This Cinelli hobootleg gets upgraded for a cycling trip in Thailand - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- We Examine this Cinelli Hobootleg to get a footing on where to start with the upgrades. We take a quick look at this modern steel frame adventure bike to review some of the aspects that make this frame a great candidate for this particular use. This being part 1, I will give an overview of what we are starting with which should help define what is advantageous and what can get gone.
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Hey, amateur randonneur here, from Italy, i'd have a remark/objection to this. Cables running below the top tube prevent me to carry the bike on my shoulder, with a common triangular mtb bag (with a padded strap, like most have) or i would press and stress those cables.
Which surprises me of Cinelli, cos their basic model, Hobo (this year it'sred and called Hobootleg Deore Mix) has all the three cables running ABOVE the top tube. Which then can be easily protected from sweat etc., if one whishes to at all, with a top tube pad or bag.
Also surprises me that their middle range model, lighter than this mtb/monstercross Geo, but with discs unlike the basic Hobo, and I mean the Hobootleg Easy Travel, has cables below the top tube as well. And they even feature a website pic with a guy carryjng it on mountain obstacles on his shoulder.
It will be done most of the times, but really, would you sleep 100% fine knowing you're stretching and stressing the rear disc AND EVEN the rear derailleur cable?
I wouldn't.
Most classic English touring bikes, the real "mothers of gravellers", have the rear rim brake running below top tube. I have it on one such bike and still works fine. But on discs and derailleurs it would worry me. Also, not ideal to rub the cable hard against the tube while carrying.
One reason to choose the basic Hobo, imho.
But this is all really a question and happy to hear anyone's thoughts.
@dorianblue4229 I see your point on most issue here but this bike will not be carried on the shoulder at any point. The owner specifically does not like hike a bike type routes so this will not see any terrain where that would be necessary. The other point, as to english Rando's being the real predecessor to gravel, I think you and I have a different view on what gravel means. For me when I see gravel events they are timed competitions so speed is of the utmost importance. Gravel has veered from being associated with bikepacking or adventuring and is now a sport like cyclocross. The bikes are very light and aerodynamic which are the priorities of a race bike not a tourer or randdoneur. Secondly I could not draw a straight line between the British randos and gravel without first crossing through MTB and cyclocross. So much of frame design, riding technic, tire design was pulled from MTB to create gravel that I would say without MTB gravel wouldn't exist.
gravel bike ASMR 😄
That frame is a work of art!
...with a clear 'made in Taiwan' sticker on it...
As far as I know, you can mount a cable wheel on the seat tube which turns the top pull for the front derailleur into a bottom pull - compatible with road groupsets plus GRX, etc. Right?
I actually think this choice of top pull can be defended for a touring bike, since it seems to be a deliverate decision to run full-lenght cable housing for weather proofing. If it was bottom pull, you would often get the cable end holder at the back of the seat tube but pointing UP, meaning dirt from the tire and elsewhere easily goes into the cable housing and thus requires much more maintenance and changing the cables and housings much more often. This latter design is flawed in my opinion.
What do you think?
Thats a good point about weather sealing, however my point was more about the options available. So if you wanted to go with 11 spd shimano sti levers you have no option of corresponding front derailleur that would work for you. You would have to use distinctly different groups to make it work and they may not give the precise shifting that you would want. I will post the second half of this vid with the install. I went with the GRX front derailleur as it has the option for a full housing run with the cable stop at the derailleur, so i routed the housing along the rear brake cable and under the BB. I would have liked to use the braze-ons for routing but for me the full cable run was the option with the least amount of potential failures.
Hi! I need a advice from you guys. I am thinking about buying a Cinelli Hobootleg Interrail but I'm not sure the tire clearance is enough for a fully loaded touring on rough terrain? What do you think? Is it safe to run 700x42 on this bike, or will it leave few clearance onnthe chainstays?
So, I think you hit on the biggest drawback of this frame. Its not to say you cant run bigger than 35 but weighted on rough terrain is a different story. In that situation the likelihood that you knock the rim slightly out of alignment is fairly high and with a tire clearance that close, immediately you are rubbing the inside of the chainstay for sure. I like the frame a lot but for me I see its optimum use more towards lighter touring. For rough terrain you just cant beat a bigger footprint and this frame wont get you there unfortunately. Hope that helps.
@@TheUndeadMechanic Thank you very much for your advice, I'll consider it for sure! Maybe a Surly Disc trucker would be better for my needs
@@DavideStocco dont forget the kona sutra
@@TheUndeadMechanic But... Would it be a bad idea to try installing 650b tires and thus allowing for a greater tire width? Do you think it could work on this frame?
@@DavideStocco in this particular case, i think not really. Just because the rationale for using a 650, as i see it, would be that the chain stays widen as it gets closer to the dropout. So a wheel of lesser diameter in theory puts you further from the narrower part of the stays and the BB and the brake bridge. However it puts you closer to the end of the dimpled area of the chain stay which is the widest opening and means you really arent gaining the width that you need. Mentioning all this, i didnt try it so I cant say for certain it wouldn't get you what you are looking for. A little background. I was building fixed gears when people were obsessed with tight fits and realized that its impractical. Everything you run over gets stuck in the gap and can create an issue. Then i saw it in muddy situations where it causes clumping and blockage. So while i do love the ability of a builder to stick to tight tolerances, too tight is just overkill. Unless of course the bike is strictly for the velodrome. Hope that helps.
Awesome 🤙🤙🤙
I think that gravel bikes should ditch the top pull fds, there isnt that much need for cable protection as in mtb
all the treking bike on this range of price are well made bro, not only cinelli
Cinelli, being the only well made treking frame in its price range is not something that was ever mentioned or inferred in the video. In contrast the Brodie Romulus, which I featured in a different video, is in the same price range and is not nearly at the same level as the Cinelli.