Very interesting video, and on something I'd never heard of. A few newspaper articles which I'll link below shine a little more light on Cash's involvement, but not too much more. The Cashes and the Grahams were coincidentally in Jamaica at the same time for the Christmas of 1982 when Johnny Cash ran into Billy Graham's wife, Ruth, who gave him an early copy of the film's script which she gave to him. Ruth was evidently the main driving force in asking him to do the film, though he later would say he felt "led" to acting in the film. Apparently some of the awkwardness of the scenes at the fort can be attributed to frequent interruptions; a large section of the first article linked is devoted to mentioning the interruptions to filming, ranging from helicopters to sea planes to tourists. The release was planned for December of 1983 and not the January date listed--January is impossible, since they finished filming in July. As of June 1983 they were "working" on distribution in North America, but obviously it never went anywhere. Finally, according to reports, only about 1/4 of the film was actually filmed in BC, with the rest being shot in Hong Kong and Japan. - www.newspapers.com/image/493864704/ - www.newspapers.com/image/501510144/
Excellent stuff! I'll pin it so other people can check it out. Didn't find this stuff in my research. This at least helps clear some stuff up. Still curious if there was ever an actual reason it was never released in English...
Maybe it's because I found this channel late at night, a bit ago, or maybe it's because you make videos on very obscure bits of mostly Americana, but I find your your videos to be almost ethereal and haunting. keep up the good work, can't wait for your next video. (Also You are such a weeb to even mention the Setsuma! :P)
I was the uploader. It got removed due to copyright and the computer I had it on died. I'm going to rip the DVD again one day and reupload it to a site that it will probably not get taken down.
I wonder what happened to it's English distribution. I can imagine a bunch of evangelical youth group leaders buying up an English release DVD to to try and 'relate' to kids these days. Anime is Japanese after all.
This is still my biggest question. I wonder understand if it was just dropped. But the fact "Shiokari Pass" is listed on the WWP webpage, but not "Kairei", is just very bizarre. Since they seem to have been produced under the same agreement. I know the person who responded to my e-mail was just some office worker, but I really wonder if anyone at the Billy Graham Association remembers this exists.
@@Pseudiom it would be neat if the relevant people managing Johnny Cash's estate and keeping his legacy alive would work together with Billy Graham Association to release the film with digital remastering (the Japanese DVD release is a quite crude straight-up port from VHS looking at the quality). It would be a great service for Johnny Cash (this being one of his few film roles) and I suppose from Billy Graham Association's evangelical point of view it would be a nice film to have available.
I'm a big Johnny Cash fan so I'd definitely like it to be "officially" released in some form in America. Part of the reason I made this video. I know this movie is really only "competent" at best, but I think people would like to see it. Hopefully this video eventually reaches someone with some pull at either place.
I don't have any idea how i came to this video, but it is really incredible and facinating the history behind this movie!! You really made a great job in your searching, so thanks for all that effort. Greets from Chile jeje
Hey man, I am so glad you uploaded this video because I have been trying to track this movie down online. Unfortunately, it looks like the source you linked to got copyrighted. Do you know another source or have a file of it that you saved?
I know that the acoustic guitar didn't exist the same way it was depicted in this film. Because of that, the musical section must have been almost completely fiction.
Guitars have been around for a long time, even as there have been changes throughout history: here is a picture of the oldest surviving guitar in the USA which dates back to 1834 (fittingly enough the year that these Japanese castaways were rescued by McLoughlin) and was made by Christian Frederick Martin (the C.F. Martin himself whose company exists to this very day) www.oldest.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/C.F.-Martin.jpg - the one Johnny Cash uses in the scene (probably one of his own personal guitars) is obviously a newer guitar, but still. I haven't found anything to ascertain that the real-life McLoughlin would have played any musical instruments, but as a very wealthy, highly educated and cultured man he certainly would have had the means to support musical hobbies. With all that being said, the scene was evidently included so that Johnny Cash could put what he was famous for into use in the movie. Anyways - thanks for the great video - I remember watching this movie when it appeared on UA-cam and I found it quite fascinating.
@@NikoChristianWallenberg The dreadnought didn't exist. It was invented in the 1920s. Acoustic guitars before that made in America were often parlor guitars, spanish guitars, or european style guitars like Lutes.
He didn't claim that it did exist in those days - he acknowledged how there have been different guitar types with changes throughout history and how Johnny Cash was using a type of guitar that is not from the period - he was only pointing that there were guitars (like the oldest surviving example from the USA that he posted and which actually dates from the particular year), even if what Johnny Cash uses is not from the period (obviously they wouldn't go through the effort of procuring a period correct guitar) ^_^
Fort Vancouver was not British Columbia- There was a joint claim in effect since 1818 between the US and Britain which was not decided until 1846 with the Oregon Treaty.
@@Pseudiom Good commentary and research! I was one of the locals playing opposite JC in a couple of the clips you show. Singer/Actor 西郷 輝彦 (Saigo Teruhiko) played PM Sato in a J-movie of the same year ('83) and was also in The Last Samurai. I picked up a new DVD of Kairei in a shop in Ochanomizu a number of years ago which is still 'new' if anyone would be interested in seeing this.
I am the original uploader, it got taken down due to copyright and my rip of the film is on a dead computer. I'm going to rip the DVD again and upload it to a site that will most likely not take it down.
@@mysouliswet oh please do. Please let me know when you do as I really would like to watch it. My question is who in the world would make a copyright claim on a movie no one hardly knows exists.?
Very interesting video, and on something I'd never heard of. A few newspaper articles which I'll link below shine a little more light on Cash's involvement, but not too much more.
The Cashes and the Grahams were coincidentally in Jamaica at the same time for the Christmas of 1982 when Johnny Cash ran into Billy Graham's wife, Ruth, who gave him an early copy of the film's script which she gave to him. Ruth was evidently the main driving force in asking him to do the film, though he later would say he felt "led" to acting in the film.
Apparently some of the awkwardness of the scenes at the fort can be attributed to frequent interruptions; a large section of the first article linked is devoted to mentioning the interruptions to filming, ranging from helicopters to sea planes to tourists. The release was planned for December of 1983 and not the January date listed--January is impossible, since they finished filming in July. As of June 1983 they were "working" on distribution in North America, but obviously it never went anywhere.
Finally, according to reports, only about 1/4 of the film was actually filmed in BC, with the rest being shot in Hong Kong and Japan.
- www.newspapers.com/image/493864704/
- www.newspapers.com/image/501510144/
Great research, thanks
Excellent stuff! I'll pin it so other people can check it out. Didn't find this stuff in my research.
This at least helps clear some stuff up. Still curious if there was ever an actual reason it was never released in English...
I’m doubling the point the other commenter made when they said that they loved your content. Keep fighting the good fight man
Gracias!
My father played the ship captain in this film...imagine my surprise finding this! :)
Seriously or are you just joking around.
I love your channel Pseudiom!! you make great content
Thank you. I enjoy making it!
awesome! im always excited for a new upload! Tbh this has gotta be one of my favourite channels :3
Maybe it's because I found this channel late at night, a bit ago, or maybe it's because you make videos on very obscure bits of mostly Americana, but I find your your videos to be almost ethereal and haunting. keep up the good work, can't wait for your next video. (Also You are such a weeb to even mention the Setsuma! :P)
Thanks! That's what I go for. The Satsuma are directly mentioned in the book, but I noticed them in the movie because i recognized the flag (crest?).
@@Pseudiom I figured it was in the book. Now to show my weeb level, it's called a Mon. Played strategy games then, I assume? Or just nerd?
A little of both. But I think I first learned it from Europa Universalis 4... Maybe. I can't remember.
The story of the three Kichi's actually sounds pretty interesting
I managed to wind up here from cash's wikipedia filmography list and I'm glad I did. Great video!
I'm a cash fanatic, I absolutely love japan and my favourite UA-camr is pseudiom. I've discovered the holy trinity!!!
I try my best! Glad you liked it!
Pseudiom and boy does it show! Keep up the amazing work!!!
This movie used to be on UA-cam in its entirety, but have it have been deleted. I have yet to find another complete version.
I was the uploader. It got removed due to copyright and the computer I had it on died. I'm going to rip the DVD again one day and reupload it to a site that it will probably not get taken down.
I wonder what happened to it's English distribution. I can imagine a bunch of evangelical youth group leaders buying up an English release DVD to to try and 'relate' to kids these days. Anime is Japanese after all.
This is still my biggest question. I wonder understand if it was just dropped. But the fact "Shiokari Pass" is listed on the WWP webpage, but not "Kairei", is just very bizarre. Since they seem to have been produced under the same agreement. I know the person who responded to my e-mail was just some office worker, but I really wonder if anyone at the Billy Graham Association remembers this exists.
@@Pseudiom it would be neat if the relevant people managing Johnny Cash's estate and keeping his legacy alive would work together with Billy Graham Association to release the film with digital remastering (the Japanese DVD release is a quite crude straight-up port from VHS looking at the quality). It would be a great service for Johnny Cash (this being one of his few film roles) and I suppose from Billy Graham Association's evangelical point of view it would be a nice film to have available.
I'm a big Johnny Cash fan so I'd definitely like it to be "officially" released in some form in America. Part of the reason I made this video. I know this movie is really only "competent" at best, but I think people would like to see it. Hopefully this video eventually reaches someone with some pull at either place.
I don't have any idea how i came to this video, but it is really incredible and facinating the history behind this movie!! You really made a great job in your searching, so thanks for all that effort. Greets from Chile jeje
Great video on a great, obscure topic as usual! Keep it up!
Much appreciated!
Things i had no idea existed but would have wanted to know about
Now you know!
The omnibus podcast caught my interest in this topic
Thank you for another great video, I applaud the time and money you invest in your research, you are an exemplar archivist.
Also please advertise your patreon a bit more, I almost missed it!
Hey man, I am so glad you uploaded this video because I have been trying to track this movie down online. Unfortunately, it looks like the source you linked to got copyrighted. Do you know another source or have a file of it that you saved?
I know that the acoustic guitar didn't exist the same way it was depicted in this film.
Because of that, the musical section must have been almost completely fiction.
Guitars have been around for a long time, even as there have been changes throughout history: here is a picture of the oldest surviving guitar in the USA which dates back to 1834 (fittingly enough the year that these Japanese castaways were rescued by McLoughlin) and was made by Christian Frederick Martin (the C.F. Martin himself whose company exists to this very day) www.oldest.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/C.F.-Martin.jpg - the one Johnny Cash uses in the scene (probably one of his own personal guitars) is obviously a newer guitar, but still. I haven't found anything to ascertain that the real-life McLoughlin would have played any musical instruments, but as a very wealthy, highly educated and cultured man he certainly would have had the means to support musical hobbies. With all that being said, the scene was evidently included so that Johnny Cash could put what he was famous for into use in the movie. Anyways - thanks for the great video - I remember watching this movie when it appeared on UA-cam and I found it quite fascinating.
@@NikoChristianWallenberg The dreadnought didn't exist. It was invented in the 1920s. Acoustic guitars before that made in America were often parlor guitars, spanish guitars, or european style guitars like Lutes.
He didn't claim that it did exist in those days - he acknowledged how there have been different guitar types with changes throughout history and how Johnny Cash was using a type of guitar that is not from the period - he was only pointing that there were guitars (like the oldest surviving example from the USA that he posted and which actually dates from the particular year), even if what Johnny Cash uses is not from the period (obviously they wouldn't go through the effort of procuring a period correct guitar) ^_^
Fort Vancouver was not British Columbia- There was a joint claim in effect since 1818 between the US and Britain which was not decided until 1846 with the Oregon Treaty.
Incredible
Wasn't Teruhiko Aoi, Joe Yabuki?
Yes! I couldn't find a place to mention that in the video though, but he was. So its another example of actual people did work on this movie.
@@Pseudiom Good commentary and research! I was one of the locals playing opposite JC in a couple of the clips you show. Singer/Actor 西郷 輝彦 (Saigo Teruhiko) played PM Sato in a J-movie of the same year ('83) and was also in The Last Samurai. I picked up a new DVD of Kairei in a shop in Ochanomizu a number of years ago which is still 'new' if anyone would be interested in seeing this.
he died in singapore
This movie actually doesn't look that bad. Especially compared to movies of the time.
the woman that was getting married is my aunt she's Lisa collins
I'm here because of askhistorians. :)
Or, if you are like me, you know about it because of your interest in the Three Kichis
Maybe the movie should have included Johnny Cash as a cute schoolgirl. Japanese love that garb...stuff.
Yeah in the West we only appreciate good traditional incest stories with step-sisters.
So this movie has now been taken down off UA-cams.
I am the original uploader, it got taken down due to copyright and my rip of the film is on a dead computer. I'm going to rip the DVD again and upload it to a site that will most likely not take it down.
@@mysouliswet oh please do. Please let me know when you do as I really would like to watch it.
My question is who in the world would make a copyright claim on a movie no one hardly knows exists.?
@@mysouliswet any word on the movie upload?
@@dimesonhiseyes9134 haven't had time at all to upload it anywhere, but i think I'll be able to upload it sometime in the next few weeks
So, this is anime.
Yes. Let's go with that.
Mak-ah not maka