what is really nice about this nord grand is the flat top on which could be neat to place pint of beer )) ... wishing such degree of freedom for everyone, just flashed the idea to make ALL future synths upper control panel tipping on joints (not only touch screen) and have such neat beer table there too ))
You Sir...have common sense....NORD DONT MAKE A WORKSTATION...all these clowns on yt trying to do comaparisons with a dam nord against workstations...Next up..."New Nord vs John Deere Tractor "
It not having an onboard sequencer still is something I can not go over. My interest in workstations, as opposed to simple synths, is being able to let the creativity glow and compose on the spot, without having to be tethered to a computer.
Not a popular opinion, I know - but pianos are the least interesting thing a synth/workstation does. We're in 2019 - EVERY major brand does a wonderful signature piano. Yes, minor variances between the manufacturers, but really? A piano review?
@@rasxiel2493 Your call, of course, but you could save a ton of money by going with a good MIDI controller (I love my Studiologic SL88) and a piano like Pianoteq (a modeled piano that will blow you away!) by Modartt
@@cahenglish There are good piano sofware like ravenscroft 275, keyscape, Noire, Pianoteq, but every high end piano yamaha, roland, nord, korg, etc have their thing, and all sound different...
I listened carefully and IMO the Nord has the edge when it comes to piano, although between all them they’re so close that we’re splitting hairs. Choosing monitors or a PA system to play them through will also have a bearing on the tonal reproduction, so you’d have to ensure that they were each played through exactly the same system/set-up in order to achieve an accurate comparison verdict, even then it’d still be close.
I feel the Nord Stage is somehow closest to a real piano, I have been trying it in music shops and I really want one. The Roland has some "pad" feeling to the piano sound, Yahama is somehow thin sounding - lacking some character, and the Kronos piano sound "starts" funny, i.e. somehow not natural. ....difficult to explain. I have the Roland X8 and I like playing it, but I like the key-action better on the Nord and feel Im one step closer to a real piano somehow with it. ...my 5 cents. ;-)
Rolands new Fantom has the easiest UI, very simple and quick access, has great sounds, the montage has a more in depth ui and you will spend more time learning all the features, they both sound great. I dont own the Nord, and the korg kronos is a beast (I sold mine for the montage) but has many layers deep in the ui, I love many of the korg sounds but may not be suited for all users. Its all about preference.
Speaking from my own experience.... (and you need headphones to realize the dynamics that so many sampled pianos lose.) the Nord blows them all out of the water. The tone, especially when sustaining, is just like a real piano. None of the other hardware synths have been able to match that. I can close my eyes and feel like I'm playing a real piano with the Nord. And I've owned Yamaha, Kurzweil and Roland. If you go to Nord's site and listen to the different piano samples, they are all like this. It's pretty amazing.
Daniel Eaton I genuinely don't know how people can't hear the difference. I've listened to countless demos, enough that compression or bad playing doesn't unfairly effect any one keyboard. To my ears, Nord is so far ahead of the competition that I have no choice in what to buy.
Similar to my experience - It took me less than a minute on the Nord in comparison to the Yamaha CP88 and Korg Grandstage and Kronos to realise that the piano sound is just so much more realistic. Particularly with the White Grand sound.
TheBjp0001 funny thing, I still remember to this day, I went into a guitar center for something else, and decided to play the Nord off the cuff. I already had a Motif ES and a Kurzweil module I’d been happy with, but was just curious to hear some sounds and they let me borrow headphones, and I started going through the pianos and was just blown away at the uprights with the resonance turned on... completely took me off guard... I pretty much started looking for a way to afford a Nord that day.
I' don't and I can't own a Nord Grand, and neither have I played one. But as a Piano student in my childhood, (studied it for about 6 years), I cannot agree more with the points Daniel and the others shared here. I'll most probably buy a Roland FP 10 which sounds decent especially for the price; so the need to find a good and affordable keyboard made me here countless demos online. Once, I heard a small peace from Rachmaninoff played in a Nord Grand and I couldn't believe it. It's unimaginable how wonderfully it replicates an acoustic piano, at the point that someone with experience and good musical ear can actually confuse the two. It's incredible indeed! Wish you all well!
I’d take the Roland or Korg for a live band setting, simply because the mids and highs are more pronounced. They’d easily cut through the mix and in the hands of a skilled player and sound engineer, do all of that without being overbearing. Nord and Yamaha take the cake for the most natural sounding. Nord has the edge on expressiveness, Yamaha has a beautiful warm sounding tone. However, these won’t stand out as much in a full band setting. And I’m only talking about the piano patches alright? Cut me some slack.
To be truly objective, one must hear the keyboards without knowing which one the sound came from. Other than doing that, we will always be subjectively bias to what we own or have own.
At this level it becomes completely subjective. They all sound incredible, piano wise, they should for the money. But, IF your goal is strictly a piano nothing can beat a computer. And If you can hear an audible difference your not Human.. Now if each brand used the exact same source piano, that's where their respectable technology would be showcased.. That would be interesting.. They're all great.
All of these keyboards sound great. I think the Korg Kronos sounds best. I have a Kronos and I LOVE it! I would give the Nord Grand second place, and the Roland Fantom 3rd place.They sound very similar, but the Nord just seemed a bit warmer and more natural to me. I didn’t care as much for the Montage. The piano was almost too bright, and not as warm as the others. I own a Yamaha MOXF, and while it had some great sounds, the pianos are not nearly as inspiring as the Kronos pianos.
If people comment that this or that keyboard is great, they should also say why, because it looks like people just have different preferences or perceptions. I have not sampled these keyboards much, but I have noticed that for some reason, many digital pianos sound like door bells to me, except for certain Yamaha digital piano settings; they have a piano sound where I can sense the hammer felt and wood. Maybe people like a loud, bell-like ring from their pianos, but personally I usually prefer the slightly softer sound. Or, maybe I only listened to the cheaper keyboards.
Kronos has the worst UI and sequencer, but many good sound engines. Fantom has the best performance sequencer (Korg Gadget like). Montage seems to be pretty good allrounder. Nord is for stage and piano work, not a workstation.
I agree plus if you buy a Korg, you feel like you're in a desert wasteland, other than the user groups, Korg seems to be more about getting people to buy than support. With Yamaha and Nord, you get passion and support, Yamaha is everywhere, their head demo guy has even helped me once. Don't have the sound you want? Yamaha will find it for you. Roland is in the middle they'll fix issues but your better off with Roland Clan, who respond pretty fast to questions. Wish I could afford a Nord, but I'm sure they have something in place as people continue to buy them.
Roland assure that in RD2000 is based on V-PIANO, but in fact - sound is shit. In Fantom is better but also castrated. Here Nord Grand have best piano sound.
Get one if you want. My problem is that I have one Kurzweil PC3A8, Roland Fantom G8, Korg M3. I hoped There are new good sounds on the FA series. That's not the case.
This comparison can't be taken into account in a professionnal level. For it to be accurate, it would have needed way more control over it's gears and parameters to determine any standart and This is more of a compilation of many people playing synthes using their own unknown gears and (potentially)effects.
Compared them all. Bought the Korg for a reason ;) as a performing keyboarder. But i admit the GUI and OS is not up to date. So, if you're not into yoga and just want a very versatile good piano, the Nord is the go-to keyboard. Great Kawai keybed (it's from the MP11), but i would prefer the Nord Stage 3 as a better comparison to the workstations. I love the sounds (have a Nord Electro just for access to the Nord Piano+Organ sounds - the other Nord samples are crappy as they lack velocity switching). Yamaha is nice and flashy (looks and sounds), but just not my type of instrument. For some reason i cannot explain, Yamaha never won my sympathies. As for Roland - I never played the Fantom much, but the RD-2000 (and had another RD myself for over a decade). My bottom line: Whatever you choose, just invest time to get to KNOW your instrument and program it yourself. And you will get the results you want. It's not just the keyboard, it's the keyboarder.
The nord grand is probably the most accurate then the roland and korg are tied second and the montage was last but as far as other sounds. the montage has a killer string sound. All of these boards are going to offer a variety of patch sounds that will blow the minds of the listener. In the end its about ease of use and comfort level for the player. each keyboard will have pros and cons. Price also can play a big factor. the kronos is a little cheaper price out of all of them because of the release date. but overall all. these boards can sound fantastic mixed in a song or in a live setting.
In this demo, they all sound great--and honestly, all of them are excellent instruments. But I basically own three of them (the Kronos2-88, a Montage8 and a Roland RD-2000) , so I can judge a little. I love both the Roland and the Montage, and it's a close call between them. The Roland has a slightly better action, but the sound is really equally good for both. The Kronos is slightly inferior to these two, both in sound and action. The Nord Grand is probably an excellent piano--maybe even the best of th bunch--but it lacks the other capabilites of the Montage or Kronos, so at $3,500, it's expensive for what it is. If I had to buy just one, I'd probably get: - The Montage for general versatility and sound or, if I needed excellent sequencing and on-board workstation capabilities - The Fantom or, if I mostly just wanted a piano - The Nord, or maybe a Roland RD-2000 for $1000 less.
@@johnnulf624 the v-piano in the fantom and rd 2000 sounds like shit. The original v-piano €6.000,- and the v-piano grand €20.000,-. Sounds great, here in the studio's. Thanks you 👍
Piano sound from yamaha THE BEST! Roland, Korg, Nord are very and very good and, if something is astonishingly for somebody. it's only admirably for anotherbody. Have your choice and have a FUN.
Nord samples are incredible, Yamaha and Korg are also doing great job but we should notice that Kronos is 2015, MONTAGE 2016 and Nord Grand as well as new Roland 2019... I was testing the new Fantom 8 for a week, there is no other so intuitive workstation. It’s true, sounds like Roland but it’s only taste thing. And what for me really cool is, has wooden keyboard!!! So go to a shop and try it before you “compare” those instruments, because this video has unfortunately nothing to do with it...
Between Nord and Kronos. Montage still sound like the motif and fantom, I'm guessing its strengths isn't in the piano patch. It sounds like Juno D piano. But Nord and Kronos, is crazy at the piano patch.
Well just like all honeymoons, the realization that marriage has happened means the real work comes in. Dedication, love and compromises. Don’t just dump it because it ain’t pretty first thing in the morning or gives you a hard time from time to time.
The Yamaha CP300 has always sounded the best to my ears, but the ones here are quite nice, especially the piano of the Nord. As for a workstation, I still enjoy my Oasis and even generations later it can hold its own against these four examples, in most areas.
I think the Nord Grand has the best piano, but that doesn’t mean the others sound bad, quite the contrary. The Nord Grand though has a piano which appeals to me most, the recording of which sounds exactly right.
Hey: they are all monster machines....comparison is relative, since they all sound terrific: I don't have a dog in this fight, although I do own a Kronos, however, after going back and forth several times, the one that was most "PLEASING" ( very subjective word) to my ears, was the Montage.
#1 Roland Fantom. Korg's piano is a dead sound to my ears. Nord is NOT a workstation so out for me. Roland Fantom got the best interface and it is the easiest for live performance with sound changing dynamically. Also, did you see the hardware's back Interfaces of that Fantom? Best of them all and more versatile.
Yamaha has two technologys--AWM--and fm (dx7).Fm gives the famous electric pianos..Roland in my opinion (I dont know the instrument but thinking in what i hear roland fantom is an analog synth with may be a fantom g..and some more efects and arpegiators..I have two roland keyboards one is xp 80 the other is a fantom g....What can i say .I think roland is lost and dont know what to do.....i am really sorry but is what my hears can say...
Im still using my Roland A90 and JV2080 module, through a 400W yamaha powered mixer then a pair of JBL TR225 speakers, it still wipes the floor with all this new equipent. You must let the sound develop through the whole sound reproduction train. Medium weighted keys give you more feed back and control of after touch.
I liked that brightness of the Korg but that Nord sounded so Realistic on the piano sounds. I got a Roland Fantom G7 that i personally still love but damn, that Nord sounded so nice!
Just sample all your favorites and throw em on the Kronos Hard drive. Play em when you want. LOL Everybody always has to have "The New". These overall still can't touch Kronos. Sorry. Did you know yamaha patches can be played on a Kronos? Research it. Already got the Original Fantom X patches on Kronos. Sounds better than the damn Phantom did. :)
@@cap706 I meticulously sampled mine about 7 years ago. 48GB. I mostly use it in Halion. I know theres a dry version for Kontakt about 16.7GB downloadable out there still if you search for it.
As far as I'm concerned, the ONLY fully fledged sequencer and therefore workstation here is the KORG Kronos. If you wanted an all-in-one keyboard that is. All the rest are performance keyboards/synthesizers (or stage piano's in the case of the Nord). Because wasn't the definition of Rich Formidoni on what a workstation actually is, great sounds, great effects and a sequencer when he revealed the KORG M3 back in the day?
roland fantom7 keyboard is crap! the rest is excellent......I choose the montage over the Moog sub37,the deep mind12, and the ob6, very glad I made the decision to sell off the ladder synths
Hi john, I am on the cusp of buying a new board and it is REALLY a tough decision. Back in the day you went to the music store and sat down with the instrument. Its tougher now. Please don;t laugh but the last board I bought (I am also a guitarist so money goes between instruments (12 guitars 2 boards, 2 drum kits, 1 Roland V-Drums, one Pearl acoustic) the last board I purchased was a Korg Trinity - I still LOVE that board!!! (also have my old old (old) faithful Yammy DX-7 FM synth - you just can't synth FM synth (Ha!) But its time to up my board game - is there a particular reason you would go with the Roland? Is it based on the sounds on the instrument, ease of navigation? feel? I am assuming they all have nicely weighted keys.... I am pretty deeply into orchestral productions now, (including tracking). so more interested in fidelity of the patches to specific instruments (pianos, strings, brass, double reed, woodwinds, percussion) (I am a one woman orchestra! LoL) and less the 'synthy" sounds..this really IS a tough decision! My instruments become very much "mine". If you can spare a minute, I would really appreciate your thoughts. And of course I would never part with the Trinity or the DX-7 - I just keep stacking boards and buying guitars LoL - - i am going to take a good close listen- look at the Fantom....THANK you for your time and your thoughts
Cynthia Klenk well for the Kronos is a amazing machine with absolute stunning sounds and possibilities. The downside is the interface. The text is tiny -and there is to much on the screen. The other side is that you can tweak and design any sound you want. The only reason for the Roland would be the interface. Sound wise you can’t go wrong with the Kronos. It was and still is a class on its own. BUT if you want stunning absolutely real orchestral sounds the kurzweil was for me the best out there but that micro size interface puts it down. It was unworkable. But orchestral wise it was absolutely for me the best. You have to consider what you want to do. Do you want to program? You can do that with the Fantom as with the Kronos. Do you want to program with a bit more ease of use I think the Roland would be a better choice now. Purely because of the interface. A really good feature with the Fantom is that there are no modes. So not a special program mode or multi sound mode. There is just one mode and you can do anything in that mode which make it a bit easier.
This is a horses for courses game. If you want a workstation the Roland and the Korg are just fantastic. If you want something that sounds and plays like a piano you will choose something very different. They are all great keys. If you want a piano first and foremost, want to hang onto your hard earned cash, and avoid difficult conversations with your significant other do not under any circumstances demo the Nord. Been there, done that and got burned.
As far as piano I’ll give it to Nord the guitars i’ll give that to Yamaha electric piano goes to Korg I haven’t tried to roll in yet but it sounds really nice
Jeffrey Reid I wish I had a third of your money to spend on music tech. I’m chugging away with a Juno DS 76 and a Casio PX-350 for Piano and drooling over a simple VR-730.
If Yamaha makes a montage 2 and add the cp 88 keybed to it ,and bring the ,back to sequencer they will be able to give roland a run for their money I guarantee that
Jeffrey Reid You know it’s updatable right? And second of all...guess what!?....you can change the action on the Montage by editing your velocity. You’re going to feel a light weight and weight on it. It’s going to say soft,hard,normal stuff like that in the menu to edit your action so go and check it out!
Not a very fair comparison. Lots of distortion. Too many different players, recording, songs, stere spectrums, and FX. I was surprised how "woody" the Nord sounded. Fantastic! I felt like I was inside the harp assembly. The Kronos and the Yammy have the same ring on C2, which personally I found annoying. I have owned both and know them well. IMO, the Nord sounds the most like a real piano,but the Fantom seems the most suited for study work.
Sold my Yamaha mortgage, bought Kronos, and few analogs. Much better, especially given what Behringer is releasing these days. Soon they will get the CS80 out according to the roomers.
The CS-80 is the one synth that will never have a satisfactory replacement. Behringer can tease on that one they want, but just like Deckards Dream, even when paired with a polyphonic aftertouch controller, will never have the creamy dynamics and magic quality of the CS-80. Just my opinion of course. Behringer’s doing a great job and I am curious of course to see if they pull it off. If they get that one right, nothing is sacred and there will be many who hope they stay away from violins. I have a couple CS-80s, and it was only after having gotten to play one that I realized what all the fuss was about. I had to have one and wound up with two so I will hopefully always have spare parts.
I don't understand why the nord grand instead of the nord stage 3 88 that would be the fair comparison. Do you know what you are doing? or is this nothing but advertising
🇨🇴 *_TODOS SON UNAS EXCELENTES MÁQUINAS, TIENEN UNOS PIANOS INCREÍBLES PERO NORD TIENE DESVENTAJA AL NO SER WORKSTATION NI ARRANGER NI SINTETIZADOR MIENTRAS QUE YAMAHA, KORG Y ROLAND SI Y SE PUEDE HACER PRODUCCIÓN MUSICAL DIRECTAMENTE CON ELLOS SIN NECESIDAD DE COMPUTADOR._* 🇺🇸 *_ ALL ARE EXCELLENT MACHINES, THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE PIANOS BUT NORD HAS A DISADVANTAGE BY NOT BEING A WORKSTATION OR ARRANGER OR SYNTHESIZER WHILE YAMAHA, KORG AND ROLAND YES AND YOU CAN DO COMPUTER MUSICAL PRODUCTION DIRECTLY WITH THE COMPUTER_*
Also, and again this is just me, but if you wanted piano sounds, the pianos on the FANTOM to me just sound, meh. Yamaha and KORG do it much better. Nord as well judging by this comparison.
This just proves that you can't go wrong with any of the selections.
Nord is a stage piano, not a workstation.
what is really nice about this nord grand is the flat top on which could be neat to place pint of beer )) ... wishing such degree of freedom for everyone, just flashed the idea to make ALL future synths upper control panel tipping on joints (not only touch screen) and have such neat beer table there too ))
yeah, but the Montage and Fantom are well suited for stage use.
You Sir...have common sense....NORD DONT MAKE A WORKSTATION...all these clowns on yt trying to do comaparisons with a dam nord against workstations...Next up..."New Nord vs John Deere Tractor "
And so what? This is a piano sound test. Very useful in fact.
Agreeeeeeee
All great... I ended up buying a Montage with no regrets...
It not having an onboard sequencer still is something I can not go over. My interest in workstations, as opposed to simple synths, is being able to let the creativity glow and compose on the spot, without having to be tethered to a computer.
Not a popular opinion, I know - but pianos are the least interesting thing a synth/workstation does. We're in 2019 - EVERY major brand does a wonderful signature piano. Yes, minor variances between the manufacturers, but really? A piano review?
cahenglish agree on this one absolutely
Pianos are still important. That's why Pianos are there in Synth Workstations!
When you wanna have a one.... Have a good one!
well i my case, the only thing i want for a synth/workstation is to have a super good piano sound.
@@rasxiel2493 Your call, of course, but you could save a ton of money by going with a good MIDI controller (I love my Studiologic SL88) and a piano like Pianoteq (a modeled piano that will blow you away!) by Modartt
@@cahenglish There are good piano sofware like ravenscroft 275, keyscape, Noire, Pianoteq, but every high end piano yamaha, roland, nord, korg, etc have their thing, and all sound different...
I listened carefully and IMO the Nord has the edge when it comes to piano, although between all them they’re so close that we’re splitting hairs. Choosing monitors or a PA system to play them through will also have a bearing on the tonal reproduction, so you’d have to ensure that they were each played through exactly the same system/set-up in order to achieve an accurate comparison verdict, even then it’d still be close.
I feel the Nord Stage is somehow closest to a real piano, I have been trying it in music shops and I really want one. The Roland has some "pad" feeling to the piano sound, Yahama is somehow thin sounding - lacking some character, and the Kronos piano sound "starts" funny, i.e. somehow not natural. ....difficult to explain.
I have the Roland X8 and I like playing it, but I like the key-action better on the Nord and feel Im one step closer to a real piano somehow with it. ...my 5 cents. ;-)
Omg 😲, Roland sounds amazing, they changed a lot from RD-2000 😍😍
Rolands new Fantom has the easiest UI, very simple and quick access, has great sounds, the montage has a more in depth ui and you will spend more time learning all the features, they both sound great. I dont own the Nord, and the korg kronos is a beast (I sold mine for the montage) but has many layers deep in the ui, I love many of the korg sounds but may not be suited for all users. Its all about preference.
Nord clavia,Korg kronos ,yamaha montage ,roland fantom
Speaking from my own experience.... (and you need headphones to realize the dynamics that so many sampled pianos lose.) the Nord blows them all out of the water. The tone, especially when sustaining, is just like a real piano. None of the other hardware synths have been able to match that. I can close my eyes and feel like I'm playing a real piano with the Nord. And I've owned Yamaha, Kurzweil and Roland. If you go to Nord's site and listen to the different piano samples, they are all like this. It's pretty amazing.
Daniel Eaton I genuinely don't know how people can't hear the difference. I've listened to countless demos, enough that compression or bad playing doesn't unfairly effect any one keyboard. To my ears, Nord is so far ahead of the competition that I have no choice in what to buy.
Similar to my experience - It took me less than a minute on the Nord in comparison to the Yamaha CP88 and Korg Grandstage and Kronos to realise that the piano sound is just so much more realistic. Particularly with the White Grand sound.
TheBjp0001 funny thing, I still remember to this day, I went into a guitar center for something else, and decided to play the Nord off the cuff. I already had a Motif ES and a Kurzweil module I’d been happy with, but was just curious to hear some sounds and they let me borrow headphones, and I started going through the pianos and was just blown away at the uprights with the resonance turned on... completely took me off guard... I pretty much started looking for a way to afford a Nord that day.
@@johnnulf624 Agreed. I feel the same.
I' don't and I can't own a Nord Grand, and neither have I played one. But as a Piano student in my childhood, (studied it for about 6 years), I cannot agree more with the points Daniel and the others shared here. I'll most probably buy a Roland FP 10 which sounds decent especially for the price; so the need to find a good and affordable keyboard made me here countless demos online. Once, I heard a small peace from Rachmaninoff played in a Nord Grand and I couldn't believe it. It's unimaginable how wonderfully it replicates an acoustic piano, at the point that someone with experience and good musical ear can actually confuse the two. It's incredible indeed!
Wish you all well!
I’d take the Roland or Korg for a live band setting, simply because the mids and highs are more pronounced. They’d easily cut through the mix and in the hands of a skilled player and sound engineer, do all of that without being overbearing. Nord and Yamaha take the cake for the most natural sounding. Nord has the edge on expressiveness, Yamaha has a beautiful warm sounding tone. However, these won’t stand out as much in a full
band setting. And I’m only talking about the piano patches alright? Cut me some slack.
But u gotta give Roland point for action…..I’ve tried it and dudeee it’s sick…!
I think it's true for most of the patches.
To be truly objective, one must hear the keyboards without knowing which one the sound came from. Other than doing that, we will always be subjectively bias to what we own or have own.
That's how people should vote
Best piano sound Korg Kronos.
I have the Fantom8, the Montage8, the Kronos2, the Nord stage 2ex88... All are precious!
Nice comparison. There's just too many inconsistent variables for me too pick a favorite right now.
At this level it becomes completely subjective. They all sound incredible, piano wise, they should for the money. But, IF your goal is strictly a piano nothing can beat a computer. And If you can hear an audible difference your not Human.. Now if each brand used the exact same source piano, that's where their respectable technology would be showcased.. That would be interesting.. They're all great.
Of course many of us wanna know, where is Kurzweil? - he is Ok, he is drinking beer and watching kids playing...
true story. Forte is laughing
Jumping Man Forte trash I’m sorry
So true ! Lol.
All of these keyboards sound great. I think the Korg Kronos sounds best. I have a Kronos and I LOVE it! I would give the Nord Grand second place, and the Roland Fantom 3rd place.They sound very similar, but the Nord just seemed a bit warmer and more natural to me. I didn’t care as much for the Montage. The piano was almost too bright, and not as warm as the others. I own a Yamaha MOXF, and while it had some great sounds, the pianos are not nearly as inspiring as the Kronos pianos.
Montage champion of the World🏆🏆🏆
The new Roland Fantom sounds fantastic!!
Roland and Korg are so Nice! Nord Grand is so Perfect!
I have one. I think so ☺️
One day when I'm rich, I want to make a museum of synthesizers and keyboards.
Ha,ha,ha. You are funny
Why not, everything is possible through faith in God and perseverance. I'm looking forward to visit one someday.
If people comment that this or that keyboard is great, they should also say why, because it looks like people just have different preferences or perceptions.
I have not sampled these keyboards much, but I have noticed that for some reason, many digital pianos sound like door bells to me, except for certain Yamaha digital piano settings; they have a piano sound where I can sense the hammer felt and wood. Maybe people like a loud, bell-like ring from their pianos, but personally I usually prefer the slightly softer sound. Or, maybe I only listened to the cheaper keyboards.
.. amongst other sounds ... nothing beats a Roland piano sound.
I had always favored Yamaha, but the top of the line, because the digital sampling is the best for acoustic pianos sounds.
Kronos has the worst UI and sequencer, but many good sound engines. Fantom has the best performance sequencer (Korg Gadget like). Montage seems to be pretty good allrounder. Nord is for stage and piano work, not a workstation.
I agree plus if you buy a Korg, you feel like you're in a desert wasteland, other than the user groups, Korg seems to be more about getting people to buy than support. With Yamaha and Nord, you get passion and support, Yamaha is everywhere, their head demo guy has even helped me once. Don't have the sound you want? Yamaha will find it for you. Roland is in the middle they'll fix issues but your better off with Roland Clan, who respond pretty fast to questions. Wish I could afford a Nord, but I'm sure they have something in place as people continue to buy them.
I think the Fantom's piano sound is much better than the RD-2000 or FA-08.
Roland assure that in RD2000 is based on V-PIANO, but in fact - sound is shit. In Fantom is better but also castrated. Here Nord Grand have best piano sound.
I regret buying a FA-08
@@FitiavanaFanantenana how so.. was thinking of getting one
Get one if you want.
My problem is that I have one Kurzweil PC3A8, Roland Fantom G8, Korg M3. I hoped There are new good sounds on the FA series.
That's not the case.
@@FitiavanaFanantenana what about this new fantom?
This comparison can't be taken into account in a professionnal level. For it to be accurate, it would have needed way more control over it's gears and parameters to determine any standart and
This is more of a compilation of many people playing synthes using their own unknown gears and (potentially)effects.
I really like all four of them. I would be in the mood to play one and then the other.
Roland Fantom for me is great and The best no.1
lol. the "new toy" factor kicking in
@@jumpingman8160 No, I can hear the Fantom sounds better. Its an open piano sound. Kronos is closed piano sound.
@@MarioBruneau montage sounds better
Yamaha montage 8 the best of them all.
Compared them all. Bought the Korg for a reason ;) as a performing keyboarder. But i admit the GUI and OS is not up to date. So, if you're not into yoga and just want a very versatile good piano, the Nord is the go-to keyboard. Great Kawai keybed (it's from the MP11), but i would prefer the Nord Stage 3 as a better comparison to the workstations. I love the sounds (have a Nord Electro just for access to the Nord Piano+Organ sounds - the other Nord samples are crappy as they lack velocity switching). Yamaha is nice and flashy (looks and sounds), but just not my type of instrument. For some reason i cannot explain, Yamaha never won my sympathies.
As for Roland - I never played the Fantom much, but the RD-2000 (and had another RD myself for over a decade).
My bottom line: Whatever you choose, just invest time to get to KNOW your instrument and program it yourself. And you will get the results you want. It's not just the keyboard, it's the keyboarder.
ME TOO MATTHIAS I LIKE THE KAWAI BUT THE KORG IS OK AND THE YAMAHA IS A BEAST INCLUDING THE ROLAND AS WELL AS THE NORD.
The nord grand is probably the most accurate then the roland and korg are tied second and the montage was last but as far as other sounds. the montage has a killer string sound. All of these boards are going to offer a variety of patch sounds that will blow the minds of the listener. In the end its about ease of use and comfort level for the player. each keyboard will have pros and cons. Price also can play a big factor. the kronos is a little cheaper price out of all of them because of the release date. but overall all. these boards can sound fantastic mixed in a song or in a live setting.
In this demo, they all sound great--and honestly, all of them are excellent instruments. But I basically own three of them (the Kronos2-88, a Montage8 and a Roland RD-2000) , so I can judge a little. I love both the Roland and the Montage, and it's a close call between them. The Roland has a slightly better action, but the sound is really equally good for both. The Kronos is slightly inferior to these two, both in sound and action. The Nord Grand is probably an excellent piano--maybe even the best of th bunch--but it lacks the other capabilites of the Montage or Kronos, so at $3,500, it's expensive for what it is.
If I had to buy just one, I'd probably get:
- The Montage for general versatility and sound
or, if I needed excellent sequencing and on-board workstation capabilities
- The Fantom
or, if I mostly just wanted a piano
- The Nord, or maybe a Roland RD-2000 for $1000 less.
Awesome fair & balanced comment.
Nice but, to do a better comparison we need the same player, same setting, same attack/song, same amp settings.
Roland has my heart but that Nord sound!!!😭😭😭👏🏽👏🏽
The Roland can sound better, via the v-piano editing (more warmer, resonance etc).
Petrus ramdayal but can it sound real? 😂 Cuz it ain't. Modeled well but modeled nonetheless
@@johnnulf624 the v-piano in the fantom and rd 2000 sounds like shit. The original v-piano €6.000,- and the v-piano grand €20.000,-. Sounds great, here in the studio's. Thanks you 👍
Giant and monsters machines!
Piano sound from yamaha THE BEST! Roland, Korg, Nord are very and very good and, if something is astonishingly for somebody. it's only admirably for anotherbody. Have your choice and have a FUN.
Nord Grand sounded best to me. Most impressive performance too, given that the guy was facing away from the piano. I think.
Fantom and is that the 76 key version with the light keys. They do make a 88key weighted.
All on them are master pieces end of discussion buy which ever u like u won’t regret even once ..!
Korg kronos 1100+ page perimeter guide kind of holds its own.
Nord samples are incredible, Yamaha and Korg are also doing great job but we should notice that Kronos is 2015, MONTAGE 2016 and Nord Grand as well as new Roland 2019...
I was testing the new Fantom 8 for a week, there is no other so intuitive workstation. It’s true, sounds like Roland but it’s only taste thing. And what for me really cool is, has wooden keyboard!!!
So go to a shop and try it before you “compare” those instruments, because this video has unfortunately nothing to do with it...
I have all of them except for the new Roland famtom 88 They all are beautiful and they own way I haven’t tried the Roland yet
Im trying to choose between the Roland Fantom 8 and new Yamaha Montage 88 in White i mainly play piano but also like Arpeggiators.
Then Dont buy a Workstation...you wont use 99% of it...waste of money
New fantom !!! BUT I BUY MONTAGE HAHA
Me too!
Between Nord and Kronos. Montage still sound like the motif and fantom, I'm guessing its strengths isn't in the piano patch. It sounds like Juno D piano. But Nord and Kronos, is crazy at the piano patch.
All I know is that I would not buy a fantom over a montage since both are at the same price point.
Interesting , i could not sell my Montage fast enough. Grew to hate it very quickly after the honeymoon wore off.
Well just like all honeymoons, the realization that marriage has happened means the real work comes in. Dedication, love and compromises. Don’t just dump it because it ain’t pretty first thing in the morning or gives you a hard time from time to time.
The Yamaha CP300 has always sounded the best to my ears, but the ones here are quite nice, especially the piano of the Nord. As for a workstation, I still enjoy my Oasis and even generations later it can hold its own against these four examples, in most areas.
I think the Nord Grand has the best piano, but that doesn’t mean the others sound bad, quite the contrary.
The Nord Grand though has a piano which appeals to me most, the recording of which sounds exactly right.
Hey: they are all monster machines....comparison is relative, since they all sound terrific: I don't have a dog in this fight, although I do own a Kronos, however, after going back and forth several times, the one that was most "PLEASING" ( very subjective word) to my ears, was the Montage.
In the beginning was that Shurato’s opening theme?
Definitely FANTOM, I just bought one very happy, download V2.1 you get 4 synthesizers build in
1. место Nord Grand
2. место Korg Kronos
3. место Roland Fantom
4. место Yamaha Montage
Don't forget Yamaha makes the real instruments. Real piano. Real drums. Bass. Real saxophones. Guitars. Motorcycle, Audio equipment. On and on
And they bought Bosendorfer, Cubase, and sampling. It took me years to go to Yamaha, sad I took that long.
#1 Roland Fantom. Korg's piano is a dead sound to my ears. Nord is NOT a workstation so out for me. Roland Fantom got the best interface and it is the easiest for live performance with sound changing dynamically. Also, did you see the hardware's back Interfaces of that Fantom? Best of them all and more versatile.
Yamaha has two technologys--AWM--and fm (dx7).Fm gives the famous electric pianos..Roland in my opinion (I dont know the instrument but thinking in what i hear roland fantom is an analog synth with may be a fantom g..and some more efects and arpegiators..I have two roland keyboards one is xp 80 the other is a fantom g....What can i say .I think roland is lost and dont know what to do.....i am really sorry but is what my hears can say...
The Roland guy likes the sight of his fingers flying almost as much as my boss likes the sound of his own voice.
Im still using my Roland A90 and JV2080 module, through a 400W yamaha powered mixer then a pair of JBL TR225 speakers, it still wipes the floor with all this new equipent. You must let the sound develop through the whole sound reproduction train. Medium weighted keys give you more feed back and control of after touch.
I liked that brightness of the Korg but that Nord sounded so Realistic on the piano sounds. I got a Roland Fantom G7 that i personally still love but damn, that Nord sounded so nice!
For me ROLAND and YAMAHA they look like brothers.....
fhedcuenco yh buh Yamaha 4 life
Just sample all your favorites and throw em on the Kronos Hard drive. Play em when you want. LOL Everybody always has to have "The New". These overall still can't touch Kronos. Sorry. Did you know yamaha patches can be played on a Kronos? Research it. Already got the Original Fantom X patches on Kronos. Sounds better than the damn Phantom did. :)
I agree, just load'em all on Kronos. Where did you find the Fantom patches?
@@cap706 I meticulously sampled mine about 7 years ago. 48GB. I mostly use it in Halion. I know theres a dry version for Kontakt about 16.7GB downloadable out there still if you search for it.
All the Eqs, Delay & Reverbs contributed to the Roland demo clouding our hearing..
Does anyone know the pianists in the video?
As far as I'm concerned, the ONLY fully fledged sequencer and therefore workstation here is the KORG Kronos. If you wanted an all-in-one keyboard that is. All the rest are performance keyboards/synthesizers (or stage piano's in the case of the Nord). Because wasn't the definition of Rich Formidoni on what a workstation actually is, great sounds, great effects and a sequencer when he revealed the KORG M3 back in the day?
roland fantom7 keyboard is crap! the rest is excellent......I choose the montage over the Moog sub37,the deep mind12, and the ob6, very glad I made the decision to sell off the ladder synths
Let’s face it. These are all amazing instruments. I own a Kronos myself. When I would buy a new one it would be the Roland Fantom.
Hi john, I am on the cusp of buying a new board and it is REALLY a tough decision. Back in the day you went to the music store and sat down with the instrument. Its tougher now. Please don;t laugh but the last board I bought (I am also a guitarist so money goes between instruments (12 guitars 2 boards, 2 drum kits, 1 Roland V-Drums, one Pearl acoustic) the last board I purchased was a Korg Trinity - I still LOVE that board!!! (also have my old old (old) faithful Yammy DX-7 FM synth - you just can't synth FM synth (Ha!) But its time to up my board game - is there a particular reason you would go with the Roland? Is it based on the sounds on the instrument, ease of navigation? feel? I am assuming they all have nicely weighted keys.... I am pretty deeply into orchestral productions now, (including tracking). so more interested in fidelity of the patches to specific instruments (pianos, strings, brass, double reed, woodwinds, percussion) (I am a one woman orchestra! LoL) and less the 'synthy" sounds..this really IS a tough decision! My instruments become very much "mine". If you can spare a minute, I would really appreciate your thoughts. And of course I would never part with the Trinity or the DX-7 - I just keep stacking boards and buying guitars LoL - - i am going to take a good close listen- look at the Fantom....THANK you for your time and your thoughts
Cynthia Klenk well for the Kronos is a amazing machine with absolute stunning sounds and possibilities. The downside is the interface. The text is tiny -and there is to much on the screen. The other side is that you can tweak and design any sound you want. The only reason for the Roland would be the interface. Sound wise you can’t go wrong with the Kronos. It was and still is a class on its own. BUT if you want stunning absolutely real orchestral sounds the kurzweil was for me the best out there but that micro size interface puts it down. It was unworkable. But orchestral wise it was absolutely for me the best. You have to consider what you want to do. Do you want to program? You can do that with the Fantom as with the Kronos. Do you want to program with a bit more ease of use I think the Roland would be a better choice now. Purely because of the interface. A really good feature with the Fantom is that there are no modes. So not a special program mode or multi sound mode. There is just one mode and you can do anything in that mode which make it a bit easier.
i really cannot tell a difference. they are all great sounding instruments.
Roland Fantom is the Winner... I have a Fantom 6 ;)
It’s frustrating that the recording interfaces and methods were not the same in this “comparison”
Kronos and Fantom wins!
Why was the Nord Grand person afraid of showing his/her face? Not a pleasant sight. Nothing beats the Nord Grand.
This is a horses for courses game. If you want a workstation the Roland and the Korg are just fantastic. If you want something that sounds and plays like a piano you will choose something very different. They are all great keys. If you want a piano first and foremost, want to hang onto your hard earned cash, and avoid difficult conversations with your significant other do not under any circumstances demo the Nord. Been there, done that and got burned.
As far as piano I’ll give it to Nord the guitars i’ll give that to Yamaha electric piano goes to Korg I haven’t tried to roll in yet but it sounds really nice
Jeffrey Reid I wish I had a third of your money to spend on music tech. I’m chugging away with a Juno DS 76 and a Casio PX-350 for Piano and drooling over a simple VR-730.
Yeah but you could play I’m just learning and I wish I had your skills lol
I think I'm going to buy all 4
If Yamaha makes a montage 2 and add the cp 88 keybed to it ,and bring the ,back to sequencer they will be able to give roland a run for their money I guarantee that
the sequencer is back on the montage firmware 3.0
Jeffrey Reid You know it’s updatable right? And second of all...guess what!?....you can change the action on the Montage by editing your velocity. You’re going to feel a light weight and weight on it. It’s going to say soft,hard,normal stuff like that in the menu to edit your action so go and check it out!
All keyboards got best sound, but Nord reality, but sinth more then piano.
Yamaha is nice the montage is great but they messed up when we took way the sequencer
Update your montage to get fantastic sequencer
Not a very fair comparison. Lots of distortion. Too many different players, recording, songs, stere spectrums, and FX. I was surprised how "woody" the Nord sounded. Fantastic! I felt like I was inside the harp assembly. The Kronos and the Yammy have the same ring on C2, which personally I found annoying. I have owned both and know them well. IMO, the Nord sounds the most like a real piano,but the Fantom seems the most suited for study work.
Nord, Roland, Kong, Yamaha
Yamaha, roland, korg, nord
Hard to hear the samples when all people do is play fast. I like the Kronos maybe the best simply because the dudes didn't need to just shred
Nord Grand is in a class by itself.
Sold my Yamaha mortgage, bought Kronos, and few analogs. Much better, especially given what Behringer is releasing these days. Soon they will get the CS80 out according to the roomers.
The CS-80 is the one synth that will never have a satisfactory replacement. Behringer can tease on that one they want, but just like Deckards Dream, even when paired with a polyphonic aftertouch controller, will never have the creamy dynamics and magic quality of the CS-80. Just my opinion of course. Behringer’s doing a great job and I am curious of course to see if they pull it off. If they get that one right, nothing is sacred and there will be many who hope they stay away from violins.
I have a couple CS-80s, and it was only after having gotten to play one that I realized what all the fuss was about. I had to have one and wound up with two so I will hopefully always have spare parts.
Korg 1
Nord 2
Roland 3
Yamaha 4
It was hard to diagnose and finally I decided to estimated these giants order......
Однозначно ROLAND!!)
Very very very very realistic Nord Stage... but i’am sorry is not a workstation is a stage piano
montage! The best
DOES PHANTOM 8 WORK WITH ABLETON?
Yes
jordan rudess is the lord !
Nord piano Sound is like having a gibson guitar 1950 in perfect condición...
1- Nord Grand
2- Korg Kronos
3- Yamaha Montage
4- Roland Fantom
Pianos Acústicos
That Nord!! 😍😍😍
All of these keyboads are great, it depends on how you play and use it.
I don't understand why the nord grand instead of the nord stage 3 88 that would be the fair comparison. Do you know what you are doing? or is this nothing but advertising
🇨🇴 *_TODOS SON UNAS EXCELENTES MÁQUINAS, TIENEN UNOS PIANOS INCREÍBLES PERO NORD TIENE DESVENTAJA AL NO SER WORKSTATION NI ARRANGER NI SINTETIZADOR MIENTRAS QUE YAMAHA, KORG Y ROLAND SI Y SE PUEDE HACER PRODUCCIÓN MUSICAL DIRECTAMENTE CON ELLOS SIN NECESIDAD DE COMPUTADOR._* 🇺🇸 *_ ALL ARE EXCELLENT MACHINES, THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE PIANOS BUT NORD HAS A DISADVANTAGE BY NOT BEING A WORKSTATION OR ARRANGER OR SYNTHESIZER WHILE YAMAHA, KORG AND ROLAND YES AND YOU CAN DO COMPUTER MUSICAL PRODUCTION DIRECTLY WITH THE COMPUTER_*
Also, and again this is just me, but if you wanted piano sounds, the pianos on the FANTOM to me just sound, meh. Yamaha and KORG do it much better. Nord as well judging by this comparison.
Montage and Nord, if we are going to talk about pianos.
Nord e roland wins!!!
Здорово!!!🙃🙃🙃
I want all of them but I only have money and room for one
roland❤👌🏼👌🏿
1st... Nord Grand