I love presup apologetics! It is simultaneously ridiculous, arrogant, dismissive, and revealing of a Christians character. Presup is the best thing to happen to atheism since circumcision or rock hard pews. Presup exists solely to cater to apologists who can't be bothered to learn more than two pages of text. It is such a poor apologetic, that it relies upon.....actually, does anyone want to have their presup nonsense stepped on like New York snow? Answer 3 questions without questioning my worldview, I dare you, double dog dare you.....any takers?
I will correct you again. If one is not aware, one does not know. Asserting people know when they do not is a shameful and dishonest tactic. Stick to video games.
Christian influences......so do atheists borrow from these religions as well? Does that mean we are all other religions as well as the Christians? Or do we all share subjective interpretations that overlap? of course we are influenced by the world we live in; I am not convinced how that makes us something we are not though. Life seems subjective not objective. 1.Judaism: Monotheism: The belief in one God is a fundamental tenet of Christianity, directly inherited from Judaism. The concept of a covenant between God and humanity, the Messiah, and many scriptural references (Old Testament/Hebrew Bible) are shared. Rituals and Festivals: Some Christian practices have roots in Jewish festivals; for example, the Last Supper is linked to the Passover Seder. 2.Greco-Roman Religions: Philosophical Concepts: Early Christian theology was influenced by Greek philosophy, particularly Platonism, which shaped ideas about the nature of God, the soul, and the afterlife. Mythological Elements: Some narratives or symbolism in Christian iconography can parallel Greek and Roman myths, like the virgin birth concept which has parallels in various mythologies. 3.Mithraism: Ritual Practices: The celebration of the birth of Mithras on December 25 might have influenced the date chosen for Christmas. Moral and Ethical Codes: Some ethical teachings have parallels, like the emphasis on righteousness and the battle between good and evil. 4.Egyptian Religion: Iconography: The portrayal of the Holy Family (Mary, Joseph, and Jesus) might echo the Egyptian iconography of Isis, Osiris, and Horus, where Isis is often depicted with her child Horus. Concepts of Afterlife: Egyptian ideas of judgment after death and eternal life influenced Christian eschatology. 5.Zoroastrianism: Dualism: The concept of a cosmic struggle between good (Ahura Mazda) and evil (Angra Mainyu) could have influenced Christian notions of Satan and the battle between good and evil. Messianism: The idea of a savior or a chosen one who would restore righteousness might have parallels in the Christian Messiah. 6.Hellenistic Mystery Religions: Sacraments: The Christian sacraments, particularly baptism and the Eucharist, show similarities with rituals in mystery religions like those of Eleusis, where initiates underwent symbolic death and rebirth. 7.Canaanite Religions: Mythological Motifs: Some scholars suggest that elements like the divine council in Canaanite mythology might have been adapted into Christian theology regarding angels or divine beings around God.
Does it make you feel special to realize that you were lucky enough to be born into a cultural that just happens to worship the one true god. What a tragedy it would have been had you been born in Iran, India, or Indonesia.
@GTSN38 Yes, of course there are, just as there are Muslims, Sikhs, and Hindus in the US, but your comment tells you couldn't have misunderstood my point more completely if you tried. Because if you're a Christian, it's probably due to you having been born into a majority Christian culture. And if your claim about god being everywhere were valid, there would be one religion, not thousands insisting they are correct while all others are wrong. Sorry, but your god is a cultural artifact, just like all other gods.
Christian influences......so do atheists borrow from these religions as well? Does that mean we are all other religions as well as the Christians? Or do we all share subjective interpretations that overlap? of course we are influenced by the world we live in; I am not convinced how that makes us something we are not though. Life seems subjective not objective. 1.Judaism: Monotheism: The belief in one God is a fundamental tenet of Christianity, directly inherited from Judaism. The concept of a covenant between God and humanity, the Messiah, and many scriptural references (Old Testament/Hebrew Bible) are shared. Rituals and Festivals: Some Christian practices have roots in Jewish festivals; for example, the Last Supper is linked to the Passover Seder. 2.Greco-Roman Religions: Philosophical Concepts: Early Christian theology was influenced by Greek philosophy, particularly Platonism, which shaped ideas about the nature of God, the soul, and the afterlife. Mythological Elements: Some narratives or symbolism in Christian iconography can parallel Greek and Roman myths, like the virgin birth concept which has parallels in various mythologies. 3.Mithraism: Ritual Practices: The celebration of the birth of Mithras on December 25 might have influenced the date chosen for Christmas. Moral and Ethical Codes: Some ethical teachings have parallels, like the emphasis on righteousness and the battle between good and evil. 4.Egyptian Religion: Iconography: The portrayal of the Holy Family (Mary, Joseph, and Jesus) might echo the Egyptian iconography of Isis, Osiris, and Horus, where Isis is often depicted with her child Horus. Concepts of Afterlife: Egyptian ideas of judgment after death and eternal life influenced Christian eschatology. 5.Zoroastrianism: Dualism: The concept of a cosmic struggle between good (Ahura Mazda) and evil (Angra Mainyu) could have influenced Christian notions of Satan and the battle between good and evil. Messianism: The idea of a savior or a chosen one who would restore righteousness might have parallels in the Christian Messiah. 6.Hellenistic Mystery Religions: Sacraments: The Christian sacraments, particularly baptism and the Eucharist, show similarities with rituals in mystery religions like those of Eleusis, where initiates underwent symbolic death and rebirth. 7.Canaanite Religions: Mythological Motifs: Some scholars suggest that elements like the divine council in Canaanite mythology might have been adapted into Christian theology regarding angels or divine beings around God.
@@GTSN38 You're missing the point the so hard, I feel the pain; most people follow, and defend, the religion of their culture, but believers of every religion think they are something special because of what they believe. Humans have created thousands of gods; yours is no different. Can you demonstrate that your god is the true god?
I love presup apologetics! It is simultaneously ridiculous, arrogant, dismissive, and revealing of a Christians character.
Presup is the best thing to happen to atheism since circumcision or rock hard pews. Presup exists solely to cater to apologists who can't be bothered to learn more than two pages of text. It is such a poor apologetic, that it relies upon.....actually, does anyone want to have their presup nonsense stepped on like New York snow? Answer 3 questions without questioning my worldview, I dare you, double dog dare you.....any takers?
I will correct you again. If one is not aware, one does not know. Asserting people know when they do not is a shameful and dishonest tactic. Stick to video games.
Christian influences......so do atheists borrow from these religions as well? Does that mean we are all other religions as well as the Christians? Or do we all share subjective interpretations that overlap? of course we are influenced by the world we live in; I am not convinced how that makes us something we are not though. Life seems subjective not objective.
1.Judaism:
Monotheism: The belief in one God is a fundamental tenet of Christianity, directly inherited from Judaism. The concept of a covenant between God and humanity, the Messiah, and many scriptural references (Old Testament/Hebrew Bible) are shared.
Rituals and Festivals: Some Christian practices have roots in Jewish festivals; for example, the Last Supper is linked to the Passover Seder.
2.Greco-Roman Religions:
Philosophical Concepts: Early Christian theology was influenced by Greek philosophy, particularly Platonism, which shaped ideas about the nature of God, the soul, and the afterlife.
Mythological Elements: Some narratives or symbolism in Christian iconography can parallel Greek and Roman myths, like the virgin birth concept which has parallels in various mythologies.
3.Mithraism:
Ritual Practices: The celebration of the birth of Mithras on December 25 might have influenced the date chosen for Christmas.
Moral and Ethical Codes: Some ethical teachings have parallels, like the emphasis on righteousness and the battle between good and evil.
4.Egyptian Religion:
Iconography: The portrayal of the Holy Family (Mary, Joseph, and Jesus) might echo the Egyptian iconography of Isis, Osiris, and Horus, where Isis is often depicted with her child Horus.
Concepts of Afterlife: Egyptian ideas of judgment after death and eternal life influenced Christian eschatology.
5.Zoroastrianism:
Dualism: The concept of a cosmic struggle between good (Ahura Mazda) and evil (Angra Mainyu) could have influenced Christian notions of Satan and the battle between good and evil.
Messianism: The idea of a savior or a chosen one who would restore righteousness might have parallels in the Christian Messiah.
6.Hellenistic Mystery Religions:
Sacraments: The Christian sacraments, particularly baptism and the Eucharist, show similarities with rituals in mystery religions like those of Eleusis, where initiates underwent symbolic death and rebirth.
7.Canaanite Religions:
Mythological Motifs: Some scholars suggest that elements like the divine council in Canaanite mythology might have been adapted into Christian theology regarding angels or divine beings around God.
Get rid of the drunk guy.
Does it make you feel special to realize that you were lucky enough to be born into a cultural that just happens to worship the one true god. What a tragedy it would have been had you been born in Iran, India, or Indonesia.
There's Christians in iran, India, and Indonesia. A true God wouldn't need any other god's to help him out. A true God is God of everything.
@GTSN38 Yes, of course there are, just as there are Muslims, Sikhs, and Hindus in the US, but your comment tells you couldn't have misunderstood my point more completely if you tried. Because if you're a Christian, it's probably due to you having been born into a majority Christian culture.
And if your claim about god being everywhere were valid, there would be one religion, not thousands insisting they are correct while all others are wrong.
Sorry, but your god is a cultural artifact, just like all other gods.
Christian influences......so do atheists borrow from these religions as well? Does that mean we are all other religions as well as the Christians? Or do we all share subjective interpretations that overlap? of course we are influenced by the world we live in; I am not convinced how that makes us something we are not though. Life seems subjective not objective.
1.Judaism:
Monotheism: The belief in one God is a fundamental tenet of Christianity, directly inherited from Judaism. The concept of a covenant between God and humanity, the Messiah, and many scriptural references (Old Testament/Hebrew Bible) are shared.
Rituals and Festivals: Some Christian practices have roots in Jewish festivals; for example, the Last Supper is linked to the Passover Seder.
2.Greco-Roman Religions:
Philosophical Concepts: Early Christian theology was influenced by Greek philosophy, particularly Platonism, which shaped ideas about the nature of God, the soul, and the afterlife.
Mythological Elements: Some narratives or symbolism in Christian iconography can parallel Greek and Roman myths, like the virgin birth concept which has parallels in various mythologies.
3.Mithraism:
Ritual Practices: The celebration of the birth of Mithras on December 25 might have influenced the date chosen for Christmas.
Moral and Ethical Codes: Some ethical teachings have parallels, like the emphasis on righteousness and the battle between good and evil.
4.Egyptian Religion:
Iconography: The portrayal of the Holy Family (Mary, Joseph, and Jesus) might echo the Egyptian iconography of Isis, Osiris, and Horus, where Isis is often depicted with her child Horus.
Concepts of Afterlife: Egyptian ideas of judgment after death and eternal life influenced Christian eschatology.
5.Zoroastrianism:
Dualism: The concept of a cosmic struggle between good (Ahura Mazda) and evil (Angra Mainyu) could have influenced Christian notions of Satan and the battle between good and evil.
Messianism: The idea of a savior or a chosen one who would restore righteousness might have parallels in the Christian Messiah.
6.Hellenistic Mystery Religions:
Sacraments: The Christian sacraments, particularly baptism and the Eucharist, show similarities with rituals in mystery religions like those of Eleusis, where initiates underwent symbolic death and rebirth.
7.Canaanite Religions:
Mythological Motifs: Some scholars suggest that elements like the divine council in Canaanite mythology might have been adapted into Christian theology regarding angels or divine beings around God.
@@GTSN38 You're missing the point the so hard, I feel the pain; most people follow, and defend, the religion of their culture, but believers of every religion think they are something special because of what they believe. Humans have created thousands of gods; yours is no different. Can you demonstrate that your god is the true god?
The abrhamic god is of greek origin. Greek first.
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