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  • @The_Silverblast
    @The_Silverblast 2 роки тому +3075

    Max: “A one for one creation of advent children? Unbiased 10/10!”
    Also Max: “A one for one recreation of joker’s all out attack? That was ok 8/10.”

    • @knightro9235
      @knightro9235 2 роки тому +945

      Max: The references don’t necessarily make it better…
      Also Max: OMG HE USES THE ICONIC ATTACK FROM FINAL FANTASY VII 12/10

    • @captainnwalps6689
      @captainnwalps6689 2 роки тому +715

      “The lore doesn’t make it any better” Sephiroth turns into a JPEG “OMG HE USES THE SOLAR SYSTEM TO FUCK YOU UP”

    • @toromaniac2232
      @toromaniac2232 2 роки тому +344

      @@captainnwalps6689 I love the mental image of Sephiroth turning into a 200ft 2010-era meme JPEG as his ultimate attack

    • @Gpop119
      @Gpop119 2 роки тому +181

      I think what greatly affected the rating was the fact that it took 30 min just to set it up for the special ending that he got tired and had high expectations for it in the end to be worth all the effort.
      It's unfortunate since I think it's one of the best ones imo as well, and I didn't even finish the game yet.

    • @16ktsgamma
      @16ktsgamma 2 роки тому +265

      Max is so biased he can't hide it

  • @cristianlopez3065
    @cristianlopez3065 2 роки тому +1724

    Bro, the effort it took for Joker's Super lmao

    • @bluejacket8557
      @bluejacket8557 2 роки тому +17

      😂😂😂 should have been included

    • @JojoDigitalArtist
      @JojoDigitalArtist 2 роки тому +31

      How did it take that much effort? It's just killing someone with it on the last stock?

    • @deco7217
      @deco7217 2 роки тому +237

      @@JojoDigitalArtist The effort is in actually landing it. It's hard as hell. But when you land it, it's well worth it as a persona fan.

    • @vincewilliamss
      @vincewilliamss 2 роки тому +27

      @@deco7217 if I remember right you can't use it in training mode or it ends differently or something like that?

    • @captainnwalps6689
      @captainnwalps6689 2 роки тому +41

      @@JojoDigitalArtist like 30 minutes of setup and then he missed so he had to redo it all

  • @leonardchurch814
    @leonardchurch814 2 роки тому +1773

    Did Max REALLY cut out the part where he spent like FIVE MINUTES trying to get Jokers super on Mario??? Lmao.

    • @runningwithscissors8612
      @runningwithscissors8612 2 роки тому +305

      The rage when he missed needed to be immortalized

    • @Mystical_one
      @Mystical_one 2 роки тому +79

      @@runningwithscissors8612 everyone in chat was hilarious

    • @GucciPucciMIH
      @GucciPucciMIH 2 роки тому +1

      Unintentional pun?

    • @Zion349
      @Zion349 2 роки тому +24

      I was hoping to see the whiff that happened with Mario ! Why 😂

    • @madeuinheavan108
      @madeuinheavan108 2 роки тому

      @@GucciPucciMIH wym

  • @HappyPotat
    @HappyPotat 2 роки тому +695

    What makes Steve's final smash so great is the random as fuck zombie caught in the cobwebs making the scene look like Sakurai just built and recorded the scene authentically in minecraft itself.

    • @RekRakJat
      @RekRakJat 2 роки тому +112

      That's exactly what he did, you can tell it's just a Minecraft recording and it's amazing.
      The only thing about it I'd change is having Steve look on at the destruction while eating the steak, instead of facing the camera. Maybe at the end, have him turn towards it.

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 2 роки тому +65

      @@RekRakJat But cool guys don't look at explosions. :X

    • @CaribbeanOlympian
      @CaribbeanOlympian 2 роки тому +7

      @@sinteleon ^This.

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 2 роки тому +12

      @@RekRakJat if he was looking at the explosion that would take away the badassery

    • @joshm9363
      @joshm9363 2 роки тому +7

      Never noticed that at all but it makes a lot of sense.

  • @neoshenlong
    @neoshenlong 2 роки тому +685

    The fact that they perfectly recreated Persona 5's all out attack even including different victory screens if you win the battle with it is absolutely a 10/10

    • @K7TZ
      @K7TZ 2 роки тому +28

      Yea I was pissed how he didn’t put joker as 10/10 but cloud did

    • @joelnascimento6675
      @joelnascimento6675 2 роки тому +52

      @@K7TZ because he’s biased towards ff7

    • @neotamashi79
      @neotamashi79 2 роки тому +9

      Easily 10/10 I agree, I even love the fact that the sparkle effect for when Joker pulls his glove down in his iconic pose, that it should be blood, so the fact to see like Steve, Sora, Sepiroth, etc. just bleeding to death, and instant, “GAME!”, I just find that funny lmao-

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 4 місяці тому

      Not perfectly
      They sped it up for a pointless reason

  • @RadiantMantra
    @RadiantMantra 2 роки тому +859

    On Joker's FS
    "It's mostly is established on like UI/visual flair"
    Accurate representation of Persona then.

    • @n4riko
      @n4riko 2 роки тому +7

      i skipped to the middle of the video and he exactly said that while reading this comment ??

    • @matchanavi
      @matchanavi 2 роки тому +3

      @@n4riko this comment is quoting him

    • @demi-fiendoftime3825
      @demi-fiendoftime3825 2 роки тому +14

      Greetings doom guy you excited for SMT 5

    • @RadiantMantra
      @RadiantMantra 2 роки тому +8

      @@demi-fiendoftime3825 Hell yea baby

    • @blackmanwhitesuit
      @blackmanwhitesuit 2 роки тому +22

      This --might be-- is the most I've disagreed with Max's ratings. I felt he undervalued how great the P5 copies the style of the game AND had the game end screen similar to Sora. I felt he overvalued Terry's super, because it's nice for fighting game players, but it's not that interesting.

  • @LupineHero
    @LupineHero 2 роки тому +710

    "That didn't stop them with Bayonetta."
    Actually, they really tried. She got nerfed REALLY HARD... and was still the best character in the game. It's frightening to think how bad it would have been if they hadn't.

    • @MasterKcoop
      @MasterKcoop 2 роки тому +20

      Ok but why’d they nerf her taunts.

    • @DigiTensei
      @DigiTensei 2 роки тому +67

      Not only was she nerfed in the first balance patch after her release, the second and last balance patch after her release was literally only about her with a whole page of nerfs lmao.

    • @5thkiechannel
      @5thkiechannel 2 роки тому

      She at least has a kill jab now thankfully so I would say she’s mid or low high tier

    • @IamNster
      @IamNster 2 роки тому +13

      Nah I was there when she got nerfed. The "nerfs" were at best a slap on the wrist. Iirc they were like "less hitstun on fair" or some shit. They really didnt do anything to address the actual problem with her, being the 0-deaths off of a counter/single neutral win

    • @PurpleSkiesRF
      @PurpleSkiesRF 2 роки тому +14

      @@IamNster One of the big nerfs was a change in the knockback angle on her qcf aerial side b. They basically ripped off an entire combo branch which really didn't amount to anything because of her other existing options anyway. They essentially gave you a smaller variety of ways to zero to death people.

  • @brendanb2982
    @brendanb2982 2 роки тому +466

    Max using the vine boom shook me more than it should've.

    • @jojak0512
      @jojak0512 2 роки тому +7

      Wait, when did that happen? I might just desensitized to it at this point and didn't notice honestly.

    • @brendanb2982
      @brendanb2982 2 роки тому +19

      @@jojak0512 0:54

    • @zaciorfida-costanzo706
      @zaciorfida-costanzo706 2 роки тому

      You got a time stamp?

    • @alternateA
      @alternateA 2 роки тому +3

      I thought he hired an editor to compile his UA-cam vids?

    • @rsotuyo8180
      @rsotuyo8180 2 роки тому

      Isn't it called the THUD SFX?

  • @JozannaHanawalt
    @JozannaHanawalt 2 роки тому +504

    It is literally impossible for Max to be unbiased about anything FFVII related in another game. 12/10. XD
    Sephiroth’s super is great, though. I would rate Joker’s higher than an 8/10, just based on style and flair alone, and I don’t even play the game.

    • @BloodLegaZ
      @BloodLegaZ 2 роки тому +52

      Joker's is a 12/10 for that sparkle effect. I remember laughing so hard when I first seen that because fans know that should be blood. AMD the thought of having Mario, minecraft steve, and freaking Sephiroth bleeding out in the background is just too darn good.

    • @galaxy_kitten95
      @galaxy_kitten95 2 роки тому +6

      I’m not even into Persona and I would give Joker’s super a high 10 on the visuals alone. 💯

    • @user-dm8il9ew9t
      @user-dm8il9ew9t 2 роки тому +2

      joker is a 0/10 to me in everything

    • @empty9926
      @empty9926 2 роки тому +2

      @@user-dm8il9ew9t liking your own comment

    • @user-dm8il9ew9t
      @user-dm8il9ew9t 2 роки тому +1

      @@empty9926 Believe it or not, I didn't. There is someone on UA-cam who agrees with me

  • @kangarapps368
    @kangarapps368 2 роки тому +624

    I think Plants is pretty cool considering it’s a reference to a boss in Brawl and Joker’s is a 10 as well because it’s literally a 1-1 copy of the All Out Attack in P5.

    • @KaminariHouse
      @KaminariHouse 2 роки тому +14

      He's mostly (besides Cloud) going on pure visuals and what is being done to the opponent, not referential stuff though.

    • @KaminariHouse
      @KaminariHouse 2 роки тому +15

      @AT Productions That's why I said _besides_ Cloud.

    • @megamecha7599
      @megamecha7599 2 роки тому +8

      They got the va for each character in Joker’s too

    • @crunchy8832
      @crunchy8832 2 роки тому +11

      @@aman541 Stars lowkey fit better imo

    • @Impalingthorn
      @Impalingthorn 2 роки тому +4

      Did you just call Petey Pirahna a Brawl reference...

  • @UltimaShadowX
    @UltimaShadowX 2 роки тому +349

    To answer your question, Max. I assume we will get a handful of spirits and balance patches now, but in terms of big content updates, we're done. Smash 4 had several balance patches after Bayonetta released.

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 2 роки тому +15

      I think we only got one or two balance patches post-Bayonetta back during 3DS/Wii U, so I'd imagine that the same will happen here post-Sora.

    • @superbeta1716
      @superbeta1716 2 роки тому +1

      Didn't Bayo get nerfed once?

    • @fernandobanda5734
      @fernandobanda5734 2 роки тому +13

      @@superbeta1716 She was immediately nerfed and then there was another patch dedicated only to nerfing her beyond the initial thing

    • @bornabrawler
      @bornabrawler 2 роки тому +1

      Pardon me for the cringe comment, but we are for sure a future patch to some extent because they didn't add all of the event Spirits to the Spirit Board and Shop, meaning a new patch will have to come out to make those available. I know I'm the only person who cares, but yeah, we will definitely get another small patch (which may include fighter changes).

    • @TheNamekianClown
      @TheNamekianClown 2 роки тому

      @@bornabrawler All of the previous event spirits are definitely in the regular pool already. Razewing Ratha, Sakuna, Dread, etc, they are all there.
      I do agree though there will probably be more balance patches and fingers crossed for more spirit events as well.

  • @SquidwardProfilePic
    @SquidwardProfilePic 2 роки тому +241

    Biases aside the best final smash is definitely Ridley. The Samus ship is literally in the background exploding and falling afterwards.

    • @fendelphi
      @fendelphi 2 роки тому +13

      I also really enjoy K.Rool's for the sheer over-the-top of it all.

    • @aidenmb7932
      @aidenmb7932 2 роки тому +4

      I have bias on ridley's because hes my main and my favorite character in metroid

    • @bleepblock2177
      @bleepblock2177 2 роки тому +2

      @@aidenmb7932 same man

  • @weebsquit347
    @weebsquit347 2 роки тому +342

    Joker and Sephiroth's final smash are my favorites.
    All out Attack is stylish and Supernova is always a spectacle.
    But without a doubt, all DLC Final Smash attacks are super flashy and cinematic. There's just something so cool about using a character's already familiar ultimate attack on another character.
    You can use Supernova on a poor Pikachu. And that same Pikachu can use his gen 4's Volt Tackle on Ken Masters, and so on and so on.
    I feel like we don't appreciate these as much.

    • @ayar2
      @ayar2 2 роки тому +7

      Yo Videogames certainly does, thats why their smash content is my favorite, no over analyzing things like frame data, just some dudes having a literal "Blast" with the game.

    • @bruhm0ment6000
      @bruhm0ment6000 2 роки тому +4

      They put the effort to remake safer sephiroth when we haven't seen his angelic form for over 20 years

    • @blackmanwhitesuit
      @blackmanwhitesuit 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, reminds me of the DLC supers of Samurai Showdown for comparison. The DLCs, even the weak ones in Min-Min and Pyra, were decent. Joker and Seph supers are just so good

    • @Saben.C-Spoon
      @Saben.C-Spoon 2 роки тому +2

      I think about that last part all the time
      I was playing as Sora vs like Banjo or something on the Tekken stage and I was like "holy shit this is a real video game" and I have had these kinds of moments since Ultimate's release

    • @andred.3687
      @andred.3687 2 роки тому

      We really don’t, it’s amazing honestly :)

  • @Jev619
    @Jev619 2 роки тому +319

    Max with FF7 stuff: "This is quite possibly the greatest thing humanity has ever achieved!! 69/10!"
    Max with literally anything else: "Eh.. it was okay. 7/10."

  • @yugijak
    @yugijak 2 роки тому +187

    0:55
    Max's face for that The Rock meme is great

  • @doom3926
    @doom3926 2 роки тому +44

    I agree on Sephiroth.
    Regardless of whether what you’re seeing in that final smash is technically an illusion, the fact that Smash has a super where you can see, on-screen that the Earth gets fucking blown up is pretty wild.

    • @StarlightMagician
      @StarlightMagician 2 роки тому +4

      And at least the cinematic doesn't take two whole minutes to play out like the original game.

    • @arielgonzalez008
      @arielgonzalez008 2 роки тому +2

      But it's still the longest Final Smash in the game, at 8 seconds

    • @Balfour715
      @Balfour715 2 роки тому +4

      According to the guides, Supernova isn't an illusion. It works like a summon of him pulling you into an alternate dimension where stuff is already happening. Now is it actually as powerful as a real one? Can't tell you but the attack is legit

  • @mikeheath4916
    @mikeheath4916 2 роки тому +95

    For Hero it always stays the same except for the Hero you're playing as. The characters alongside Hero are the protagonists from the DQ games that didn't make it into Smash.

    • @christianlopez707
      @christianlopez707 2 роки тому +9

      The only thing that changes is the scream that Hero makes.

  • @ikarainijirai4285
    @ikarainijirai4285 2 роки тому +58

    Steve's is underrated because he actually taunts TWICE when he hits you with it; one with him eating the meat and two when he starts teabagging at you when the cutscene ends

  • @587DeathKing
    @587DeathKing 2 роки тому +72

    Mega Man's final smash was so good they re-used it twice for the DLC characters.

    • @therivermarquis
      @therivermarquis 2 роки тому +10

      As someone who's favorite franchise is Dragon Quest I'm glad they did. Mega Man has the best final smash from the roster and it's not even close

    • @christianlopez707
      @christianlopez707 2 роки тому +7

      I mean it's a pretty cool idea. Getting every protagonist in a series come together for a grand attack is just pure awesome.

    • @Geneolgia
      @Geneolgia 2 роки тому +4

      Can't blame them, those final smashes were a bunch of other characters beat the shit out of the opponent are the best ones.

  • @squilly.w
    @squilly.w 2 роки тому +367

    Joker will always be 10/10 regardless to me
    It's the most flashy and sick looking super in the game

    • @superbeta1716
      @superbeta1716 2 роки тому +66

      It's easy a 10/10 and I have not even played Persona 5, if Max talked about how Cloud is a 1-1 exact recreation from Advent Children and has a 10 then Joker should also have a 10 since it's also an exact recreation from P5

    • @knsmovieman9971
      @knsmovieman9971 2 роки тому +10

      @@superbeta1716 he just said he was bias so I’ll let it slide.

    • @djhero0071
      @djhero0071 2 роки тому +47

      He is ABSOLUTELY biased (which he is well within his right to be). He also knows absolutely nothing about Persona which probably influences why he gave it an 8 (I’m a persona fan who has never played 5 but that shit was a 10/10 all day and twice on Sunday).

    • @knsmovieman9971
      @knsmovieman9971 2 роки тому

      @@djhero0071 I would give it a 10 but since I put 800+ hours into Persona 5 Royal, I saw it a billion times. So I gave it a 8/10.

    • @SuperFusionAJ93
      @SuperFusionAJ93 2 роки тому +1

      @@superbeta1716
      It’s Bullshit Blazing

  • @richie404
    @richie404 2 роки тому +126

    Banjo, Joker, Terry, Sephiroth, Steve and Sora final smash are my favorites ones.
    But Terry is just too badass.

    • @tyrantravealpha
      @tyrantravealpha 2 роки тому +19

      The combination of Geyser, Dunk and WULF is just too awesome.

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 2 роки тому +8

      HERE IS THE BIG ONE

    • @tyrantravealpha
      @tyrantravealpha 2 роки тому +6

      @@KevSB07 BUSTAH WULF

    • @tylerreardon5866
      @tylerreardon5866 2 роки тому +6

      I just love how ferocious his voice is

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 2 роки тому

      POWWAAH GEEYZAAAA!!!!

  • @ten7554
    @ten7554 2 роки тому +81

    Games Max hasnt played: its referential
    Games he has: TEN OUTTA TENNNNN

  • @icedcapplord710
    @icedcapplord710 2 роки тому +90

    All Out Attack is my favorite purely because of the extra detail of it cutting to the results if it K.O.'s everyone else on their last stock like the after-battle screen in Persona 3-5. It's fucking amazing. Sephiroth would be my favorite if it lasted a full minute like it does in FFVII

    • @jignjorf9076
      @jignjorf9076 2 роки тому +10

      All Out Attack has probably the most effort put into it because of the different combinations of character portraits and voice lines used at random, as well as the detail of finishing a match with it
      How Hero's was given a point higher than it is beyond me tbh

  • @CatastropheX0
    @CatastropheX0 2 роки тому +214

    Joker's super is a 12/10 to the people who played the game.

    • @StyleshStorm
      @StyleshStorm 2 роки тому +5

      a shame his game is pedo bait

    • @ShintaTakama
      @ShintaTakama 2 роки тому +18

      @@StyleshStorm A reminder that the game is also targeted against adults who are shit in society.

    • @theblackswordsman5051
      @theblackswordsman5051 2 роки тому +6

      Played the game. It’s a 9 instead of 10 for the sparkles

    • @yarution367
      @yarution367 2 роки тому +25

      @@StyleshStorm This makes zero sense to say

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому +13

      @@StyleshStorm uh.. what? huh? How?

  • @trevorghalt1881
    @trevorghalt1881 2 роки тому +31

    Max: It was a Tekken 7 out of 10
    Me: Dang, that was clean

  • @seandavis9320
    @seandavis9320 2 роки тому +95

    How is Cloud's a ten and Joker's not a ten? C'mon Max... I love FF7 and I've never played P5, but that's just silly. Joker has the sickest FS in the game. It literally has a special ending.

    • @EinDose
      @EinDose 2 роки тому +18

      If Joker wanted a 10/10, he should've recreated a scene from Final Fantasy 7 expanded universe material. That's just what it takes, Max doesn't make the rules.

    • @user-dm8il9ew9t
      @user-dm8il9ew9t 2 роки тому +1

      joker is a 0/10 to me, just like everything else in his fighter pack.

    • @Danewd98sChannelgaming
      @Danewd98sChannelgaming 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-dm8il9ew9t nah, man. You are being too generous, Jokers stage isn't a compete 1/1 recreation of mementos do I'm gonna have to give his FS a -5/10

    • @DMFDan2
      @DMFDan2 2 роки тому +1

      You don’t have to pretend Joker’s final smash is the best in the game. King K Rool and Ridley are literally right there lol

    • @yaboiiunclephil1552
      @yaboiiunclephil1552 2 роки тому

      @@DMFDan2 Big goofy lasers that arent cool

  • @nathee3719
    @nathee3719 2 роки тому +41

    My boy Max rated the 1 to 1 recreation of P5 all out attack an 8

    • @ninjaruss4205
      @ninjaruss4205 2 роки тому +1

      If you played P5 it's the best xD

    • @gasparguruoftime5475
      @gasparguruoftime5475 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah I haven’t even played P5 and I was pretty shocked he gave it less than a 9. For me it’s an 11.

    • @c0mplex_Ale
      @c0mplex_Ale 2 роки тому +2

      @@gasparguruoftime5475 And the slashy slashy Cloud Final Smash is clearly an unbiased 10/10

    • @gasparguruoftime5475
      @gasparguruoftime5475 2 роки тому +3

      @@c0mplex_Ale I mean, the Advent Children update of it is a legit 11/10 for me too. The original one is kinda just ok. Doesn’t resemble the OG game very much.

  • @ego2133
    @ego2133 2 роки тому +101

    I've never played Persona but I feel like Joker's Final Smash clearly deserved a 10/10.

    • @monkakonga4305
      @monkakonga4305 2 роки тому +1

      It's just the move from p5, with no changes. It would be like giving ryu's shin shoryuken a 10/10.

    • @Bhubnipz
      @Bhubnipz Рік тому +4

      Man what
      I felt like 8 was inflated, there isn’t any impact to it and the ending is literally nothing

  • @KingKP96
    @KingKP96 2 роки тому +29

    The great thing about Smash is almost every Final Smash is a 10/10 to someone.
    Like Joker is an EASY 11/10 for me being such a perfect recreation of the All-Out Attack combined with the fact that all of the P5 party members outside Akechi can show up during it. Then you add the special victory screen for killing with it and it's a 15/10.
    So much love and attention to detail was put into this content that a fan of any series can look at their favorite character and just be proud of the work Sakurai and his team put into all of this.

    • @pondscum9363
      @pondscum9363 2 роки тому

      Unless you're a sonic fan. Or a Kirby fan

    • @onewingedakuma6835
      @onewingedakuma6835 2 роки тому +2

      Talk about biased towards Persona 5

    • @RSproductions3425
      @RSproductions3425 2 роки тому

      @@pondscum9363 well, Sonic''s final Smash is Reference to Sonic Generations when you get S - Rank as Super Sonic. ıt's not an "Whoa" reference but it made me smile.

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 2 роки тому

      @@pondscum9363 Kirby's fs is fine. Who said otherwise

    • @KingKP96
      @KingKP96 2 роки тому +3

      @@onewingedakuma6835 talk about a completely redundant comment.
      It's not biased to like something or be impressed with it. Max giving Sephiroth such massive scores don't have to be seen as biased when everything about them is genuinely really good.
      How did you find a way to be a complete tool on a completely positive comment?

  • @rosenrot234
    @rosenrot234 2 роки тому +9

    It was so cute when Ripley started making noise in the background so the chat was just "I HEAR BABY" lol

  • @facepwnagewtf
    @facepwnagewtf 2 роки тому +22

    I think Sheik actually has the coolest looking Final Smash in the entire game.

  • @zaden9009
    @zaden9009 2 роки тому +65

    Of course, everyone will grade the supers higher than they are for the characters we like.

    • @StarkMaximum
      @StarkMaximum 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah a lot of people complaining Max rated things too low are fans of that thing. I assure you everyone in his chat ranking Kazuya's 8-10/10 were all Tekken fans. It's hard not to love the thing you love.

    • @codered1132
      @codered1132 2 роки тому

      @@StarkMaximum that’s what I’m saying lol

    • @DeLuxonn
      @DeLuxonn 2 роки тому +5

      @@StarkMaximum I mean he definitely did rate Joker's FS too low. I'm not even a persona fan and I'm still impressed that they recreated the thing from the game and even gave it a unique win screen, if that doesn't deserve a 10 then I don't know what does.

    • @kujakubes241
      @kujakubes241 2 роки тому

      @@DeLuxonn after an AOA it’ll actually do that, that makes a 10 on the spot

    • @whatastandupguy3050
      @whatastandupguy3050 2 роки тому

      @@DeLuxonn Wow they made the thing from the game, that’s unique and creative. Except wait it’s actually the opposite of that.

  • @papaG6423
    @papaG6423 2 роки тому +9

    Safer Sephiroth hits you with the power of ALGEBRA!

  • @Medleypon
    @Medleypon 2 роки тому +23

    Alright, but what if they wanted to be REALLY faithful and make Supernova two minutes long?

    • @EinDose
      @EinDose 2 роки тому +2

      Two minutes long and literally can't kill.

  • @rchoung34
    @rchoung34 2 роки тому +14

    I really hope the best of 2021 video has the part where Max missed Joker's final smash and just stared at the camera. That shit was hilarious

  • @kingleonidas2182
    @kingleonidas2182 2 роки тому +83

    I dropped everything to be here . I need this.

    • @JKDoodleJack
      @JKDoodleJack 2 роки тому +9

      Same. I feel closure knowing Max gets to finally gets rate ALL the supers

  • @SuperFusionAJ93
    @SuperFusionAJ93 2 роки тому +37

    3:08
    Akechi: That's quite the funny joke. It makes me want to puke

  • @5715klin
    @5715klin 2 роки тому +29

    3:19 It's mostly established on UI/visual flare
    5:01 It's just really effective camera angles and really cool shots
    If it ain't exactly what P5 and the newer KOF are, respectively

    • @chowellith
      @chowellith 2 роки тому +6

      He praises the Sephiroth one so much but its probably the worst "movie" one in this video. The timing is so damn fast it robs the explosion of any actual impact.

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +4

      @@chowellith At least its more visually interesting than byleth's.

    • @chowellith
      @chowellith 2 роки тому

      @@Hatsworthful True

    • @5715klin
      @5715klin 2 роки тому +1

      @@chowellith He's free to have his own opinions and biases. Though I wasn't criticizing Max either, just reaffirming these points because it exactly explains the design philosophies for the respective game's supers and thought it was interesting, with persona's limited animation combined with spectacular UI and FX design and what KOF14 and 15 does to enhance supers that otherwise would've just been a chain of specials

    • @captainmega6310
      @captainmega6310 2 роки тому

      @@chowellith well that's just kunda wrong, but we can be wrong sometimes

  • @LnktheWolf
    @LnktheWolf 2 роки тому +9

    Dude I didnt forget that Piranha Plant is in this game, he's one of my mains! That little potted plant bastard is stupid fun for some reason and I love it

  • @Regolant1
    @Regolant1 2 роки тому +46

    I swear to god, your bias sometimes hurts my soul max.

  • @SlimReaper04
    @SlimReaper04 2 роки тому +20

    Max saying Cloud’s FS is a 10/10 “unbiased” because it recreated the scene from Advent Children…
    But he gives Joker FS, a recreation from Persona 5 with UI and visual flare, an 8/10…
    But of course “the references don’t make it more flashy”

    • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
      @sarcasticsuperjerk18 2 роки тому +4

      “His opinion differs from mine, so he’s wrong” is what I heard.

    • @StyleshStorm
      @StyleshStorm 2 роки тому +3

      Inhale that copium.

    • @bigwave1713
      @bigwave1713 2 роки тому +5

      @@sarcasticsuperjerk18 The issue I have is the “Unbiased” part. Max a lot of the times act like he is unbiased, but he is really not. Which is fine but just say something like “this is my opinion”

    • @linkonar7823
      @linkonar7823 2 роки тому +4

      @@bigwave1713 The thing is no one can be truly unbiased. We as human beings think and express ourselves with any degree of feeling and depth no matter the circumstance. It’s ridiculous when someone is trying to say they’re being completely unbiased about anything when that isn’t true. There’s always a certain level of bias in anything.

    • @VeryOriginalNickname_
      @VeryOriginalNickname_ 2 роки тому +2

      Am I the only one who saw the "unbiased" part as sarcasm?

  • @707zacbuster
    @707zacbuster 2 роки тому +14

    Kazuya final smash would've been a 10/10 if he did his 10 hit combo into earth wind god fisting you into the air then finishing you off with devil beam. It's a 6 for me

  • @gruggedup9083
    @gruggedup9083 2 роки тому +3

    Some i can agree with but my personal favorite is Terry’s. I haven’t even played any game he is in and it’s still my favorite. The camera angle, the voice acting, the timing of buster wolf. It’s pure gold.

  • @AriaKyuKyu
    @AriaKyuKyu 2 роки тому +39

    Not fair, Sephiroth had an easy win because he is too biased to FF 7 xD

    • @andimari9194
      @andimari9194 2 роки тому +7

      Well I mean even objectively it’s a 10/10. It’s like the best super in the game

    • @Jfray252
      @Jfray252 2 роки тому +9

      Sephiroth has one of the most impressive final Smash, however for cloud he is clearly biased and for mention FF7 is also my favorite game of all time but cloud is meh...

    • @PortalTraveler
      @PortalTraveler 2 роки тому +15

      Of course Sephiroth's is amazing but you know it's biased when he rates Joker's Final Smash lower than Hero's.

    • @taemmate
      @taemmate 2 роки тому +1

      @@PortalTraveler true

    • @cocoearmuffs6207
      @cocoearmuffs6207 2 роки тому

      never played ff7 but Sephiroth's special was dope(9 or 10/10)! Cloud was a point or two too high by being a 10/10(probably a 7 or 8 for me) and joker deserved a 9/10 or 10/10 imo or at least tied with Sephiroth. The chat imo for Kazuya was very biased(they said 9 or 10/10) and almost seemed like they were trying to please max by trying to be fans of the FGC(and in doing so to please max's love for FGC) and fortunately max still gave an honest opinion for Kazuya which was a 6 to 7/10 because 10/10s are way to high for that final smash even for tekken fans.

  • @RivalLinkVO
    @RivalLinkVO 2 роки тому +40

    The FF7 bias is strong in this video.

  • @BlazerK1914
    @BlazerK1914 2 роки тому +38

    Cloud’s SUPER is Advent Children all over again. AWESOME 👏🏼

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому

      Advent Children is the 'Other M' of Final Fantasy 7
      Change my mind.

    • @BlazerK1914
      @BlazerK1914 2 роки тому +2

      @@Zangelin
      I’m not a big Final Fantasy fan, I simply enjoyed that movie.

    • @raiderrayer5195
      @raiderrayer5195 2 роки тому

      @@Zangelin oh shut up

    • @davidgrimaldo2861
      @davidgrimaldo2861 Рік тому

      @@Zangelin honestly you’re right since both of them massacred their protagonist’s character and did irreparable damage to their respective franchise.

  • @SlamBolts
    @SlamBolts 2 роки тому +43

    Watching this live was painful, the chat kept saying dumb stuff misleading Max into the wrong menus and settings

    • @rancorious7785
      @rancorious7785 2 роки тому +9

      FGC fans when smash

    • @RokushoTheRavager
      @RokushoTheRavager 2 роки тому +3

      That's why it went to emote mode several times, because Smash fans are complete morons.

    • @pumpdaddyg
      @pumpdaddyg 2 роки тому

      @@RokushoTheRavager
      MOST Smash fans are morons, not all of us are. Don’t put all of us with them

    • @RokushoTheRavager
      @RokushoTheRavager 2 роки тому +4

      @@pumpdaddyg Most yes, but I'm also a Smash fan myself. Been playing Smash since the N64, I just don't interact with the community because I have no respect for it. When I see people threatening to delete the game over 1 character they don't like or didn't want out of 89, I completely stop listening to anything they have to say.

    • @Xedllin
      @Xedllin 2 роки тому

      @@RokushoTheRavager imagine encountering a comment on a totally different game saying "you're opinion is shit because you're a fan of Sora in SSBU"
      like really? that's your counterargument to a comment about a mobile game that doesn't have anything to do with either Sora or Smash....

  • @gtzice
    @gtzice 2 роки тому +7

    I thought joker final smash would have been a 10 /10 based off the way Max uses persona sound effects in his vids lol

  • @TheAaaaaaaaaad12
    @TheAaaaaaaaaad12 2 роки тому +13

    this rating is basically, if it's not Final fantasy, it's mostly 8 and below.

  • @Anthonystuff1
    @Anthonystuff1 2 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this for years! Your Smash 4's rate the supers was how I found you

  • @Gamermario-lb3rq
    @Gamermario-lb3rq 2 роки тому +18

    I wish there were patches to update final smashes because Daisy, Young Link, Robin, and Byleth really need it.

  • @kingkeeper3570
    @kingkeeper3570 2 роки тому +35

    Max: “you don’t remember that piranha plant exists”
    Me (a plant main): “piranha who?”

    • @zichithefox4781
      @zichithefox4781 2 роки тому +2

      Plant is my "for fun" main. If I'm not taking it seriously, it's Plant or Dedede.

    • @kingkeeper3570
      @kingkeeper3570 2 роки тому +1

      @@zichithefox4781 dedede is my for fun character as well funny enough

    • @zichithefox4781
      @zichithefox4781 2 роки тому +1

      @@kingkeeper3570 Hah, nice.

  • @sapphire5780
    @sapphire5780 2 роки тому +9

    I'm suprised Byleth's Final Smash ranked higher than Pyra and Mythra and as much as some others. It's just a big hit with the Sothis png in the background. Not even a good reference to anything in Three Houses.

    • @RaK0
      @RaK0 2 роки тому

      Pyra's Final Smash is just lame and bland.

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +4

      @AT Productions planetary detonation (and an actually good reference) > palutenajr.png + pan tool > pyra/mytrha's final smash.
      Wouldn't even call p/m's final smash bad, just too basic.

    • @parkedbusfish8259
      @parkedbusfish8259 2 роки тому +3

      @@RaK0 Nah. They took her LV4 blade special from the original game and gave it some cinematic flair. Easy 8/10.

    • @alexanderkosten7611
      @alexanderkosten7611 2 роки тому +4

      @Lux Ignis I'm an extremely adamant Byleth defender, and even then... I think sothis.png is utterly indefensible as a Final Smash. Everything about it looks extremely low-quality, like a Brawl or Sm4sh Final Smash got ported directly to the new engine without remembering to update the particle effects or resolution. I certainly can't agree with putting down Min Min's one to elevate it, either.

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +4

      @Lux Ignis The idea of using byleth's top attack and cranking it up even further is really cool on paper, but they did a pretty shite job at it. If they at least made the powering up part be more cinematic and dynamic instead of "haha sothis.png goes wheee" it would have been a 7 (or maybe more).

  • @BlamedAxis
    @BlamedAxis 2 роки тому

    I’ve been waiting patiently for this, the time has come

  • @KingDXVI
    @KingDXVI 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like if Kazuya's had the explosion at the end like it did in T7, it could've been up a little more

  • @sonymicronin
    @sonymicronin 2 роки тому +7

    The best part of Sephiroth, Final Smash is the damn equations. Imagine being both physically nuked by a Supernova and mentally nuked by his sick ass theorems and math 😂

  • @JTown465
    @JTown465 2 роки тому +11

    There was an interview where Sakurai said their still working on more balance changes after Sora's release, but part of the team is already starting to transfer to different projects

  • @HKT-4300
    @HKT-4300 10 місяців тому

    My favourite part about Sephiroth's final smash is that the first shot perfectly recreates the battle with Safer Sephiroth with both the camera angle and where the characters are standing, espeically if you manage to hit 3 opponents with it, they stand there exactly like the party in FFVII does right before they get Supernova'd

  • @AtrumNuntius
    @AtrumNuntius 2 роки тому +4

    I mean it's hard to beat Sephiroth's cause it was essentially a flashier version of his Japanese Supernova from FF7 and he blows up the freaking sun and the Earth to get you.

  • @christianlopez707
    @christianlopez707 2 роки тому +7

    Interesting how the Square Enix characters got the best final Smashes.

  • @HellfireComms
    @HellfireComms 2 роки тому +16

    Banjo's is a perfectly fair score. I like Sora's for being so simple (and clean) even if there's a TON of stuff you could've used for his FS.

  • @sappydapd4092
    @sappydapd4092 2 роки тому +1

    What a nice fella, that Sephiroth guy. Sending a meteor to smash into and destroy a planet, such a kind gesture. The thought and effort, that’s just so unbelievably kind.

  • @fapuloes
    @fapuloes 2 роки тому +1

    The final smash of piranha plant is kinda neat because it resembles the first boss fight in Brawl. Nothing too crazy but I love whenever smash is referencing itself instead of other franchises

  • @demilung
    @demilung 2 роки тому +11

    Considering Joker's had different variants with different characters, voice lines and UI, and P5 all-out attack is stylish AF I'd rate it higher.
    But I am a Persona player.

  • @luxraygaming2300
    @luxraygaming2300 2 роки тому +17

    Alright Max, I love you, but Hero's does not deserve to be a higher rank than Jokers, lol. Jokers is just straight up a 10/10 imo. It's a perfect recreation, it actually effects the end card if you win with it... yeah, it's amazing.

  • @heatxsoul841
    @heatxsoul841 2 роки тому +1

    that "reminder that he exists" that max says for piranha goes for me with baby bowser xD dont know why but i always forgett that he is in the game

  • @isaiahtorok7079
    @isaiahtorok7079 2 роки тому +2

    Terry has my favorite final smash! I love how it feels to land

  • @TheFirehands150
    @TheFirehands150 2 роки тому +6

    Cloud's is like a VII/X
    It should have been a cutscene with zoom ins against Sephiroth. It's no different than any other slash rush if you dont get the reference.

    • @HermitTFG
      @HermitTFG 2 роки тому

      Honestly, it’s pretty basic. There are so many better supers. I even like that it’s a Advent Children Reference, but it doesn’t ignore that it’s another slashy Smash. He should of gave it the same rating as greninja or Ike. I assume he gave them average rating cause he doesn’t care for those franchises, yet the smashes are identical to Clouds

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому +2

      I see Clouds final smash and all I think is
      "Oh look, it's just Ike's final smash again"

  • @thephoenix2038
    @thephoenix2038 2 роки тому +6

    Sephiroth having the best smash is rightfully deserved

  • @that1jamo
    @that1jamo 2 роки тому +1

    Terry's is still my personal favorite. You're right about the utility, but it feels so good landing one of those for some reason.

  • @djbubblegum9975
    @djbubblegum9975 2 роки тому +2

    I think the only other character with a final smash as good as Sephiroth's is Ridley's. The fact that he smacks the opponent onto the side of Samus' ship and then blows up the ship, killing Samus and whoever his opponent was, is so sick.

  • @gasparguruoftime5475
    @gasparguruoftime5475 2 роки тому +3

    So, we almost certainly won’t get a roster like this in Smash 6.
    However….what if they just ported this game to their next system and added a few more characters? Would that be like a loop-hole that would allow them to keep all these existing ones without having to re-acquire all the rights again, as well as add new characters again? I’m not terribly familiar with if that could work or not.

    • @rayplaysgamesrpg7233
      @rayplaysgamesrpg7233 Рік тому

      No that wouldn't work. You're porting a game, in other words reselling the game, this you'd need to renew the licenses to keep them in. I can see the first party characters like Byleth, Pyra/Mythra, and Min-Min staying in. Everyone else is a maybe or a no.

  • @rocketpajamas6969
    @rocketpajamas6969 2 роки тому +4

    In my opinion
    I think Sora has one of the most underwhelming final smashes, it was hard carried here by the ending KO part which happens normally
    Out of anything they could have chosen to take from Kingdom Hearts, they decided to make him lock someone behind a literal big door, lock the door, then explode it and do a pose
    I just think it could have been so much more

  • @tinybee7780
    @tinybee7780 2 роки тому +2

    "I have a good feeling about this one."
    No surprises there.

  • @khal3121
    @khal3121 2 роки тому +1

    Persona stage has different winning theme depending the stage color (p3, p4 & p5) which is for me, it's awesome detail!

  • @loluser21
    @loluser21 2 роки тому +11

    Max out here saying refferences dont matter, meanwhile hes gushing over ff7 like a baby, lmao

    • @staticshock4239
      @staticshock4239 2 роки тому +1

      Because it's FF7, his favorite game ever.

  • @tormxnta
    @tormxnta 2 роки тому +3

    The fact that you give Piranha plant a 6/10 😭 it’s a ref to Subspace Emissary Piranha Plant

  • @sasukeking4521
    @sasukeking4521 2 роки тому

    The cool thing about clouds new omnislash is that if you put in slow motion Frame by frame at the end the fusion blade actually pieces itself back together!

  • @ceriani1234
    @ceriani1234 2 роки тому +2

    Man gave a j.peg the highest score, but gives Terry a lower score cut "its just camera work".

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому +1

      well you see Terry wasn't in FF7

  • @TheDatabaseNetwork
    @TheDatabaseNetwork 2 роки тому +4

    My favourites from this selection are Cloud, Sephiroth, and Terry Bogard.

  • @keybladewielder230
    @keybladewielder230 2 роки тому +14

    I'm not feeling these ratings overall.
    But Joker's should've been 10/10 for its accuracy and unique flare.

  • @mikaela5938
    @mikaela5938 2 роки тому +1

    there were balance patches after bayonetta released in ssb4 to make her very slightly less ludicrously broken, so there is a chance that there could be more balance changes

  • @nikomiyaminaVODS
    @nikomiyaminaVODS 10 місяців тому +2

    Joker isn't from Final Fantasy, he's from Super Smash Brothers Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch

  • @knsmovieman9971
    @knsmovieman9971 2 роки тому +17

    “From the popular Final Fantasy Series” your bout to piss of the whole fandom lol.

    • @ThaPlaya1994
      @ThaPlaya1994 2 роки тому +14

      I want someone to call Cloud a Persona character unironically just to see Max's reaction.

    • @captainnwalps6689
      @captainnwalps6689 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThaPlaya1994 he probably wouldn’t react

    • @HoodWeegee
      @HoodWeegee 2 роки тому +13

      @@ThaPlaya1994 He'd easily see the bait, lean into it, and give a fake reaction. This dude has been trolling anime and JRPG fans for years. He knows the game lol

  • @mkol1998
    @mkol1998 2 роки тому +6

    Byleth super would be 7 out of 10 if it at least ended with an explosion or something, right now it feels really lackluster

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +2

      Either that or if the buildup to the actual attack wasn't shitty. Like yeah, having sothis power byleth up is rad but it just looks so lame in the way they did it.

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому +5

      the way the Sothis jpeg shakes about and has no animation looks so bad too. I love Three Houses and wish that the FS wasn't so lame. It's like a 3/10

  • @draconds
    @draconds 2 роки тому +1

    Dang, I was just watching your latest smash super rating video yesterday.

  • @red4mario
    @red4mario 2 роки тому

    Maximilian using the “Vine Boom” sfx will always be a core memory in my mind

  • @burntoast2200
    @burntoast2200 2 роки тому +6

    Joker is a 12/10 my fav imo

  • @ajshiro3957
    @ajshiro3957 2 роки тому +4

    Sephiroth does have a sick super. Him, Terry, Kazuya, and Sora i enjoy their supers

  • @_drewtheheadass_
    @_drewtheheadass_ 2 роки тому +1

    THAT BANJO IMPRESSION WAS SO GOOD😂

  • @MusicAnonI
    @MusicAnonI 2 роки тому +1

    Buster Wolf getting an 8 was robbery.
    The impact in that super is sublime. I think it damn sure stands up there with Cloud's "Ragnarok, except he actually did it first".

  • @DarkAura19
    @DarkAura19 2 роки тому +27

    Max, I love you to bits, but if you're really about to claim Joker's final Smash isn't a 10 while also saying Omnislash Very. 5 is, just... Naw bud, haha.

  • @mrcwillis6970
    @mrcwillis6970 2 роки тому +38

    These DLC character supers are just incredible. 👌
    I’d give nearly all these supers 10/10

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +12

      Byleth's super is still a 4/10 though. Could have been a lot better if it wasn't like 80% 'sothis.png'

    • @darylsdog9521
      @darylsdog9521 2 роки тому

      Final smash

    • @knsmovieman9971
      @knsmovieman9971 2 роки тому +2

      @@Hatsworthful it’s a 7 lol.

    • @Hatsworthful
      @Hatsworthful 2 роки тому +3

      @@knsmovieman9971 if you have godawful taste then yeah sure.

    • @knsmovieman9971
      @knsmovieman9971 2 роки тому +5

      @@Hatsworthful it’s fine don’t hate

  • @BlumenCT
    @BlumenCT 2 роки тому

    The thing about the Fire Emblem supers is that when they don't do the critical hit + health bar thing I find myself asking why not. I feel like they should all be trying to build on that to make really cool over-the-top crit animations.

  • @izazombiekiller
    @izazombiekiller 2 місяці тому

    I frickin love terrys. "BUSTA WOLF!" just hits too good man.

  • @1Death2Many
    @1Death2Many 2 роки тому +8

    "Unbiased" who you trying to fool? Lol

  • @JennDouglas
    @JennDouglas 2 роки тому +3

    Skipped the ff7 segments since I already knew what he was gonna rate them. After reading the comments my assumption gets a 10/10.

  • @guydangerus2468
    @guydangerus2468 2 роки тому +1

    Didn't expect this to be so short? After the trailers vid being so long (which I loved) I thought this would be longer too. Ah well still cool.

  • @TrueAuthenticSweets
    @TrueAuthenticSweets 2 роки тому

    The best part about the Supernova is the rumble and sounds the joycons (and maybe the controller idk) make throughout the whole thing

  • @Klonoahedgehog
    @Klonoahedgehog 2 роки тому +3

    I just realized how hilariously out of character Sora's final smash is, like he's just dumping random characters into the Darkness and closing the door behind them so they get killed by Heartless, and it's hilarious that Disney approved of that.

    • @mirzapramudya1580
      @mirzapramudya1580 2 роки тому

      Nah, they'll be fine

    • @Zangelin
      @Zangelin 2 роки тому +3

      That's not the interpretation I had. I figured he's just sealing the door to smash, trapping them in the game forever.