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  • @wyldebill4178
    @wyldebill4178 2 роки тому +196

    You look like George Martin back when these were recorded.

    • @ChubbyChecker182
      @ChubbyChecker182 2 роки тому +9

      And one of the Doctor Whos

    • @wyldebill4178
      @wyldebill4178 2 роки тому +7

      @@ChubbyChecker182 well he’s definitely a Time Lord, I’ll give you that!

    • @jellybIood
      @jellybIood 2 роки тому +4

      “Would anyone care for a cup of tea?”

    • @kevinhentze1909
      @kevinhentze1909 2 роки тому +7

      Nah, He's a Dead-Ringer for...
      Chet Baker!!

    • @friendhui4320
      @friendhui4320 2 роки тому +3

      Put on a black tie, black suit jacket, pocket protector, roll sleeves up while recording and he’s George.

  • @adammedbery4454
    @adammedbery4454 2 роки тому +57

    I feel really lucky to have the mono vinyl set. Barnes and Noble did an insane discount thing for their membership that year, 40% off any item. I paid $225 for it.

    • @mmmbbq
      @mmmbbq 2 роки тому +3

      I think I might have gotten the last retail priced "Help" in mono available from anyone from them. I was looking all over the web for one when prices started creeping up to $50 and I found one at a semi local B&N. Even got 20% off!

    • @AppleCorp3
      @AppleCorp3 2 роки тому +1

      I love hearing stories like this. Congrats on your deal.

    • @THEJ0KER0815
      @THEJ0KER0815 2 роки тому

      i got mine from an old lady. paid 120 bucks.

  • @dmaster5556
    @dmaster5556 2 роки тому +47

    I'm glad I got my Beatles in Mono CD set when I did some 6-7 years ago. $50 off discogs and pretty much the only issue was the booklet got partially damaged by water on the front cover and first couple pages, but the albums were all virtually untouched.

    • @emptyspotlight
      @emptyspotlight 2 роки тому

      I got mine off craigslist it was in excellent condition

    • @duff0120
      @duff0120 2 роки тому

      sgt peppers, white album and abbey road are good in stero, the rest i prefer in mono

    • @stephencooke4569
      @stephencooke4569 2 роки тому

      Bought the Mono CD box when it came out (very few of the vinyl sets turned up locally), and had it out yesterday, comparing the mono White Album CD to my Japanese stereo LP. It's definitely my favourite sounding Beatles on CD.

    • @davecostello3095
      @davecostello3095 2 роки тому +2

      I got my Beatles in Mono when it first came out. In Vinyl. It is my pride and joy.

  • @rocdocs
    @rocdocs 2 роки тому +21

    TRICKY TITLE! I AM HOOKED IN!!! Also, I like the records behind you always being relevant. Excellent attention to detail, great video! Yes.... I WANT THE MONO SET!

    • @therealdjbc
      @therealdjbc 2 роки тому +3

      Totally. I was just noticing the MoFis behind.

  • @ralex3697
    @ralex3697 2 роки тому +24

    This channel is so creative, incredibly presented

  • @mjanovec
    @mjanovec 2 роки тому +3

    You’re confusing the terms “mix” and “mastering” in this video. The original UK stereo albums, the late 70s “blue box” LPs, the Mobile Fidelity pressings, and the 2012 stereo pressings all use the same mixes, but different mastering. (Though some of the 70s pressings use the same stampers that were used in the 60s.) Mixes establish where vocals and instruments fall in the stereo image and how loud they are with respect to each other. Mastering establishes how much overall volume, compression, and EQ-ing takes place when the tapes are cut to vinyl. The Mobile Fidelity LPs are generally disliked because they applied the so-called “smiley-face” EQ mastering that was popular at the time with audiophile releases, boosting the high and low frequencies. The problem is that this diminishes the mid-range frequencies. And that’s where a lot of the “magic” lies in Beatles recordings, especially with respect to vocals.
    (In contrast, the 50th anniversary releases are truly new mixes created by Giles Martin, not just new mastering of the original mixes.)
    I agree that the Mono LP box set from 2014 is the best investment, even at today’s inflated prices. Those LPs were mastered to stay as true as possible to the original pressings. And since hunting down true near mint original mono LPs is insanely expensive, as I can personally attest to, the 2014 set is a more economical way to replicate the original listening experience. With regards to Abbey Road and Let it Be, I suggest finding 70s UK pressings. Those will be all analog and will be much more faithful to the originals than the Mobile Fidelity versions. All of the Beatles tracks from Yellow Submarine do appear in the mono box set. Only the George Martin instrumental songs are missing.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion 2 роки тому

      I agree those were misstated and a common “mix up” :). I tried to address that situation in my latest video ironically!
      ua-cam.com/video/Tcy7A2itJjY/v-deo.html

    • @debessar95
      @debessar95 2 роки тому +1

      The Beatles In Mono vinyl box set 2014 got a digital treatment as they mentioned in leaflet for Please Please Me. Thus, this is not an analog mastering at all. Don't be fooled by the name.

  • @Romchikthelemon
    @Romchikthelemon 2 роки тому +3

    2:54 well, this is just different approach, see no problem with it. It was 1982, don't forget, there was no "rules" for reissues as well as for boxsets. On the other hand, I get deadly bored with the sea of nowadays reissues having the same old artwork - this is cheap-pop and lazy move at the same time.

  • @mercurialmagictrees
    @mercurialmagictrees 2 роки тому +1

    I'm happy I just purchased vintage U.K and U.S mono and stereo pressings.
    I don't really like box sets so I am a bit biased.

  • @tenej6992
    @tenej6992 2 роки тому +8

    Yea I heard they used the master tapes for Magical Mystery tour where the last three songs with in duophonics. I have an original Japanese pressing which contains that mix and it sounds horrible. Last three songs are absolutely unhearable. I have no idea what they were thinking, but sadly MoFi got the wrong master tapes and they remastered those. Apart from those three songs though, everything else sounds great!

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion 2 роки тому

      You need the German Horzu copy for true stereo of those 3 songs!
      ua-cam.com/video/gbZ1BTGDtcU/v-deo.html

  • @bpabustan
    @bpabustan 2 роки тому +9

    Probably because I was born in the 70s, I don't enjoy listening to any recording in mono (unless there is no way to create a true stereo version of a recording). For me, the 2012 stereo reissue is a godsend. MoFi is expensive for my budget. So I'd rather collect the albums individually which I eventually did.

    • @sgtpepper1138
      @sgtpepper1138 2 роки тому +3

      I generally prefer stereo as well.

    • @bpabustan
      @bpabustan 2 роки тому +5

      @@sgtpepper1138 stereo helps me a lot in figuring out what's happening in the recording.

    • @800series
      @800series 2 роки тому +3

      Me neither! Mono sounds like mud!

  • @bigchief8493
    @bigchief8493 2 роки тому +10

    I got really into vinyl collecting after seeing your series of videos on The Wall and then finding out i somehow had a miraculously intact original US pressing of The Who’s Quadrophenia in my possession.
    I find it to be a really enjoyable hobby, thank you!
    Note: Have you heard the new mix of Pink Floyd’s Dogs, if so: what are your opinions of it?

    • @barstow_
      @barstow_ 2 роки тому +2

      its so strange after being used to the old one for so long haha

  • @zer0tzer0
    @zer0tzer0 2 роки тому +1

    You may see the Capitol Stereo release in America as wonky, but that's how we remember them. So I prefer it to the corrected releases. It's like George Lucas going back to fix Star Wars movies. It may seem fixed to him, and his original intent. But to me, it's just f*cking with my memories.

  • @Primodummy92
    @Primodummy92 2 роки тому +2

    Please do a video on Steely Dan's new Analogue Productions releases!

  • @makeshiftocean8611
    @makeshiftocean8611 2 роки тому +8

    I really got into vinyl after the Mono set was already pressed and sold out and haven’t been able to find any listings for any reasonable price. Desperately hoping for a repress someday soon 🙏

  • @matthewshelbourne9560
    @matthewshelbourne9560 2 роки тому +5

    Regarding the 2014 Mono versions of the Beatle albums, most of the A side of Yellow Submarine is on the Mono Masters. They just didn't release the non Beatle orchestral B side. Yellow Submarine and All You Need Is Love are on other albums. Also, it was the Record Companies in the early 60's that didn't care about the stereo versions. of the

  • @angrycat3525
    @angrycat3525 2 роки тому +2

    The absolute LAST thing I need is to buy ANOTHER Beatles album when I still have the original vinyl in excellent condition!
    And here's why:
    Every time I hear a "remastered" song, I wonder if the remastering "engineers" even bothered to listen to the original recording.
    Some fade in too late or fade out too soon.
    Others pile on additional tracks that were excluded from the official recording.* Maybe those tracks were not compatible with vinyl cutting technology of the day. Perhaps the engineer thought, "Oh, they'll hear THIS in a different way now!"
    Only one problem:
    Most of us know what we grew up with. And unless we're being forced to listen to these "new and improved" as part of a discipline program in a re-education camp, it's pointless.
    Boy, I'm so glad I don't use Twitter!

  • @Roland314
    @Roland314 2 роки тому +1

    I think this is bad advice.
    If you are looking to get good stereo pressings, the 2012 remasters sound very good. People liked to dump on them because they were digitally sourced, but they used the high definition masters to cut the lacquers and the records sound really good. The EQ has more bass and drums than the originals, so that's a matter of taste. The Mofi Set, like the Blue Box or the 2014 Mono Box are for hardcore fans that value having different mixes. If all you want is the original sound and are on a budget, the 2012s are a solid solution.
    As for the MoFi mixes, they're different sure, but it's a matter of taste on how good or bad they are. I think it varies by album, honestly. The White Album is great, in my opinion, as is Let it Be. Abbey Road is only fine. But again, this is down to taste and looking for these pressings is really only worth it if you're someone who is looking for something that sounds unique anyhow. And for that, they ARE unique and ARE high quality records. So, YMMV, but I have many, many different pressings of most of the Beatles output, and cannot understand why people dump on the 2012 remasters. Judge with your ears, not with what people on forums tell you.

  • @c.f.mixolydian8926
    @c.f.mixolydian8926 2 роки тому +7

    I know it’s wishful thinking, but I would LOVE to see the Beatles catalogue given the modern audiophile treatment. I have The Beach Boys Analogue Productions pressings and I am absolutely blown away at their quality. If we could get something like that for the Beatles, I would be set!

  • @Levdrekinn
    @Levdrekinn 2 роки тому +10

    Even though it's a bummer that the source used for the 2012 Vinyl Stereo Remasters were digital files, what's a big major dud is that they legit had the audacity to down sample the 192khz/24bit files they made to friggin' 44khz/24bit and used those for their Apple USB and for the vinyl pressings themselves. Like there's absolutely no point in even owning these copies whatsoever.

    • @stephencooke4569
      @stephencooke4569 2 роки тому

      I have the 2012 stereo box, which thankfully didn't cost me anything (it was a promo), and the sound is noticeably poor. The first LP I put on was A Hard Day's Night, and I could hear digital distortion in the sound, compared to my '70s vinyl pressing and CD copy. I've heard other LPs in the set sound better, but that was a shocking discovery.

    • @xxEzraBxxx
      @xxEzraBxxx 2 роки тому +2

      all the editing was done on the 24b 44khz, 44khz is a good sample rate, and you can’t tell between digital and analog on vinyl anyway (no matter what analog audiophile priests say)

    • @Levdrekinn
      @Levdrekinn 2 роки тому

      @@xxEzraBxxx still lame

    • @xxEzraBxxx
      @xxEzraBxxx 2 роки тому

      @@Levdrekinn in the best world, the 24b 44khz (although i would rather do 48khz) could be on the usb, and the 24b 192khz on vinyl

    • @Levdrekinn
      @Levdrekinn 2 роки тому

      @@xxEzraBxxx That's what everybody would've been fine with. I'm someone who's not against digital on vinyl.

  • @custardpie69
    @custardpie69 2 роки тому +4

    I have no wish to diss a fellow collector but I detect a distinct case of “sour grapes” with this video

  • @DarkSideOfThePepper
    @DarkSideOfThePepper 2 роки тому +2

    I bought the Beatles Mono Masters 2014 3LP release and the 45RPM Abbey Road Let It Be Boxset. Everyone is whispering since the Stones in Mono popped up on UK Amazon for a few weeks that Beatles Mono Boxset might get a reissue. I will be all over that if it happens.

  • @nephrodoc4120
    @nephrodoc4120 2 роки тому +1

    I have the mono box. Don’t think it’s worth the $$$ people are paying for it.

  • @theo9952
    @theo9952 2 роки тому +8

    One way or the other, after buying lots of beatles records, remixes, remasters, cds, vhs, dvds etc, I have NO MONEY to buy music anymore, no matter what they sell and how they pack it. Plus I am pushing 70 now and I won't be taking any of it with me when I kick the bucket. So there.

    • @mercurialmagictrees
      @mercurialmagictrees 2 роки тому +1

      You could sell physical music you own and buy something else with the profits.
      However just enjoying the music you like any way possible is what matters most.

    • @theo9952
      @theo9952 2 роки тому

      @@mercurialmagictrees I have already sold more than half of my LP collection. I love my records and keep them like new, but the truth is that I have been listening to CDs for the last 20 years or so and hardly ever bother playing vinyl records. Maybe i wouldn't sell them if i didn't need the money, maybe I would keep them just to look at them, but like you said, it is the music itself which matters most and I can keep that as long as I am still around.

  • @ReasonablySane
    @ReasonablySane 2 роки тому +5

    I think you're exactly right that the picture of the tapes should have been on the inside and not on the main covers. That being said when the Beatles first Rose to popularity, I was in fourth grade and my friends and I even had a pretend band where I "played" drums made out of Quaker oats containers. And also, after Let it be came out I lived in Seattle and there was a simulcast between I believe it was King tv and both King radio stations including FM and AM and when they played that on the TV I had everything set up. One channel sound came out of the TV two came out of the stereo FM and a fourth channel came out of am radio. I was so excited for it to come out, but I wasn't impressed with the sound at all sadly. My fanaticism and that sort of stuff did end up with me being a HiFi salesman though in the 70s and early 80s. 🤣
    I've got about 3,500 LPS and most of the Beatles albums but, frankly, I'm pretty burned out on their stuff. Comically I even picked up a record in a big box of records I bought at an estate sale in Seattle about 14 years ago that had an album with just a plain white cover and the word pepper written in pen in one corner. I pulled the record out and it was a mofi record that only had grooves on one side. I pop the needle on it and was one side of Sergeant pepper. Sounded perfect obviously, but once I realized what it was I took the needle off and put it back in the container. I'll probably sell it one day once I get my music room done.
    By the way, I did take some design hints from your room tour. I'm the guy that was blown away by it and I still am. I'm a privately send you some pictures in email once it's all done. A friend of mine last month gave me an old ice bucket and it is coincidentally the exact same one on your bar. I love that thing.

    • @mod.3x
      @mod.3x 2 роки тому

      Thee must buy more records

  • @fbt25
    @fbt25 2 роки тому +1

    Do the individual Mofi albums use the same matrixes as the ones on the box set?

  • @Emlizardo
    @Emlizardo 2 роки тому +2

    "Vinyl was never any good anyway." Rudy Van Gelder

    • @iamnobody2
      @iamnobody2 2 роки тому

      he managed to make all those records with his initials on them sound damn good nonetheless

  • @cristianasilva6127
    @cristianasilva6127 2 роки тому +3

    what's the best way to listen to the Beatles digitally? in terms of audio quality/mix. the amount of versions leave me so confused

  • @mikejeffries8630
    @mikejeffries8630 2 роки тому +2

    Nice video, but towards the end you make a brief comparison of the “mixes” on the 2012 stereo vinyl boxset with the mofi. However, they are the same mixes; it’s the remastering that is different.

  • @billleary5779
    @billleary5779 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for sharing this. I own the Mobile Fidelity set which I bought in 2008 just prior to the remaster series. I think the set is okay but I prefer the BC13 set or some German pressings of Magical Mystery Tour,Please Please Me or Revolver from the mid 1970s which all sound great. I do have the 2012 stereo box but I don’t listen to it that much….more of a collector piece. The Mono box from 2014 is top notch and I am glad I got it when it came out. Another release from 2014 that went under the radar was the re-release of the Red and Blue album collections from 1973. These are stereo all analog from Sean Magee based off Harry Moss’s cutting notes and they sound amazing…..makes you hope that Apple will do the same for the whole collection…probably not but there’s always hope. Thanks again.

  • @garyhunt8067
    @garyhunt8067 2 роки тому +1

    Too expensive. Happy to get the CD both Stereo and mono

  • @SpeedyMcGhee
    @SpeedyMcGhee 2 роки тому +2

    Your video is always so timely. I just bought the Blue box for $400. No one says anything good about the MOFI box sound. I have the 2014 mono albums. I should be set. Thanks for all you do.

  • @thomascars1
    @thomascars1 2 роки тому +1

    I guess the new trend is to just piss all over Mobile Fidelity. Honestly, good. MFSL pre 2000’s had some pretty awful releases having some terrible mastering choices. Past 2000, although good, there are many options that are cheaper and sound either as good or even better.
    MFSL’s 1982 pressing of Led Zeppelin II is a travesty, it’s extremely bass heavy to the point where it’s distracting.
    MFSL’s 2015 pressing of Love’s “Forever Changes” is so boring and costs triple of the 2012 pressing, which is AAA and was cut by the master Chris Bellman. Go figure, the CB cut is 10 times better.
    MFSL was and still is pretty overrated imo. Analogue Productions for the win

  • @starsdream2
    @starsdream2 2 роки тому +2

    I think that the original mixes of the Beatles songs had a kind of magic that took their music to where it was. The new mixes for the Beatles songs in general have taken down the specialness that was there before, which is a great shame. This is just my opinion.😊

  • @johnholmes912
    @johnholmes912 2 роки тому +1

    I bought the albums in the 60s, I see no need to buy them again.

  • @browe
    @browe 2 роки тому +20

    I had the 'In Mono' set, loaned it to a colleague, and then I never got it back. 😟 This was well before it mattered (price increasing.) That was my definitive Beatles collection--hearing Sgt. Pepper's was simply revelatory.

  • @init4fun
    @init4fun 2 роки тому +6

    The MFSL mixes used “smiley-face” EQ, meaning, if you’ve ever seen a graphic equalizer, the low and high frequencies are boosted, which really aren’t indicative of the intended EMI sound reproductions. I have several and there’s often a good amount of sibilance on the high frequencies. I don’t care for EQ’s, so, if you’re a purist, stay away from the Beatles MFSL Box Set or individual albums. You’ll be just as disappointed. If you have to go vinyl, get the Mono Box Set, as there wasn’t any compression used, as was prevalent in the 2009 remastered releases.

  • @hankforeman91
    @hankforeman91 2 роки тому +2

    Good thing I got the Mono box set when I did 5 years ago.

  • @douglasbarbiero634
    @douglasbarbiero634 2 роки тому +4

    I bought the stereo set when it came out. I transferred them to metal cassettes and played them extensively. Enjoyed them until the CD’s came out. I travel a lot
    and cassettes no longer were in cars. Played them until X Fm started. Everyone nowadays seems so crazy about versions and quality and play them through their iPhones…..

  • @capitolemiproducer
    @capitolemiproducer 8 місяців тому

    I'll be very frank. When it comes to Sonics, I prefer the hands down the Japanese box set with the German Magical Mystery Tour. The Japanese take audio very seriously, like the Germans do. To.this day, not even the Ads come close to that. The Mo-Fi pressing seem weak and flat compared to the Japanese stuff

  • @BCZF
    @BCZF 2 роки тому +1

    Didnt MFSL do the gold cd's? I think I have a Dark Side of the Moon that they remastered.

  • @DanandJoeMusic
    @DanandJoeMusic 2 роки тому +1

    I agree that Blue BC-13 box is great! Totally worth the money. I found one in my local store a few years ago for $300 or so. All-analog cuts, and many that sound better than the original, more expensive first pressings. As far as MoFi goes, they are all awful. Terrible "smiley face" EQ, almost clinical sounding. I would say some are better than others, but always steer way clear of the MFSL Magical Mystery Tour. It was cut from a copy of a copy of a dub tape. EMI sent over a UK copy of the US Capitol master, which itself was a dub tape of the UK master tapes that made up the album. Insane, right? The best sounding MMT is the German Hör-Zu with A1/B3 matrices. That + the 2014 mono box + the BC-13 box = sonic nirvana!

  • @louissilvani1389
    @louissilvani1389 2 роки тому +2

    Playing mono with a pure mono cartridge for me is the way to go 😊

  • @tombodensick4437
    @tombodensick4437 Рік тому

    Missing MEET THE BEATLES...the album that along with the single I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND really launched BEATLEMANIA. Sorry, but in the U.S. the group was unknown before this iconic album and song.

  • @referenceanalog
    @referenceanalog 2 роки тому +1

    I have the mono box and though it was very mediocre. I also have the mofi stereo box and it’s the best stereo versions I have heard.

  • @JaredLekites
    @JaredLekites Місяць тому

    I fully believe that people were only impressed by MFSL Beatles albums back in the day because of A) the quality and presentation of the vinyl itself and B) because the sound was so overly bright that it 'tricked' people's ears into seeming clearer and more detailed when in reality it was just like playing back a regular Beatles album with the treble jacked all the way up.
    Then when The Beatles catalog first arrived on CD, we got a more accurate picture of what the master tapes *should* sound like and it quickly became apparent that the MFSL LPs did not, in fact, represent that sound at all.

  • @beatlefancraig67
    @beatlefancraig67 9 місяців тому

    Honestly you cannot beat the original Beatles Collection blue box?, for any die-hard music fan it is the most definitive collection of The Beatles cos it's better value for money than the more ridiculously expensive MFSL or Mono box sets, the blue box was originally released as BC13 in the U.K 🇬🇧 & everywhere else around the world including Australia 🇦🇺 where the "With The Beatles" & "Beatles For Sale" albums were released on alternative (and now collectable) album covers that differ to other countries, plus the sound quality of the blue box is pristine cos it's all original analogue recordings, the blue box is a winner for any die-hard collector.

  • @retronartz1268
    @retronartz1268 2 роки тому +1

    I’m seeing a whole lot of bad things about Mofi lately… strange

  • @rjaraneta913
    @rjaraneta913 2 роки тому

    For their time they were decent? No, Mo-Fi's were not! The original UK pressings from the 60's were superior! Even the 70's UK & German pressings were superior. Dare I say it? Even the original 60's & later 70's Japanese pressings were superior to Mo-Fi's! Several of the Mo-Fi Beatles albums used the inferior Capitol submasters, yet their banner on top of the individual albums stated, "Original Master Recordings". Even from the early days, Mo-Fi was not forthcoming with the source material used! I sold all my Mo-Fi Beatles and Lennon "Imagine" during the 80's. They were not worth what I paid for them when new and they were not worth keeping either.

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 2 роки тому

    I recently got Get Back video set....it is good...but Thay keep moving away from the Rooftop Concert!!!....the Footage could of been better!!!!

  • @Onteo1
    @Onteo1 2 роки тому +1

    The MFSL box set from 82 sounded good back in the day, it is by no means my go to for everyday play. I bought all the 1982 Japanese red vinyl mono lps and Didn’t bother with the recent box set. I did buy a few single copies. The 82 set were taken from the UK masters. They did the same thing with the Stones Box set, all the covers were red with a booklet included. Since the recent Mofi controversy I’ve wondered how did they press 20,000 of this set? Stampers are good for 5,000 copies so did they use the tape 4 times? As I recall they pressed 5000 and stopped. Sales were good so,another 5000 were pressed and so on. Good topic.

  • @ianpurnell4752
    @ianpurnell4752 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoy your channel. I have the MoFi box set, but rarely listen to it. I bought it more to add to my collection. My go to sets are the BC-13 UK box and the Mono Vinyl box

  • @novangoghmusicofficial
    @novangoghmusicofficial 8 місяців тому

    I’ve always thought that the Mobile Fidelity pressings were overrated. I have a lot of BC13 box sets. My favorite is the Italian set. Every album sounds awesome.

  • @myyootube2
    @myyootube2 2 роки тому

    When I hear the term remaster, I think the remix. It is isn't it? Even if it's only done with EQ. It's always a new "mix". And you might like what they do or you may not. MFSL always worked from original master tapes, and you pay extra for that. But the EQ choices they made still have a profound effect on the outcome. Perhaps in some cases those choices could have an even bigger effect on the mix than whether an original master or tape copy was used. Their claim was that many many albums were being produced by major labels on vinyl and then on CD from tape copies, due to laziness, filing and storage ineptness on the part of those labels. I worked at MFSL for a year (not in mastering, I was in marketing), but I cannot confirm or deny that claim. Certainly though, to get a great analog product, you need to work from a first generation master tape, and they did produce some great "remasters". You like what you like, but last food for thought, most of us will never have that $10,000 stereo with multiple turntables and inputs and magic button where we can do the perfect A/B test to compare formats and mixes anyway. In fact, I sat in Herb's office and listened to an album or so on his $10,000 stereo, and even he didn't have that magic button! Ha Ha Ha

  • @F4O2R7D
    @F4O2R7D Рік тому

    LOL, so you tell people not to buy issues of box sets you don't even own, great input. I'll just say this, what sounds good to someone is very subjective and with records will be very system dependent as well. But to tell people not to buy something like the MFSL box set is way off base considering how many different masterings they did with the Beatles records. Take a look on Discogs and see how many different lacquer cuts where done for each title that where put out individually with the cover art. Off hand I don't know if any of the individual record Matrix numbers even match the box set numbers at all, but different matrix numbers equal different masterings. With the Beatles is one of the rarest issues of theirs they did because the last plates got damaged and they couldn't get the tapes again to cut more lacquers. If you look at an individual copy of this title, it's price is about a third of the box set price alone, and you get it in the box. Anyway I have this MFSL box set, the complete set of the individual issues sealed and open, the UK and Japan Blue box sets, the 2012 stereo, 2014 mono sets as well as all the anniversary deluxe titles. None of them are bad, just different from each other, that's all, and glad I own them all without any regrets, nore would I dissuade anyone from buying any of them.

  • @bobgoldesberry7740
    @bobgoldesberry7740 2 роки тому

    I have two of those Mono box sets oi bought brand new and they BOTH have SKIPS and tiny warps on different albums. And out of both sets did not even make one good set. BIG MONEY BIG FAIL

  • @michaellord9745
    @michaellord9745 Рік тому

    I have the independent Mo-Fi releases of The White Album and Abbey Road. I've always thought they sound really good but they are both in "minty" condition so perhaps that's the difference from what you've experienced. Kicking myself for not buying the vinyl mono box set back in the day, and now the cost is prohibitive. Now that the Rolling Stones mono box set has been re-released maybe The Beatles mono box set will get re-released also? I know that one has nothing to do with the other but the demand for it is more than there, that's for sure. Have you heard anything about a Beatles mono box set on vinyl re-release?

  • @goodiesguy
    @goodiesguy Рік тому

    Normally MFSL releases great product, The Beatles discs are the exception.

  • @sebastianpiazza796
    @sebastianpiazza796 Рік тому

    I totally agree, I am not a real tech guy but I could hear the difference. After wasting my hard earned money on all the reboots, remixes, even going as far as trying to take the best of the UK mixes and US mixes and downloading them on thumbdrive then even on my old 4 trk ampex reel to reel machine I purchased "the Beatles in mono" which I perfer on cd. My turntable needed to be upgraded to the 20 century. I.was really pleased. I'm not going to nit pick But I was totally happy. Even on my head phones it sounds great. I know the Beatles especially John liked mono I agree.

  • @martygould5114
    @martygould5114 Рік тому

    I was born in 1961. I've been collecting all of my life. My Beatles LPs were all bought individually over the years. I don't need a box set.

  • @tinpanalley5856
    @tinpanalley5856 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad I bought them all in mono on each release . $ 2.79 that's all I could afford as a kid.

  • @glennk1931
    @glennk1931 2 роки тому +1

    Really enjoy your videos. I bought the MFSL box set back in 1983. As far as the sound quality (at that time) was a big improvement. Yes they have refined the mixes over the years. Just played my Abbey Road MFSL pressing a few days ago. I bought that in 82 I believe. That pressing still sounds fantastic IMHO. The biggest complaint that I had was the lack of the low end, on the Capitol pressings. Had good equipment at that time too. The British imports were a game changer. (Another story). I started buying them back in the early 70’s. I would love to purchase the mono box set on vinyl, but the cost is almost prohibitive. My bad for not buying one at its initial release. I do own the cd mono set. 🎸

  • @CraigBickerstaff
    @CraigBickerstaff 2 роки тому +1

    It's a shame they won't print more of the mono records, that box set has pretty much doubled in value since I bought it.Though annoyingly my mono masters was a little bit warped, I guess I could track down a single at some stage if I could be bothered though. Even the Stereo box set has gone way up in value, I bought that one just for the book but they were still in stock when I got mine so I got it for whatever the original price of the box was. I think the MFSL box really is just for hardcore collectors at this stage.

  • @beatlemania2006
    @beatlemania2006 2 роки тому +1

    I happened to come across the Blue Box BC13 set and the Mobile Fidelity set at a record store recently. Luckily, I went for the BC13.

  • @debessar95
    @debessar95 2 роки тому +1

    The Beatles In Mono vinyl box set 2014 got a digital treatment as they mentioned in leaflet for Please Please Me. Thus, this is not an analog mastering at all. Don't be fooled by the name. All the vinyl purists have been exposed as a bunch of liars.

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 2 роки тому

    Those Mobile Sound albums not a big deal!!!....I have heard them....no separation in the sound channels!!!

  • @steveyonkman
    @steveyonkman 2 роки тому +1

    I’ll stick with my original parlophone uk presses. Great stuff though love the channel!

  • @johnryan3913
    @johnryan3913 2 роки тому

    The Mofi covers with the tapes are not original masters. It is the SAME picture of the SAME tape on every album cover!

  • @johnupdate
    @johnupdate 2 роки тому +1

    I love the 2018 Version of the white Album its sonuds so conteporary! And the bass sound is way better imho (maybe it‘s because paul was involved in the remix?😉)

  • @darthwarren4599
    @darthwarren4599 Рік тому

    I just got my mono cd set for 80 bucks and im so happy with it. Im in the process of uploading all my cds to my plex server for listening outside of the house

  • @gregsnarke610
    @gregsnarke610 4 місяці тому

    Same thing that’s why I got the Beatles red and blue cd 💿 albums I got them for my birthday last month I’m happy with them 👍

  • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
    @JohnSmith-zl8rz 2 роки тому

    I hate videos like this that alerts amateurs what buy, so prices up. Real audiophiles don’t need UA-camrs to tell what to buy.

  • @bobromano7548
    @bobromano7548 2 роки тому +2

    If I remember correctly the MOFI versions kind of use the smiley EQ which have boosted highs and lows and less in the midst.

    • @stephencooke4569
      @stephencooke4569 2 роки тому

      This was covered in a Parlogram Auctions video a while back. Such a weird way to remaster those records. I only have a handful of MoFi releases from that era, and the pressings are fantastic, but some of their decisions presaged how CDs would be remastered years later.

  • @mikegriffin4425
    @mikegriffin4425 2 роки тому +1

    The 2009 stereo vinyl box gets bashed because it's "cut from digital" so like every Mofi for the past 10 years. I compared the 2009 vinyl stereo and mono Revolver versions and they both sound good. The fake stereo is a little off putting but all in all they sound more alike than different. The stereo box is getting an undeserved bad rap imho

  • @MrJimiJam
    @MrJimiJam 2 роки тому

    The MFSL Beatles catalog are not re-masters using the original mixes. They are remixed from the original master tapes.

  • @stevebird9510
    @stevebird9510 2 роки тому

    From everything I've heard , Mo Fi is garbage. I won't waste my money on it.

  • @noscrubbubblez6515
    @noscrubbubblez6515 2 роки тому

    "She Said She Said' has a nosebleed high droning organ note all thru the song. I have not heard it since the 1980's. Anyone heard it lately?

  • @deusdedithkojiuchino9349
    @deusdedithkojiuchino9349 2 роки тому

    I don´t buy this box set because is very expensive your price and sound seen half empty,so the songs styed strange when hear on cd,with this version.

  • @tobyjackman3212
    @tobyjackman3212 2 роки тому

    Why wouldn't you want the original album art 🙄
    For me for the first 3 albums at least you're insane not to listen in mono

  • @bobsoldrecords1503
    @bobsoldrecords1503 2 роки тому +1

    I bought the mono box as individual albums, as I was working at a crap job at the time and couldn't afford it in one go. I made sure to get an extra Sgt. Pepper, knowing that it would go up in value once the press run was over.

  • @monetfaversham6703
    @monetfaversham6703 4 місяці тому

    I like this video. You come across as a likeable and credible person who knows his stuff

  • @ianz9916
    @ianz9916 2 роки тому +1

    I picked up the BC13 UK blue box set for £200 which is under $240 so I think I did pretty well.

    • @christopherrigby2798
      @christopherrigby2798 2 роки тому

      It is just the late 70's early 80's pressing rounded up and boxed which do sound really good even the vinyl is a bit thin. I have them bought seperately and wouldn't change them for any later stereo set. I have the Mono 2014's - pure analogue perfection writ large.

  • @AK_0000
    @AK_0000 4 місяці тому

    That mono box set is so expensive it’s not longer really worth it at 2-3 thousand dollars

  • @TheHSIHP
    @TheHSIHP 5 місяців тому

    I just bought most of the albums from the Blue Box. I'm happy with those!

  • @Plarocks
    @Plarocks 2 роки тому +1

    I grew up with my dad’s original US red apple copy of Let It Be.
    The Mo-Fi version that I bought sounded FANTASTIC. Really was the first time that album actually sounded right to me.

  • @projectpat006
    @projectpat006 10 місяців тому

    Look for the white UK vinyl of Let It Be. Best pressing of that album out there

  • @OstaraBooks
    @OstaraBooks 2 роки тому

    You have a vintage look going on. I did a double take and thought you were my father lol

  • @leonardoiglesias2394
    @leonardoiglesias2394 7 місяців тому

    When someone says I dont like it because its digital I just stop watching and listening.

  • @OGeniusTheFirst
    @OGeniusTheFirst 2 роки тому +1

    No foreplay on this vid, felt kind of like a rant more than an informative video. Props to your research / craft!

  • @debessar95
    @debessar95 2 роки тому +1

    I did not understand why the MFSL box should be so strongly avoided. What is wrong with it except of the white modern sleeves? By the way, it is pretty much clear reason for what they has done. The Beatles UK LP covers were designed using pictures of the group with too much retouch to it. As a result they had never been a real piece of art. So why bother keeping them?

    • @johnryan3913
      @johnryan3913 2 роки тому

      They did not use the original master tapes. The covers are a picture of ONE tape on every album cover

  • @davidwelch5186
    @davidwelch5186 2 роки тому

    The beatles are free on youtube. Why buy a cd? I don’t buy music anymore . Seems stupid to me.

  • @johnlupo3919
    @johnlupo3919 7 місяців тому

    MUST YOU KEEP SAYING "SO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @spudwas
    @spudwas 2 роки тому +1

    What is your opinion of the sound quality of SACD? Rolling Stones for example.

    • @johnryan3913
      @johnryan3913 2 роки тому +1

      I'm not him, but they are exceptional and received almost universal praise when they were released. Best ever sound including original mono and stereo on 12x5, Now!, etc.

  • @stevephilipczak1464
    @stevephilipczak1464 8 місяців тому

    So, if you're hunting down this now semi-unobtanium, obscenely over-priced mono set, and planning to play it with a with a stereo cartridge.... you'd be just as well off taking a stereo set you already have, and just use the damn mono switch on your receiver or pre-amp (if it has one....)

    • @Slammintone
      @Slammintone 3 місяці тому

      That’s not even remotely going to sound like the Mono mixes. Been there done that. Fold down stereo to mono is not equivalent.
      Playing the mono records with a stereo cartridge works fine since the mono cutter heads used since the last 50yrs or so use the same type and size cutter as stereo cutter head units.

  • @stratmad
    @stratmad 2 роки тому +1

    Bought the mono cd box and was on the fence about the mono lp set but glad I ponied up and bought it before it was gone. It sounds so good.

  • @tombodensick4437
    @tombodensick4437 Рік тому

    ...pick up a clean mono copy of MEET THE BEATLES

  • @scottplagmann3411
    @scottplagmann3411 6 місяців тому

    It's one of the best boxed sets available....period

  • @collierparker8213
    @collierparker8213 2 роки тому

    The Mono goes for 1,200 dollars in discogs...

  • @rkmklz7562
    @rkmklz7562 6 місяців тому

    What is the difference...it depends on the system U use?😮

  • @t.j.murray5498
    @t.j.murray5498 2 роки тому

    For whatever reason that tie reminds me of Spongebob.

  • @michaelhiggins6462
    @michaelhiggins6462 2 роки тому +4

    Very amazing! Beatle records can and are treasures .I have the mobile fidelity box set, and I recall that John Lennon had stated about the Sargent Peppers album was way better in mono, and that says lot.