Always remember: great art direction trumps realistic graphics every time. Realistic graphics will, inevitable, age poorly... but great art direction is forever.
Why show a concept video from years ago ? Just show the game. It's such a weird choice. It's not like it's years away. Max justifying this is hilarious.
If they actually animate blocking and just make it a standard animation across characters, thatll take fighting games to another level visually. Itd look so visually captivating
That background though, probably the best Fighting Game background since the peak of Capcom and SNK's pixel art era. The clutter of the telephone lines and the rusty metal rooftops, the fake brands and tarps near ramshackle stores, people sitting around on monoblock chairs... I live in south east asia and there still are places like this that may be dirty but are bustling with life and culture,
I would actually prefer realistic looking grimy places like this as opposed to Tekken's clearly-cgi-anime-fantasy locations. Dust, grime, natural lighting, for a martial arts fan it just makes these fights much more grounded and realistic.
I mean, thats tekken identity at this point, so thats fair. But seeing Virtua fighter going to this more grounded and realistic approach is something we havent seen in a long time.@@gogadantes8699
Come on, this is a choreographed scene that was most likely motion captured from 2 stunt men and then manipulated. We will most likely get some contextual blocking animations, but it’s not going to look like the concept video
@@Newnodrogbob The best I’m hoping for is a last of us 2 situation where the trailer was clearly more hand crafted but the final product was pretty damn close.
@@charlieparklaws yeah, of course. It depends, too, on how forgiving your definition of “close,” is. TLoU is a very different kind of game, too. Half a dozen contextual variations in how hits are delivered or enemy reactions is incredibly immersive and lifelike in a 3rd person adventure game. You’d need 10 times as many to make fighting games look genuine. Or…you’d have to seriously limit the number of actions available to each character. I’m looking at the little game clip near the end and to my eyes it’s nothing like the concept. Raising her knee to block mid kicks as versus punches is cool and all, but it’s not at all like the whole body repositioning smoothly flowing into responsive strikes from the concept trailer. I don’t know why I care. That kind of wing Chun style parrying of blows occurs nowhere in real fights and looks “real” to us because of movies and TV.
Even though it’s not actual gameplay, this looks completely crazy. I have no story with VF and I got completely blown away from this footage. Can’t describe how excited I got.
A martial arts game based on martial arts movies is literally what MK & Tekken use to be, before they got fantastical & ridiculous. Hope VF keeps its purity it looks like it could be one of the all time great fighting games!!
It’s actually kinda insane that Jensen Huang is the presenter for this. Beyond just a promo, he probably actually loves VF and other OG fighters in general
Partly maybe. But it's mainly because he and NVIDIA got huge help from SEGA CEO back then which made em avoid bankruptcy. So SEGA is definitely special in his heart. He would be more than happy to help advertise the game that also helped NVIDIA to make their debut in the 90s.
@@TVindustries5000 that's not just mocap, that clip clearly has manual animation work done. OBVIOUSLY the game will not look exactly like that, but it will look almost exactly like that because of the points max makes about the current market.
I'd tone it back to Kamurocho in the older games rather than flippin' Hawaii but yeah, it's the Yakuza devs, they're doing it. Putting in an explorable town will be a layup for them.
Max talking about VF's smooth gameplay and visual is so damn true. I STILL play VF2 on the sega saturn sometimes and that game is smooth as hell. And the camera slighty spinning around the fighters before the match starts is also pretty much the same. Can't wait for this.
I love VF2, but I wish people would pay more attention to Fighting Vipers and Fighter Megamix, both are equally excellent. I wish Fighter Megamix was ported to current platforms, taking advantage of the wave of Saturn re-releases on PS4/Switch/PC.
@@Grotek Are you sure? I'm almost sure it runs at 60FPS It does run at a lower resolution that Virtua Fighter 2 and have some slowdown here and there, but its really pushing the hardware combining the VF3 moveset with the FV mechanics and destructible stages
@ maybe that. Many years passed :) but I recall it wasn't as fluid as other games. I really loved Fighting Vipers and Last Bronx. Fighters Mega mix just didn't play well.
I've developed something a few years back that used motion matching and ik to make a character perform different movements depending where your target object was and adjust them. This is the same tech on steroids, on a parry the target is the incoming hit and the action is the correspondent martial arts move to parry that type of attack. You could also do something like having a high punch being performed with left or right hand and in various positions so that depending if one of your arms is currently unavailable or your position is unfavourable (like in the video when they exchange blows) your move will look like the perfect natural attack you would normally do. The fact that I understand how it works makes it even more exciting, this game is going to make the old fighting games finally look old ^^
Seems to be a concept video of what they want the game to be, but many things will likely be cut. It looks very close to actual martial arts movie combat and there's quite a few things that seem very unlikely because tech isn't at the level where that can be made into gameplay just yet.
Guerilla has been on record saying that the Killzone 2 footage was never supposed to be shown to the public. Credit to them though, the final game still didn't disappoint visually.
Morning ` @@sadetwizelve . -graphics being EVEN more at the forefront -in gaming. -Virtua Fighter being at EVO . -new features will include stuff like take a headshot of yourself and Ai will add your face to the protagonist in character creation . -stuff like this ^ regarding gameplay stages too i`ll stop there to keep it in context . have a good day
I'm actually excited for the RGG written story, imagine: Akira, a Japanese orphan raised by a Hong Kong mafia Bajiquan master, a branch leader who's involved in a high profile family dispute and was murdered by one of his own men. He travels around to seek revenge and the truth behind everything, he meets Pai, who turns out to be the daughter of policeman who's corrupt and involved with the whole thing that resulted in her mother's death. Sarah is an interpol undercover as a university student who's been investigating this thing as the mafia is involved in international drug trade, one day she meets a woman who looks exactly like her called Stella.
Those moves are some of 3 or 4 different characters into 1 combo character for demo purposes. Side step and block animations are no longer stagger style. Get up animations to avoid low attacks? There is a Jacky kick combo, Akira reverse hit.. into Kage style kick ender. This is a great way to get back to basic fight techniques. No more endless juggles. Get ready to fight for real!
One way how i think Sega could be implementing that "dynamic blocking" is to hold the block button and either hitting the punch button and kick button as the opponent is attacking you. For example that kick-up would be something like hold the block button then "press up" and so for this dynamic blocking system to work effectively, a player must know exactly what type of attack/combos are coming and know the timing of them.
As much as I like tekken 8, gonna be glad there’s a 3D fighter that doesn’t have fighters turn into demons mid game or shoot you with magic out of nowhere
@@majorlazor5058 Yeah, VF vs Tekken is like sliced bread vs a sandwich. Sure, a fresh slice of bread can be a treat, but a lot of people would rather have a sandwich at the end of the day. VF6 better be baking some good shit
Tekken became it's own thing since 3 and has been doing amazing since then, Virtua Fighter was a dead franchise until now so doubt they need to copy anything from VF lol
I know it’s just conceptual gameplay footage and not actual gameplay, but RGG delivers more often than not when it comes to their visuals and gameplay teasers. LAD: Gaiden and LAD8: IW are fantastic looking games, and I can’t wait to see what RGG cooks up.
@ maybe maybe not. I think the yakuza creators are pretty determined to never have Kiryu punch a woman. (I want Ichiban in smash as a dragon quest hero echo though)
I would actually love for Yu Suzuki to be a secret character, like Dural but playable, with Yu providing his own mocap and preferred set of martial arts moves.
If this game turns out to be legendary and people are foolish enough to sleep on it I'm going to be so annoyed. So much of what Sega does seems to get overlooked. Surely people will sit up and take notice?
Well... it's just perfectly paced scripted concept animations.... but if the real game is just 1/3 as good as that, it's gonna be amazing... can't wait to see how Aoi's fucked'up Aikido reversals look with that level of animation fidelity.
What else is amazing is that the VF team managed to make me relive the feeling had when I first saw VF1 in the arcade back when I was 11 years old lol. Well done.
Me too. I just hope I dont have the same feeling I had when I was a kid and actually played the game and realized it looked cool but wasn’t as fun and other fighting games.
@marcusgabriel8365 I used to play Soul Calibur 2 and 3 a lot. My friends and I would spend minutes dodging, parrying, and counter-blocking-it felt almost choreographed. It was epic and showed real skill. These days, I only play Brawlhalla. 3D fighting feels so generic now. @cyrusisnt You’re missing the point, my friend. The Daigo Parry was thrilling not because of the counterattack but because the game made such a parry possible in the first place.
yesterday i was watching the keynote by myself, they showed virtua fighter and i was like "what the hell? and max is not seeing it?!" then i checked and yes, he was seeing it.
@erg1947 THATS WHY IM SO HYPE!! I played plenty of Yakuza and my fav Judgement Eyes to see that, especially since they had Virtua Fighter ports in them so a legit mix of both sounds too good to be true
With the Yakuza team on it, creators of (fight me) the best open world video game series going right now, my excitement is through the roof and halfway to Mars.
The fact of the matter is that even if this is scripted, the animation tech to do something like this without going insane with work is already here for some time, nobody has just never done it. Honestly this return to more human like movement is something I wish other genres go back as well, like even medieval fantasy, have a knight looking feel like he is human in his skill while lancing a dragon on horseback, no need for anime powers.
@@dreadtrain2846 Like Max said, it might be the direction SEGA WANTS to do for Virtua Fighter combat system. It might not be 100% same, but even if they can produce something close enough to this, its already insanely interesting.
I think what's worth mentioning is that RGG probably announced Virtua Fighter and Project Century at the same time for a reason. The combat in Project Century is also very different from the arcadey brawler style that Yakuza/Like a Dragon/Judgment has(which now with the recent games are borderline hack n' slash DMC levels since you can juggle), it's much more up close and physical with the limb interaction in both hand to hand combat and weapon combat, so there might be some sort of smart limbic system technology that RGG is working on that has characters reach for parts of the body.
2:17 (previously it was 1:32) That choreography at that fighting game tho- 😳? If this is an actual game mechanic that literally use choreography in actual competitive fights, then this VF game will be a great fighting game innovation in history
It's a tiny thing, but I LOVE the reactive blocking. Yes, it's JUST animation, but that SELLS me more on this game than anything else. On Max's point, I'm remembering the disappointment people had when Windwaker came out after the footage of post Ocarina Link fighting Ganondorf.
This reminds me of king fu movies when i was a kid those animation are good but the blocking is nuts how clean, and the leg sweep avoided by the get up shows how tight theyre aiming the hit boxes to be I hope they manage to capture their concept because this will be the true next gen fighting game
10:51 - 11:42 - 3D fighters are incredibly similar to 2D fighters in this fashion: SF and VF are huge influences that are in the DNA of SNK and DOA/TEKKEN respectively. Huge stuff that we could see from outer space, but could never tell exactly what it is.
Like Max said, this is a HUGE gamble if the game comes out and looks/plays completely different than this. It's either gonna be so sick that VF finally breaks into the western FGC scene or it's gonna so phony that VF cements itself as a Japan only franchise.
Maximmillian says "you wouldnt show a proof of concept unless your product was rediculously close to being done." Clearly this guy hasnt heard of Kingdom Hearts.
It could be that interactions between players can be held like grab breaking in vf5, but for every interaction in vf6. Also, we're seeing "ducking" as-in kinda like Brad does, and no crouching as-in hold "down+G". Maybe there's a ducking button (hold for crouch/ tap for crouch dash)and the left stick is 8way walk/run even when Guarding, like for fully 3d movement. maybe no more fuzzy guards.
🔥 I'm really liking what Im seeing here! This looks like an evolution in the fighting game space which is what I think the genre needs. Putting the Virtua back in Virtua Fighter! Im super excited for this title! Great coverage Max 🥸👍
10:13 you could be right about holding the block button… but I think it’s more than that. SF has parry I feel like this is more of a parry than just holding down a block button. But parry with arrows up down forward back…….at the same time feels like the attack are also being used with high/low/medium with punch with an arrow indicating the attack area.
To talk about the camera, I feel likerhe camera movement is a physical representation of whose turn it is. The attacker has the camera slightly shift more towards their back. It's a really interesting way to depict the momentum of Virtua Fighter visually.
Breakdown of the trailer concept: 1. Block puts in auto animation responses to the attacks being thrown making it feel fluid, it is using an ai solver for motion blending. 2. The damage potential is based on successful perry attack ratios, there seems to be stamina determined by block fatigue. This is highly conceptual but we put in similar with one of our titles in development, it is an ultimate way to evolve the fighting genre for newer players. 3. The rendering tech for the face is using a Local Language model, also shown in the demo (Nvidia Ace) and most likely will be using LM powered NPC's for the world. 3. A tribute to Suzuki-san is in the background of the mockup. Fun sid note. 4. Environmental damage is real, and increases damage output. Enjoy!
The fighting is so dynamic and realistic this is iether pre choreographed non interactive gameplay almost like a cutscene or this game has an absurd level of complexity and defensive and offensive options and this is choreographed gameplay showing off the potential of what is possible almost like what meina highway dose I hope its the latter
I must say this game looks sick….like Max pointed out I love the emphasis on realistic hardcore direct physical combat and reflexes, plus the environmental damage that can occur is neat. Never played a VF before but damn this does look tempting and hype! Mostly a Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat guy myself. So glad to see them bringing it back with all the modern technology and flavor!
It reminds me of how SWTOR invested heavily in making auto-attack animations for lightsabers choreographed to look like parries and blocks until the final kill strike.
The thing about contextual animation or cool shit when guarding is they have to VERY take account and put a lot of thought & work in EVERY single characters moveset AND how each of them would interact with each other and also possible future characters. I feel like that would be nigh impossible and hard to do unless they limit the interactions to the reveal trailer level, which still very hard to make it look good and smooth for all of the fighter variables
Two Minute Papers has been covering experimental animation techniques that do exactly this for years at stage. I’m going to guess it’s an AI based animation technique to drive the blocking animations
@@abonham82 I checked it out and yeah its pretty amazing what you can do with AI. And its from 3 years ago! Curious if its really practical and applicable for fighting game like this or if the devs which consist of the original team would even use something like that
It’s an Akira skin for another character’s moves set or at least parts of one. It’s not Akira’s moves (aka character gameplay). It’s just to show off the visual (and possibly interactive) fluidity of the guard mechanics, that they choose this style of fighting, and to give throwback to kung fu cinema.
Looks like we might be witnessing the 3D fighter evolve in the same way we saw the 2D fighter evolve into 2.5D in the late 00s/early 2010s with SFIV, MK9, any Arc System games and KI
I would not be surprised if the smoothness of the animations are similar if not better In the final game. Reason is I used to make video games back in the early to mid-2000s and one of the things that had rapid development was dynamic animation systems such as this. They basically fell to the wayside because thanks to development budgets and deadlines. Game companies now crack whips at developers to get your game out as fast as you can. So you need to make sure that you've locked down every single base mechanic and that doesn't break and then polish it to the best of your ability until you've run out of money, time or both. I think what happened here is not only are they prioritizing animations, but it's very obvious that Sega is letting this team take as much time as they want and I think that allows them to implement something that basically we used to see the beginning of in like 2008 and 2010 but never got to see flourish due to how game development change. Thanks to consumer demand from the 2010s until now.
I like the fact that there's not crazy hit Sparks flying everywhere and realistically and huge combos from wall to wall but obviously it's not real gameplay so we don't know
@@FullmetalPain right but I don't think it had the map and location with all the Sega icons and what not that you could aquire from more difficult flights. I had all their games and I still have VF 2,4,4E, and the original 5 that you speak of. I hope they put some Fighting Viper characters in this just a call back to Fighters Mega Mix
The best fights have many blocks and parries with one hit. Think 2 top tier players going at it. Realistic fighting like saying, ' Checkout my Kung fu.' Virtua has evolved above all others.
When you look at the fighting in the earlier teaser, it may not be QUITE this smooth, but it's going to be damn close. Those in-betweens for blocking animations and ducking that looks more like a dodge are part of why it looks so good in these early teasers. Even if they don't do "bigger" gameplay soon, if they show more with other characters, it should start to put some pieces together to all of this stuff that's pretty speculative right now.
He kiupped the sweep! There's counter trapping involved! That's my takeaway! Actual martial arts stuff! Also, contextual blocking has been around since Shenmue.
I think it'll look good but in terms of the animation and transitions between moves, I doubt it'll be as good as the concept. The concept's transitions move so perfectly that it just feels like they mocap'd two guys fighting. If you look at the teaser, you can see they are applying the ideas and dynamic blocking and such but it doesn't move quite as realistic or accurate as the concept. It feels more "in the ball park" so they can actually make it work. Still looks really cool though and a step forwards in what is possible.
Virtua Fighter 6 ain’t even got an official title and Akira already got Costume 3.
Wow. Are you not happy with your costume #25 for your world tour avatar? 💀 /s
Yeah, Hobo and Totally Not Ryu
I was about to post the same thing lol
Tbh, I like Akira's Yakuza look in the teaser trailer for VF6. He gives me a more grizzled old master who fights for a living vibe & I'm all for it
@@Vinthechad Dude straight up looks like Daigo in Yakuza 5 lmao
People too concerned about realistic graphics. What really impresses us is realistic movement and interactions
Always remember: great art direction trumps realistic graphics every time. Realistic graphics will, inevitable, age poorly... but great art direction is forever.
It's just mocap, not gameplay, it's even written : not actual gameplay... Mocap applied to 3D models nothing much...
It seems pretty choreographed tbh. I doubt thats how the combat will be
interactivity > fidelity
Why show a concept video from years ago ? Just show the game. It's such a weird choice. It's not like it's years away. Max justifying this is hilarious.
If they actually animate blocking and just make it a standard animation across characters, thatll take fighting games to another level visually. Itd look so visually captivating
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Facts been saying this 🤔
It already looks better than Tekken 8 and Street Fighter 6. Definitely more interesting looking. Hopefully it doesn't get downgraded.
Hopefully each character has their own unique guard animations that fit with their fighting style
we have to thank phantom blade zero to do that first in their demo
That background though, probably the best Fighting Game background since the peak of Capcom and SNK's pixel art era. The clutter of the telephone lines and the rusty metal rooftops, the fake brands and tarps near ramshackle stores, people sitting around on monoblock chairs...
I live in south east asia and there still are places like this that may be dirty but are bustling with life and culture,
I would actually prefer realistic looking grimy places like this as opposed to Tekken's clearly-cgi-anime-fantasy locations. Dust, grime, natural lighting, for a martial arts fan it just makes these fights much more grounded and realistic.
I mean, thats tekken identity at this point, so thats fair. But seeing Virtua fighter going to this more grounded and realistic approach is something we havent seen in a long time.@@gogadantes8699
that kind of place is everywhere in southeast Asia, I'm also southeast asian.
Sf6 nayshall:....uhhhmmm,hello?!?
Well to be fair Ryu Ga Gotoku is developing the game
I mean the fact that the Yakuza dev team is teaming up here is an indication that something on the same lines of world tour is gonna happen
Shit might be even better than world tour mode.
@@ghastlyanarchy1720 I can guarantee that it'll be better than World Tour if that's the route they're taking.
@SolidSnake240 oh yeah. I'm very well familiar with the Yakuza franchise, so if there's a world tour or story mode to this game, I'm here for it.
RGG being involved basically confirms we gonna get incredible spaces and wild minigames. Can't wait.
More like what Shenmue was originally going to be, an Virtua Fighter rpg
Casuals usually complain about having to block. This might be a way to make blocking fun for the casual audience
Underrated comment. How to make beginners block? Make it look as cool as attacking!
Come on, this is a choreographed scene that was most likely motion captured from 2 stunt men and then manipulated. We will most likely get some contextual blocking animations, but it’s not going to look like the concept video
@@Newnodrogbob The best I’m hoping for is a last of us 2 situation where the trailer was clearly more hand crafted but the final product was pretty damn close.
@@charlieparklaws yeah, of course. It depends, too, on how forgiving your definition of “close,” is. TLoU is a very different kind of game, too. Half a dozen contextual variations in how hits are delivered or enemy reactions is incredibly immersive and lifelike in a 3rd person adventure game. You’d need 10 times as many to make fighting games look genuine. Or…you’d have to seriously limit the number of actions available to each character.
I’m looking at the little game clip near the end and to my eyes it’s nothing like the concept. Raising her knee to block mid kicks as versus punches is cool and all, but it’s not at all like the whole body repositioning smoothly flowing into responsive strikes from the concept trailer. I don’t know why I care. That kind of wing Chun style parrying of blows occurs nowhere in real fights and looks “real” to us because of movies and TV.
Max shutting up the instant vf1 was shown cracks me up
I got there late and said "Surely they'll show VF" and like, WHY WOULD HE BET 100 GIFT SUBS ON THAT?! Did he forget about the VF Direct?!
i swear to god either he has some connection that leaked to him that this reveal would happen or were in a simulation hahaha XD
Even though it’s not actual gameplay, this looks completely crazy. I have no story with VF and I got completely blown away from this footage. Can’t describe how excited I got.
It’s a martial arts movie that you can play online
HELL YEAH BROTHER
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Well said
Unless you or your opponent plays on wifi then it’s basically an action movie with a lot of cuts in it’s fight scenes
A martial arts game based on martial arts movies is literally what MK & Tekken use to be, before they got fantastical & ridiculous. Hope VF keeps its purity it looks like it could be one of the all time great fighting games!!
It’s actually kinda insane that Jensen Huang is the presenter for this. Beyond just a promo, he probably actually loves VF and other OG fighters in general
Partly maybe. But it's mainly because he and NVIDIA got huge help from SEGA CEO back then which made em avoid bankruptcy.
So SEGA is definitely special in his heart. He would be more than happy to help advertise the game that also helped NVIDIA to make their debut in the 90s.
The only thing Huang loves is money.
VF has helped his company make money since the early 90's
If Akira is that big, imagine how big Jeffry and Wolf are gonna look. Seeing all these characters reimagined is going to be a real treat. VF is Back!
And Imagine Kage and Lion
I can't wait for goh.
BIG BODY META
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Akira looks like he is on Tren lol.
This looks like the default dream fighting game you always imagined.
Not for me
@@majorlazor5058didn’t ask
Even though it's just pre-development footage and definitely won't play like this, the graphics and choreography of the fight looks great.
yeah it looks like they just mocapped a fight scene that may be used for cutscenes just playing out in game
Intern here 🖐🏻
It will play exactly as you see it :)
Cheers!
@@TVindustries5000 that's not just mocap, that clip clearly has manual animation work done. OBVIOUSLY the game will not look exactly like that, but it will look almost exactly like that because of the points max makes about the current market.
@@Djay-Teeyou are really an intern?
@@for3v3xyy0ung I am. I work with the combat choreography team. The game mechanics will be really enjoyable :) that's all I can say guys, cheers!
a virtua fighter with a world to explore like Like a Dragon would be the greatest singleplayer fighting game experience ever
Shenmue was essentially that, the combat used the same engine as VF back then.
and Yakuza is like, Good Shenmue, so it has potential
I'd tone it back to Kamurocho in the older games rather than flippin' Hawaii but yeah, it's the Yakuza devs, they're doing it. Putting in an explorable town will be a layup for them.
Max talking about VF's smooth gameplay and visual is so damn true. I STILL play VF2 on the sega saturn sometimes and that game is smooth as hell. And the camera slighty spinning around the fighters before the match starts is also pretty much the same. Can't wait for this.
VF2 is such an amazing game.
I love VF2, but I wish people would pay more attention to Fighting Vipers and Fighter Megamix, both are equally excellent.
I wish Fighter Megamix was ported to current platforms, taking advantage of the wave of Saturn re-releases on PS4/Switch/PC.
@@l3rvn0 Fighters Megamix doesn't play well as it's capped to 30fps on Saturn
@@Grotek Are you sure? I'm almost sure it runs at 60FPS
It does run at a lower resolution that Virtua Fighter 2 and have some slowdown here and there, but its really pushing the hardware combining the VF3 moveset with the FV mechanics and destructible stages
@ maybe that. Many years passed :) but I recall it wasn't as fluid as other games. I really loved Fighting Vipers and Last Bronx. Fighters Mega mix just didn't play well.
I've developed something a few years back that used motion matching and ik to make a character perform different movements depending where your target object was and adjust them. This is the same tech on steroids, on a parry the target is the incoming hit and the action is the correspondent martial arts move to parry that type of attack. You could also do something like having a high punch being performed with left or right hand and in various positions so that depending if one of your arms is currently unavailable or your position is unfavourable (like in the video when they exchange blows) your move will look like the perfect natural attack you would normally do. The fact that I understand how it works makes it even more exciting, this game is going to make the old fighting games finally look old ^^
yep
Bruh, the pre-development choreography looks clean.
The Tekken trailer caused so much speculation with new block animations etc - then the game dropped and none of that was carried over.
@@HowlGough Yep, hate choreographed non-gameplay footage for that. Still haven’t got over KH3’s initial teaser.
Seems to be a concept video of what they want the game to be, but many things will likely be cut. It looks very close to actual martial arts movie combat and there's quite a few things that seem very unlikely because tech isn't at the level where that can be made into gameplay just yet.
@@HowlGoughYeah, Tekken 8 it's kind of a disappointment at this point. Clive is literally not what people need or want
This is a mocap cutscene, nothing more.
"THIS GAME IS GONNA FUCK!!!" 17:08
-Max 2025
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Hahaha was looking for this comment
Hhhhh
I know... what a line. 😅
Akira getting his get back after being made into an assist trophy
Lmao
😂😂😂 the comments are on fire today🔥
Same for shadow the hedgehog
He was in that Sonic racing game.
Guerilla has been on record saying that the Killzone 2 footage was never supposed to be shown to the public. Credit to them though, the final game still didn't disappoint visually.
It did lmao
That game still looks better than most shooters nowadays as well as 3, the art direction was perfect
Yeah Killzone 2 looks insane even today, such a fantastic atmosphere, animations and enemy AI
I vividly remember Killzone 2 getting raked over the coals cuz the final game didn't look like that footage.
Agree, that opening sequence when you land on Hellghast is still one of the most chaotic I've played in a shooter. My favorite FPS of all time.
Virtua Fighter being almost the first thing on screen at the event was eye opening to the future
to the past*
@@kcidd12 also , very much yes
How?
Morning ` @@sadetwizelve .
-graphics being EVEN more at the forefront -in gaming.
-Virtua Fighter being at EVO .
-new features will include stuff like take a headshot of yourself and Ai will add your face to the protagonist in character creation .
-stuff like this ^ regarding gameplay stages too
i`ll stop there to keep it in context . have a good day
Knowing RGG is making it, we're about to get a generational OST that curb stomps all current fighting game ones
I'm actually excited for the RGG written story, imagine: Akira, a Japanese orphan raised by a Hong Kong mafia Bajiquan master, a branch leader who's involved in a high profile family dispute and was murdered by one of his own men.
He travels around to seek revenge and the truth behind everything, he meets Pai, who turns out to be the daughter of policeman who's corrupt and involved with the whole thing that resulted in her mother's death.
Sarah is an interpol undercover as a university student who's been investigating this thing as the mafia is involved in international drug trade, one day she meets a woman who looks exactly like her called Stella.
If they have a Create-a-Fighter, I want "As You Like" to be the music playing in the background.
Those moves are some of 3 or 4 different characters into 1 combo character for demo purposes.
Side step and block animations are no longer stagger style.
Get up animations to avoid low attacks?
There is a Jacky kick combo, Akira reverse hit.. into Kage style kick ender.
This is a great way to get back to basic fight techniques.
No more endless juggles.
Get ready to fight for real!
One way how i think Sega could be implementing that "dynamic blocking" is to hold the block button and either hitting the punch button and kick button as the opponent is attacking you. For example that kick-up would be something like hold the block button then "press up" and so for this dynamic blocking system to work effectively, a player must know exactly what type of attack/combos are coming and know the timing of them.
If they put even half of that concept into the game, this is going to be terrific.
As much as I like tekken 8, gonna be glad there’s a 3D fighter that doesn’t have fighters turn into demons mid game or shoot you with magic out of nowhere
@@marcusgabriel8365also the often stupid gimmicks of each fighter in tekken. I'm so ready for VF
I’m not getting too excited. VF was never as fun to play as Tekken and SF even if it had more realistic and smoother move sets.
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Yeah, VF vs Tekken is like sliced bread vs a sandwich. Sure, a fresh slice of bread can be a treat, but a lot of people would rather have a sandwich at the end of the day.
VF6 better be baking some good shit
@@majorlazor5058 hard disagree. VF and Soul Calibur are the only 3D fighters I enjoy beyond a casual interest
The fight choreography was definitely super smooth and on rails. If the actual gameplay looks like that, then color me impressed.
We all know it wont play like this but if they are just a little close to this it is gonna be very special
In my opinion it looked very slow and not fun to play. I hope the game will be like in the very first preview
You can see all the neutrons get activated in real time the moment he heard that GO 0:25
I can't believe Max became radioactive
It was fucking instant too lmao
Harada: Finally after 20 years i can copy from Virtua Fighter again.
Harada: A producer with no brain and has a mental disability LOL
If VF6 eventually comes out in this quality, f to tekken8😁
@@carlchen7948 LOL its been F tekken for decades.
@@TowDow3lol never that. Tekken is the best of the big 3 this is going to be fun as well
Tekken became it's own thing since 3 and has been doing amazing since then, Virtua Fighter was a dead franchise until now so doubt they need to copy anything from VF lol
I know it’s just conceptual gameplay footage and not actual gameplay, but RGG delivers more often than not when it comes to their visuals and gameplay teasers.
LAD: Gaiden and LAD8: IW are fantastic looking games, and I can’t wait to see what RGG cooks up.
That’s a good point. Even YAKUZA7LAD was originally a joke teaser and it played even better than it looked.
We having Yakuza Pirate in Hawaii with Majima and the combat looks like straight from DMC cause we finally got the jump
And we will finally be getting Kiryu in a fighting game. Almost garenteed.
@ maybe maybe not. I think the yakuza creators are pretty determined to never have Kiryu punch a woman. (I want Ichiban in smash as a dragon quest hero echo though)
@@HatsAlEsmanrecently, they said they wanted to focus on multi media for the series
If I'm SEGA, I'm throwing money at Donnie Yen just for motion capture for V6 and have him as a special guest character or something.
I would actually love for Yu Suzuki to be a secret character, like Dural but playable, with Yu providing his own mocap and preferred set of martial arts moves.
VF6 adding famous kung fu actors as guest characters would be so sick.
@@CherryAnime203yo Tony Jaa would be sick af
@@GeebusCrust💯
Donnie Yen would be the perfect guest character
The UI basically has spaces for overlays already that's sick.
If the gameplay is close to this it’s a game changer
It has to be as good or better otherwise it’s a typical bait and switch. In engine is meaningless.
But it looks so slow and boring. The first Preview of the game looked awesome.
Max: “This does not compute. I don’t know what to believe anymore.”
If this game turns out to be legendary and people are foolish enough to sleep on it I'm going to be so annoyed. So much of what Sega does seems to get overlooked. Surely people will sit up and take notice?
Well... it's just perfectly paced scripted concept animations.... but if the real game is just 1/3 as good as that, it's gonna be amazing... can't wait to see how Aoi's fucked'up Aikido reversals look with that level of animation fidelity.
I think the game award trailer which apparently is real gameplay is already a success in that regard.
What else is amazing is that the VF team managed to make me relive the feeling had when I first saw VF1 in the arcade back when I was 11 years old lol. Well done.
Me too. I just hope I dont have the same feeling I had when I was a kid and actually played the game and realized it looked cool but wasn’t as fun and other fighting games.
I just want the yakuza characters as part of the Virtua Fighter universe
I would like Kurohyou and Judgement characters too.
But Kiryu don't hurt a Lady..😂??
Kiryu is blocked from appearing in fighting games with girls.
Mark my words: the first game to nail this kind of gameplay will become the new king of the genre!
@marcusgabriel8365 I used to play Soul Calibur 2 and 3 a lot. My friends and I would spend minutes dodging, parrying, and counter-blocking-it felt almost choreographed. It was epic and showed real skill. These days, I only play Brawlhalla. 3D fighting feels so generic now.
@cyrusisnt You’re missing the point, my friend. The Daigo Parry was thrilling not because of the counterattack but because the game made such a parry possible in the first place.
yesterday i was watching the keynote by myself, they showed virtua fighter and i was like "what the hell? and max is not seeing it?!" then i checked and yes, he was seeing it.
I had no idea Nvidea helped with the VF arcade board in 1993. I thought they started in 1999...
Ye, they actually started 1993
Virtua Fighter:🔥🔥🔥
Max: This game is gonna.. F**K!!
🤣🤣🤣
Max just got me hyped for VF6. If in-between animations and unique blocking animations are in the game... I'm all in
the fighting sequence looks straight out of a movie fight scene
Thats because it's not game footage lol.
Looks like straight out of Yakuza games fight scene
'This game is gonna f*ck!' ~Max
I'm really hope that a "World Tour" mode is what they're going for as I'd argue that's one of the coolest things SF6 has.
I would too, but according to the FGC, single player content doesn't matter
I mean it is RGG developing in, they've plenty to drawn on from their other games to build on a world tour type mode.
@erg1947 THATS WHY IM SO HYPE!! I played plenty of Yakuza and my fav Judgement Eyes to see that, especially since they had Virtua Fighter ports in them so a legit mix of both sounds too good to be true
With the Yakuza team on it, creators of (fight me) the best open world video game series going right now, my excitement is through the roof and halfway to Mars.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMANdon't forget the sweet combat, especially in Gaiden
The Master has come back to show everyone how it’s done
VF was a master?
@@majorlazor5058Tekken came straight up from VF 's DNA.
@@majorlazor5058Well if your game spawned games that have been going on for a lifetime. Yeah it's safe to call it a master
The fact of the matter is that even if this is scripted, the animation tech to do something like this without going insane with work is already here for some time, nobody has just never done it. Honestly this return to more human like movement is something I wish other genres go back as well, like even medieval fantasy, have a knight looking feel like he is human in his skill while lancing a dragon on horseback, no need for anime powers.
The footage has nothing to do with gameplay, it's literally just a movie. Its easy peasy (relative to actual coding) to do in Unreal Engine.
@@dreadtrain2846 Like Max said, it might be the direction SEGA WANTS to do for Virtua Fighter combat system. It might not be 100% same, but even if they can produce something close enough to this, its already insanely interesting.
I miss DOA. If this is what Virtua Fighter ends up being (DOA without the micro bikinis), I’m 100% showing up for this on day one.
🤣🤣🤣🤣I'm with ya
I think what's worth mentioning is that RGG probably announced Virtua Fighter and Project Century at the same time for a reason. The combat in Project Century is also very different from the arcadey brawler style that Yakuza/Like a Dragon/Judgment has(which now with the recent games are borderline hack n' slash DMC levels since you can juggle), it's much more up close and physical with the limb interaction in both hand to hand combat and weapon combat, so there might be some sort of smart limbic system technology that RGG is working on that has characters reach for parts of the body.
2:17 (previously it was 1:32) That choreography at that fighting game tho- 😳? If this is an actual game mechanic that literally use choreography in actual competitive fights, then this VF game will be a great fighting game innovation in history
It's a tiny thing, but I LOVE the reactive blocking. Yes, it's JUST animation, but that SELLS me more on this game than anything else. On Max's point, I'm remembering the disappointment people had when Windwaker came out after the footage of post Ocarina Link fighting Ganondorf.
This reminds me of king fu movies when i was a kid those animation are good but the blocking is nuts how clean, and the leg sweep avoided by the get up shows how tight theyre aiming the hit boxes to be I hope they manage to capture their concept because this will be the true next gen fighting game
This is how 3D fighting games should look. no outrageous GFX bs
10:51 - 11:42 - 3D fighters are incredibly similar to 2D fighters in this fashion: SF and VF are huge influences that are in the DNA of SNK and DOA/TEKKEN respectively.
Huge stuff that we could see from outer space, but could never tell exactly what it is.
Like Max said, this is a HUGE gamble if the game comes out and looks/plays completely different than this. It's either gonna be so sick that VF finally breaks into the western FGC scene or it's gonna so phony that VF cements itself as a Japan only franchise.
Bro if the game is even half this smooth fr, Jacky's (Bruce Lee guy) gameplay trailer is gonna break the Internet!!
This is something the clash of ninja games did, Shikamaru's block button is just dodging and it looks sick
Maximmillian says "you wouldnt show a proof of concept unless your product was rediculously close to being done."
Clearly this guy hasnt heard of Kingdom Hearts.
It could be that interactions between players can be held like grab breaking in vf5, but for every interaction in vf6.
Also, we're seeing "ducking" as-in kinda like Brad does, and no crouching as-in hold "down+G".
Maybe there's a ducking button (hold for crouch/ tap for crouch dash)and the left stick is 8way walk/run even when Guarding, like for fully 3d movement.
maybe no more fuzzy guards.
🔥 I'm really liking what Im seeing here! This looks like an evolution in the fighting game space which is what I think the genre needs. Putting the Virtua back in Virtua Fighter! Im super excited for this title! Great coverage Max 🥸👍
The amount of people on Twitter making a big deal about everyone getting excited watching this is insane, yes we know it's not gameplay we can read😂
10:13 you could be right about holding the block button… but I think it’s more than that. SF has parry I feel like this is more of a parry than just holding down a block button. But parry with arrows up down forward back…….at the same time feels like the attack are also being used with high/low/medium with punch with an arrow indicating the attack area.
To talk about the camera, I feel likerhe camera movement is a physical representation of whose turn it is. The attacker has the camera slightly shift more towards their back. It's a really interesting way to depict the momentum of Virtua Fighter visually.
I like how blocking is not just raising your forearm anymore
Breakdown of the trailer concept:
1. Block puts in auto animation responses to the attacks being thrown making it feel fluid, it is using an ai solver for motion blending.
2. The damage potential is based on successful perry attack ratios, there seems to be stamina determined by block fatigue. This is highly conceptual but we put in similar with one of our titles in development, it is an ultimate way to evolve the fighting genre for newer players.
3. The rendering tech for the face is using a Local Language model, also shown in the demo (Nvidia Ace) and most likely will be using LM powered NPC's for the world. 3. A tribute to Suzuki-san is in the background of the mockup. Fun sid note.
4. Environmental damage is real, and increases damage output.
Enjoy!
Nice detail Sporting!
This is essentially really high effort in engine concept art, but it's really good concept art.
The fighting is so dynamic and realistic this is iether pre choreographed non interactive gameplay almost like a cutscene or this game has an absurd level of complexity and defensive and offensive options and this is choreographed gameplay showing off the potential of what is possible almost like what meina highway dose I hope its the latter
I must say this game looks sick….like Max pointed out I love the emphasis on realistic hardcore direct physical combat and reflexes, plus the environmental damage that can occur is neat. Never played a VF before but damn this does look tempting and hype! Mostly a Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat guy myself. So glad to see them bringing it back with all the modern technology and flavor!
It reminds me of how SWTOR invested heavily in making auto-attack animations for lightsabers choreographed to look like parries and blocks until the final kill strike.
The way they just snuck alpha footage into this presentation is just so crazy to me lol.
The thing about contextual animation or cool shit when guarding is they have to VERY take account and put a lot of thought & work in EVERY single characters moveset AND how each of them would interact with each other and also possible future characters. I feel like that would be nigh impossible and hard to do unless they limit the interactions to the reveal trailer level, which still very hard to make it look good and smooth for all of the fighter variables
They can do it it may be hard but it’s possible
Two Minute Papers has been covering experimental animation techniques that do exactly this for years at stage. I’m going to guess it’s an AI based animation technique to drive the blocking animations
Its not hard compared to actually coding it, it's way easier.
@@abonham82 I checked it out and yeah its pretty amazing what you can do with AI. And its from 3 years ago! Curious if its really practical and applicable for fighting game like this or if the devs which consist of the original team would even use something like that
Luckily VF never had a massive roster
My brain just immediately thought:
Look at that, Somewhere in Metro Manila,Philippines. We're one of the game stages on the latest virtua fighter.
That looks phenomenal. I hope they can make this true.
It’s an Akira skin for another character’s moves set or at least parts of one. It’s not Akira’s moves (aka character gameplay). It’s just to show off the visual (and possibly interactive) fluidity of the guard mechanics, that they choose this style of fighting, and to give throwback to kung fu cinema.
Looks like we might be witnessing the 3D fighter evolve in the same way we saw the 2D fighter evolve into 2.5D in the late 00s/early 2010s with SFIV, MK9, any Arc System games and KI
Huh?
@majorlazor5058 read it again
The fact that Nvidia is backing VF6 so hard you know it's gonna really take mantles left and right. SO fucking happy man!
I would not be surprised if the smoothness of the animations are similar if not better In the final game. Reason is I used to make video games back in the early to mid-2000s and one of the things that had rapid development was dynamic animation systems such as this. They basically fell to the wayside because thanks to development budgets and deadlines. Game companies now crack whips at developers to get your game out as fast as you can. So you need to make sure that you've locked down every single base mechanic and that doesn't break and then polish it to the best of your ability until you've run out of money, time or both. I think what happened here is not only are they prioritizing animations, but it's very obvious that Sega is letting this team take as much time as they want and I think that allows them to implement something that basically we used to see the beginning of in like 2008 and 2010 but never got to see flourish due to how game development change. Thanks to consumer demand from the 2010s until now.
I’ve never seen Akira kicking this much, but I am all for it. I ❤ VF. “You’re 10yrs to late”
I love how when the camera pans around, the health bar is also showing up and rotating towards the end and then fixes itself to the screen
New generation fighting game is sick, ill definitely buying this.
13:33 I think it looks different there, because (at least to me) it's just two people in mocap just fighting.
We finally got dynamic block animations. We did it guys!! Only took 30 years.
With how the studio made the Yakuza/Like a dragon and Judgement games, I wouldn’t be surprised if the final game looks very similar to this footage.
I like the fact that there's not crazy hit Sparks flying everywhere and realistically and huge combos from wall to wall but obviously it's not real gameplay so we don't know
Virtua Fighter 4 evolution started the customization and some type of exploration concept. VF4 Evolution was great for ps2. You just had to be there
Arcade Naomi 2
You mean the Quest mode? I sure hope it's coming back. VF needs a robust singleplayer.
@@FullmetalPain exactly it was nice literally my favorite VF because of that mode
@@kingkellz22z The vanilla version of Virtua Fighter 5 on PS3 and Xbox 360 has it as well.
@@FullmetalPain right but I don't think it had the map and location with all the Sega icons and what not that you could aquire from more difficult flights. I had all their games and I still have VF 2,4,4E, and the original 5 that you speak of. I hope they put some Fighting Viper characters in this just a call back to Fighters Mega Mix
RGG has problaby only 1 year of work on this and they are pumping out so much. This game completely polished I think will be SO impressive.
Virtua Fighter is so back baby....almost
To be fair, Virtua Fighter always had smooth movements during gameplay
Man the new VF? LOOKS FIRE. I can’t stop salivating holy crap
The best fights have many blocks and parries with one hit. Think 2 top tier players going at it. Realistic fighting like saying, ' Checkout my Kung fu.' Virtua has evolved above all others.
“GO BACK” is my new favorite catch phrase
When you look at the fighting in the earlier teaser, it may not be QUITE this smooth, but it's going to be damn close. Those in-betweens for blocking animations and ducking that looks more like a dodge are part of why it looks so good in these early teasers. Even if they don't do "bigger" gameplay soon, if they show more with other characters, it should start to put some pieces together to all of this stuff that's pretty speculative right now.
He kiupped the sweep! There's counter trapping involved! That's my takeaway! Actual martial arts stuff! Also, contextual blocking has been around since Shenmue.
It's called animation matching, I think. Similar to rome 2 totalwar's individual unit combat animation.
4:17 You underestimate the modern gaming industry.
Exactly. They may actually make a game close to this but I doubt it.
Finally a game where your opponent doesn't bounce around on the ground like a ball...
and here we have MK1 doing whatever animation 😂
Stickman fights ahh animations
@SunyataManji Don't put MK's ass animation close to stickman fights, some of those are hype has hell.
@MegaDarkness5000 i apologize, you're completely right
I think it'll look good but in terms of the animation and transitions between moves, I doubt it'll be as good as the concept. The concept's transitions move so perfectly that it just feels like they mocap'd two guys fighting. If you look at the teaser, you can see they are applying the ideas and dynamic blocking and such but it doesn't move quite as realistic or accurate as the concept. It feels more "in the ball park" so they can actually make it work. Still looks really cool though and a step forwards in what is possible.
It’s like If “Virtua Fighter” and “Like a Dragon”, are getting a baby and it’s still in conception Dude!.
It being RGG they are definitely using these animations and designs SOMEWHERE and that's exciting in its own right.