

  • @chrisballas3356
    @chrisballas3356 2 роки тому +65

    The sooner people can get over their attention span issues, the sooner perhaps cinema can make a comeback.

    • @hmicky-mickey
      @hmicky-mickey 2 роки тому +2

      I agree. And the vulgarity of afternoon serial, Marvel movies will have to stop making a lot of money.

    • @rahulbasak5739
      @rahulbasak5739 2 роки тому +14

      Cinema is still here. Get over from your elitist high horse.

    • @chrisballas3356
      @chrisballas3356 2 роки тому +8

      @@rahulbasak5739 there's no elitist attitude here. You were clearly bothered by what I said. It's not just attention span but also the overall dumbing down of society. Cinema in the right hands is a beautiful art, that's something you clearly know nothing about.

    • @rahulbasak5739
      @rahulbasak5739 2 роки тому +8

      @@chrisballas3356 your statement proves my point. You don't even know me yet you assume that I don't know that Cinema is a beautiful art in the right hands. Thank you for your ignorance

    • @chrisballas3356
      @chrisballas3356 2 роки тому +4

      @@rahulbasak5739 I don't know you? Do you know me? Didn't you start it all by assuming I'm an elitist? It's clear and obvious that you've learned how to make arguments via conservative media techniques. In other words your arguments don't hold water.

  • @JacobLomax
    @JacobLomax 4 роки тому +36

    The sound design is so fantastic- the clicking of shoes-squeaking door hinges- the flow of the water faucet- the clink of her money vase- gives the air of the potential for catastrophe- I’m 80 episodes into Mary Hartman and I read this fabulous article by Claire Barliant who compared the show to this film- leading me to your video ! Great content

    • @DLZ2000
      @DLZ2000 Рік тому +1

      Wow, going into this, my partner thought it sounded like Mary Hartman to her. And it did to me, too, when one's world is consumed by waxy yellow buildup and the drama escalates in the margins of the everyday.

  • @lakrids-pibe
    @lakrids-pibe 4 роки тому +75

    I was reluctant to spend 3 hours with this film, because it sounded like an art-film in the worst sense of the word: very boring and pretentious. But it was so engaging. It's like a 3 hour ASMR video.

    • @MeltonECartes
      @MeltonECartes Рік тому +4

      Yes! It's funny that "pretentious" is the last thing JD23QDC1080B is. It rejects artifice and plops all dramaturgical questions on our laps. It's not like Akerman is unaccountable about her narrative. It's just that this film demands that one shut up, sit still, and watch. Which actually is not that big of an ask.

  • @chrisbender8714
    @chrisbender8714 4 роки тому +30

    I made it through without falling asleep! Now I feel like I can do anything!!

  • @christopherfisher3251
    @christopherfisher3251 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this video essay, I agree that it is action-packed... if you know where to look. The film took me a few tries, but if you're open to it's world, it's 100% engrossing.

  • @sky44david
    @sky44david 6 років тому +18

    You understand the late Akerman. Beautiful!

  • @leslieannvanhumbeck7630
    @leslieannvanhumbeck7630 Місяць тому +2

    I relate to her so much. 😢

  • @zz-ps6ph
    @zz-ps6ph 2 місяці тому +1

    So maybe it’s not the GOAT, but it’s definitely one of the GOAT films. For people like me who adore watching minutae, don’t need a soundtrack to tell me how to feel, can appreciate a very quiet drama. Of course it will bore those who require more oomph. I can easily watch a 3 hr deeply detailed film. For those who blast the film for its length, slow burn, subject matter, it’s just not your cup of tea. Or plate of potatoes.

  • @lloydbowers8997
    @lloydbowers8997 9 місяців тому +1

    I speak German and have travelled in Belgium. I am always impressed at how relentlessly social European life is, especially if you have children. The intrusively social nature of life over there keeps people connected to each other. To me, Socialism really means socialization. People have attachments. It presents a problem for this movie. In real life, Akerman would never spend this much time alone. However, she had no children. She remained attached to her mother in a desperate, unhealthy way and felt lost and disconnected when her mother passed away.

  • @plasmadlite8661
    @plasmadlite8661 3 роки тому +6

    This is a great video-essay, very well done! it definitely does justice to the film

  • @leslieannvanhumbeck7630
    @leslieannvanhumbeck7630 Місяць тому +1

    Where can I see it?

  • @ManorHQ
    @ManorHQ 9 місяців тому

    A valuable study piece for actors.

  • @Jennifervz5jl
    @Jennifervz5jl 2 роки тому +2

    Brilliant movie 🎥

  • @MeltonECartes
    @MeltonECartes Рік тому

    Excellent commentary.

  • @janscott602
    @janscott602 2 роки тому +1

    I fell asleep and missed the ending.

  • @Andreasjacke1
    @Andreasjacke1 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this - greetings from berlin!

  • @TwoonyHorned
    @TwoonyHorned Рік тому +1

    00:49 "Jeanne Dielman [...] is a movie of actions". Well, this seems to be case of any movie.

  • @TheNeverposts
    @TheNeverposts 6 років тому +7

    I kinda wanna watch it now

  • @golu_badbola
    @golu_badbola 3 роки тому +5

    Adam is a poo pop head.
    He didn't understand the true meaning of this CGI masterpiece.

  • @GA-1st
    @GA-1st 2 роки тому +1

    The greatest film of all time? December 2022 "Sight and Sound" decennial critics poll

    • @msthealewis
      @msthealewis 2 роки тому

      Interesting to note it was previously #37? How did it suddenly get to be "the greatest film of all time?"

    • @jamesoakes1819
      @jamesoakes1819 2 роки тому

      I'd never heard of this film until the 2022 sight and sound came out which immediately made skeptical about the intentions of the voters. Apparently the main reason for the film's sudden jump to the top was because it was the only film directed by a woman that everyone could agree on in order to check off all the different diversity markers. It does feel like a bit like an affirmative action win, but at the end of the day these lists don't really matter. They never mattered and it's stupid to even get mad about them.

  • @alienanxiety
    @alienanxiety 2 роки тому +5

    This shit makes Ozu films look like John Wick.

  • @langdonboom
    @langdonboom 2 роки тому

    Yes

  • @tomtube1012
    @tomtube1012 4 роки тому +5

    Why did she kill the guy at the end of the film?

    • @cecilev.9253
      @cecilev.9253 4 роки тому +7

      Can't you see? she had enough and disgusted with all.. Suddenly.

    • @zenli1407
      @zenli1407 3 роки тому +2

      don't think too hard about it... the filmmaker left it vague on purpose

    • @HBICTiff
      @HBICTiff 3 роки тому +8

      She has a set schedule every single day and everything she does (in her precise manner) keeps her sanity afloat. When she breaks that schedule in the tiniest way, it alters her precision and she will only know how to go off the deep end. For her, breaking a spoon is the same as murdering a person.

    • @plasmadlite8661
      @plasmadlite8661 3 роки тому +16

      she has had enough of it all indeed, but it's not all so sudden! day in-day out she does all these thankless jobs which aren't even considered work, but on which the patriarchy rests... One the (many) big feats of Chantal Akerman is managing to portray even prostitution as yet another one of the menial tasks Jeanne does all day... on top of that, Delphine's superb acting conveys the distress that last guy has put her through, he most definitely had it coming but at the same time, his murder is symbolic for all the men that have been before. It's not that her routine was suddenly off and that brought her over the edge, it's everything adding up to that day! that's a gross oversimplification for this masterpiece of a film

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 2 роки тому

      @@plasmadlite8661 'the last guy' didn't give her 'distress', he gave her an orgasm (maybe you've never had one or don't know what that is?), which is the key thing - that was possibly the biggest 'break' in her routine. 'he had it coming' - misandry, how original

  • @jennybardoville5455
    @jennybardoville5455 2 роки тому +2

    I'm guessing this was the filmmaker's true desire, since there's no such thing as fiction; to put an end to her own banal life.
    Could have been a short film, of course, but you're supposed to hate her life by the end.
    I preferred 'Victoria' as a seeping-with-tension real time observation.
    Unfortunately, neither films understand the divine feminine tucked away in women.

  • @Mosilam
    @Mosilam 4 роки тому +3

    ... Divine Delphine ...

  • @adrianleverkin5226
    @adrianleverkin5226 10 місяців тому +1

    i watched it at 2.5x speed and i liked it

  • @k-fop
    @k-fop 3 роки тому +3

    ASMR queen

  • @jlg5967
    @jlg5967 2 роки тому +2

    Rolling Stone votes Lou Reed's METAL MACHINE MUSIC best album of all time!

    • @haydenwalton2766
      @haydenwalton2766 11 місяців тому

      yep, pretentious dickheads who's sole purpose in life is to bully and intimidate people into thinking that they are much better and smarter than you.

  • @aIewishus
    @aIewishus 5 років тому +2

    spoilers

  • @21c.fenidecht
    @21c.fenidecht Рік тому

    ASMR off the charts. Wouldn't make it. 😴

  • @jlg5967
    @jlg5967 2 роки тому +2

    This film has a large target on it's back .Watch it's reputation decline in the next ten years.

    • @jamesoakes1819
      @jamesoakes1819 2 роки тому +2

      I'd never heard of this film until the 2022 sight and sound came out which immediately made skeptical about the intentions of the voters. Apparently the main reason for the film's sudden jump to the top was because it was the only film directed by a woman that everyone could agree on in order to check off all the different diversity markers. It does feel like a bit like an affirmative action win, but at the end of the day these lists don't really matter. They never mattered and it's stupid to even get mad about them.

    • @brandedtotroll9153
      @brandedtotroll9153 2 роки тому +1

      Not only is Jeanne Dielman definitively NOT the greatest movie of all time but it could easily be called the worst movie of all time. 3 and 1/2 hours of a woman doing chores shouldn't be considered a good movie by anyone.

    • @tomc8888
      @tomc8888 2 роки тому +1

      Agree, though I think #1 on the S and S list is likely to be something that will rotate out with every list going forward . I'd guess that Kubrick's 2001 will probably top the 2032 list, and it's unlikely that any film will have a multi-poll run like Citizen Kane did.
      As for overall reputation, Jeanne Dielman won't have the same cultural cache as Kane had and still has; it won't seen as the Mount Everest of cinema.
      As someone who strongly dislikes Jeanne Dielman, I welcome the backlash against it. The film is bloated, boring and massively overrated, and the "it's a masterpiece!" crowd are insufferable.

    • @duongngo602
      @duongngo602 2 роки тому +5

      @@brandedtotroll9153 man pissed off because critics have opinions different from him 🤓

  • @rawvegangreece
    @rawvegangreece Рік тому

    this film is unnecessary long this is why many people doesnt like it. The director could express the same feeling with a 2 hour long movie instead of 3 h and 21m without loosing its feeling ! i will love to see this as theatrical play more than film.

  • @MSYNGWIE12
    @MSYNGWIE12 3 роки тому

    The film ( which I've not seen) so I should amend it to- these snippets, convey such ennui I grew tired watching her routine a-c-t-i-o-n-s, it is said we make our own life- knowing she has a disabled son and is bourgeois I wonder...A film to check out in full...

  • @argentokaos2629
    @argentokaos2629 2 роки тому +1

    It is an action movie.
    Simplistic, randomly and illogically and unconvincingly violent--- and *dumbed-down.*

  • @jamesoakes1819
    @jamesoakes1819 2 роки тому +3

    I'd never heard of this film until the 2022 sight and sound came out which immediately made skeptical about the intentions of the voters. Apparently the main reason for the film's sudden jump to the top was because it was the only film direct by a wonan that everyone could agree on in order to check off all the different diversity markers. It does feel like a bit like an affirmative action win, but at the end of the day these lists don't really matter. They never mattered and it's stupid to even get mad about them.

    • @hmicky-mickey
      @hmicky-mickey 2 роки тому +1

      CORRECT! American female directors are some of the most pandered to filmmakers on the planet. And, outside of a few truly talented ones, are not very good. Not only that, their themes are unusually the same: romantic relationships gone awry, gratuitous sex, color coordinated scenes, and again....gratuitous sex.

    • @KendraEMoyer
      @KendraEMoyer 2 роки тому +3

      @@hmicky-mickey I am not understanding your comment. Can you specify which directors are pandered to, and what that looks like in both male and female directors?

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 роки тому

      @@hmicky-mickey have you ever seen a film?

    • @celineruffino9820
      @celineruffino9820 2 роки тому +1

      @@KendraEMoyer all of them, does that answer your question?

    • @hmicky-mickey
      @hmicky-mickey 2 роки тому +1

      @@KendraEMoyer Most female American directors right now are AWFUL. They wouldn't have been making movies 10 years ago but because of the "#metoo" movement, the floodgates of mediocrity have broken open to these women who have nothing truly artistic or humanly insightful to say about people, outside some trendy, feminist mumbo jumbo. Nepotism and "who you know..." has a lot to do with the inundation of mediocre, female directors as well. The few talented, female directors are getting drowned out by the loud, super ambitious, well-connected majority of (white) American female, film makers. Sundance and others are pandering to these milquetoast, mediocre to talentless women who want to try their hand at directing.

  • @ianwilliams6042
    @ianwilliams6042 Рік тому

    So this film is better than Citizen Kane and Vertigo. Really?

  • @valiailieva.escritora4753
    @valiailieva.escritora4753 6 місяців тому

    very boring picture

  • @marshallbjohnson
    @marshallbjohnson 2 роки тому +4

    Violence must have an antisocial antecedent. It is the romantic notion that "frustration, grief, loneliness and self-pity can cause violence. I work in prison. I've worked in incarcerated settings for 25 years. I appreciate the film-making but the storyline is implausible. Watch the "Burning Bed" or "Extremities" to get to an understanding about violence of this type. Men are inclined to think that women act like them. This excuses their misogyny and complete patriarchal oppression. I don't believe this character. It's too neat. Like James Stewart in "Rope." Looks good. But I know real killers- of every type. Killers driven by passion, psychopaths and suicidal/homicidal nihilists. This character doesn't move me. Sorry NY Times neoliberals. She isn't a prostitute nor is she a killer.
    Killing is primal. Sex is primal. Food is primal. Everything here is tidy. Esoterica. The slowness convinces us of its realness. But the actions here are a contrivance propelled by fantasy. Neither the director nor the screenwriter know anything about real violence. Watch "night, Mother" or "Betty Blue" to investigate maternal/feminine violence, self-violence. This is in the tradition of "The Professional" and scores of other films that romanticize murder. Fine to watch- discuss and enjoy- but not on par with films like "Last Exit to Brooklyn" to understand sex, violence and society.

    • @hmicky-mickey
      @hmicky-mickey 2 роки тому +2

      Apparently the main reason for the film's jump to the top was because it was the only film direct by a woman. American, white women are some of the most pandered filmmakers on the planet. And, outside of a few truly talented female filmmakers, they are not very good. Your take on brutal violence is correct. I wouldn't leave it to a woman, especially an American woman, to make a comment on violence. Not only that, their themes are unusually the same: romantic relationships gone awry, gratuitous sex, color-coordinated scenes, and again....gratuitous sex.

    • @argentokaos2629
      @argentokaos2629 2 роки тому

      Thank you. Any intelligent adult with basic psychological understanding will know right away that the ending of this movie rings completely false--- and some may well wonder why it got *tacked on* to this material.
      The answer is very simple: the history/nature of *minimalist narrative* (in literature and film). The tradition of minimalist (e.g., "slow cinema") narrative works like the following (going all the way back to Hemingway's debut novel): you devote your entire first and second acts to truly lulling the viewer, even the most discerning, into believing that nothing much is happening with your semi-anonymous, "slice-of-life" characters (and probably--- nothing much is). Then, rather late in your third act, long after many audience members will have given up and checked out, you spring one singular ironic surprise that forces the audience to--- as the critics just love to say--- recalibrate everything they've seen before.
      With a good minimalist storyteller on a good day (Camus, Bresson, Jim Jarmusch), this approach can come across as clever and enlightening and even logical. With Chantal Akerman and "Jeanne Dielman," it feels like exactly what it is: tacked-on. I will give Akerman some chutzpah credit for taking such a seriously cliched (even in 1975) approach--- and acting like she was the first person to ever think of it. But she WASN'T. (Again, it only even works with a good storyteller on a good day.)

    • @riskybiscutz
      @riskybiscutz Рік тому

      @@hmicky-mickeyyour hatred of women is showing.

    • @riskybiscutz
      @riskybiscutz Рік тому +1

      That’s a long ass paragraph, you could’ve just said: “I don’t know shit about fuck.”

    • @hmicky-mickey
      @hmicky-mickey Рік тому +1

      @@riskybiscutz I love women. I have a strong dislike for the privileged, entitled behavior of American, white women and how they are also enabled. Narcissism, and VIDICTIVENESS, shaken together with victimhood, makes a molotav cocktail for this treacherous group. And they are responsible for much cruelty over the centuries in America. Fortunately,
      Americans and people all over the world are becoming extremely aware of this group. They're enabled because they behave as weak victims but they are indeed not weak at all, they are self-centered, narcissistic and vindictive. Most of their work in the arts is filled with color-coordinated mediocrity, blatant nudity and relationship driven drama. Although there are wonderful women who are American, overall, everything I am saying is spot on, AND EVEN OTHER WOMEN A.G.R.E.E. ! Thank you.

  • @SpookyNero
    @SpookyNero 2 роки тому +1

    ... I can't 'bate to this... Is this an elaborate joke? This was the BFI's pick for TOP FILM OF ALL TIME?!? Yeah, go to hell Kubrick, Kurosawa, Bergman, Ozu, Fellini... yeah, yeah, this is the crowning achievement the history of cinema has produced...

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 роки тому +1

      It is

    • @helvete_ingres4717
      @helvete_ingres4717 2 роки тому

      it's an interesting experiment, but that's (pretty much) all it is: it is 'cinema' as anti-cinema. To award it this honor is to spit on the very notion that cinema is an art which can move and inspire you, or anything more than a dry academic exercise that is there to question the viewer on why they find entertaining/interesting stuff entertaining or interesting and why they don't find inspiration in the height of mundanity. I 'got' the film, I read what the director said about it afterwards and I got it all as I was watching (this is a film where your mind really had no choice but to wander b/c it gives you nothing to engage you), what I did NOT get was enjoyment, a feeling my time was well-spent, or an iota of inspiration. I felt oppressed by it - which was kind of an interesting experience in itself

    • @DLZ2000
      @DLZ2000 Рік тому +1

      @@helvete_ingres4717why would you grade a film by the level of enjoyment you feel from it? Films aren't necessarily supposed to make you feel better.

  • @Mark_Solonin1941
    @Mark_Solonin1941 2 роки тому

    she is woman. she is a lesbian. she is mediocre. Today, this is enough for her film to be named the best film of all time.

  • @bklewis6399
    @bklewis6399 3 роки тому +7

    As the Clinton administration taught us, you can "spin" anything to make it into whatever you want it to be. Call it art if you want, but its pure boredom....

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 роки тому +8

      As the Trump administration taught us, lies can be repeated until the truth is irrelevant. This is a truly magnificent work of art and you are boring

  • @GamingAnimator1
    @GamingAnimator1 3 роки тому +10

    The most boring movie of all time.

  • @genarosiles2951
    @genarosiles2951 Рік тому

    Worst. Film. Ever.

  • @fireinthesky2333
    @fireinthesky2333 21 день тому

    The most pretentious, boring, stupid film ever made.

  • @user-nq9gz4xf7f
    @user-nq9gz4xf7f Рік тому

    Cinéma vérité? It's a bit stiff and artificial. Film an old bachelor or divorced man through lonely pathetic day....his actions...would be maybe a statement too.

  • @MohamedMohamed-zp6re
    @MohamedMohamed-zp6re 3 роки тому +5

    Boring does not come close to describing the sheer tedium of this crap. The worst thing ever committed to film. Mind-numbingly dull.

    • @plasmadlite8661
      @plasmadlite8661 3 роки тому +24

      welcome to realism in cinema and a style of editing that doesn't spoon feed you the meaning of the film. you have to do a bit of brain work, it's sometimes uncomfortable.

    • @7Karis
      @7Karis 2 роки тому

      Different strokes for different folks, baby darlin

    • @msthealewis
      @msthealewis 2 роки тому +2

      @@plasmadlite8661 Discomfort can be conveyed in fewer than three hours. This is one of those, "The Emperor has no clothes." scenarios.

    • @plasmadlite8661
      @plasmadlite8661 2 роки тому

      @@msthealewis if you don’t get it it’s fine, you don’t have to like it to admit it’s objectively good. It respects the integrity of time, something that of course someone used to the hectic cuts of whatever Marvel movie is currently trending isn’t used to…

    • @marknewbold2583
      @marknewbold2583 2 роки тому

      Have you ever seen a film?