Making tracery using the turning lathe! guilloché
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Today I'll show you the process of making wavy tracery, which is called 'guilloché'. I'll use a turning lathe for it. It's commonly used for a clock-faces, but we're gonna make a box for an engagement ring with this tracery on a lid.
Enjoy!
#lathe#guilloché - Наука та технологія
I'm going to make that for my wife. I bet she'll be thrilled to find an M2.5 thread cutter inside the jewelry box!
she'll... die?
I'll get my coat :)
Hahaha nice!
Don't screw this up, mate
she better be.
I'm just a machine operator and I love watching the machine make cuts and watching this guy amazes me
What kinda machine?
Quick tip for improving your work:
If you use a lathe tool with a lager nose radius, you will get way nicer finishes without sanding.
Your very pointy HSS turning tool needs very slow feedrates to reach a low surface roughness.
If you have a grinder, just grind the point to a nice large radius, maybe 1,5mm or even more, this will dramaticly improve your surface finishes on facing and turning operations.
Hone your tool to a very sharp edge afterwards, this gives almost mirror like finishes without the need for sanding.
Wow! Thank You!
It' the second time in a few days, I eard someone telling that sanding is « breaking » the surface of a piece of wood.
When I work a piece of wood, I personnaly as often it's possible, I use a scraper ( in french : racloir, I'm not sure of the translation.)
It's a fact that the pores of the wood are shutted, the fibres are smoothed.
Sometime, to be honnest , and to be fast, I use sanding method myself.
That said, the box is a very beautiful thing, made with passionh, for an other kind of passion between two personns.
I suspect your other half will really appreciate that M2.5 die you're lovingly created a box for! Do they have a matching tap??
You bet! He will show us next week, how he made the box for the tap. :-D
I was going to ask the same thing! I'd be delighted to receive that in a fancy box!
@nutwiss .... I see what you did there.
And here I was excited for a new series where he makes custom holders from 2.5 to 30 mm dies. (Called "The Prettiest Shop In Town")
That M 2.5 die must be 24 Carat gold to deserve such a box.
That little press may have been used for stamping shapes out of a metal sheet? Thats probably what the chute underneath is for. Let the cut part fall through and then you could just slide more of the metal sheet into position for another cut
It's crazy that clickspring just uploaded a vid of him using a rose machine to build a silver tracery necklace for his wife, i was thinking, "man I'd love to see more vids like that...."
Nice effect. Can I ask a possibly dumb question....Why not just make a tool that does 5 lines at a time and save yourself a ton of passes and adjustments?
I think that would put too much pressure on the cutter and either prevent it from cutting due to high resistance or break the tips off.
Joe, your suggestion could work for this case, but not the general case. Many patterns involve non-parallel lines, and the general approach requires many passes. The typical tooling for guilloche or ornamental turning is designed for the general case. The process was invented in the 1800s when labor was cheap and machines were expensive.
You also run into the issue that you need multiple spacings of lines for different patterns
It's also a LOT more difficult to make a tool with five separate cutting surfaces that are evenly spaces, of equal width and equal height.
This is a way more valid question than anybody is answering. Everyone is imagining a lathe tool and are overwhelmed by the idea of grinding it just so. The obvious fix would be a radial cutter. You remember those old fashioned taps that had individual teeth? Long before spiral taps, they were super easy to sharpen because the teeth were not in a line like a comb. I imagine a similar geometry cutter simply rotating at a slower speed would both speed up the operation while still allowing patterns that require skips. It's not even very complicated math to figure out the geometry required for such a cutter.
this is a watch press for removing crystal faces from bezels. sometimes watch backs use the same press with a different tool end.
Sweet! Looks like someone is going to propose to a M2.5 bolt! 😂😂
Very enjoyable watch thank you. I hadn't read the text before watching and wondered what was so special about that 2.5mm die. :)
Fantastic! Sharp mind and sharp tools fueled by a good imagination!
Приятно смотреть и видеть как человек совершенствуется в своём деле, смотрю контент с самого начала!!!
@Петр Фадеев херней страдает, а такие же как он страдающие херней- наблюдают)
The little press could be a Buttonpress for fabric covered Buttons used in upholstery, we have a similar old one with interchabgeable anvils and Inserts for differnt Buttons and eyelets. Rarely used these days.
My thoughts exactly. I made many buttons in my dad's workshop when I was a kid on a machine that looks exactly like this one.
With your awesome skills with the lathe, and other tools, I'm sure you could make your own coins.( or similar) And I like the music, as it is relaxing, as I am watching you create another masterpiece.
Need to make one of these for a 10mm socket as well.
Your channel is a gem, so glad youtube recommended it
This is a video without a voice, but there are subtitles. Enjoy watching!
I really enjoy reading your subtitles for the project on videos that have them. Having the notification in the video itself when there are subtitles is very useful as it reminds me to turn them on. I usually only look at the comments after I'm done with a video.
Great video and a cool technique!
You don't need voice subs or music
I think I enjoy the episodes without the voice more, it's very relaxing to watch!
I did not realize there were subtitles so I just enjoyed the music. Thank you for sharing.
This makes me happy... In so many ways!
Lovely turning of wood and metal machining. Very cool project!
I'm not an expert, but that press may be for setting watch crystals and it may just be missing the "anvil" at the base where you'd put the bezel around to lift it up around the crystal.
Gorgeous work!
My first thought aswell.
I like the spring on the cross slide to keep out the backlash. Never seen that before on a lathe. Is that something you added yourself?
Думал делает матрицу для чеканки монет, в итоге получился футляр для китайской плашки?
Я думаю для кольца, плашка для примера.
A TRUE MASTER CRAFTSMAN. LOTS OF RESPECT TO YOU.
W&M Levsha
Great job, love the different wood.
Hello,
as usual you make small jewels, even if they are boxes for real jewels. the application you built to work the face of the brass rod is very interesting.
I think the gray machine you found is a punch to punch thin metal plates, or insert metal studs in leather or fabric, I think I saw one in a haberdashery shop but maybe it was even bigger; or a watchmaker's glass remover, it would explain the slide below, done with great care to prevent the detached piece from being damaged and returning comfortably in the hands of those who operate the machine.
Given the excursion of the punch with so little stroke of the lever I would say that it is not made for jobs that require a lot of pressure, so both uses are possible.
The very cool old tool looks like a miniature Fly Press.
Possibly used with swappable dies to punch holes/shapes from sheet metal
Very satisfying to watch. The intricacies of the special lathing proces... hmmm... nice. It's somehow like My mechanics and yet different. Thanks for the cool job. Would be nice though if you could make a visual representation of the process behind the tracing, for instance the making of the templates. But hey, maybe another time? Who knows.
wonderfull, now i just have to make one myself
Absolutely stunning!👏👏👏👍👍👍
Replicating rose engine and line engine work with a modern lathe is an interesting concept. I'll have to remember when I start my shop.
Love the cut off jig for the bandsaw
Legend has it that somewhere out in this great big world there is one very jealous wedding ring.
Tihis video is pure machinery ASMR
I'm so glad that you _decided_ again to _combine_ some things with others, if you know what I mean ;)
Interesting very decorative.
wow cool！I think those patterns are usually done on highly advanced diamond turning machine，with advanced Fast Tool Servo mechanism
That device, is a small press, the slot in the bottom allows either waste material, or the product (depending on the way you punch) to leave the press.. I like it.. i wish i had something like that..
Also, Great job on the Guilloché pattern.. next step, include a steppermotor on the Vertical slide.. to be able to make wavy patterns in all directions..
that little press is just a giant hole punch but for metal
however you are missing the punch dies
as always clean and accurate
Looks like a small arbor press for bearing installation and such. Maybe a specialty tool for mass assembly.
I love precision tools, the more precise the better,, i suppose that's why i enjoy reloading my own ammunition, it's a great hobby that i can make something useful, and when i shoot the ammo that i loaded with my own hands gives me a feeling of satisfaction that i did it myself....
Beautiful work
Beautiful work, thanks for sharing it with us. Ps, hope she says yes mate 😎👍
Very nice .
I admire your skills👏🏾
Wonderful job! Thanks!
I believe that is an old watch press for pressing the backs onto a watch after it has been repaired. I remember one of them from when I was a kid. isnt there any manufacturers mark on it?
or pushing the glass into the watch casing.
Beautiful. Inspirational even
Love the bandsaw vice
that is beautiful.
WOW Sr. I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME BUT I HAVEN'T THAT KIND OF PERSON IN A LONG TIME WHEN I WORKED AT BAXTER LAB IN MT.HOME ARKANSAS AND THE TECHNICIAN THAT I WAS WATCHING WAS A FRIEND OF MINE THE LAB HAD JUST PERCHEST A BRAND-NEW CNC AND HE DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS WITH IT JUST LIKE YOU JUST DID AND MY DAD WAS A MACHINIST AT ITHACA CHAIN AND ITHACA GUN UP IN NEW YORK A LONG TIME AGO AND SEEN HIM MAKE SOME AMAZING THINGS EVEN WITH OUT A LATHE I LEARNED A LOT OFF THE BOTH OF THEM I'M SORRY I'M BABBLING AND YOU PROBLY DON'T WANT TO HEAR MY LIFE STORY I JUST GOT SO RAPED UP WATCHING YOU DO FANTASTIC WORK ON A LATHE I LOST ALL CONCENTRATIONS AND THOUGHT EXCEPT FOR WHAT YOU WAS DOING MY EYES AND BRAIN WAS FOCUSED ON NOTHING BUT WHAT YOU WAS DOING JUST KEEP UP THE MAGNIFICENT METAL WORK IF I MAY I'LL CALL YOU MY FRIEND FOR NOW SENSE I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME OK WELL TAKE CARE AND STAY SAFE GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND PEACE BE WITH YOU ALL AND I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE AN AWESOME DAY AND WEEKEND AND KEEP THE METAL SHAVINGS FLYING SEE YOU ON THE NEXT VIDEO SO LONG FOR NOW MY FRIEND
Great ad for Taig!
Ok. That's dedication (:
Love it.
Also... Congratulations?
I’d like to see what moves the cutter into/out of the work.
A stepper motor controlled by arduino. Have you seen his video of his rice engraving machine? He engraved a thumbs up on a kernel of rice.
I can't believe you gouged out and wrecked those jaws to make a clamp for that piece of wood
the instrument they found kinda looks like one of those stamps for making pin buttons
i thing you have made a realy nice watch dial mate
Beautiful facing. I was sad to see that it's computer controlled. I'd love to learn that by hand.
What do you call this pattern?
Amazing work sir. Can you tell me how you made the tool move in a zig zag pattern ?
Is that being driven by stepper motors? Really cool.
And that tool looks like a jewelers arbor...
ex: pressing watch parts together
That would not explain the eject opening on the bottom. I think this is a punch press, or how is it called...
@@janosnagyj.9540 Possibly, but a try punch would possibly need more pressure than a user would be able to assert with a screw lever. I suppose we just won't know fore sure.
Im amazed with your craftsmanship hat off mate van you yell more about you lathe for your mate it ? Or bought it
Wow!
C'est très joli bravo
Awesome 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing. When are you going to do another rice kernel engraving?
Шикарная шкатулочка
That looks exactly like some ebony I got from the Philippines. I've never known what species it is.
AutoLike, nice... very nice.. 👍🏻
How long does it take to do all the etching?
Also just a suggestion, have you tried rotating the circle 90 degrees for each row so the etches go across and up n down, I think it will look alot like the chequer plate style metal sheet floor you see in workshops
I was expecting that, was quite surprised when it didn't happen. It would give a woven effect and catch the light more.
The tool you don't know what it is for, is it possible it was used for watch making? Like mounting and removing the glass? I've recently seen a video in the Cà Lem channel and he created a watch and mounted the glass with some sort of special manual press
hi, your words confirm my memories: "centuries" ago I saw one, but I did not remember if in a haberdashery (for various studs on leather and fabrics, even if it seemed more rough and bigger) or in a watchmaker's shop. . which closed in '75 !!!
amzing..👍👍✌✌😎😎
That's like making a 500$ box for a 5$ thread cutter.
Nice how do u know what’s in each box now with out taking off each individual lid
👍😊 Nice
Nice
Great music, who is it? My first view of one of your videos, so, does the m2.5 die have a significance? Regardless, cool video, subbed.
The guilloché and wood grain are misaligned 7:34
I want to die.
Nice video and work!
I was half expecting to hear Lou Rawls break out with vocals [;^)
Imagine if the piece was turning at a super slow rate...
Press tool looks like a watch press- used to press out the crystal
very interesting, but doesn't provide info how you could make this effect consistently without cnc
Прекрасная работа, только есть впечатление незаконченности, может не хватает тонкого кольца из жёлтого металла в месте стыковки крышки и основы, хотя, может я придираюсь…
А ви зайдіть на сторінку автора .Тут лиш вирізки з його відео.
You can apply wax/polish to the wood while it’s still on the lathe.
Hmmm. A Ring box for a thread die. Not sure about that.
Looks pretty though
Sir, did you just turned your Chuck to recieve a part, but you did not Brother to center your cutting tool?
Congratulations
dumb question, what is that attachment to your cross slide, that moves the cutting tool up?
A lot of work and cost for a jewelry box that holds one ring. Still neat to watch lathe skills on a micro scale.
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Alright.. I'm tripping out!
Either you've uploaded this in the past, OR I've gained some sort of psychic ability..
been binge watching your videos, could what equipment do you have? i.e the lathes/millers etc
You're not using an actual rose guilloche lathe. I can see that you added a stepper motor to the cross slide, but what controls the oscillation? Is there simply a camshaft sort of mechanism? Could we get a closer look at your setup in a future video?
check the video carefully at 02:06: there are two steppers: one that moves the tool parallel to the surface and the other that moves the carriage back and forth by touching the tool only in the desired points.
The second stepper is almost underneath to the first and has a piece of white electrical tape attached to his black body
What type of cross slide it is?
Does it need external power transmission or can it be operated from lathe gearbox?
I was a little surprised that it was just for that die. I probably would have kept it as a little keepsake holder. Beautiful looking though
Tim, that was my first thought as as well until I saw the description. It's for an engagement ring.
@@bcidernable doh... Yeah I was totally thinking man that's a lot of work.
bravo
What do I need to look for when I want a small lathe like that?
You must make that die very happy. Congrats, you two!
May i know what machine do you use? Brand? Where can i get that?
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How tf does this chis channel have so many subscribers!!!?