That Mini game was ridiculous. Also, kudos to anyone playing against this guy. His play style looks so infuriating to play against (those zealots in early game).
Its nice there are big enough gaps in ASL games that these give a great filler! Appreciate the casts! Also shows the great quality that basically all these players qualified for ASL15 which is a great achievement, many great players barely missed
Mini vs Queen GOTY. I think his only option was to fight over that middle right base a lot sooner. I'm curious if he had the optimal unit composition or if maybe dark archons could have helped against those flanks.
Sickest week so far.Great casting as always. One side note: I ve played hundreds of pvt and tvp games on Fighting Spirit. (when opponent is toss, i choose terr, and vice versa.) It is unreal how easy it is for terran to take a 3rd base. Almost all my games had 3rd base already under 11 or 10min. Taking Artosis word for it has no weight, as he is just a clown, who doesnt take 3rd base on any map. But i agree, this retro map looks fun, but i dont think it is more balanced than FS.
The reason it is considered rough is because of the long pathway to the third with unbuildable terrain. The tiny ramp into the third base, and the ability of protoss players to put gateway units and reavers up there. It's also because once you get your third and start to move out you have to cross a tiny bridge against and opponent who can spread out and surround your army. As opposed to polypoid which has a 3rd right outside the natural and highground with multiple directions to move out in and wide space to spread tanks. Now dark origin suffers from the problem of bridges towards the center too, but I think it mitigates that by having a path out from the main that leads to a 4th if you kill the temples. It's a really cool map and I can't wait to see more PvT there to see how players adapt.
2:02 this map has been ''sponsored'' by AMD! I can not believe i did not notice that AMD logo before.. Anyway, i finally did catch up! After a YEAR - i had to take job vacation to watch KCM race survival non stop before ASL15 or else i would have never finished the 2022 season 4!
Yes the map was commissioned by AMD and they paid a bunch of pros to play test it as well. Pretty clever marketing, whoever thought it up at AMD is pretty smart.
Thanks for the cast! Another week of great games spoilers for this vid I'm just theorycrafting, but I still don't think 76 is as impossible as it looks. Our 200 IQ Terran Royal had the right idea, the 815 strategy of building up safely to a very mobile Goliath force, 1 port, 1 wraith. Feels like the early game stuff is a change from 815 mostly to give Zerg more of a chance.
As a fan of Brood War, I’m disgusted by the imbalance that 76 has brought to PvT. but as a Protoss player, I think 76 is the best thing since Zealot bombs
Why do terrans even bother doing anything on 76 lmao. Save your hands from carpal tunnel and just gg. Honestly they'd get more views if the terran just started building 5 Ebays at the same time in a show of protest.
I'm a total noob, but what if Queen made just 1-2 guardians when he was holding mid or holding mid right? Seems like they'd have good value and be really hard to interact with outside of storms
guardians in late game zvp are usually made for rushing a high ground position from protoss, quickly sniping reavers or templar so ling/hydra can jump on the cannons. Alternatively they can be used for harassing probes from highground or impassible terrain areas. They are not generally used for defense. Lurker + spore + sunken is usually enough. Thanks for the question David
So salty that mini last that game. He played out of his mind and really deserved to win. PvZ is honstly the most imbalanced matchup and protoss is in bad need of several buffs to make it more fair. Mini outplayed queen like crazy, and queen had no buisness winning that (e.g. after losing 50+ drones)
What's that? LEave angry comments? Okay. For the algorithm: "BOO! TERRAN SUK. CAN"T USE HALF OF ROSTER VS P-Z CHEEZE! BOO!!!!" ...but no seriously, I'm a guy who is ignorant of terran play in Brood war/Starcraft 1, so I don't yet understand how Terran unit comps are supposed to work. Were ghosts and firebats rendered moot? I get the mech play. I'm weirded out how (what I think are) iconic Terran units (ghosts, firebats, and battlecrusiers) aren't there. Ahem, 'aesthetically iconic' I mean. I get it if game and story are two different beasts.
That Mini game was ridiculous. Also, kudos to anyone playing against this guy. His play style looks so infuriating to play against (those zealots in early game).
Its nice there are big enough gaps in ASL games that these give a great filler! Appreciate the casts! Also shows the great quality that basically all these players qualified for ASL15 which is a great achievement, many great players barely missed
Mini vs Queen.
What an epic game! 👏
Queen is such an exciting player to watch. His unit control is tremendous
KCM never disappoints! How can Mini not be your favorite player?!
Mini vs Queen GOTY. I think his only option was to fight over that middle right base a lot sooner. I'm curious if he had the optimal unit composition or if maybe dark archons could have helped against those flanks.
this week is so good man, thank you Saiyan!
Sickest week so far.Great casting as always. One side note: I ve played hundreds of pvt and tvp games on Fighting Spirit. (when opponent is toss, i choose terr, and vice versa.) It is unreal how easy it is for terran to take a 3rd base. Almost all my games had 3rd base already under 11 or 10min. Taking Artosis word for it has no weight, as he is just a clown, who doesnt take 3rd base on any map. But i agree, this retro map looks fun, but i dont think it is more balanced than FS.
The reason it is considered rough is because of the long pathway to the third with unbuildable terrain. The tiny ramp into the third base, and the ability of protoss players to put gateway units and reavers up there. It's also because once you get your third and start to move out you have to cross a tiny bridge against and opponent who can spread out and surround your army.
As opposed to polypoid which has a 3rd right outside the natural and highground with multiple directions to move out in and wide space to spread tanks.
Now dark origin suffers from the problem of bridges towards the center too, but I think it mitigates that by having a path out from the main that leads to a 4th if you kill the temples. It's a really cool map and I can't wait to see more PvT there to see how players adapt.
Fun cast!
Spoilers:
Was hoping to see Stork get a few more games in! I still believe in him
This week's games were superb. Go go Shine! Absolutely steamrolled in his first game.
Omg, Firebathero @35:00! Big respect!
Late game PvZ looks so hard but what a game
2:02 this map has been ''sponsored'' by AMD! I can not believe i did not notice that AMD logo before.. Anyway, i finally did catch up! After a YEAR - i had to take job vacation to watch KCM race survival non stop before ASL15 or else i would have never finished the 2022 season 4!
Yes the map was commissioned by AMD and they paid a bunch of pros to play test it as well. Pretty clever marketing, whoever thought it up at AMD is pretty smart.
Thanks for the cast! Another week of great games
spoilers for this vid
I'm just theorycrafting, but I still don't think 76 is as impossible as it looks. Our 200 IQ Terran Royal had the right idea, the 815 strategy of building up safely to a very mobile Goliath force, 1 port, 1 wraith. Feels like the early game stuff is a change from 815 mostly to give Zerg more of a chance.
Which game do you mean?
@@MeteCanKarahasan ? this vid or what?
Match 7 was dope.
That 76 game was frustrating to watch. Game 7 is easily the best game of the season though!
Nice!
I was laughing earlier today playing TvP knowing that my man Saiyan KCM switched to Zerg so that he can get dey A$$ for us all
Lmao
As a fan of Brood War, I’m disgusted by the imbalance that 76 has brought to PvT. but as a Protoss player, I think 76 is the best thing since Zealot bombs
epic
Why do terrans even bother doing anything on 76 lmao. Save your hands from carpal tunnel and just gg. Honestly they'd get more views if the terran just started building 5 Ebays at the same time in a show of protest.
I'm a total noob, but what if Queen made just 1-2 guardians when he was holding mid or holding mid right? Seems like they'd have good value and be really hard to interact with outside of storms
guardians in late game zvp are usually made for rushing a high ground position from protoss, quickly sniping reavers or templar so ling/hydra can jump on the cannons. Alternatively they can be used for harassing probes from highground or impassible terrain areas. They are not generally used for defense. Lurker + spore + sunken is usually enough. Thanks for the question David
Storms wreck guardians....guardians are too slow to dodge them
dropportunity 👍
How to watch current ASL? Any tips…?
starcast TV channel man
Tastosis released 2 days so far. Just search ASL 15 on UA-cam
Mini vs Queen was so epic it was painful
So salty that mini last that game. He played out of his mind and really deserved to win. PvZ is honstly the most imbalanced matchup and protoss is in bad need of several buffs to make it more fair. Mini outplayed queen like crazy, and queen had no buisness winning that (e.g. after losing 50+ drones)
when tournaments are designed around the audience: the game loses it's soul
this equality stuff is weird and disgusting, besides same players every time, it's like this ash##les are working a job.
cause they are
you guys are draining the soul of a masterful-made game.
what are you talking about?
@@SaiyanKCM i belive the players are paid "actors"
What's that? LEave angry comments? Okay. For the algorithm:
"BOO! TERRAN SUK. CAN"T USE HALF OF ROSTER VS P-Z CHEEZE! BOO!!!!"
...but no seriously, I'm a guy who is ignorant of terran play in Brood war/Starcraft 1, so I don't yet understand how Terran unit comps are supposed to work. Were ghosts and firebats rendered moot? I get the mech play. I'm weirded out how (what I think are) iconic Terran units (ghosts, firebats, and battlecrusiers) aren't there. Ahem, 'aesthetically iconic' I mean. I get it if game and story are two different beasts.
they are there just check some other terran games versus zerg. they make tons of firebats and bcs
@@SaiyanKCM okay. FYI, i'm going on a kick of studying the 'older' games like SC1 and Medieval 2 TW to see what made them classics. It's been a blast.
JD won ASL, sorry for spoilers:)
No, it was Flash! Duh.
why? delete this
@@MundaneDave ASL isn't over.
@@Phantom0123456 Yeah but I haven't seen Group D yet, so this is douchey
@@Phantom0123456 Maybe you misunderstood Saiyan. Spoilers for last ASL are fine, because that's over.
I like how 3 vultures can outkill 3 DTs