This week I got to test drive a new TRD Sport Tacoma at my local dealer. It had just about every option and stickered at just over $53k. Here are some of the things i noticed... Pros: - The interior build quality, a known sore spot for most midsize trucks, feels and sounds very solid in most areas - The large touchscreen is well integrated and doesn't feel tacked on, or obstruct the driver's view of the road - The bed is very deep and has useful integrated storage and plug-in options - The ability to lower and raise the tailgate with a touch of the tail-light button on EITHER side is awesome - Cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel, not a stock, and are easy to use - The front cupholders are East and West orientated, no reaching over the shifter to grab your beverage. Yay! - Physical climate and lighting controls. Yay - Great power, although it is buried deep in the pedal. Toyota definitely wants you to drive this thing like an elderly person. - Decent door pocket storage! Unlike the GM twins which have next to none... - Good storage under the rear seats - Wide-opening glovebox - Front tow hooks. Yay! - Fold down rear seats - Adjustable projector headlights - Power rear sliding window (some competitors are manual only) - Power seat controls, including lumbar, on both front seats is awesome - Finally, plenty of headroom! At last my 6'3" frame can fit in a Tacoma! Cons: - You really do have to bury your foot in the gas pedal if you want to get anywhere anytime soon... - The door pockets are very thin and flimsy, just like the Tundra - Speaking of the Tundra, there is no place to put your foot on the bumper when the tailgate is down (the Frontier also fails here) - The 4wd shifter absolutely DIGS into my leg. Lowering the seat helps, but puts me in the same awkward seating position of the last gen Taco - Partly because of this, I could not find a comfortable seating position. My 15 minute test drive left me aching and sore. - No fold down rear cup holders... I think it is the only one in the class without them! - No rear climate vents (Frontier and Ranger also lack them, GM twins, Ridgeline, and Gladiator all have them) - Center console storage is shallow and lackluster. The Frontiers is almost twice as deep! - Not sure what the point of the complex rear coil suspension is, still rides like a truck. The Frontier rides nicer and smoother on leaf springs... - Front chin spoiler is ugly, but removing it lowers fuel economy... lose/lose - Lane centering only works when cruise is on, as far as I can tell - Speaking of lane centering, the truck absolutely demanded that I have a death-grip on the steering wheel. Anything less would result in warning - Only 4 solid tie-down points in the bed is tied for worst in class along with the Gladiator - $53k is insane for a mid-level trim... That's Canyon Denali money! That's nearly Ranger Raptor money!
@@rhodesianhunter9360 I definitely agree that the Nissan should be most reliable in the long run, and there's a strong argument to be made that it is the best value in the class. But, objectively speaking, I think the Canyon is the overall best truck in the class right now. Other than predicted reliability, center console storage, door pocket storage, and class-exclusive bed rails, there's really nothing else that the Frontier does better than the Canyon. Meanwhile, the Canyon has a bigger touchscreen, a fully digital gauge cluster, a heads up display, more soft touch materials in the cabin, available quilted leather seats, rear air vents, more tie down locations in the bed, rear bumper steps, a storage bin in the tailgate, more towing and hauling capacity, more powerful engine, more fuel efficient, is faster...
Better to go without cruise control than a hitch! Most manual transmission trucks always lacked cruise control. But no hitch means No Towing! Which you could have just gotten a cheaper car!
I must admit I'm confused. I'm a Brit, living in the US, for the last 41 years.This continued discussion, about the difference in 1, or 2 miles per gallon when deciding which truck to purchase. Considering, most Americans, drive at 80mph, on roads with a 55mph speed limit, why do you worry about fuel consumption?
There must be something wrong with my speedometer. Because whenever I’m driving around at the speed limit, everyone else is passing me like I’m standing still! Cheers from America 😄
I am pretty sure it’s not true at all at any speed because air resistance is proportional to the SQUARE of the speed not the speed itself. The higher the air resistance the more energy the engine has to exert to move the constant object (truck) forward. 1 MPH speed needs less energy than 2 MPH speed and so on.
Futher to my previous comment. I bought a new, Off road 4runner, at the beginning of January. I like the old, proven reliability aspect of this model. I learned to drive in England, in 1959, stick shift. I'm Old school, I drive the speed limit these days. I'm handicapped so, I don't drive much anymore. I believe in a break in period for new vehicles. I've only driven 600 miles since purchase in January, I'm averaging 21 mpg, so, I believe, watching ones speed does save fuel. I will be having my first oil change at 1,000 miles, even though I've had to argue with service managers, in recent years, that it's no longer necessary.
29:16 the radio knob is small and slippery between the fingers which makes it difficult to make adjustments. My 2017 Tacoma was the same. I purchased silicone wedding ring that was the perfect size and now it is just a little larger and has more grip. I bought silver to color match my trucks exterior.
@@is6566 I don't have too much interest in how they think about it. I have a 7 vehicle rotation. If one of the other's don't like it, they get moved down on the rotational priority of driving time.
😃 Seven! Wow are you located in United Arab Emirates or Utah? Getting them all nicely lubed and friction free under the same roof would be almost a full time job for me. 😍
I’m so glad you guys are professional…down to earth and you get to the heart of the matter. You’re helping me in a choice. The very best in your business ❤
@@marcJoel 2017 TRD Sport. Worst trans I have ever had in a vehicle. Did all the software updates and still was constantly searching for gears going uphill. And engine was underpowered. Amazes me the Tacoma cult following.
Awesome video. But this is to Toyota. Toyota, as a Tacoma owner and advocate of your brand, I would think you’d make dual zone AC standard for a TRD truck, as well as a vertical sliding rear window like the crewmax Tundra. A regular sliding window at the very bare bones. But had you made all double cabs (crew cab) Tacomas come with that fully opening rear window, and standard dual zone AC, many people would likely feel like the 45 THOUSAND dollars they spend is getting them something. Because they can literally get a LOADED 3rd gen with leather and sunroof for $45k. Idk. A bit of a step back. Know your clientele a bit more.
As someone who has been through back problems the handle on the pillars make a big difference getting in and out of a truck. The overhead handles suck and grabbing the steering wheel doesn't help you releive pressure off the back. I've seen some of these midsize offer the heavy duty handles for passenger and rear but not driver which makes no sense unless they are trying to prohibit a blind spot.
It doesn't add to the blind spots at all though. The 3rd gens have an aftermarket solution that adds a grab handle there. I think their theory is probably that it was pointless since you have a steering wheel there you can grab for the same purpose.
@@RedWingsninetyone The problem is bendiing in to grab a wheel that moves. It seems easy until you have a smushed disc pushing aginst your spinal cord. LoL. With the handle on the pillar you can lift into the vehicle instead of pull yourself in. It was one of the reasons it was easier to get into my F250 versus one of our suv. Even without the injury I find it more convenient. I understand they have to justify costs and such.
@@spyder000069 your steering wheel should be locked in place when the vehicle is not running. It should be pretty rare that you're ever getting in with it still running, but everyone is different. I don't disagree about the handle, I just think they thought to save cost when there is a steering wheel right there.
My 5th Gen Colorado had a tow rating of 7000 pounds. It was the worst truck I ever pulled my camper with. Camper was 3560 pounds. I hated that truck in so many ways, not just towing. Was so glad when I traded that truck in and went back to a full size.
You'll NEVER Convince people that know about trucks, a small motor with a turbo or a super charger is the way to go!! I'll keep my 21' TRD V6 Allllllllllllll Day... In 3 or 5 yrs these Turbos could be toast, especially if you are towing, Fogettaboutit...
So you have experience with just your truck, but you're saying that the people behind TFL that do this DAILY don't know about trucks? lol You can love your truck all you want because you're used to it and you have a connection with it, but these people do this every day, if they really tell you that it's way better, it means it's way better. Maybe you're just used to suffering with low power and bad seat position.
The fuel tank is probably wider at the top and VERY narrow towards the bottom. SO the float goes down slowly for the top “half” and quickly at the bottom.
@@wt9653 I am aware of that but want to see how it compares to the competition in a controlled test. If you want to get technical, they got 24 mpg from Houston to Dallas.
No mid-sized truck is perfect. But considering the Taco cost, no V6, low hp, low payload, not made in the US....I'm very happy I bought a new Frontier.
@beexiong2995 both trucks have pretty low payload for a mid-sized, but mine cost $5,000 less. Plus not a fan of turbo 4 cylinder engines in a truck. Time will tell I guess.
Such a great truck. I think Toyota almost nailed it. Wish they had added a couple inches of legroom in front or back, the Colorado has better combined legroom by a decent margin. And I wish there was a factory option to remove storage bin things under rear seats for a more flat floor.
I got Goodyear Territory AT w/Kevlar on my 2023 Tacoma Access Cab TRD Off Road. I got a 2023 because I like the clamshell doors, naturally aspirated V6 and the long bed. It looks like an inflated version of my Dad’s 1995.5 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4x4 V6 all manual (transmission, windows & locks), both of them black.
I believe the Trailhunter has the exhaust exit tucked up above the rear axle. I don’t know why Toyota didn’t do that on the TRD Offroad. I agree about the steps too. I don’t know why Toyota insists on adding those to their Offroad versions of the 4Runner and Tacoma.
That annoying gas gauge issue is done on purpose by manufacturers. Once you refill they don't want the gauge to go down right away so you don't feel like it's a gas hog. They also have it read as empty when there's a couple of gallons left for reserve. So since there's a few gallons missing from the gauge at each end that means that the gauge will drop quickly when it does. This is designed by the same people who set their clocks 10 minutes ahead so they're not late. I wish they would only do the reserve thing and not the full tank thing.
Frontier without a doubt. That 3.8 litre V6 will last decades and Made in USA. I don’t buy into Turbo for durability and economical reasons. It’s going to be expensive to maintain a Turbo engines.
Drive both. My friend had a frontier and once the new car smell ended, he started disliking the vehicle. Engine and transmission were fine. Suspension was his main complaint.
I went with the 2022 frontier pro 4X. I have about 22K miles, and I love it. I think it’s comfortable, and it was great offloading. It’s a versatile truck that doesn’t do one thing great, but a lot of things really well.
I’m not clear on the locking rear diff. What is the advantage of having a button for electronic locking rear differential? What do you lose in performance without it?
I have those same sidesteps on my Tundra. The side edges are a lot sharper than yours. When you get out of the cab you seem to slid out and your ankle catches the edge and can draw some blood. The good news it only happens once to each person.
I'm amazed at the new Toyota engines. Somehow Toyota has been able to replace the old metal engine with hoses. I didn't know hoses could power a vehicle, but somehow Toyota has figured out how to do it. Hose power is awesome.
My 2023 Toyota Tundra base SR has soft upper door sill trim, the rear doors (Crew Max) is hard plastics though. The new Tacoma interior is a step backwards, drivetrain is too new to see if there are any major problems.......The more I look at the midsize line up and the new models coming out, the more I like the Frontier.
The drivetrain is pretty reliable so far. It's already been running in the Lexus NX and Highlander since 2021. We just have to see how reliable it is with constant towing. I wouldn't be super worried seeing how it has to replace the much loved and indestructible 2gr V6.
37:09 The Gladiator lets you use all of that storage space.. And the old 2016 Tacoma that LLOD has does as well, because I remember watching the video about his truck and he showed it. I dunno what they have there. The hybrids have the battery there. Thankfully it seems like Goose-Gear still makes seat delete for the Tundra Hybrid and it goes over the battery. Hopefully will be the same for 2024 iForce Max Tacoma as well.
45,300. Tiny bed and marketed as off road. The tires are rated 600 A, A. Long lasting rating and great temp and traction ratings (highway tire). New engine design so reliability still in question. Payload is tiny. For that money I see a full size truck as a better short and long term option...Mileage on this truck is almost identical to my F150, 5.0 liter!
Being in the market for a 2024 midsize truck, I'm leaning toward the Nissan Frontier with the v-6. I don't really like the inline four cylinder turbo engines. I have never seen a gas turbo engine go more than 150,000 miles without some kind of turbo related problem. These trucks will all be well past their powertrain warranties when these problems start happening.
@@whodey59wrong less torque. Since when does 280 beat 317? You are talking about horsepower. In truck HP means nothing with no torque. Think about those dinky hondas in the 90s. 100 hp per liter yes but makes only 100 lbft of torque lol. Put two people in the car and its slower than a geo metro
@beexiong2995 Yep. Frontier has less torque because of the Taco's turbo. My mistake. More than 3rd gen Tacoma. My Frontier is def quicker than my 3rd gen Tacoma was, but probably not quicker than the 4th gen.
Looks like a great 1st year of the new generation. Plenty of room for improvement but still a solid step forward from the last one. Toyota is moving in a nice direction, looking forward to what's next from them.
I keep seeing the comments about 4wd engagement. Haven't had any issues and in 1615 miles since new, I've done about 130 on service roads and ORV parks.
I saw your video comparing Tocoma 2024 to Canyon. Two issues, 1# the switching between 2-W to 4-W , what was the problem and the fix. 2# the axel or gear snapped. What broke and what is the fix. Is there any other reports or was it a One & Off issue?
To ALL mid size truck manufacturers: why is the back seat area in 4 door truck still so dang small? Its 2024! When you $40-$50k on a mid size truck and you get mad about the lack of room behind the front seat and you might as well have saved about $3K-$4K and bought an ext cab. And thanks to the folks who still make a ext cab option.
Back seats in a mid sized truck has always been pretty worthless unless you are driving the kiddies to soccer practice. Buy a full sized truck or get a SUV.
@devildog5354 yea....that is pretty weird having to fold down the front seats to get to the storage. I love my conventional king cab Frontier with the 6' bed.
The deal breaker is the price. My local Toyota dealer has 32 on the way 2024 tacomas. Of those 32, 16 are over 50k, 15 are priced 42k to 50k, and only one is under 40 at 37k.
It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison of the "mid-range" TRD Sport & Off-Road models, Gen 3 vs. 2024. Toyota seems to have removed standard trim items from each and forced buyers to pay for additional trim packages to gain lost items.
Crazy that it's 45k and you still get cloth seats. I was looking at the configurator and the only way to get pleather is to pay an extra 8k. I really wish there was an option to add pleather or even vinyl as a standalone option. I would love to buy a 4x4 SR with vinyl seats since I really don't need any of the higher trim level features but I hate cloth.
It's a nice truck for a first time tacoma owner but if you have a nice 3rd gen no point trading in for this. Its crazy you guys got a basic off-road trim tacoma for $50k out the door. The prices are ridiculous now for a tacoma. If i get rid of my 2023 3rd gen I'll just get a full size truck
I had a 1st gen, drove a 2nd gen, and owned 2 3rd gens. The 3rd gen felt the weakest and had the worst transmission. For the 3.5 V6, I got full size truck mpg. This truck is a huge upgrade. Talking about the 4 cyl turbo, most buyers dont even work on their own engines. They wont know what they are missing
I drove from California to Arkansas for the eclipse in April. I drove very conservatively in eco mode. I never got better than 20.2 MPG. I wish I would get 24 MPG! Or even 21 or 22. But this has not been my experience. Driving around town / mixed, I am averaging 17.9. Also, the tank is small at 18 gal. So fill ups are frequent. Compared to my 2010 4RUNNER. Don't get me wrong! I actually LOVE my TRD Off Road Taco. I am just a little bit disappointed in some aspects.
I was really looking forward to the new taco. I have a 2020 tacoma TRD off-road that I tow a 20ft travel trailer with a lot and take to Moab. I was really looking forward to the additional power and better performance of the over all powertrain. Which it sounds like it had but the smaller gas tank is a killer. I was already limited in the 3rd gen, 18 gal just won't cut it when towing. And what is with a 45K truck not having power seats? I hate the engine transmission combo in my 3rd gen but I am starting to question if the 4 gen is in the cards or not for me.
It's crazy how low payload is on modern trucks, full size trucks too. My tiny 2001 4cyl Tacoma has 1718lbs of payload. The brochure doesn't even list any 1st gen Tacoma config under 1500lbs payload.
The heavier the truck is, particularly in light duty trucks, the more payload and towing capacity drops. The truck loaded with more options have less payload capacity as a tradeoff because of the extra weight on the frame and axles taking away from the capacity. Your 1st gen was comfortably under 4000lbs. Makes sense it has better payload. These new trucks are like 4400lb trucks. The best payload or towing combination is probably going to be the extracab sr5 trim. Has the same hp and trq as the top 4 cylinder turbo without the doublecab and options. The important thing about all this is the previous truck had 200 lbs less payload when a model to model comparison is done.
My 2011 Ram 1500 only has 1250lbs of payload. And frankly, this one is going to be one of the lowest because of the suspension. The pro will be the other. And do you have a single cab long bed?
40:03 Yeah stuff like that to me and the way Toyota does vehicle pre-sales is just really annoying IMO. Seems like with Toyota vehicles you need to buy them as is without customization from the factory because you're not custom ordering them. You have to wait until one comes in with exactly what you want with to me defeats the whole purpose. That's one of the reasons I'm getting the TRD Pro there are no options for it from the factory and I am hoping they can install stuff like bed scene lighting at the dealership.
I have a 4runner and the arm rest by the handle on the door is too low, and the arm rest ledge by the window it's too high. If the arm rest were half way between the two it would be just right. I suspect the Tacoma will be the same.
That fuel gauge might be a Toyota fuel pump thing. My Corolla did the same thing. I changed the fuel pump, just the pump, and now it works all the time. I used the original housing and level, but somehow it works fine now. I guess I knocked it while removing or taking the assembly apart that it doesn't hang up on full anymore.
My 2020 Colorado Z71 with V6, best was 8.5 km per 100km, so 27 per gallon.. with a tail wind. Usually 9.2. Towing 16 foot boat and motor , loaded with gear,14.5 per in central Canada.
All locking rear diffs are going to require some driving forward or reverse and letting the locking differential mesh into the locked position. See this comment all the time about lockers not engaging quickly while people just sit there and leave the vehicle stationary.
Damn right. My last recent purchases has been good though. My local dealers you get yourself approved on the online application. You dont need to go in and wait anymore except to sign your sales contract and pickup your vehicle. I bought a 2020 GR Supra from home. When I was approved and happy with my payment, I went to sign and pickup the car.
Thank you for another indepth review! I do have a request, would you be interested in adding a rear-facing carseat fit test to your truck interior reviews? I'm currently shopping between the Tacoma, Colorado, and Ranger, and a big selling point for me would be if a rear-facing car seat would fit in the second row and how it fits. Some of my peers are also truck owners and rear-facing carseat fitment is a significant selling point. Thanks!
Yeah.. I have a 3rd gen TRD OR and it will be my last (9th) Tacoma untill Toyota gets their crap figured out. By the way, I get the same mpg with the 3.5lL. Just not happy with the direction Toyota has gone. The good news is I am sitting at 303k miles on a '17 with zero issues so that is a huge plus.
The issues are actually minor ones which owners can modify them by themselves. Something that we can't modify is major issues. I'm going to order one once iforceMax version comes out!
Seems like a great truck but glad I decided to get a 2023 Colorado ZR2 to go along (not replace) my 2019 Tacoma. Best of both worlds. I just don't see the value in a new Tacoma. I would be in for over 60K for something even closely equipped to the ZR2 and that's before the dealer markups on something like a Pro or a loaded TRD Offroad.
A turbo 4 cylinder that only gets 1 mpg better mpg than the outgoing V6, as for the TFL claimed 24mpg on the highway thats no diff from the v6 either, my 23' V6 gets 24 mpg when cruising 60-70mph too. Also the new engine is rated 0-60 in 7.0 sec and the old V6 is rated at 7.7 sec, hardly a vastly superior update. Dont get me started on the price, fake leather seats now for a leather upgrade price, when did vinyl seats become an upgrade? (Think base model VW jetta seats) crazy prices for the "premium pkg upgrade" A fully loaded 2023 Limited with leather, sunroof, 360 camera, was about $45.5k now similar spec is damn near $60k and thats before the hybrid option. WTF is toyota thinking? But hey, it has a bigger screen so most of the smartphone generation will think its worth it right.
Lets get freaking real! They jack up their profit making you take add on's you dont want, then you pay the tax on 45,000, which is around, what, 2,500. So now your at 48,000! Oh, did that 45,000 include the rip off Transportation Charge?. No problem, just demand higher wages or find ways to rip off your customers! GREEDFLATION!
It looks like Toyota did a really good job of updating this pickup without totally reinventing it. It feels like the next generation, not a redo. That familiarity is a good thing, as the Tacoma already was a great midsize pickup. While I do understand that manufacturers are moving to smaller displacement turbocharged engines (in the name of MPG/emissions), I really kind of wish a naturally aspirated V6 was still available. I'm sure this turbo 4 will be just fine (because Toyota), but a big draw of the Tacoma/4Runner was the venerated V6. $45K seems like a lot of money for all the features this one is missing out on. Keep in mind this is a midsize truck. No larger radio display, no 360 camera, no hybrid, no leather, no heated seats, no power rear window, no brake controller, no sunroof. The fully loaded ones will be expensive.
Great review as always. Really looking forward to when y’all get your hands on a fully loaded hybrid version. Gotta admit the price tag has me a bit worried as I look forward to the new 4Runner.
For a midsize with a 6ft bed on paper I’d go for the Taco over the Frontier (my opinion). When talking standard 5ft bed you’d have to do your homework on the competition, great options out there.
You mentioned a lot of warning messages and bings and bongs. I absolutely hate that about newer cars. If I want to drive around the property without my seat belt on, that's my personal freedom to do so without an annoying warning alarm. Many of these "driver aids" are more distracting than helpful. It can be downright hazardous if I'm cornering at the limit and the car decides to brake automatically. I'm sure someone knows a way to program those systems. 26:58
The Predator Steps are a Port installed Option, it has nothing to do w/ Toyota. Toyota doesn't offer them as an option. Gulf States Toyota where you bought this Tacoma offers these, just as we do at Southeast Toyota. Six bolts and 10 mins and they're off. Great video, thanks for sharing.
This week I got to test drive a new TRD Sport Tacoma at my local dealer. It had just about every option and stickered at just over $53k. Here are some of the things i noticed...
Pros:
- The interior build quality, a known sore spot for most midsize trucks, feels and sounds very solid in most areas
- The large touchscreen is well integrated and doesn't feel tacked on, or obstruct the driver's view of the road
- The bed is very deep and has useful integrated storage and plug-in options
- The ability to lower and raise the tailgate with a touch of the tail-light button on EITHER side is awesome
- Cruise control buttons are on the steering wheel, not a stock, and are easy to use
- The front cupholders are East and West orientated, no reaching over the shifter to grab your beverage. Yay!
- Physical climate and lighting controls. Yay
- Great power, although it is buried deep in the pedal. Toyota definitely wants you to drive this thing like an elderly person.
- Decent door pocket storage! Unlike the GM twins which have next to none...
- Good storage under the rear seats
- Wide-opening glovebox
- Front tow hooks. Yay!
- Fold down rear seats
- Adjustable projector headlights
- Power rear sliding window (some competitors are manual only)
- Power seat controls, including lumbar, on both front seats is awesome
- Finally, plenty of headroom! At last my 6'3" frame can fit in a Tacoma!
Cons:
- You really do have to bury your foot in the gas pedal if you want to get anywhere anytime soon...
- The door pockets are very thin and flimsy, just like the Tundra
- Speaking of the Tundra, there is no place to put your foot on the bumper when the tailgate is down (the Frontier also fails here)
- The 4wd shifter absolutely DIGS into my leg. Lowering the seat helps, but puts me in the same awkward seating position of the last gen Taco
- Partly because of this, I could not find a comfortable seating position. My 15 minute test drive left me aching and sore.
- No fold down rear cup holders... I think it is the only one in the class without them!
- No rear climate vents (Frontier and Ranger also lack them, GM twins, Ridgeline, and Gladiator all have them)
- Center console storage is shallow and lackluster. The Frontiers is almost twice as deep!
- Not sure what the point of the complex rear coil suspension is, still rides like a truck. The Frontier rides nicer and smoother on leaf springs...
- Front chin spoiler is ugly, but removing it lowers fuel economy... lose/lose
- Lane centering only works when cruise is on, as far as I can tell
- Speaking of lane centering, the truck absolutely demanded that I have a death-grip on the steering wheel. Anything less would result in warning
- Only 4 solid tie-down points in the bed is tied for worst in class along with the Gladiator
- $53k is insane for a mid-level trim... That's Canyon Denali money! That's nearly Ranger Raptor money!
So it's a $53k underpowered pile of heaping shit
I really really hate this truck. Nissan has the best one right now. It’ll be the most long term reliable midsize out there.
@@rhodesianhunter9360 I definitely agree that the Nissan should be most reliable in the long run, and there's a strong argument to be made that it is the best value in the class. But, objectively speaking, I think the Canyon is the overall best truck in the class right now.
Other than predicted reliability, center console storage, door pocket storage, and class-exclusive bed rails, there's really nothing else that the Frontier does better than the Canyon.
Meanwhile, the Canyon has a bigger touchscreen, a fully digital gauge cluster, a heads up display, more soft touch materials in the cabin, available quilted leather seats, rear air vents, more tie down locations in the bed, rear bumper steps, a storage bin in the tailgate, more towing and hauling capacity, more powerful engine, more fuel efficient, is faster...
@@rhodesianhunter9360nisan very ugly
Overrated junk. Engine blowns as a tow truck. No way Taco bell of trucks ... cheap truck high price.
Buying a truck without a hitch would be almost as bad as buying one without cruise control.
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I’m amazed that Nathan didn’t say that when Andre mentioned having to have a hitch.
Better to go without cruise control than a hitch! Most manual transmission trucks always lacked cruise control. But no hitch means No Towing! Which you could have just gotten a cheaper car!
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your support!
I must admit I'm confused. I'm a Brit, living in the US, for the last 41 years.This continued discussion, about the difference in 1, or 2 miles per gallon when deciding which truck to purchase. Considering, most Americans, drive at 80mph, on roads with a 55mph speed limit, why do you worry about fuel consumption?
There must be something wrong with my speedometer. Because whenever I’m driving around at the speed limit, everyone else is passing me like I’m standing still!
Cheers from America 😄
Most Americans think the mpg improves the faster you go. That’s true up to maybe 60 mph with today’s tall gearing.
I am pretty sure it’s not true at all at any speed because air resistance is proportional to the SQUARE of the speed not the speed itself. The higher the air resistance the more energy the engine has to exert to move the constant object (truck) forward.
1 MPH speed needs less energy than 2 MPH speed and so on.
It didn't matter back un the 1980's and 1990's when gas was below $1.50/gallon. But does today when gas is above $3/gallon and had been $4+/gallon.
Futher to my previous comment. I bought a new, Off road 4runner, at the beginning of January. I like the old, proven reliability aspect of this model. I learned to drive in England, in 1959, stick shift. I'm Old school, I drive the speed limit these days. I'm handicapped so, I don't drive much anymore. I believe in a break in period for new vehicles. I've only driven 600 miles since purchase in January, I'm averaging 21 mpg, so, I believe, watching ones speed does save fuel. I will be having my first oil change at 1,000 miles, even though I've had to argue with service managers, in recent years, that it's no longer necessary.
29:16 the radio knob is small and slippery between the fingers which makes it difficult to make adjustments.
My 2017 Tacoma was the same.
I purchased silicone wedding ring that was the perfect size and now it is just a little larger and has more grip. I bought silver to color match my trucks exterior.
What did your significant other think about your polygamist tendencies? 😃
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Married to his Tacoma...
@@is6566 I don't have too much interest in how they think about it. I have a 7 vehicle rotation. If one of the other's don't like it, they get moved down on the rotational priority of driving time.
😃 Seven! Wow are you located in United Arab Emirates or Utah? Getting them all nicely lubed and friction free under the same roof would be almost a full time job for me. 😍
I’m so glad you guys are professional…down to earth and you get to the heart of the matter. You’re helping me in a choice. The very best in your business ❤
I'm surprised nobody makes those side steps on sprung hinges so they can flip up if you hit them.
Good video, but would like to remind Nathan that most of us 3rd generation Tacoma owners really love our trucks.
What does he know he buys Hyundai 🤔 whatever that vehicle he has😮
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Didn't love the trans on mine.
@@whodey59is it a 3g or 3.5g?
@@marcJoel 2017 TRD Sport. Worst trans I have ever had in a vehicle. Did all the software updates and still was constantly searching for gears going uphill. And engine was underpowered. Amazes me the Tacoma cult following.
Frontier and Ridgeline are the only dog friendly ones though. Once the back seat is up you have a flat surface for storage or dogs.
Sorry your wife doesn't fit
Awesome video. But this is to Toyota.
Toyota, as a Tacoma owner and advocate of your brand, I would think you’d make dual zone AC standard for a TRD truck, as well as a vertical sliding rear window like the crewmax Tundra. A regular sliding window at the very bare bones. But had you made all double cabs (crew cab) Tacomas come with that fully opening rear window, and standard dual zone AC, many people would likely feel like the 45 THOUSAND dollars they spend is getting them something. Because they can literally get a LOADED 3rd gen with leather and sunroof for $45k. Idk. A bit of a step back. Know your clientele a bit more.
As someone who has been through back problems the handle on the pillars make a big difference getting in and out of a truck. The overhead handles suck and grabbing the steering wheel doesn't help you releive pressure off the back. I've seen some of these midsize offer the heavy duty handles for passenger and rear but not driver which makes no sense unless they are trying to prohibit a blind spot.
It doesn't add to the blind spots at all though. The 3rd gens have an aftermarket solution that adds a grab handle there. I think their theory is probably that it was pointless since you have a steering wheel there you can grab for the same purpose.
@@RedWingsninetyone The problem is bendiing in to grab a wheel that moves. It seems easy until you have a smushed disc pushing aginst your spinal cord. LoL. With the handle on the pillar you can lift into the vehicle instead of pull yourself in. It was one of the reasons it was easier to get into my F250 versus one of our suv. Even without the injury I find it more convenient. I understand they have to justify costs and such.
@@spyder000069 your steering wheel should be locked in place when the vehicle is not running. It should be pretty rare that you're ever getting in with it still running, but everyone is different. I don't disagree about the handle, I just think they thought to save cost when there is a steering wheel right there.
My 5th Gen Colorado had a tow rating of 7000 pounds. It was the worst truck I ever pulled my camper with. Camper was 3560 pounds. I hated that truck in so many ways, not just towing. Was so glad when I traded that truck in and went back to a full size.
Superb job, thanks for all the detail on the new truck. You are the best youtube channel for the new Tacoma. Well done!
I love the fact you did a Toyota TRD Off Road to Chevy Trail Boss comparison. Two top choices I've been looking at.
You'll NEVER Convince people that know about trucks, a small motor with a turbo or a super charger is the way to go!! I'll keep my 21' TRD V6 Allllllllllllll Day... In 3 or 5 yrs these Turbos could be toast, especially if you are towing, Fogettaboutit...
Yup... Your V6 value just went waaaay up!!
You'll never convince people that KNOW trucks that a wimpy little v6 is the way to go, when V8 rule!!
I don't need a FULL Size truck, nor a gas guzzler ya derp!@@garys2157
So you have experience with just your truck, but you're saying that the people behind TFL that do this DAILY don't know about trucks? lol You can love your truck all you want because you're used to it and you have a connection with it, but these people do this every day, if they really tell you that it's way better, it means it's way better. Maybe you're just used to suffering with low power and bad seat position.
The fuel tank is probably wider at the top and VERY narrow towards the bottom. SO the float goes down slowly for the top “half” and quickly at the bottom.
I would like to see a MPG loop comparison with the Colorado.
They already have done the. fuel mileage test on the Tacoma. It was getting 24.2 mpg at 75 mph from Texas to Colorado.
@@wt9653He means the 100 + mile loop they do around the Denver Metro area
@@wt9653 I am aware of that but want to see how it compares to the competition in a controlled test. If you want to get technical, they got 24 mpg from Houston to Dallas.
No lids for the rear storage bins like the previous gen. Straps to hold the rear seat up? That's half assed design.
Needs 120v outlet and ub.
Y’all are the best at what you do. Appreciate it all the content!
I’m confused-22mpg x 18= 396 miles why is the computer showing a 100 mile less range
I can’t get over the 4 cylinder turbo
No mid-sized truck is perfect.
But considering the Taco cost, no V6, low hp, low payload, not made in the US....I'm very happy I bought a new Frontier.
New Tacoma is all hype, good thing Toyota is great at marketing and screwing the loyal enthusiasts
Your frontier has worse payload and power downlow where it matters in a heavy pickup
@beexiong2995 both trucks have pretty low payload for a mid-sized, but mine cost $5,000 less.
Plus not a fan of turbo 4 cylinder engines in a truck. Time will tell I guess.
I also own Frontier and am very happy with my truck.
@beexiong2995 These aren't heavy pick -ups.
And today's truck buyers seem to rather have a back seat for the kiddies than a 6 ft bed for payload.
Such a great truck. I think Toyota almost nailed it. Wish they had added a couple inches of legroom in front or back, the Colorado has better combined legroom by a decent margin. And I wish there was a factory option to remove storage bin things under rear seats for a more flat floor.
I got Goodyear Territory AT w/Kevlar on my 2023 Tacoma Access Cab TRD Off Road.
I got a 2023 because I like the clamshell doors, naturally aspirated V6 and the long bed. It looks like an inflated version of my Dad’s 1995.5 Tacoma Xtra Cab 4x4 V6 all manual (transmission, windows & locks), both of them black.
I believe the Trailhunter has the exhaust exit tucked up above the rear axle. I don’t know why Toyota didn’t do that on the TRD Offroad. I agree about the steps too. I don’t know why Toyota insists on adding those to their Offroad versions of the 4Runner and Tacoma.
Andre, the SR has a smaller digital gauge cluster (like 2023 colorado) with 2 digital gauges on the sides of it.
That annoying gas gauge issue is done on purpose by manufacturers. Once you refill they don't want the gauge to go down right away so you don't feel like it's a gas hog. They also have it read as empty when there's a couple of gallons left for reserve. So since there's a few gallons missing from the gauge at each end that means that the gauge will drop quickly when it does. This is designed by the same people who set their clocks 10 minutes ahead so they're not late.
I wish they would only do the reserve thing and not the full tank thing.
This or a Frontier?I'm in the market and don't know what to buy.
Frontier without a doubt. That 3.8 litre V6 will last decades and Made in USA.
I don’t buy into Turbo for durability and economical reasons. It’s going to be expensive to maintain a Turbo engines.
Drive both. My friend had a frontier and once the new car smell ended, he started disliking the vehicle. Engine and transmission were fine. Suspension was his main complaint.
We have a new Frontier at work - terribly uncomfortable seats, a proud NISSAN tradition...
I went with the 2022 frontier pro 4X. I have about 22K miles, and I love it. I think it’s comfortable, and it was great offloading. It’s a versatile truck that doesn’t do one thing great, but a lot of things really well.
@JustinDeClemente I had a 3rd gen Taco and the Frontier seats are 100% more comfortable. With Tacos you are sitting more horizontal.
I’m not clear on the locking rear diff. What is the advantage of having a button for electronic locking rear differential? What do you lose in performance without it?
I have those same sidesteps on my Tundra. The side edges are a lot sharper than yours. When you get out of the cab you seem to slid out and your ankle catches the edge and can draw some blood. The good news it only happens once to each person.
It’s funny I also have those side steps, I’m only 5’ tall so I use them when getting out. But everyoneeeee else hates them for your reason 🤣
Love the honesty! Why I'm still here
How many times do you go off road . Get real we need mpg and quality
Then buy a Prius, princess.
We go off-road about once every two weeks. That does not include overlanding, snow/ice driving and basic camping.
@NathanDAdlen ya, another of these commenters that don't live in CO...
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RIP the best gens
I'm amazed at the new Toyota engines. Somehow Toyota has been able to replace the old metal engine with hoses. I didn't know hoses could power a vehicle, but somehow Toyota has figured out how to do it. Hose power is awesome.
It really looks like the engine bay is straight outta the 1980s with the spaghetti under there...
70's really@@NukePooch1
Wake up. All ICE engines look like this under their plastic engine covers
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Not true!!
Not true! I have a 2018 Crosstrek -no cover - and it well laid out under hood
Also, I had a 2016 Tacoma when it first came out and nearly had to declare a lemon law on it. There will be bugs!
Be nice to get the engineer on the show to have him explain the issues and missing features to see his reaction. Our Honda CRV has a 14gal tank
My 2023 Toyota Tundra base SR has soft upper door sill trim, the rear doors (Crew Max) is hard plastics though. The new Tacoma interior is a step backwards, drivetrain is too new to see if there are any major problems.......The more I look at the midsize line up and the new models coming out, the more I like the Frontier.
The drivetrain is pretty reliable so far. It's already been running in the Lexus NX and Highlander since 2021. We just have to see how reliable it is with constant towing. I wouldn't be super worried seeing how it has to replace the much loved and indestructible 2gr V6.
37:09 The Gladiator lets you use all of that storage space.. And the old 2016 Tacoma that LLOD has does as well, because I remember watching the video about his truck and he showed it.
I dunno what they have there. The hybrids have the battery there. Thankfully it seems like Goose-Gear still makes seat delete for the Tundra Hybrid and it goes over the battery. Hopefully will be the same for 2024 iForce Max Tacoma as well.
45,300. Tiny bed and marketed as off road. The tires are rated 600 A, A. Long lasting rating and great temp and traction ratings (highway tire). New engine design so reliability still in question. Payload is tiny. For that money I see a full size truck as a better short and long term option...Mileage on this truck is almost identical to my F150, 5.0 liter!
That engine it's already proven in other markets.
toyota has problems with the turbo@@makatron
@@billw8476 I'll dig into that, gotta be super sure before you fork out your money for an already overpriced truck.
Toyota had a 4 cup turbo in the 80s in 4 wheel drives 😂
@@TheOutdoorBeerReviewrather have a Ridgeline, better payload, wider bed, better ride, more rear leg room
I bought a Redarc brake controller for my Tacoma which integrated nicely on the dash
Being in the market for a 2024 midsize truck, I'm leaning toward the Nissan Frontier with the v-6. I don't really like the inline four cylinder turbo engines. I have never seen a gas turbo engine go more than 150,000 miles without some kind of turbo related problem. These trucks will all be well past their powertrain warranties when these problems start happening.
My 2024 Frontier is awesome. V6, 310 hp, more torque than this Taco.
Less expensive and will be running years after this turbo beaks down.
@@whodey59wrong less torque. Since when does 280 beat 317? You are talking about horsepower. In truck HP means nothing with no torque. Think about those dinky hondas in the 90s. 100 hp per liter yes but makes only 100 lbft of torque lol. Put two people in the car and its slower than a geo metro
@beexiong2995 Yep. Frontier has less torque because of the Taco's turbo.
My mistake.
More than 3rd gen Tacoma.
My Frontier is def quicker than my 3rd gen Tacoma was, but probably not quicker than the 4th gen.
It will be interesting to see if Tacoma sales numbers drop. Great looks but $15000 over priced.
Considering they are only $3k more than last gens, which were a sales leader, I suspect they'll do fine.
How does the base audio system sound? No reviews giving info on this. JBL reviews are hot and cold but how about the base?
Who puts the temp control knob to the left of the blower speed knob?
Never thought about it. Does it really matter?
@@Dusdaddy Just an observation. Does it matter? No. Is it different than every vehicle I can remember being in? Yes.
@@number40Fan good observation. I've never really noticed that it was common the other way, interesting
I just love the small 4 cylinder engine. And TWO turbos to burn out. And just LOVE the PRICE. And love the fact it is made in good ole MEXICO !!!
Looks like a great 1st year of the new generation. Plenty of room for improvement but still a solid step forward from the last one. Toyota is moving in a nice direction, looking forward to what's next from them.
What a nice job you guys do. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I keep seeing the comments about 4wd engagement. Haven't had any issues and in 1615 miles since new, I've done about 130 on service roads and ORV parks.
I saw your video comparing Tocoma 2024 to Canyon. Two issues, 1# the switching between 2-W to 4-W , what was the problem and the fix. 2# the axel or gear snapped. What broke and what is the fix. Is there any other reports or was it a One & Off issue?
Andre... Stop being so afraid to say anything.... controversial or negative about the trucks you review
To ALL mid size truck manufacturers: why is the back seat area in 4 door truck still so dang small? Its 2024! When you $40-$50k on a mid size truck and you get mad about the lack of room behind the front seat and you might as well have saved about $3K-$4K and bought an ext cab. And thanks to the folks who still make a ext cab option.
less choice and pay more money!! that is the new motto. it is sad.@devildog5354
Back seats in a mid sized truck has always been pretty worthless unless you are driving the kiddies to soccer practice. Buy a full sized truck or get a SUV.
@@whodey59 or a unibody truck lol
@devildog5354 yea....that is pretty weird having to fold down the front seats to get to the storage.
I love my conventional king cab Frontier with the 6' bed.
The deal breaker is the price. My local Toyota dealer has 32 on the way 2024 tacomas. Of those 32, 16 are over 50k, 15 are priced 42k to 50k, and only one is under 40 at 37k.
Ouch Considering I paid $36,800 for 2016 F150 XLT FX4 back in Dec 2016
Welcome to 2024. None of them are cheap. A friggin Ram Big Horn is $72K!
Thats a great deal bro! I got the 2020 taco trd OR and the cheapest ford i could find was 42000 with 98000 miles.@@stevesafety6743
With inflation that's close to 50k@@stevesafety6743
They are overpriced.
It would be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison of the "mid-range" TRD Sport & Off-Road models, Gen 3 vs. 2024. Toyota seems to have removed standard trim items from each and forced buyers to pay for additional trim packages to gain lost items.
They did!
Which video? Thx in advance.@@timalan7406
Crazy that it's 45k and you still get cloth seats. I was looking at the configurator and the only way to get pleather is to pay an extra 8k. I really wish there was an option to add pleather or even vinyl as a standalone option. I would love to buy a 4x4 SR with vinyl seats since I really don't need any of the higher trim level features but I hate cloth.
Fake leather. Basically just nicer vinyl. Toyota calls it SoftTex.@@is6566
Fake leather. Basically just nice vinyl. Toyota calls theirs Softex.@@is6566
It's a nice truck for a first time tacoma owner but if you have a nice 3rd gen no point trading in for this. Its crazy you guys got a basic off-road trim tacoma for $50k out the door. The prices are ridiculous now for a tacoma. If i get rid of my 2023 3rd gen I'll just get a full size truck
I had a 1st gen, drove a 2nd gen, and owned 2 3rd gens. The 3rd gen felt the weakest and had the worst transmission. For the 3.5 V6, I got full size truck mpg. This truck is a huge upgrade. Talking about the 4 cyl turbo, most buyers dont even work on their own engines. They wont know what they are missing
I'm hoping you guys do an off road test between this and Andre's TrailBoss !
Nice that is does not have a bunch of unnecessary features. Keep it simple.
1:36 it was 4Runner Pro in Terra for those who didn’t watch the video yet
Did it have 110 outlet in the bed? For the money the back seat should have more room
If you want more room buy a full sized truck. We don't want these trucks any larger
Other Midsizes have more leg room
@@stevesafety6743 They are all about the same when you sit in them, crap. Only the Honda is doable for adults, plus a flat load floor.
@@Dusdaddy true try sitting 5 in a Tacoma
@@stevesafety6743 Same as 5 in a Colorado or Ranger, total shit.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ box frame, all 4 disc brakes, new spring suspension, bilstein with reservoir, improved mpg, more power, and torque. WOW!
Your NOT mechanically inclined i can tell 🤔
@@honda116969 You're*
@honda116969 you're not grammatically inclined...
I just test drove one and not sure about that “more power”.
You forgot to mention the downgrade 4 banger turbo.
I drove from California to Arkansas for the eclipse in April. I drove very conservatively in eco mode. I never got better than 20.2 MPG. I wish I would get 24 MPG! Or even 21 or 22. But this has not been my experience. Driving around town / mixed, I am averaging 17.9. Also, the tank is small at 18 gal. So fill ups are frequent. Compared to my 2010 4RUNNER. Don't get me wrong! I actually LOVE my TRD Off Road Taco. I am just a little bit disappointed in some aspects.
I was really looking forward to the new taco. I have a 2020 tacoma TRD off-road that I tow a 20ft travel trailer with a lot and take to Moab. I was really looking forward to the additional power and better performance of the over all powertrain. Which it sounds like it had but the smaller gas tank is a killer. I was already limited in the 3rd gen, 18 gal just won't cut it when towing. And what is with a 45K truck not having power seats? I hate the engine transmission combo in my 3rd gen but I am starting to question if the 4 gen is in the cards or not for me.
It's crazy how low payload is on modern trucks, full size trucks too.
My tiny 2001 4cyl Tacoma has 1718lbs of payload.
The brochure doesn't even list any 1st gen Tacoma config under 1500lbs payload.
That's more than any of my half tons. Not far off my 2500.
I suspect lawyers got involved. You can probably do just as much on the newer stuff.
True but I bet people were crashing them or wearing out brakes so Toyota likely forced to downplay it.
The heavier the truck is, particularly in light duty trucks, the more payload and towing capacity drops. The truck loaded with more options have less payload capacity as a tradeoff because of the extra weight on the frame and axles taking away from the capacity. Your 1st gen was comfortably under 4000lbs. Makes sense it has better payload. These new trucks are like 4400lb trucks. The best payload or towing combination is probably going to be the extracab sr5 trim. Has the same hp and trq as the top 4 cylinder turbo without the doublecab and options. The important thing about all this is the previous truck had 200 lbs less payload when a model to model comparison is done.
My 2011 Ram 1500 only has 1250lbs of payload. And frankly, this one is going to be one of the lowest because of the suspension. The pro will be the other. And do you have a single cab long bed?
40:03 Yeah stuff like that to me and the way Toyota does vehicle pre-sales is just really annoying IMO. Seems like with Toyota vehicles you need to buy them as is without customization from the factory because you're not custom ordering them. You have to wait until one comes in with exactly what you want with to me defeats the whole purpose.
That's one of the reasons I'm getting the TRD Pro there are no options for it from the factory and I am hoping they can install stuff like bed scene lighting at the dealership.
I have a 4runner and the arm rest by the handle on the door is too low, and the arm rest ledge by the window it's too high. If the arm rest were half way between the two it would be just right. I suspect the Tacoma will be the same.
That fuel gauge might be a Toyota fuel pump thing. My Corolla did the same thing. I changed the fuel pump, just the pump, and now it works all the time. I used the original housing and level, but somehow it works fine now. I guess I knocked it while removing or taking the assembly apart that it doesn't hang up on full anymore.
My 2020 Colorado Z71 with V6, best was 8.5 km per 100km, so 27 per gallon.. with a tail wind. Usually 9.2. Towing 16 foot boat and motor , loaded with gear,14.5 per in central Canada.
30:26 Costco card holder, loyalty store card, or frequent buyer stamp cards. I wish I had one in my 2023 TRD OR ACLB
All locking rear diffs are going to require some driving forward or reverse and letting the locking differential mesh into the locked position. See this comment all the time about lockers not engaging quickly while people just sit there and leave the vehicle stationary.
Yup. Unless the drivetrain is lined up perfectly which is hit or miss lol
Would like to replace my old Tacoma but absolutely hate having to deal with the dealers.
Damn right. My last recent purchases has been good though. My local dealers you get yourself approved on the online application. You dont need to go in and wait anymore except to sign your sales contract and pickup your vehicle. I bought a 2020 GR Supra from home. When I was approved and happy with my payment, I went to sign and pickup the car.
Thank you for another indepth review! I do have a request, would you be interested in adding a rear-facing carseat fit test to your truck interior reviews? I'm currently shopping between the Tacoma, Colorado, and Ranger, and a big selling point for me would be if a rear-facing car seat would fit in the second row and how it fits. Some of my peers are also truck owners and rear-facing carseat fitment is a significant selling point. Thanks!
If that a pillar has an air bag, that funky grab handle might be so that the air bag doesn’t destroy your hand incase of a crash.
Yeah.. I have a 3rd gen TRD OR and it will be my last (9th) Tacoma untill Toyota gets their crap figured out. By the way, I get the same mpg with the 3.5lL. Just not happy with the direction Toyota has gone. The good news is I am sitting at 303k miles on a '17 with zero issues so that is a huge plus.
What does TFL do with all their vehicles after one year ownership? Can the employees buy them from TFL?
Walk around is much better than people just talking into mics.
The issues are actually minor ones which owners can modify them by themselves. Something that we can't modify is major issues. I'm going to order one once iforceMax version comes out!
Seems like a great truck but glad I decided to get a 2023 Colorado ZR2 to go along (not replace) my 2019 Tacoma. Best of both worlds. I just don't see the value in a new Tacoma. I would be in for over 60K for something even closely equipped to the ZR2 and that's before the dealer markups on something like a Pro or a loaded TRD Offroad.
BLUEBERRY! I had an awesome time very enjoyable.
Wonder if the Turbo will be a disaster like in the tundra
I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD and the KBB is 24-26k for trade in. But I don’t think my next truck will be a Tacoma.
Andre, now the Tacoma has broken something preventing 4wd... does your concerns about Taco Vs Colorado change?
A turbo 4 cylinder that only gets 1 mpg better mpg than the outgoing V6, as for the TFL claimed 24mpg on the highway thats no diff from the v6 either, my 23' V6 gets 24 mpg when cruising 60-70mph too. Also the new engine is rated 0-60 in 7.0 sec and the old V6 is rated at 7.7 sec, hardly a vastly superior update. Dont get me started on the price, fake leather seats now for a leather upgrade price, when did vinyl seats become an upgrade? (Think base model VW jetta seats) crazy prices for the "premium pkg upgrade" A fully loaded 2023 Limited with leather, sunroof, 360 camera, was about $45.5k now similar spec is damn near $60k and thats before the hybrid option. WTF is toyota thinking? But hey, it has a bigger screen so most of the smartphone generation will think its worth it right.
I've had that gas gauge issue on EVERY vehicle I've had. Toyota, BMW, VW, Nissan, Honda... It's not a con, it's a reality. Lol
My old Sierra did that with the fuel gauge. The first 1/4 tank would get as many miles as the last 3/4.
I'm here for the humor and had to wait to the end of the video to get it, but worth it...
38:50 that USB-C is for Wired CarPlay/Android Auto
Toyota transmission is Asin. Mazda uses them as well in their 6 speed
They were talking about the locking rear end.
Lets get freaking real! They jack up their profit making you take add on's you dont want, then you pay the tax on 45,000, which is around, what, 2,500. So now your at 48,000! Oh, did that 45,000 include the rip off Transportation Charge?. No problem, just demand higher wages or find ways to rip off your customers! GREEDFLATION!
It looks like Toyota did a really good job of updating this pickup without totally reinventing it. It feels like the next generation, not a redo. That familiarity is a good thing, as the Tacoma already was a great midsize pickup.
While I do understand that manufacturers are moving to smaller displacement turbocharged engines (in the name of MPG/emissions), I really kind of wish a naturally aspirated V6 was still available. I'm sure this turbo 4 will be just fine (because Toyota), but a big draw of the Tacoma/4Runner was the venerated V6.
$45K seems like a lot of money for all the features this one is missing out on. Keep in mind this is a midsize truck. No larger radio display, no 360 camera, no hybrid, no leather, no heated seats, no power rear window, no brake controller, no sunroof. The fully loaded ones will be expensive.
You guy`s are ALWAYS doing a amazing job...
Great video! Enjoyed the format and content!
Awesome, thank you!
Andrea is never going to live down the fact he missed getting cruise control on his Colorado.
At 1:44 you said it doesn't have that package, talking about the off road. But the truck is obviously an off road package
Great review as always. Really looking forward to when y’all get your hands on a fully loaded hybrid version.
Gotta admit the price tag has me a bit worried as I look forward to the new 4Runner.
Great walk around guys!!!
For a midsize with a 6ft bed on paper I’d go for the Taco over the Frontier (my opinion). When talking standard 5ft bed you’d have to do your homework on the competition, great options out there.
If you want a 6 foot bed that fits in your garage, the 2924 Frontier king cab is an awesome choice. V6 too.
I guess I'm not understanding. Did you make concessions to the truck you would have bought because you wanted to have one of the first ones?
I believe that box under the rear seat passenger side is for the cooling fan when it is a hybrid
You mentioned a lot of warning messages and bings and bongs. I absolutely hate that about newer cars. If I want to drive around the property without my seat belt on, that's my personal freedom to do so without an annoying warning alarm. Many of these "driver aids" are more distracting than helpful. It can be downright hazardous if I'm cornering at the limit and the car decides to brake automatically. I'm sure someone knows a way to program those systems. 26:58
Hopefully, most likely you’ll be able to use the Trail Hunter mid pipe dump on these.
The Predator Steps are a Port installed Option, it has nothing to do w/ Toyota. Toyota doesn't offer them as an option. Gulf States Toyota where you bought this Tacoma offers these, just as we do at Southeast Toyota. Six bolts and 10 mins and they're off. Great video, thanks for sharing.