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yeah, as if bloomberg needed to do that, youtube is a shame, but multimillion news network trying to take cents from the plebians is really the icing on the cake.
so let me get this straight: 1) Market makers create a highly manipulative market where they set all the rules 2) Someone shows up playing by their rules and beats them 3) He goes to jail for doing something most trader firms do everyday before lunch 4) Makes sense
so let me get this straight: 1) this guy is a scapegoat 2) bunch of algos have gone rogue 3) look up for Jérôme Kerviel at Société Générale Always same story in this industry
A big firm would just get fined a portion of what they made, no one would be held in jail during the multi-year trial and it would have just been like the cost of doing business. Recently we've seen instances where the regulating body asks the offending corporation how much they would like to pay to settle it.
He has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
I’m sure he had some leftover money kept somewhere but it probably wasn’t millions and millions of dollars. But I’m willing to bet he’s made millions back trading at this point.
This guy just copy what they literally do.. Those million, he knew not worth spending. But just experience the game his self. Now he believes, market is easily manipulated. Hahaha 70 million profit, not getting the lambo, diamonds , gucci rollex stuff.. To me this guy is on other level of purpose...
yes. And it is a crime to use the tools of the people of the inner circle, if you are not in the inner circle. They hate to be played in the games they've designed.
Too many inconsistencies in the story. He didn’t go down because of what he was accused of, he went down because of how much of a threat to the HFs he was.
The fact that the crash was blamed on one guy trading out of his parents house when hedge funds and HFT manipulate the market with $ billions daily, is an absolute joke.
@@treyheaney9483 no matter what, the video is wrong, they're just milking the book, do you think if everyone blame him for the dip, you would atleast see news of him on the video, but they didn't even show any news video that talk about him. I bet this guy just made him up
Moral of the story, if you are rich and manipulate lower class traders, you are a successful institutional investor. If you manipulate rich institutional investors in their own game you are a felony criminal facing 300+ years in jail.
@@Mottbox See people like you are not seeing the bigger picture. He never spent the money. Bank's are doing similar things dear. Most Bank's don't have the money to run their orders. It's all in Cash flow system. Bank's are in massive amounts of debt. He was showing the system that their perfect unbrokeable system is Venerable and feeble at best.
@@saranichols9201 no idea what you’re talking about with over indebted banks. Or orders not being followed up with. Banks do not manipulate any market by making fake orders. That would violate the interest of the shareholders and the board in general
@@Mottbox HFT algos spoof all of the time, check out the research on Nanex. They just don't like outsiders doing it. It dropped so hard because it screwed up all of the algos that are allowed to run (and front-run) normally.
@@Mottbox A first year Computer Science student could write that algo? I hope you're joking. The algo's that are out there now are just skimming profits. That's their only purpose. Why is that legal? They should do away with all of this type of trading or let the guy with the best algo win.
I’ve tried so many different strategies and tools, but honestly, this is the only thing that’s really made a difference for me. It’s like everything finally clicked, and trading hasn’t felt like a struggle ever since.
This guy didn’t care about the money at the end of the day he kept living the same style with or without money because he was happy. This man reached a level of genius that most people dream of.
Ironically, someone who doesn’t care about money but just enjoys the “game” probably has a way better psychology for trading. They’ll make winning decisions without emotions getting in the way.
Exactly, this is what had happened, the same thing, there have been sich flash crash before, and there were billions of a dollar that made that happen, few million can't make the market lost trillion dollars, there are buyers. More on this: He has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
I'm very annoyed that this was just swept under the rug during the video. How can you lose that much money by giving it to a "banker"? Who did he give that money too and what happened to it? This is what should be considered as fraud.
This is why they have extremely strict and convoluted rules. Only the approved manipulators are allowed to understand the rules properly (and if they don't, they get a warning). If an unapproved manipulator doesn't know about some obscure rule, off to jail with him!
To be fair if he was just buying and selling at a high frequency there wouldn't have been a problem. What they did have a problem with was the fact that he kept cancelling orders to drive the price in the desired direction, therefore market manipulation. I don't know if industrial trading algos cancel orders to manipulate prices though
@@curiously-cinnamon order books get filled with fluff orders all the time. it just depends on how a judge/prosecutor/investigator etc interprets it if its legal or not. they essentially punished this guy for taking advantage of human psychology, which is all most daytrading is, anyways.
@@curiously-cinnamon If you know anything about trading at all you'd know that cancelling orders cannot drive prices, also HFTs cancel orders all the time.
@@innosam123 true. But it doesn’t mean that much for him. It’s like playing video game for him, just trying accumulating points . Sometimes I feel the same way....
At the end of the day he didn't even want or care about the money. He saw a system he could exploit, a video game he could play and win at, and he won.
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Exactly, my thought during the video. The banks and financial firms have been stealing from us for decades, it's time they got a taste of their own medicine.
@@aaammm1888 it's all about perceptions. If you expect people to die and they do it's normal. When they die unexpectedly everyone losses their minds. Example if I call ahead of time and say we're dropping bombs on Iran. Its normal. If one explodes in downtown Chicago everyone goes crazy over an act of terrorism. What this guy did was unexpected. The market panicked and lives we're ruined. Not really his fault. But still a case of fiscal terrorism.
There is the difference that Goldman actually executes a lot of there trades. The problem here was that the vast majority of his trades were never finished. Goldman by the sense of it scale does a much smaller % of unfinished trades. They also have to explain any weird behavior so they don't engage much in it.
It’s the Politicians greed that is the problem, most of this mkt is akin to a casino. The gov could tax trades, orders or orders not filled. Anyone really think that the hft (s) dint get in front and skim a penny off your biweekly 401(k) purchase?
@@Dawson-q1c he's doing the exact same thing the other big firms are doing. He just did it better than them. And now they're crying like babies because he's taking advantage of firms who take advantage of the daily people
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100% agree. 50mil isn't even enough to move one of my oil equities. He just did what everyone else was doing, but he's brown and not connected, so he's not allowed.
honestly if the system was made this way he didn't steal. They shouldn't let people place tons of orders and canceling them to excite the computers. Otherwise we need to go back to the past without those automatic computer kinda stealing from everyone their cut everytime we buy or sell .
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@@orchlongala8064 he reported the inefficiency to the financial authority before being arrested. He helped the market fix a loophole. So not a genius maybe but a fucking saviour. You are more criminal for trolling, believing in news crap and sharing this ignorance.
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hm no?! those things are not related at all!!!!!!!!!!! GME was short sold for over 140%, meaning that if you'd buy all the available stocks that were at like 3 dollar, you knew that the hedge fund who basically borrowed more stocks than were available would have to buy something that would have become infinitely rare... if you know basic economics, you know the price of something that is infinitely rare, is infinitely high, but since they borrowed it, they'd have to pay up anyway. so these two things are not close to the same. the algorithms this guy was running is not close to the same concept. the hedge fund short selling GME just didn't do proper market research, because GME had a new positive looking team and strategy to continue online already back in the summer, whilst they, the fund, also bet way too risky, one that if/when lost, could basically break the market.
@@pyruvicac.id_ are the hedge funds using Navs tactic to drive down the price to scare ppl into selling their GME bags? Did Nav create short ladder attack?
Banks sold crappy MBS to their own clients and then shorted it in 2008 without any penalties but this dude made some money of some trades and got arrested.... wow
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Fortunately for him, he got off easy. He was given home confinement for one year... Most of which was during this lockdown 😂 I just hope he wasn't permabanned from trading and he gets back to making money.
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This guy is a hero, he should be remembered as one of the first humans to successfully rebel against the pervasive and destructive nature of uncontrolled artificial intelligence.
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But Nav didn't really manipulate the markets... he manipulated the HFT bots who in turn manipulated the market. In my opinion, if you're analyzing the orders being submitted, trying to connect that to a stock movement, and you get it wrong, that's on you for having a bad system.
@@eliasm2594 Again, Nav did not execute any trades that changed the market value of anything. He only submitted orders, HFT bots were the ones who saw the orders and changed the pricing of the market with no valid reasoning.
I think he has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
So you're telling me, a genius who outsmarted the entire stock market, did not know how to save his money and lost it all. Just seems way too unlikely.
@@badmonkey91 He has aspergers which is why he was vulnerable to being conned. It is probably why he was great at trading as well. Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's, is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.
@@montasnorgaisse4345 Yeah, I'm highly aware of how aspergers affects people. I used to manage an technology department and I had several subordinates that had autism and aspergers. In fact, the majority of folks in that field have a spectrum disorder. I didn't make my original statement randomly. I knew a few "super genius" type guys with spectrum disorder. Extremely talented programmers. And they talked about schemes like this constantly. The first place these guy's minds goto is "Yeah, but how do we get away with it though?". I promise you he thought about it way before he started. Probably while he still worked at the firm. Just because people on the spectrum have challenges, it doesn't make them idiots. They think about things on a much higher level than the average Joe does, because they can obsess about it. If he didn't have a plan, I know - almost for certain because of my experience with these guys - that he would not have started. His cash is probably sitting safely somewhere, waiting for the statute of limitations to run out.
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So are we just supposed to ignore the institutional traders who literally do this everyday......and because they lost one day they decide to prosecute? the fuck?
Yes and no. Yes because he obviously did have some orders hit, but overall the issue is with the spoofing - which is not providing liquidity because you don't intend to be filled. It's illegal and rightfully so, drives me insane as a trader. I still see it happening every day in the S&P500 futures though, just not on this scale.
@@MasterWestt Maybe I'm too cynical but I don't think the same trades from a big institutional firm would have received jail time b/c "liquidity to the market" :-D
@@extropiantranshuman the comment implied that if he was WORKING on Wall Street, he would not have been punished. But if you would have watched the video, he was actually trading from his parents house, in England.(Wall street is in New York, not England. This might seem like an obvious point, but you are having great difficulty understanding it. Also the NYSE isn’t the only stock exchange in the world, shocker I know!
@@goldfingershat he's working there - with the stock market. That's not true - if he was working in a firm that dictates these laws - he would not be impacted as much - but there's no guarantee. If you read it enough, you'd see that. Which stock exchange did you think he was on to trigger a US investigation? A UK exchange, not a new york one? Last time I checked - the UK is not in the US. I'm sorry this is difficult for you, I know.
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The Robinhood thing puts all these historic events in a whole new light. WTF, why did this kid go to jail, it sounds like there was probably hundreds of programs/algorithms that contributed equally or even more??
I think he has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nick Leeson - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
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this last couple months. it's been tweets, and then bs about a stimulus, and this last weekend, thanksgiving week. I watched as 100k+ (aapl)call options went worthless as the hedges kept the price under 117. it's all rigged, all you have to do it see where and know how to take advantage of it.
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Maybe he struck a deal, by negotiation and threat to counter the charges pressed with others. He might have signed a disclaimer promising to never teach his systems to the masses
@BobbyG What socially? He did it all from his bedroom. You really believe he didn't transfer money via proxy fake investment funds to somewhere else? Or he got into crypto and has a huge wallet of crypto currency. I don't buy it. Aspergers doesn't make you dumb. Even if some fund he was in conned him, there is no way he didn't diversify. Also, he made millions, really think he couldn't make millions again? Specially during the Corona Crash, while he was in house arrest! The guy is a genius, these people don't give him enough credit because Wallstreet is filled with Extroverts that can't understand the autismo power guys like Nav have.
@@pmp1337 Well said. He's smart enough to know his money isn't safe in traditional ways. Look at civil forfeiture in US as an example. Police have legally robbed US residents of millions, maybe even billions. Even the rich hide their money (Panama Papers). Rich or poor, government will take every opportunity to separate you from your assets.
Well when you give your money to "Return Investors" it's almost equivalent to gambling. For example, If you make a $10,000 bet than England will win a match, you can't go and demand a refund when they lose. It's the same here. You can't prosecute someone for legally spending money you gave them willingly.
@@shah.n2099 All his trades were publicly visible and traceable, that's the problem. I'm sure he found a way to stash a small amount but it's hard making it unnoticeable.
casinos also ban successful gamblers when they beat the odd by maths and statistics. but if you beat the system in general, the system will come back and bring you down.
This is exactly what most of the city firms, hedge funds are doing. Placing massive orders, then cancelling at once vise versa. This guy Navinder was made a scape goat. The house does not like to loose.... blah blah blah...
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It’s funny how it goes with stocks only “smart institutions are allowed and expected to make a lot of money when a guy outsmarts them they say it’s illegal what a legend honestly.
I mean anyone who enters the stock market manipulates teh market - because it's composed of everyone there. So should everyone who's ever been in the stock market go to jail?
@Wayne Halliday If his sentence is only one year house arrest chances are any restrictions would be lifted after that time. Dude sees the future, so why not?
@@joshboy88420 dude doesn't see the future, that was the whole point of this vid and the case against him. He was successful without high frequency manipulation, so as long as hes not completely banned from trading, he'll do ok.
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I have no idea on what he did wrong. He made a bet and won. While others lost. Just because it wasn't done by big company backed by government but some ordinary guy it's wrong? What exactly he did illegal? This clownish crime charge
@@gabbar51ngh They say it was spoofing. It's a form of market manipulation. It's about placing orders to buy or sell stocks (but not executing those orders). This creates the impression of high demand for the asset. Other traders place their orders based on that impression. The spoofer cancels the trade, takes a profit and the other traders lose their shirts.
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That part of the story doesn't make much sense for multiple reasons. I think the government or the investment bank confiscated it and split the profit amongst themselves. They need us to believe he was swindled out his money.
Well when you give your money to "Return Investors" it's almost equivalent to gambling. For example, If you make a $10,000 bet than England will win a match, you can't go and demand a refund when they lose. It's the same here. You can't prosecute someone for legally spending money you gave them willingly.
@@johnnypilko845 I’m not sure whether I believe he did, it’s definitely a possibility though. You’d be surprised how many people pay others to invest money for them. Either way, whether he did it or not is irrelevant, the point is that you can’t complain when you give someone else money and they spend it ‘incorrectly’. It’s perfectly legal, and all these people demanding that the investors get jail time clearly don’t understand investing and/or the law.
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yeah, as if bloomberg needed to do that, youtube is a shame, but multimillion news network trying to take cents from the plebians is really the icing on the cake.
At least this is a little more transparent that what they usually do.
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Let all give Nav a round of applause. The MAN IS A LEGEND
Yep taking notes
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Nav is doing great, He moved to Canada and started a rap career... Never mind wrong Nav 😔
He sees through the illusion
Proper madlad
so let me get this straight:
1) Market makers create a highly manipulative market where they set all the rules
2) Someone shows up playing by their rules and beats them
3) He goes to jail for doing something most trader firms do everyday before lunch
4) Makes sense
so let me get this straight:
1) this guy is a scapegoat
2) bunch of algos have gone rogue
3) look up for Jérôme Kerviel at Société Générale
Always same story in this industry
this is all a lie. Typical bloomberg
He didn't even get to record his football match😤
people who think its real are dumb..
A big firm would just get fined a portion of what they made, no one would be held in jail during the multi-year trial and it would have just been like the cost of doing business.
Recently we've seen instances where the regulating body asks the offending corporation how much they would like to pay to settle it.
"Manipulated the market"
He's simply a player in a game you made.
Happening with game spot now lol
EXacly what i was thinking just before i scrolled down to the comment section
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it"
Not really. He was placing enormous amount of orders that he had no intention of executing
He has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
If you’re out there somewhere Nav, you’re an absolute superstar and I really hope you did manage to keep some of the money somewhere.
I’m sure he had some leftover money kept somewhere but it probably wasn’t millions and millions of dollars. But I’m willing to bet he’s made millions back trading at this point.
@@xtdworkshop3424 When you know how to trade and trade well, you'll never be broke again.
@@sloht4061 yes
he doesn't need that money but he can get it all back again.
How about be an actual Robin Hood?
Guy beats banks at their own game...
... must be illegal
House always win
Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, this man is a hero.
This guy just copy what they literally do.. Those million, he knew not worth spending. But just experience the game his self.
Now he believes, market is easily manipulated. Hahaha
70 million profit, not getting the lambo, diamonds , gucci rollex stuff.. To me this guy is on other level of purpose...
@@fauzifikri7805 i second this.
Don't worry they only let him off because he lost all his money and they had nothing to take as a penalty.
Meanwhile not a single person was arrested during 2008 housing bubble
Wall street crashed the world economy for a decade no consequence this guy crashed the market for what? an hour? gets prison. fucking pathetic
Actually i believe one banker was arrested. Just one. Kareem Serageldin.
@@InvagPrune Bro didn't even do anything major
Actually 1 guy did get arrested.
@@Eleriol84 Prison and all of his money effectively stolen from him
Moral of the story: it is a crime to profit from the rich
Its a wrong conclusion. Change your learning.
@@MSujiitShrestha GameStop
Exactly
@@smdash2920 Oof
yes.
And it is a crime to use the tools of the people of the inner circle, if you are not in the inner circle.
They hate to be played in the games they've designed.
Too many inconsistencies in the story. He didn’t go down because of what he was accused of, he went down because of how much of a threat to the HFs he was.
The fact that the crash was blamed on one guy trading out of his parents house when hedge funds and HFT manipulate the market with $ billions daily, is an absolute joke.
To stay safe He could have got involved in the game and worked for a firm
Oswald wasn't the lone shooter!! Bring on the conspiracies...
it isn't blame on the guy, if you actually search this up, the top 10 most likely reasons doesn't even have his name on here. This guy is a joke
You didn't listen to the entire video- he was placing millions and millions of fake orders, not spending a dime. It doesn't matter how much he had.
@@treyheaney9483 no matter what, the video is wrong, they're just milking the book, do you think if everyone blame him for the dip, you would atleast see news of him on the video, but they didn't even show any news video that talk about him. I bet this guy just made him up
Moral of the story, if you are rich and manipulate lower class traders, you are a successful institutional investor. If you manipulate rich institutional investors in their own game you are a felony criminal facing 300+ years in jail.
they make the rules. either obey or break
@@BuckingHorse-Bull How about change it overtime lol. Infiltrate your way in.
@@PainAmvs_ that to and thats how we got this video
so true. that is the way the world is designed.
this.
He didn't do anything wrong. He just was smart.
@@Mottbox See people like you are not seeing the bigger picture. He never spent the money. Bank's are doing similar things dear. Most Bank's don't have the money to run their orders. It's all in Cash flow system. Bank's are in massive amounts of debt. He was showing the system that their perfect unbrokeable system is Venerable and feeble at best.
@@saranichols9201 no idea what you’re talking about with over indebted banks. Or orders not being followed up with. Banks do not manipulate any market by making fake orders. That would violate the interest of the shareholders and the board in general
@@Mottbox HFT algos spoof all of the time, check out the research on Nanex. They just don't like outsiders doing it. It dropped so hard because it screwed up all of the algos that are allowed to run (and front-run) normally.
@@Mottbox you get scammed by the government everyday
@@Mottbox A first year Computer Science student could write that algo? I hope you're joking.
The algo's that are out there now are just skimming profits. That's their only purpose. Why is that legal? They should do away with all of this type of trading or let the guy with the best algo win.
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What a legend. Nav figured out how to play the game better than HFT's and got in trouble for it. Props to him.
if only he was aware that wall street are crybabies and sore losers.
no he used bots to fake trade to change price. they use bots to actually trade. thats the difference
This guy didn’t care about the money at the end of the day he kept living the same style with or without money because he was happy. This man reached a level of genius that most people dream of.
Really?
@@justinTime077 YES.
You really think genius people are happy?
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@@FiatFlipper how would we know? we ain't even close to be a genius lol
I bet the bankers that stole his money didnt get handcuffed.
Exactly, this is what had happened, the same thing, there have been sich flash crash before, and there were billions of a dollar that made that happen, few million can't make the market lost trillion dollars, there are buyers.
More on this:
He has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
I'm very annoyed that this was just swept under the rug during the video. How can you lose that much money by giving it to a "banker"? Who did he give that money too and what happened to it? This is what should be considered as fraud.
Of course they didn't
I wish he invested that money in crytocurrency business
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"He still rides his bike, plays football with his mates, and gets a filet-o-fish from McDonalds". this dude is killing it!
Nav was manipulating the manipulators, and they don’t like to lose. That’s the only real crime here.
Yep
exactly.
This is why they have extremely strict and convoluted rules. Only the approved manipulators are allowed to understand the rules properly (and if they don't, they get a warning). If an unapproved manipulator doesn't know about some obscure rule, off to jail with him!
exactly
Facts dude a legend. They mad cuz they was trying to cheat buddy and he got smarter and fought back
Stock exchange: Creates High frequency Trading
Nav: Does High Frequency Trading
Stock Exchange: Arrest that f*****.
To be fair if he was just buying and selling at a high frequency there wouldn't have been a problem. What they did have a problem with was the fact that he kept cancelling orders to drive the price in the desired direction, therefore market manipulation. I don't know if industrial trading algos cancel orders to manipulate prices though
@@curiously-cinnamon enter HFT spoofing
@@curiously-cinnamon they do, don't worry.
@@curiously-cinnamon order books get filled with fluff orders all the time. it just depends on how a judge/prosecutor/investigator etc interprets it if its legal or not. they essentially punished this guy for taking advantage of human psychology, which is all most daytrading is, anyways.
@@curiously-cinnamon If you know anything about trading at all you'd know that cancelling orders cannot drive prices, also HFTs cancel orders all the time.
He was convicted for beating the Investment Bankers at their own game. That's hilarious!!!
Lol how the fuck does 40 million in profit crash a global market that's bullshit
you clearly have no idea what investment bankers do, i think you must mean he beat the investment bank at their own game?
They should be convicted. He should get price for what he did, not conviction
this is why we need gov gone becasue we almost had nice things but fuck gov
She's well known broker and lucrative broker.
The Flash Crash happened ONE MINUTE AFTER he turns his computer off and goes for dinner. He was a scapegoat, poor guy
my thoughts too.
@@oliverf944 yes but techncally that makes sense. Because the lives we see are still behind
Crooks on wall street that caused 2008 got bailed out but this guy goes to jail? Hilarious!
He ended up getting a slap on the wrist. The biggest tragedy is that he lost all the money he made.
@@innosam123 true. But it doesn’t mean that much for him. It’s like playing video game for him, just trying accumulating points . Sometimes I feel the same way....
Storyline for this(banks being saved to normal people being put to prison) is: "From bailed to jailed" real quick!
@Lenny Mill oh yeah how could I got forget when I got paid all those executive bonuses even after almost blowing up the US economy? Silly me
@Lenny Mill so the crooks that got insanely large severance package for wiping out your parents’ retirement fund didn’t get bailed out?
The real scammers, large hedge funds, had a problem with them getting outsmarted by a kid
@Nekolover GME go brrrrr💸
Yep. And their goons aren't some guys down at the chip shop, they're the FBI and the DoJ.
At the end of the day he didn't even want or care about the money. He saw a system he could exploit, a video game he could play and win at, and he won.
It's not about the money... its about sending a message
Well said
True he never cared about the money away.
Did he not care or did he just get it scammed?
@@THE-BIG-JP-REILS but hes not Joker, he did not burn all of that money in front of his goons
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no he used bots to fake trade to change price. they use bots to actually trade. thats the difference
If the house loses the player is always at fault. Funny how it goes.
Exactly, my thought during the video. The banks and financial firms have been stealing from us for decades, it's time they got a taste of their own medicine.
Yeah, so the high frequency bots can screw the day traders, but once he makes a smarter bot to outsmart theirs then he's the bad guy... Bullsh1t! 🐂💩
Or when a black or brown mans dose it its fraud but when a white man dose it its ok the world is fuck up
@@aaammm1888 it's all about perceptions. If you expect people to die and they do it's normal. When they die unexpectedly everyone losses their minds. Example if I call ahead of time and say we're dropping bombs on Iran. Its normal. If one explodes in downtown Chicago everyone goes crazy over an act of terrorism. What this guy did was unexpected. The market panicked and lives we're ruined. Not really his fault. But still a case of fiscal terrorism.
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So here what I don't understand. So Goldman can pump in fake trades but an average joe can't.
Seems like you understand it perfectly. Godmsn can pump in fake trades but an average Joe can't.
There is the difference that Goldman actually executes a lot of there trades. The problem here was that the vast majority of his trades were never finished. Goldman by the sense of it scale does a much smaller % of unfinished trades. They also have to explain any weird behavior so they don't engage much in it.
Yes exactly
It’s the Politicians greed that is the problem, most of this mkt is akin to a casino. The gov could tax trades, orders or orders not filled. Anyone really think that the hft (s) dint get in front and skim a penny off your biweekly 401(k) purchase?
bgi firms couldnt accept losing to average joe
The rich don’t like it when the little guy plays the game better than them
nor does the global economy when it gets illegal manipulated
How can we support this guy
@@Dawson-q1c he's doing the exact same thing the other big firms are doing. He just did it better than them. And now they're crying like babies because he's taking advantage of firms who take advantage of the daily people
then it's considered cheating!
@@josevilla3709 by acting like him, duh and expose corruption
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This fella was nothing more than a low-level scapegoat.
@@g0ddyie Truth > Originality
How so?
@@ambassador8524 because Universa investments caused the crash. he just hopped on the wave
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100% agree. 50mil isn't even enough to move one of my oil equities. He just did what everyone else was doing, but he's brown and not connected, so he's not allowed.
Dudes being used as a scape goat for someone else's mistake
True... He didn't cause the flash crash, instead those stupid high frequency bots did. He's just the patsy.
honestly if the system was made this way he didn't steal. They shouldn't let people place tons of orders and canceling them to excite the computers. Otherwise we need to go back to the past without those automatic computer kinda stealing from everyone their cut everytime we buy or sell .
Real pro (c)traders had to blame someone
@@sylvainh2o Those computers are literally milking the stock market and should be illegal. Originally, people bought stocks to provide finances to a company and be part of it, and with time get rewarded with dividends and a higher stock value in the long term. Now people, or I would say computers, just enter and exit positions in seconds, which may seem efficient, but makes it actually look like a gambling game for an average trader.
@@blankneverlosegaming6374 yep it's a huge problem it should go back to this a more stable stock market where the numbers make sense.
This is literally what large Banks do every single day to commodities futures.
and when they get caught they get a small fine. smh
@@vvolfflovv IIIIFFFF they get caught
they just don't like others playing their game lol
Yeah dude, it sounds like this man was an escape goat to the greedy capitalist economy we live in the modern age
so who is the criminal here.
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To him it was just a number game, accumulating points, the dollar sign behind it has no value for him, what a genius.
Yes, he did an illegal thing, what a genius
@@orchlongala8064 he reported the inefficiency to the financial authority before being arrested. He helped the market fix a loophole. So not a genius maybe but a fucking saviour. You are more criminal for trolling, believing in news crap and sharing this ignorance.
@@orchlongala8064 where is the illegality? Because he did it, it is illegal? All Bankers use illegal activities to steal money from you and me.
This has got to be the most unfair trial I've heard about in a while.
Ever heard of julian assange?
Why? He was let off with 1 year house arrest. Which I think is acceptable, although no punishment would be best.
No Julian assange is still under arrest and is currently in prison.
Solitude imprisonments and he only get to see light one hour a day. That's a human rights abuse by western countries but nobody cares about it.
Aaron Swartz. Look him up
Respect to him for being in it for the game and not the gains
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This better be a Netflix film in a year...
id rather have that boy have his privacy
A Dev Patel film is being made on this.
YES!!!
There is an older film starring a young Obi Wan Kenobi that is basically this story.
The jokes on wallstreet, his money is actually in hidden accounts offshore, just waiting for things to cooloff.
If a guy like him started teaching the ordinary person how to counter the ripoff tactics of the investment system, he'd be an international hero.
Gotta have $$ to do this
Yes, selling course online. Become another Wozak
way too hard to understand even harder to explain to idiots.
The top 0.0002% will get him killed.
and he'd soon have "committed suicide" under mysterious circumstances
Feels like this documentary is made to deceitfully frame this guy as the sole person responsible. The banks and Hedge Funds do this all day everyday.
yes exactly one minute after he traded for 7 hours read the time at the bottom of the screen there wording is super manipulative
@@RaysNewLife His dinner that particular night must be atleast worth it. Cant the man stop to enjoy life for a moment. geez.
i fully agree PK. nothing makes sense in this "official" story.
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Took 11 years for the middle class to realize they could be Nav too.
hm no?! those things are not related at all!!!!!!!!!!!
GME was short sold for over 140%, meaning that if you'd buy all the available stocks that were at like 3 dollar, you knew that the hedge fund who basically borrowed more stocks than were available would have to buy something that would have become infinitely rare... if you know basic economics, you know the price of something that is infinitely rare, is infinitely high, but since they borrowed it, they'd have to pay up anyway.
so these two things are not close to the same. the algorithms this guy was running is not close to the same concept.
the hedge fund short selling GME just didn't do proper market research, because GME had a new positive looking team and strategy to continue online already back in the summer, whilst they, the fund, also bet way too risky, one that if/when lost, could basically break the market.
@@pyruvicac.id_ are the hedge funds using Navs tactic to drive down the price to scare ppl into selling their GME bags?
Did Nav create short ladder attack?
@@akaiye
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Not really.. this guy is a genius with a great sense for multipication and arithmatics.
Wall Street : The stock fell, what should we do?
Wall Street 2 : Blame the kid in England.
Nav : Tomorrow is football time!!!!!
Banks sold crappy MBS to their own clients and then shorted it in 2008 without any penalties but this dude made some money of some trades and got arrested.... wow
Shows how corrupt they are man. Won't be surprised if they made him sign an NDA
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This needs to be turned into a movie, what a ride lol
Into a riot u mean
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I agree
@@evelynjulia3458 lol
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Where's the litigation against the people who stole his money? What a world.
fact
U shud be asking litigation against other bot operators that worked on same rules and aided the crash
You're not going to win against the people who got all the money
never leave your winnings in a broker's account
Seems too fishy to be true. Sounds like the rich just took "their" money back.
So rich bullies turned into crybabies over this guy. Lol.
yeh what gamestop!??! haha
@@TheAaronuk10 we'll see a documentary about it too, wait for it.
ha ha ha ha ha ha - sore losers... ain't they ?!
For real lol
@@TheAaronuk10 he single handedly was WSB
So it's okay for big financial institutions to take advantage of people but if one guy beat them on ther own game. They call it "illegal". How ironic.
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@@BenTrades They soon knock on your door with handcuffs 😉
i mean its true
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Halfway through the video - he is already A hero in my view.
Well told story. What a shame for him, that he was not too big to fail unlike the Wall Street banks. It's always easier to go after the little guy.
So true man
Fortunately for him, he got off easy. He was given home confinement for one year... Most of which was during this lockdown 😂
I just hope he wasn't permabanned from trading and he gets back to making money.
@@clashoflands he is banned from trading forever.
@@katzenschildkroete That sucks...
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There's gotta be a film director somewhere looking for this guy. He's a Hollywood story material!
Now that the case came to an end, we can see the movie by end of 2021.
@BobbyG LMAO
share the sh1t out of this and i am sure there will be that movie. 1 i wil defo look forward to watching.
He make 900k per day. U think hes interested?
This guy is a hero, he should be remembered as one of the first humans to successfully rebel against the pervasive and destructive nature of uncontrolled artificial intelligence.
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This right here fellas... this a perfect movie script, just find someone that is willing to direct it
It's coming ... with the guy in Slumdog Millionaire, Dev Patel, playing the lead.
@@rasputinswalloper475 Yeah! I can totally see Dev Patel playing this character
@@curiously-cinnamon I read it in Variety Magazine web page, so it may well actually happen.
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@@curiously-cinnamon Me too. Also, read the book Flash Crash by Liam Vaughn, it tells the story in detail.
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But Nav didn't really manipulate the markets... he manipulated the HFT bots who in turn manipulated the market. In my opinion, if you're analyzing the orders being submitted, trying to connect that to a stock movement, and you get it wrong, that's on you for having a bad system.
@@eliasm2594 How did he change the price of anything? He didn't, the HFT bots did based on the orders NAV was submitting.
@@eliasm2594 Again, Nav did not execute any trades that changed the market value of anything. He only submitted orders, HFT bots were the ones who saw the orders and changed the pricing of the market with no valid reasoning.
@@eliasm2594 But the orders he executed didn't manipulate the markets. I understand how this works, I'm wondering if you do.
Erik is right
Thinking too logical haha remember the ticket is to a circus
he won, the 1% lost. but sportsmanship doesnt exist with the 1%
LMAOOO
He used the fake order to trick the bots to buy or sell... maybe its the bots should be legal...
@@957543 I'm not sure the market would function at all without computer code reacting to the information humans give it.
when this video is recommended after watching a GME video.
Today you meet him under the Name deepfuckingvalue
I think he has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nicholas William - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
Lol right... warning to wsb perhaps?
This 👆
Fellow Aspie here.
A legend among man and among retail traders. Salute to Nav!
*beats investment firms at their own game*
SEC: Highly illegal activity detected!
@Benjamin Roberts haha :*(
Spoofing.
Interesting how they are quick to get this guy doing something so complicated and when madoff does a simple ponzi scheme they take decades.
@@jaxstax2406 so true 😂😂🤣
Sums it up.
So you're telling me, a genius who outsmarted the entire stock market, did not know how to save his money and lost it all. Just seems way too unlikely.
that's what im saying....he gave it to his buddy and it's sitting somewhere waiting for him
@@badmonkey91 He has aspergers which is why he was vulnerable to being conned. It is probably why he was great at trading as well.
Asperger syndrome (AS), also known as Asperger's, is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.
@@montasnorgaisse4345 Yeah, I'm highly aware of how aspergers affects people. I used to manage an technology department and I had several subordinates that had autism and aspergers. In fact, the majority of folks in that field have a spectrum disorder. I didn't make my original statement randomly.
I knew a few "super genius" type guys with spectrum disorder. Extremely talented programmers. And they talked about schemes like this constantly. The first place these guy's minds goto is "Yeah, but how do we get away with it though?". I promise you he thought about it way before he started. Probably while he still worked at the firm.
Just because people on the spectrum have challenges, it doesn't make them idiots. They think about things on a much higher level than the average Joe does, because they can obsess about it. If he didn't have a plan, I know - almost for certain because of my experience with these guys - that he would not have started.
His cash is probably sitting safely somewhere, waiting for the statute of limitations to run out.
@@badmonkey91 yea that crossed my mind as well. You are likely right that he has the money some where safe.
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So are we just supposed to ignore the institutional traders who literally do this everyday......and because they lost one day they decide to prosecute? the fuck?
Welcome to the 21th Century
@@felixspilles6737 21st*
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Come on guys, he was just providing liquidity to the markets
LOL!
nice one.
Yes and no. Yes because he obviously did have some orders hit, but overall the issue is with the spoofing - which is not providing liquidity because you don't intend to be filled. It's illegal and rightfully so, drives me insane as a trader. I still see it happening every day in the S&P500 futures though, just not on this scale.
@@MasterWestt Maybe I'm too cynical but I don't think the same trades from a big institutional firm would have received jail time b/c "liquidity to the market" :-D
Nice try. But your joke doesn't make sense if trades are not fulfilled.
If he was on wall street, they would be calling him a genius who really understood the markets and took advantage of it.
he was on wallstreet
@@extropiantranshuman no he was in England genius
@@goldfingershat wow genius - do you even know where stock trading takes place?
@@extropiantranshuman the comment implied that if he was WORKING on Wall Street, he would not have been punished. But if you would have watched the video, he was actually trading from his parents house, in England.(Wall street is in New York, not England. This might seem like an obvious point, but you are having great difficulty understanding it. Also the NYSE isn’t the only stock exchange in the world, shocker I know!
@@goldfingershat he's working there - with the stock market. That's not true - if he was working in a firm that dictates these laws - he would not be impacted as much - but there's no guarantee. If you read it enough, you'd see that.
Which stock exchange did you think he was on to trigger a US investigation? A UK exchange, not a new york one? Last time I checked - the UK is not in the US. I'm sorry this is difficult for you, I know.
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Thank you, I copied and pasted his name on web browser and sent a email waiting for reply.
Your a trader until you make to much then your a criminal.
unless you are friends with uncle sam
Maybe don't put in millions of buy orders and take them away at the last second to manipulate markets? That's why he's a criminal.
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Capitalists when you lose: “You just didn’t work hard enough”
Capitalists when you win: “Hey that’s illegal!!”
Socialists: give me your money or your hardwork is illegal and unfair to me
The Robinhood thing puts all these historic events in a whole new light. WTF, why did this kid go to jail, it sounds like there was probably hundreds of programs/algorithms that contributed equally or even more??
@@sammclone3967 its because his was the most effective. Fuck the system
I think he has been framed by big firms who were behind this, how can few millions crash a market, when, if you read Goldman Sachs balance sheets they make million in trading daily, yes daily. 14:40 this is what every institution does. There is no interview of this person, whereas Nick Leeson - the one behind the bankrupting of Barings Bank is very much active, of course, that can be his personnel call, but there is very fishy.
Bold of you to assume that's a capitalist trait
Don’t let r/wallstreetbets see this
too late
Was gonna say he's probably already a member
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@@BrianLouderback lol
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Essentially it is illegal for an individual to beat the ruling elites at their own game
2010: DJIA drops over 800 points / "OHMIGAWD IT'S A CAPITULATION"
2020: DJIA drops over 800 points / "Oh what the fuck did Trump tweet now?"
Doesn’t the fed manipulate the markets everyday?
Yes, but that supposedly stablises the economy (except it has nothing to do with it haha)
“PrOvIDeS LiQuItItY”
this last couple months. it's been tweets, and then bs about a stimulus, and this last weekend, thanksgiving week. I watched as 100k+ (aapl)call options went worthless as the hedges kept the price under 117. it's all rigged, all you have to do it see where and know how to take advantage of it.
@@TimberStiffy_ bruh there are way better companies to be invested in
@@TimberStiffy_ same here. I had 122 strikes for apple :/ had a few tesla (470 strike) options on, went from entry price of 4k to $70 and back up to $12,500. I was fortunate with that, and feel silly not topping up at the bottom. But when you're so long in a correction and when ur account isn't doing well, it's hard obviously
He did nothing wrong in my opinion. WallStreet is doing it every day.
This guys a genius ain’t no way he lost all that money or put it all in once place he’s too smart
its called aspergers
Not all people who are smart know how to manage their money. Broke accountants exist.
Maybe he struck a deal, by negotiation and threat to counter the charges pressed with others. He might have signed a disclaimer promising to never teach his systems to the masses
@BobbyG What socially? He did it all from his bedroom. You really believe he didn't transfer money via proxy fake investment funds to somewhere else? Or he got into crypto and has a huge wallet of crypto currency. I don't buy it. Aspergers doesn't make you dumb. Even if some fund he was in conned him, there is no way he didn't diversify. Also, he made millions, really think he couldn't make millions again? Specially during the Corona Crash, while he was in house arrest! The guy is a genius, these people don't give him enough credit because Wallstreet is filled with Extroverts that can't understand the autismo power guys like Nav have.
@@pmp1337 Well said. He's smart enough to know his money isn't safe in traditional ways. Look at civil forfeiture in US as an example. Police have legally robbed US residents of millions, maybe even billions. Even the rich hide their money (Panama Papers). Rich or poor, government will take every opportunity to separate you from your assets.
They spent time in McDonalds on figuring out how to arrest him then knocked on his door, he walked down the stairs...
I'd be like eff off, you have no jurisdiction here.
The whole story sounds like a load of caca if you ask me. Someone that intense doesn't just get ripped for every penny.
Hahaha true... too much thinking by just knocking the f door and ask
Word! This is such bs
@@Karl__Pierre FBI/DOJ raid and they waited at the front door for him to come down? ROFL
I was rooting for Nev this whole documentary. Who's with me!
Are you a day trader?
Me
He is just the gamer generation who treated the futures market as a game....so yeah Im rooting for Nev.
system wants volatility, machines can give them hell.
When you invest you're buying a day you don't have to work
@benkent6187 You're right, it's obvious a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance
Obviously trading in bitcoin is very volatile and risky to trade that's the reason most traders trade with a company
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The people who scammed him for 70m $ should be the one in jail or he just hid all the profit?
He probably hid 50 and gave 20 to a friend to keep till he gets out
Well when you give your money to "Return Investors" it's almost equivalent to gambling. For example, If you make a $10,000 bet than England will win a match, you can't go and demand a refund when they lose. It's the same here. You can't prosecute someone for legally spending money you gave them willingly.
That's what I'm saying, do they just take all the money and put it in accounts all hush hush. Like what do you do when you strip w man of like 30 mil
He was the mastermind behind the fraudulent schemes he claimed to have lost money to. He had 5 years to cover up 🤣
@@shah.n2099 All his trades were publicly visible and traceable, that's the problem. I'm sure he found a way to stash a small amount but it's hard making it unnoticeable.
casinos also ban successful gamblers when they beat the odd by maths and statistics. but if you beat the system in general, the system will come back and bring you down.
This isn't even the system, this is literally the government simping hard for the system
This is exactly what most of the city firms, hedge funds are doing. Placing massive orders, then cancelling at once vise versa. This guy Navinder was made a scape goat. The house does not like to loose.... blah blah blah...
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It’s funny how it goes with stocks only “smart institutions are allowed and expected to make a lot of money when a guy outsmarts them they say it’s illegal what a legend honestly.
that's sad honestly
“ he purposely manipulated the markets”
Lol
And where did he learn to do that ?
Haha, that fatty considers him to be Soros or something lol.
he was born with ability to ride the market.
I mean anyone who enters the stock market manipulates teh market - because it's composed of everyone there. So should everyone who's ever been in the stock market go to jail?
I guarantee this guy is a multi-millionaire again we just don't know because he still is keeping it lowkey
@Wayne Halliday If his sentence is only one year house arrest chances are any restrictions would be lifted after that time. Dude sees the future, so why not?
@@joshboy88420 dude doesn't see the future, that was the whole point of this vid and the case against him. He was successful without high frequency manipulation, so as long as hes not completely banned from trading, he'll do ok.
@@ctdieselnut you can't simply ban someone from trading. He can trade under his father's name or distant relatives' name.
@Wayne Halliday There is a decentralised financial system, which is completely separate from the current corrupt financial system. I bet he is in the cryptocurrency, digital asset space. The decentralised financial system is the future of finance and will eliminate the current one. Search up Defi - Decentralised Finance.
I'm pretty sure he been active... Specially with market crash happen last year... No way he missed that..
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When big mafias does it it is "high frequency trading" when a normal dude does it it is "market manipulation"
"You can make money, but if you make too much, we'll arrest you"
Just like they done to megaupload
So he made a quant analysis computer and ya'll are saying his money nosedived because of some "Foolish Investments" ?
I have no idea on what he did wrong. He made a bet and won. While others lost.
Just because it wasn't done by big company backed by government but some ordinary guy it's wrong? What exactly he did illegal?
This clownish crime charge
@@gabbar51ngh They say it was spoofing. It's a form of market manipulation. It's about placing orders to buy or sell stocks (but not executing those orders). This creates the impression of high demand for the asset. Other traders place their orders based on that impression. The spoofer cancels the trade, takes a profit and the other traders lose their shirts.
Casino rules
this is the guy thats trying to prevent the market makers from stopping me out before it shoots up. respect
Or he's the guy who makes your purchase cost more and your sales net less.
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Yo I didn't know Kate was this popular,my cousin trade with her for some months now, I tried but couldn't understand anything it's not my thing tho so I passed Lol. I can testify that trade pays very well because my cousin at 23 bought a house already.
When hedge funds do it it's business when a regular person does it it's market manipulation
WAS thinking the same
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Bruh why can’t he use that argument in court??
@@sportedittz1091 its not an argument, its populist trash talk, leaving out any details for a catchy line
@@blablabla6975 Because the truth doesn't work when dealing with a crooked criminal system.
Everyone in Wall Street gangsta until Nav's mom wakes her little boy up
lol
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This short documentary is awesome, I was more interested in it than I am in the best of the movies I've ever seen. Liam's storytelling makes it so easy to stick and not wanting to stop watching
The prosecutors went with that deal because the only thing jury would find him guilty of is melting their hearts❤️😂 This guy is my spirit animal 🥰
Wall Street Elites: "If you don't want to be poor, make better investments."
Navinder Sarao does exactly what the Wall Street Elites do, and gets rich...
Wall Street Elites" "No, not THAT way. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..."
To be fair he’s not making investments he’s trading.
cringe
Their (Wall Street Elites) get out of jail card is the fact that they are investing other peoples money, so it is in the interest of many.
So the ppl who robbed him of his earned millions were not prosecuted lol
The shoe boy bankers never get prosecuted. I bet you they have pimped this poor guy out of all he knows. Disgusting pigs
That part of the story doesn't make much sense for multiple reasons. I think the government or the investment bank confiscated it and split the profit amongst themselves. They need us to believe he was swindled out his money.
Well when you give your money to "Return Investors" it's almost equivalent to gambling. For example, If you make a $10,000 bet than England will win a match, you can't go and demand a refund when they lose. It's the same here. You can't prosecute someone for legally spending money you gave them willingly.
@@rje613 Why would he have the need to give money to "Return Investors"?
@@johnnypilko845 I’m not sure whether I believe he did, it’s definitely a possibility though. You’d be surprised how many people pay others to invest money for them. Either way, whether he did it or not is irrelevant, the point is that you can’t complain when you give someone else money and they spend it ‘incorrectly’. It’s perfectly legal, and all these people demanding that the investors get jail time clearly don’t understand investing and/or the law.
A year of house arrest, guess what he did sitting at home.
Pretty sure he's been chipped :p
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imagine what risk to society he is outside -_-