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As a psychologist, there is almost nothing that frustrates me more than when someone says something like "I'm going to be a psychologist for a second" and then proceeds to spread misinformation, half-truths, or pseudo psychology. OR when someone makes positive references toward Dr. Phil. UGH.
Also, my job pays for my state psychology license renewal AND has paid for my license in a neighboring state. To keep my license I have to attend conferences, webinars, etc., for continuing education credits. I have a yearly continuing education fund that pays for me to go to conferences. My next one in April, they paid for my flights, conference fee, hotel, and daily per diem. This is standard in my profession. They do not know what they are talking about (although I think that is obvious).
I work in a medical clinic and on an inpatient medical unit. Everywhere I have ever worked as a student, intern, fellow, and attending has always had FREE COFFEE.
I get “ I took a psychology class in college so I know what I’m taking about” 🙄 imagine someone saying they pretty much are a doctor because they took anatomy 🤦🏽♀️
@@giadaamarini4724 so true.
Low key came to say this. As support staff for a hospital, we totally reimburse tests (among other things like hazard pay, etc.) and we do NOT withhold coffee.
I wanted to jump in and say a related field: Veterinary! I am a student in this field and veterinarians PLUS the veterinarian technicians are required to attend and take university courses throughout their entire profession every couple years (I think in New York it's like every 2-3 years?) to keep themselves updated with the ever-changing veterinarian field in terms of laws and ethics. It's required by law (and often by state as well) to take these courses to keep their licenses valid and also keep them up-to-date with any updated governmental or state law. Failure to do so often results in a revoking of license or something similar. They do get credit for it but I forgot if they're paid for attending these since they often coincide with work: an actual licensed vet can jump in and correct me.
👑👑 you dropped this 👌👌🙂
I love someone who tells us more on their field and has the education to provide us with it. Thank you for sharing this ! I didn't know lot this and such !
“Are we predators or villains? You can’t be both.”
Most serial killers had traumatic childhoods, just saying 🤷♀️
and most sexual predators were sexually abused as children/teens 🤦🏻♀️
I thought of Alison Mack and NXVIM-she was absolutely a victim of Keith Rainier, but she also did a lot of harm as a member of the cult and needs to be held accountable.
Omg, this was my thought as soon as she said that!
and these are the same types of girls who brush off criticism by saying “hurt people hurt people” soooo……they’re literally admitting that you CAN be a victim and a perpetrator 🤦♀️
You can be both
"Anti-mlmers are horrifically anti women" *proceeds to spout gender stereotypes about women*
Don't forget her calling them hos.
FOR REAL. I said out loud “oh we’re going with OLD SCHOOL misogyny”
It’s giving a shitty woman saying there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t support other women.
Horrifically!
Which is hilarious since we are againt MLM's preying on vulnerable women.
Jessie Lee thinks we hate her, and therefore, ourselves. She's just not that important to us. We dislike her predatory industry and her actions. We feel bad for her victims and want to help. I do quite well at my job that actually does good. Her life is so cringeworthy to me that envy is my last emotion.
Exactly!! She doesn’t realize she’s actually a joke.
@@GlossyHop a big joke! HUGE!!!!
Well said!!!!
I know right? She acts like we sit around and think about her. That woman doesn't cross my brain unless I'm watching a video. I can't. She's just so cringe.
Perfectly said!!!
Love how Jessie Lee pretends to know shit about psychology and then misses the most basic concept of cycles of abuse. It's basic knowledge that people who have been preyed upon and abused might repeat those behaviours without even realising and, WOW, SURPRISE, SURPRISE, might fall victim to similar tactics over and over again.
I grew up in an unhealthy family situation and this is just... such a basic concept. People in toxic situations are victimized and are victimizing each other, sometimes simultaneously. How can anyone not know that?
This!!! Exactly what I was thinking.
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Damn you went in! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank goodness for Wiggum Cam because I can’t with this broad. Now I can’t stop picturing the bartender from Shrek while watching lol
a life saver
The evil step sister I think was her character lmao
Edit: or the ugly step sister lol I don’t remember
@@mlsa1925 right lmao 🤣
Wiggum saved as all
Same! The wiggum cam definitely helped!
My mom passed away a few years ago.... All of her debt my dad wasn't a cosigner for we sent a death certificate and they scrubbed it away. It is such a scar tactic to tell people debt will chase your family
As an RN it is friggin despicable to think an MLM changes more lives than we do as well as the impact we have on human life. Couple that with the under handed put downs and shaming us for our career paths. We are recruited and given thousands of dollars up front and monetarily compensated for our time, including while on our phones, and accrue vacation time, insurance and benefits, etc. (Wage arguments are a different argument but that is for another day) There is a reason y’all are begging us to sling your low quality products. Stay in your lane huns, nurses are like the mob and you will need us before we need you. (Rant over)
have you ever worked a 12 hour shift with someone then they hit their waitress job...smh.
JL answered her own question in a split second when she said Anti MLMers don’t make videos about the MLM men, the very next words out of her mouth was 76% of MLM are women.
Isabella Lanter reviewed this on her channel and quickly and thoroughly proved this to not be true.
Some people aren't paid a living wage and that is horrible. But let's not pretend like that makes MLM a better option or even a good one.
Yeah, because atleast in those jobs you have a guaranteed wage.
@@ussenate3139 Exactly
My mom was a nurse for decades and never had a second job. She lived within her means and my sister and I were well taken care of. My son is a year away from graduating college to be an elementary school teacher. He’s very lucky to be able to use my husband’s GI Bill and be debt free. He wants to be a teacher because he loves it.
Bravo to you all!
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When JL says there’s nothing wrong with a single mom making an extra “$50” to go to Target, I bet to differ. If the single mom in her example has to work hours and hours to earn that $50 and ultimately makes below minimum wage doing it, that’s not okay.
This is a really good point! Some side jobs are like that though..like door dash and post mates (I’ve done both). They suck more money from you and barely profit. So yeah, not good money makers!
Credible estimates I've seen put MLM earnings at 70¢ an hour. And that's before expenses. I don't understand why anyone would pay to work. The whole point of working is to end up with more money, not less.
A lot of us do call out the scamming of college students. There are large institutions making huge amounts of money off college students including the schools themselves. The difference is we NEED doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. We do NOT need MLMs.
"Everyone was once a stranger" is literally one of the top 5 lines creeps use when you tell them you're not interested in them/getting to know them.
Just had to point that out, it bothered me SO much.
THIS. i rejected a guy because i'm moving across the state (and i don't like him). and he said "you never know where it goes until you try lol."
Sir. No.
@@AH-ph3cb Exactly! I've also never been burned alive, but I don't think I need to experience to know I wouldn't recommend it
😂😂 true but hilarious
Reminds me of in _IT_ where Georgie says he isn't supposed to talk to strangers so Pennywise goes, "Oh, well I'm Pennywise. now we're not strangers anymore."
SO true!!!
Every time she says, "Women are natural BLANK" I cringe so hard. WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE, BOSSLEE???
I'm definitely not a natural gatherer, talker, seller...whatever she said. A lot of those blanket statements have, in the past, made me very insecure until I really accepted that I don't have to be those things to be a woman.
MLMs are very obviously designed for a specific type of person-one who adheres to a traditional gender binary and stereotypical gender roles and norms. It’s majorly harmful for all genders and gender non-conforming people!
NONE of the reasons why I consume anti mlm information and advocate for these companies to not exist is because I’m jealous of them or I want to be like them or dislike myself- and I can say that with confidence. It’s like with any social justice problem that I care about- it comes down to whether it’s fair and ethical or not.
yup!
Also Chelsea, it’s truly lovely that you’re putting in more effort in showing more compassion. Not that I feel you weren’t compassionate before, but just the fact that you’re putting it out there that you’re putting in an effort to show it on screen more is really heartwarming!
I appreciate that ♥️
What she is saying makes no sense and it is hurting my brain. If someone is kidnapped, they are the victim. If that person then goes out later in life and kidnaps someone, they are the predator. BOTH things are possible.
The fact that she doesn't understand how victims can also become perpetrators is completely beyond me....
Cognitive dissonance ftw
if i had a dollar for every time she told the “put it in neutral” story, I could afford to buy out & shut down every MLM company. we get it. you were a peasant like us once upon a time & now you’re the greatest scamming scammer in all the land.
If Jesse Lee is so confident in what she does then why won’t she talk to you in an interview format? If she’s so confident and sure of herself, talking to you seems to me to be a perfect way to debunk what anti-MLM’ers say…. right?
Yes, but instead she participated in a mock debate with other MLMers.
I'm a nurse, and while we're still grossly underpaid, we make decent money, and every nurse I know who works more than 1 job does so willingly for the extra money, not because they can't make ends meet. Also, with the nursing shortage there are always shifts to pick up so it's not necessary to have a second job. But okay, Boss Lee 😂
"We're not preying on anyone."
JL: "cough cough...I need to go to the ER, found a whole new pool to recruit from." Or whatever the fuck she said.
There’s no way that Jessie lee never heard of the psychology of victim to perpetrator. Most people have heard of Stockholm Syndrome or sexual abusers having been sexually abused in their childhood.
Knowing it isn't understanding it to be fair, understanding something exists doesn't mean we can really comprehend why it exists, this is my take on it, having studied psychology and being intrested in the human mind, its just crazy how people can be trained into a specific way, even though they could grow to know better, because they're treated or trained a way, they become that way. Crazy really.
Their businesses are "exploding" yet here they are defending what they do, in the worst way
29:34 Driving downhill in neutral is THE definition of Penny Wise, Pound Foolish. (Shocker 😯😂) Not only is it VERY dangerous, but the "gas savings" is nominal, AT BEST. (In most cases, there is NO increase in fuel efficiency. And certainly never enough to justify the extreme wear and tear to your transmission). One simple Google search, and this financial genius would have figured that out.
Right! Was searching for this comment! If you cant afford the gas for your car, then you certainly can't afford to repair or replace it 🤦🏾♀️
Driving downhill in neutral doesn't do anything to the transmission, wtf did that idiocy come from. There is zero gas savings from doing so however, it is also (marginally) unsafe, you should always be in gear unless you're stopped for more than a few seconds. If you REALLY want to save some gas, you leave the car in gear, but take your foot off the gas, and let the wheels drive the engine. This way, there is no combustion happening at all, and you get infinity mileage. When you're in neutral, you're essentially idling.
First off, let me start by saying, I appreciate the anti MLM movement for giving people the facts. As someone who was extremely brainwashed for over 5 years, I wish I had someone who was honest with me as opposed to selling me the business and lifestyle. I adore you Chelsea and so many of the anti MLM creators who, as I said, bring FACTS to the discussion. And you are completely within your right to have a different opinion and share the side that they will not talk about without being a so-called hater. So much manipulation! Second, I’m going to address Miss Colleen lie for lie since she feels the need to talk about something she has no idea about. We are NOT the same Colleen, and to think that you should be characterized the same as a nurse or a teacher is DISGUSTING!!!!
• So, no we do not get pain nothing…. are we underpaid, yes many are but we are certainly not paid nothing!
• Also, to get a degree as a nurse it does not cost $100,000 and I paid off my debt. Now to get my master’s as a nurse practitioner, yes, I did pay close to that, BUT I am GUARANTEED the money to pay it back. Also, the amount of money I’m making will allow me to pay off the loan. Do I think it is ridiculous and we should be in so much debt, of course not but that is in no way a comparison to network marketing.
• I’m sure there are nurses who have second jobs but I don’t and no-one I know does. The medical field is in desperate need of people so that is not common.
• I’ve paid less in scrubs (and I’m talking Figs) than what I had to pay in my MLM for products. You can say it was my choice but leaders like these two say quite frequently, “you have to be a product of the product”.
• Yes, I like my coffee and yes some of us drink a lot more than others but we do not live on “uppers” legal or otherwise. How much money do we spend on coffee Jesse?? Seriously, you are reaching girl!
• Yes, I also bought my stethoscope. Not all stethoscopes are $100. My first one was $20 off amazon and it worked great. When you start making more money, yes, you can invest in a better quality one. COLLEEN???!!!!! NOT RELATIVE!!!!!
• Licensing renewal for a nurse practitioner doesn’t even cost $600. WHAT the actual F are you talking about!! My license renewal, insurance, clothes, and continuing education credits do not even come close to what I paid for conference, the MLM gear, monthly products, and every other thing they “encourage” (because they basically tell you you’re not working your business if you don’t) you to buy in network marketing.
This is where getting your facts before you speak on something you know nothing about can save you from looking like a complete jack ass. The condescending attitudes and the idea that your MLM scam is ANYTHING compared to the hardworking people who save lives every day and keep our kids safe and educated have any correlation just shows how brainwashed and gross you are! I am proud to be a nurse and I will never condone the person I became when I was in an MLM. You ladies have no argument hear with teachers or nurses except for the fact that more money should be spent on both careers. This was one of the most disgusting pieces of internet garbage. Both of you should be ashamed.
She said, "I was in a... a..." and I shouted "BASEMENT!" I think I watch too much bosslee with Chelsea LOL!
AND IT WAS HER MOMS HOUSE! (I also watch too much)
😂😂😂
Jessie can’t send her legal letters without people like me who invested in a legal education but she’s going to generalize pursuing education and shit on it… makes sense
bruhhh exactly
I am a licensed social worker. Hearing them compare getting a professional license to MLM fees is insane. I am proud to pay for renewal of my license as it protects the public from terrible and unethical social workers. So the people I work with could make a complaint about me if they needed to. It’s NOT THE SAME. 😠
Speaking as someone who has had 10 plus surgeries, numerous ER visits AND worked in the medical field over 20 years, if you think I'm going to let an unlicensed nurse start an IV on me it's a hard no! Because a licensed nurse will stick me no less than 3 times if they feel the need. Jessica reminds me of my 1st husband, they are loud mouthed and constantly repeats themselves. I automatically shut them out and find my happy place. I couldn't tell you a word that was said 🙉
1. I am a teacher and absolutely didn’t pay $100K on college
2. There is definitely loan forgiveness, I literally JUST filled out my loan forgiveness application and uploaded it to my loan servicer website.
3. JL obviously does not suck at leadership, she has amazing leadership skills but chooses to not use them for good
I’m one of those people who googled her because of your - and I agree with you - she’s a manipulative liar.
The more I watch this woman, the more she reminds me of my father - who is a narcissist. Twists everything to suit him and his agenda and ignores everything else.
If I never hear the word "basement" again, it'll be too soon.
I’m so happy for many reasons, but mains are 1, no filter Chelsea is back. 2, Wiggum cam is back. And 3, I didn’t expect a cheeky weekend upload. YAAAAAY. Thank you girlllllll 🧡✨
Yea no nurse here! and I do not need a second job by any means. Got my nursing degree from a community college and left with barely any debt ….. Jesselee needs to stop talking about things she has no experience with
People like JL are so far down their own rabbit hole that they’ve completely lost touch with the real world. I’m sure at this point they believe their lies wholeheartedly.
Also, JL saying “I work harder than anyone” is ballsy, especially in this day and age. Like how narcissistic can you get??
JL: If you swipe a credit card for a price you can’t afford, YOU made that choice and you need to take responsibility.
ALSO JL: You “can’t afford” to join this business? Then you can’t afford NOT to join! Just take out a credit card!
JL: Who says success in MLMs has to be monetary?!
ALSO JL: We all know that if you make under $6 million a year, you’re not making enough money.
CC I can't get enough of your channel lately. Binge watching your content has filled my days and nights lately. I'm so glad I found my way to you because you are absolutely amazing. Wiggum makes my heart swoon. You're both BEAUTIFUL ANGELS
Glad you enjoy it!
'haters are confused fans' they're just being willfully ignorant to discount any criticism against her. She seems skilled at lying to herself, though
Also a lot of the “haters” were her fans and were hurt by her. She’s so close to getting it, yet so far.
Omg 😂 I thought this said "taters" ....... I was like what?!
I've said this on other channels' reactions to this video: $300 extra a month is NOT "life-changing!" It might take the edge off, but it would hardly change someone's life. And, I would certainly question how much time and effort had to go into making that extra 300. Gimme a break.
When I buy stuff for my little students with my own money, I get to see them use what I bought. Win/win. If you're forced to purchase monthly products from your MLM that you don't need, only your upline benefits. Should I have to buy school supplies? No, but I'm lucky to be in a district that adequately compensates us. Teachers in low-paying districts are better off doing Uber Eats gigs or the like, rather than joining an MLM.
Yup yup! Title I school, I doordash on the holidays and can make hundreds in a weekend if my own children are with their dad.
JL: don’t look at me, don’t look at my success, Im an anomaly…
Also JL: I just wanna show them what’s possible!
🤦🏽♀️what?
(Also, straight up CACKLED when you pet your eyebrows 🤣)
Hold on. Shut the tour bus door! It was her mother???? Ok. She’s completely lost her credibility not including that truth here. Manipulation 101
Dude. I was a server for 7 years. Never once did I have to purchase any part of my uniform. It was provided. If I had worked in the kitchen and the non-slip shoes were required….the company provided those because they were part of the uniform. Clearly, she worked for a shitty company….or she’s lying (probably that). Lol
7:46 "They just hate themselves?"
No, we hate the unethical business practices the company you work for and all MLMs take to make money.
I love me.
As a licensed insurance agent, my company pays for my insurance license renewal (every 2 years) and the cost of the continuing education courses needed, plus I take the continuing education courses on paid company time. They literally have NO IDEA about these things
I was a server in college and after. Was always provided an apron, never had to spend money to wait tables.
I worked a Pizza Hut for a few months in college and we were provided a shirt and wore jeans. I didn’t buy nonslip shoes, but I did buy a notebook that cost a whopping dollar because it was small enough to hold and put in my apron pocket
If she's so against formal education I guess she doesn't wanna drive her fancy cars, have lights or indoor plumbing, have access to medicine. Since much of that is the result of higher education. (and the even more elitist formal education of the past)
Love this point. It KILLS me how they look down on people paying for a real education. Not some "Empire U" class.
As a current Marylander (Born Floridian!), I humbly apologize on behalf of our state for...this...all of this...
SO. Jessie Lee says that there are more men at the top of MLMs because they recruit more. shouldn’t that be a sign that, in order to do well, you have to recruit?
I have seen different people cover this call, and when they start talking about how it doesn't make "logical sense" how they have been called both victim and predator.. It makes me want to scream! Most predators were victims at one point. For example, a Large amount of child predators were victimized when they were a child themselves. And its tragic they were a victim, but it doesn't absolve them of their own crimes! And so yes... it does make logical sense and is seen across many different social situations
Proud of you, Chelsea! Always taking accountability and changing - it's hard work. I see you and appreciate it! This was GREAT content 💗
I have never not once ever been suggested a Boss Lee video. I watch a lot of anti mlm content including all your deep dives about her and I didn’t even know she was on yt.
Secondly the Wiggum cam helped significantly! Such a good boy who’s chin I want to scritch 🥰
What you said at the end hit me. I watch these videos for fun and I have to say I almost started crying because I wasn't expecting anyone to say that and I needed to hear it, thanks
LIV!!! 🤍🤍🤍 you got this bud🤍🤍
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worked in food - shoes were $15-$20. as a county officer boots were $50-$80 had a $75 boot voucher uniform provided, uniform cleaning service provided at no cost, only uniform related cost was badges shirts for $10 if you lost or damaged your original 2. clearly i was part of a pyramid scheme according to these people. 😭
Omg I was hoping you'd cover this! These two are a literal match made in hell... JL so shocked that nurses buy their own stethoscopes while she's selling tickets for a bullshit training at an astronomical price lol okay.
Right?!? It's something like 5000.00 for listening to her bull crap!!!!!
I was a server and had to buy my own apron, and no one cared about non-slip shoes there or really anything else. At my first job at a fast-food restaurant, I DID have to buy non-slip shoes, the uniform, and pants (although the pants were bought outside of the company and cheap AF because WHO sends a lot of money on pants when they're going to get destroyed at work).
Jessica (to use Julie Jo's reference) and Collie did NOT "debunk" anything. Yet they claimed they did. Is it shared narcissism between these two? Delusion? Ignorance? Combination of those? My eyes may roll out of my head before this video is over!
as a former PR consultant & leader, i went to Maryland once for a cult meet, i mean retreat. we were NOT allowed to say her name.
also, because I’m chatting with myself during this, i’ve been out for 5+ years & repented for my kool aid days. i apologized to anyone who had been on my team & paid back their starter kits 😭
I used to work in a tasting room at a winery. The moment I signed my employment papers they gave me two shirts with the company's name on it (not a required uniform but at that point jeans and a nice tee were what we all wore most day shifts) and a four pack of their best selling wine so I could start trying them out for myself.
All my training was paid at a normal, above minimum wage rate. We were invited to come in for free tastings throughout the week to familiarize ourselves with the wines AND when we released a new blend or vintage? We'd get a bottle to take home, and sat down with a 2 oz tasting glass with the owners to talk about the details of that new release.
Right!!! So MLM Huns saying you have to buy the product and try it in order to sell it: why aren’t y’all providing the samples for your down line???
I watched Erin and Julie Jo’s live on this last night, and I was just very skeeved out by the generalizations and blanket statements Jessie Lee and Colleen both kept making. Not only about the anti MLM community, but about humans in general.
I will just never understand why these people can’t understand it is NOT NORMAL to feel like you need to defend your career choice this much.
I love watching videos for on MLM and Commercial Cult mentality while working on my actual small business. I make crochet stuffed animals and toys, jewelry, charms, etc because I have a passion for it. I still work a part time job and money is still tight sometimes. That just comes with the market. People like Jessie Lee like to, for lack of a better term, fetishize the concept of owning a business and co-opt it to suit her needs. Yes, being a business owner is hard work and comes with a lot of responsibilities. But if she really wanted to "work for herself", she would be the boss. Not the CEO of ItWorks. Every cent I pour into my businesses will, hopefully, come back to me. It won't go up to an upline. That is the difference between owning a business and shilling a product. My money is at least still mine. Thank you for another amazing video CC. I now need to rewatch the Jessie documentary for the fifth time XD
I'm not a nurse but I'm an occupational therapist who has to pay for her professional license - we don't LOVE paying registration fees, but paying gets you as part of the college and they provide a lot of things that support your profession and it ensures that your clients are protected. We also pay for courses and professional development to become better therapists and connect with other therapists etc. It's wild to me that they don't understand that because they also pay yearly registrations to be part of a company but they aren't guaranteed pay and when they pay for conventions and stuff they just tell them the same information over and over...
I’m a certified biller and coder and we have to re-certify every 2 years , and I think it’s a great think because it makes us refresh our knowledge,ect.
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I’m boss lee fist thing in the morning? I feel for you girl. Also I’m super sick right now and this is the pick me up I needed. Wiggum cam instantly made me feel better.
As someone that really likes change, I hate when people make mistaken, broad statements like "Well you're a human, so you hate change."
No girl, that's just YOU.
This Wiggum cam is the best. Instead of looking at JL I just look at precious Wiggum doing the naps. He's so wholesome and cute
JL? That laugh? Anyone else getting No sleep for 100 hours, way way too many ketones, and needs a mummy very badly vibes?
Thank you for including the Wiggum cam during her talk time. Omg. I nominate permanently having Wiggum on screen - cam or even just a picture, it's all great - during her features. Seeing his little wiggles around to get comfy is just the best thing ever!
I was listening to this video like a podcast while driving and OMG BOSSLEE'S VOICE IS UNBEARABLE!!!
For someone who does a lot of public speaking and obviously loves to hear herself talk, you'd think she'd try to modulate her voice into something less like a harbor seal.
And is that real?? What she's taking about with the wigs and holocaust haircuts?? It's that even real or is she low-key making fun of her friends hair and saying it's their detractors saying it?
JL and NSSG are the epitome of that David Rose quote, "I've never heard someone say so many wrong things, one after another."
Interesting how when they try and “debunk” anti-MLM stuff they say, “well success is different to everyone, and it doesn’t matter if not everyone can reach the top because most people just want a extra couple hundred dollars a month”. But they don’t say or think that in the actual MLM, they pressure their downline to aim for the top and be a millionaire because it makes the upline’s more MONEY. They are pretending to be understanding and that they don’t pressure people to aim for the top or be “successful” in this video but its a different story in real life. The narrative is constantly changing with these people.
… she looks at herself a lot, and you know that she’s not looking at the other woman but herself because she’ll fix or touch her hair/makeup when she does it. And it’s not like a self-conscious habit… the way she looks at herself is like someone swooning or falling in love and it’s honestly unsettling. It’s not confidence, it’s like she’s in total infatuation with herself.
She scares me, she gives me anxiety, and most definitely is staring at herself, very creepy.
She’s telling on herself. Yes, if she was really in the terrible situation that she says she was when she joined, then she was victimized by the business. “Success” in MLMs is built off the backs of the people you recruit who are going to lose money. So, claiming she had any measure of “success” in an MLM thereby means she also preyed on people in vulnerable situations. Even if she had only recruited one person, she victimized that person.
Idk about how “Dr Phil” or “Dr Lee” it is of her to say but I certainly feel like it’s Dr Narcissistic of her to think… feel… and ultimately say. Ew.
As an insurance agent, I just want to say most legit companies will pay for training, license renewals and your continuing education. I have sunk exactly $0 into my career and since last year I have literally tripled my income and moved up a tax bracket.
The way her basement story changes and has loophole, is hilarious.
God forbid I go into debt so I can become a lawyer..... it’s almost like she needs lawyers like to send cease and desists to everyone. Yikes
i’m feeling horrible today and the wiggum cam is making me so happy 💗
also i’ve watched and re-watched every video of yours hundreds of times, i look up to you a lot now, you’re an amazing person (from what i’ve seen in your videos/lives)
Soooo doesn’t Coleen have a master’s degree in mental health counselling? Pretty sure I’ve seen that on Isabella’s channel. That woman knows exactly how victims turn into predators. 🤬😡
I feel like Jessie Lee is an example of how a physically beautiful person can become less appealing if they have a bad personality or are culty. It's a shame.
I’ve been working restaurants for over 6 years and I’ve only ever had to pay for my nonslip shoes. Any other uniform requirement (shirt, apron, hat, etc) has been given to me by every company I’ve worked for unless the dress code included common wardrobe items. Even then, nearly every place has said if you have trouble getting access to shoes let us know and we can help.
When I am this early for a Chelsea video you know its a good sign for your day 😍 Love ya Chelsea
I was a waitress in college, I was given an apron, check book and given the paper for inside the book. At the 2nd restaurant I worked at I had to buy a wine key. I was reimbursed for my non slick shoes for the 1st job, also I worked for a
more reputable restaurants so they paid more an hour and definitely made sure we walked out with at least minimum wage
I love the fact that until sweet baby Wiggum stretches the cam just looks like a picture because he is so peaceful 😂
But when you go into student loan debt, you're not recruiting everyone with a pulse to go into student loan debt with you.
I worked at McDonalds and Starbucks, I didn't even have to buy special nonslip shoes, I just wore a pair of black combat style boots I already had. I didn't have to pay for a shirt, apron or a hat either. It cost me nothing to start. I also paid off my student loans early thanks to my 9-5. To her point that your family inherits your student loan debt if you pass away. Federal student loans are discharged upon death, so no your family won't inherit those. Only private student loans belong to your estate the same as your mortgage.
You can be a predator and victim. An example an abused woman could then abuse her children, she's abused and an abuser because of her circumstances and if she wasn't abused she probably wouldn't then abuse her kids. Saying someone can't be both, I could give a million examples.... These woman are money driven fake religious monsters
I watched Isabella’s videos on this. They’re legit crazy. They love to be like “well they said this” but never do they have any proof that it happened. Where as you guys have PROOF to back up everything you say because you have videos of them saying it!
Sorry to keep posting, but at the end she says she doesn't watch the anti-MLM videos! So, she's always telling us to educate ourselves and she's basing her whole rant on thumbnails! I can't...
I really appreciate you putting up the Wiggum cam because he's the darn cutest thing ever but also because i watched other similar creators watch this livestream :DDDD
Only JLW could take an interview/collab and turn it into an opportunity call 😂 you could tell in Isabella’s video it looked like Colleen so greatly regretted doing this 😂😂 such a typical JLW move to hijack an interview
Yes!!!! I feel like Colleen was feeling like she’s more “classy” than Jessie Lee. And wasn’t Jessie Lee supposed to interview Colleen? She barely let her get a word in! 😹😹😹
I just recently discovered your channel so I'm binge watching :) This comment is way after you posted the video but I just wanted to say Wiggum is the cutest in this video! I just love how he's sleeping upside down 🥰
Thanks for wiggum cam Chelsea. His cuteness overpowers the frustration i feel when i hear jl talking bs...
Your videos make me so happy!!! So informational and educated. Thank you
I worked in retail and I did not have to buy my apron.
Also I work from home now (actual wfh) and my employer sent me a laptop, headphones, mouse and paid for my training.
They are just trying to “debunk” the truth and they sound stupid.
You can see the effect this movement is having on the mlm industry. It's actually crazy to see the top leaders of these companies so obsessed with anti-mlm lately! They can't ignore it anymore. And they talk themselves in circles and make no sense defending it lol.