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  • I Made a Fake Multiplayer .io Game
    With the rise of .io games and fake multiplayer games, I tried making a fake online game with bots. Here's how it turned out!
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  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation 2 роки тому +11150

    That's why we have an universal way of determining if a player is a bot, you spin in circle near them, and if they spin back, they are real.

    • @brandonstevens6886
      @brandonstevens6886 2 роки тому +682

      ez just code that in

    • @baumber1919
      @baumber1919 2 роки тому +445

      @@brandonstevens6886 true but no one does that yet so still viable

    • @brandonstevens6886
      @brandonstevens6886 2 роки тому +466

      @@baumber1919 Yeah that's fair. In my opinion the best way is to either check the log looking for websocket requests (which would indicate multiplayer) or turning off wifi once the game has loaded to see if the players are still moving which would indicate ai, however that cannot always be trusted as the game could easily implement a check for network status. The reason why these games do so well is really because of how easy it is to fake, even for someone with the technical knowhow.

    • @MinnueteCVP
      @MinnueteCVP 2 роки тому +84

      Or T bagging while looking up and down

    • @xogmaster
      @xogmaster 2 роки тому +59

      @@brandonstevens6886 even if you monitored the websocket requests they can just be fake too lmao

  • @InnerEagle
    @InnerEagle 2 роки тому +2945

    How to make true fake multiplayer:
    - *random name* joined the game
    -*random name69* logs off

  • @ailst
    @ailst 2 роки тому +3379

    As someone who writes AIs for other games, I'd say that there's many ways to make the AI more believable. Like trying to backstab players who are already fighting, running away when losing, actively searching for pickups, etc. Basically: Actively think about what you'd do yourself in a given situation and then code that into AI.

    • @trashyCorn.12
      @trashyCorn.12 Рік тому +74

      @@thealarm7057 but it's supposed to look like multiplayer for the people who don't know it's fake
      And having multiplayer in an actual multiplayer game doesent mean they added effort bc players being good at a game doesent mean the creator added effort.

    • @esolbdivad
      @esolbdivad Рік тому +64

      You do realize your watching bad gamedev not good game dev right

    • @alexskorpik11play79
      @alexskorpik11play79 Рік тому +10

      @@esolbdivad Bad gamedevs dont make quallity games like these

    • @cris5555
      @cris5555 Рік тому +10

      @@alexskorpik11play79 This is not a quality game

    • @alexskorpik11play79
      @alexskorpik11play79 Рік тому

      @@cris5555 but did i ask? thats right, who gave you the talking instinct, nobody. So all right, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.. thats right, a guy like me can have opinions, so can you understand that your self being is unaware of that? thats right, you dont know people AND YOU have opinions.

  • @skateraptor12
    @skateraptor12 2 роки тому +1020

    When the bots are always perfectly looking at the middle of the player, it looks a bit awkward. It would be slightly more believable if they looked like they were delayed and trying to acquire the target

    • @DzekoZacher
      @DzekoZacher Рік тому +20

      and probably sometimes make them randomly snap their view or just look at a general direction, don't need to perfectly stare at the player's soul

  • @Zaary
    @Zaary 2 роки тому +5524

    says multiplayer game, all enemies constantly aim at you

    • @ballroomscott
      @ballroomscott 2 роки тому +524

      Yeah, I'm surprised he never did anything about that, or even brought it up.
      Edit: I notice a lot of people not understanding what I mean. He may have talked about it and worked on a "fix" for it, but the fix didn't actually fix it and he doesn't bring that up. That's what I mean. He didn't actually fix the problem and then doesn't mention that he didn't fix the problem, just goes on as if it is fixed.

    • @MRBFDTL
      @MRBFDTL 2 роки тому +140

      Yeah it's like all the players/bots don't like you

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 2 роки тому +305

      @@MRBFDTL "look at this noob lmao"
      "lets bully him"

    • @dangerdoge8299
      @dangerdoge8299 2 роки тому +134

      The leaderboard that never gets updated and it seem you can outrun enemies 100% of the time.

    • @KriBples
      @KriBples 2 роки тому +9

      8:57

  • @PeterAuto1
    @PeterAuto1 2 роки тому +6853

    it's a problem that most enemies go directly to the player. They AIs should see NPCs and player as the same

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 2 роки тому +295

      this.. unlike Mario Kart, this really is just the player vs the rest

    • @profilename244
      @profilename244 2 роки тому +20

      Reply to Comment by Peter Auto

    • @chickenofdoomfox4688
      @chickenofdoomfox4688 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah

    • @pwl2992
      @pwl2992 2 роки тому +6

      @@12DAMDO true

    • @valgorup8127
      @valgorup8127 2 роки тому +10

      Easier said than done m8

  • @rgbok5453
    @rgbok5453 2 роки тому +496

    Another good thing to add is to have the ai switch focus on other ai from time to time if they get close so it looks more real. And make the player tracking slightly less precise

  • @cameronhunt5967
    @cameronhunt5967 Рік тому +66

    The way almost all enemies always face you I think would give it away. Having them face a random enemy with closer ones being more likely might look more natural

  • @kindasad5890
    @kindasad5890 2 роки тому +6185

    U shoud add a an 'enemy ' that spins around upon seeing you intending to team,it starts to follow you for a while without attacking you then all of a sudden it backstabs you. Cant have a game without teamers and backstabers. (Hope you tak e my suggestion 😉)

    • @_epiphany5621.
      @_epiphany5621. 2 роки тому +75

      This was 11 months ago.

    • @Johsther
      @Johsther 2 роки тому +223

      @@_epiphany5621. though it is getting recommended to everyone now

    • @borger4505
      @borger4505 2 роки тому +56

      Oh god please no i already suffered enough because of teamers in Brawlstars

    • @ahlatagaci2018
      @ahlatagaci2018 2 роки тому +18

      @@borger4505 hell yeah. I'm a Brock main, I always play showdown, and I hate Edgar so much. And when people start teaming with Edgar, I instantly lose my mental health..

    • @borger4505
      @borger4505 2 роки тому +13

      @@ahlatagaci2018 i feel really happy about stopping to play Brawl stars, as good as the game was unbalanced characters along with a really toxic community ruined everything

  • @anthonycannet1305
    @anthonycannet1305 2 роки тому +2680

    Simple ai to implement: every tick, pick the nearest enemy within a certain range to fight. If hp >25% then commit to fighting (even if hp drops below 25%) but if hp

  • @thilsiktonix
    @thilsiktonix 2 роки тому +16

    Add:
    - Characters will stand for a moment, slowly spinning, or will simply stand there rather than immediateky engaging with the player upon spawn.
    - Some enemies may randomly attack the "noob" player upon sight, seeing a free and easy kill, with the exclusion of the "noob" player, who is a total idiot.
    - A secondary noob player, who is much like the "enemy", but will occasionally try to attack, only at a slower, much more poor rate.
    - Actual leaderboard, but with kills capped at 234 because who tf would play this game for that long?

  • @chattaboxxx2332
    @chattaboxxx2332 2 роки тому +10

    Ive watched at least a dozen other game design channels on UA-cam and gonna be honest, im 3 minutes in and your sense of humour is already astronomically better than anything ive seen. Bravo.

  • @KeithGrant
    @KeithGrant 2 роки тому +1579

    not only do 90% of other "players" always aim at you, they do so with unnaturally smooth & accurate turning

    • @AD-wg8ik
      @AD-wg8ik 2 роки тому +12

      hater

    • @sourfar
      @sourfar 2 роки тому +126

      @@AD-wg8ik how are they hating? theyre just saying what could be improved

    • @SquirrelTheorist
      @SquirrelTheorist 2 роки тому +9

      @@sourfar r/wooosh?

    • @sourfar
      @sourfar 2 роки тому +76

      @@SquirrelTheorist what was the joke?

    • @chernobylite8468
      @chernobylite8468 2 роки тому +120

      @@sourfar none, reddit rotted their brain

  • @galaxyofreesesking2124
    @galaxyofreesesking2124 2 роки тому +2052

    "isn't really multiplayer"
    **shows a game that's known for being actually multiplayer**

    • @FlowXr
      @FlowXr 2 роки тому +101

      @FBI krunker i think

    • @bahnny
      @bahnny 2 роки тому +388

      That was most of them to be honest. Agar, and surviv both have big mp communities, with some bots to fill it out during empty times.

    • @galaxyofreesesking2124
      @galaxyofreesesking2124 2 роки тому +93

      @@bahnny yeah, i play surviv a lot, and it centers around mp. there's a lot of bots but those aren't artificial; players made them because they like hacking ig

    • @LynchtheFinch
      @LynchtheFinch 2 роки тому +47

      @@galaxyofreesesking2124 krunker and surviv dont have bots, it would be too complex to make fake multiplayer for surviv with it being battle royale and complex, and too hard to find a balance between straight up hackers and noobs in krunker

    • @galaxyofreesesking2124
      @galaxyofreesesking2124 2 роки тому +9

      @@LynchtheFinch they have bots. people make bot accounts to play for them wdym

  • @Alicyndaquil
    @Alicyndaquil 2 роки тому +21

    There are many games that give you the option of communication, and the other players show intelligence and understanding that no common AI can show.
    So, unless IO games secretly hold the technology of incredibly complex AI, i think it is safe to say the some IO games are actually multiplayer (also if you can play with your friends it means a server actually exists which defeats half the points of faking multiplayer

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 роки тому

      AI has existed since the 70’s. It’s not that unbelievable

    • @Alicyndaquil
      @Alicyndaquil 2 роки тому +7

      @@wolfetteplays8894
      I mean, that is true.
      But i hardly believe IO games developers have access to one that mimic humans this good when triple A games still have choice based dialogue instead of open communication with NPCs.

    • @shannypop2758
      @shannypop2758 Рік тому +3

      almost every single multiplayer game ever made will replace empty slots with bots. that's SO common and everyone is 100% aware of it. that doesn't make a game "fake multiplayer"

  • @machintruc9457
    @machintruc9457 2 роки тому

    That’s one of the best channel I ever seen… you largely deserve a million subscribers. Keep going on.

  • @ryanhuynh7509
    @ryanhuynh7509 2 роки тому +555

    The “players” never target other “players” but me. Some “players” while fight happens to be out of a screen for a second and vanished. But still, it’s a quite fun game:))

  • @theoverseer1775
    @theoverseer1775 2 роки тому +457

    I love how he was inspired by slither io when it's not fake multiplayer, there's just an option to play with bots on mobile when you have no internet

    • @PickledPickles-ir6gq
      @PickledPickles-ir6gq 2 роки тому +5

      Ok than what was the point of saying that if there’s an offline mode

    • @dr.angerous
      @dr.angerous 2 роки тому +47

      Lot of them are fake

    • @MadJack1
      @MadJack1 2 роки тому +38

      There are slot of mobile games that are fake multiplayer such as paper.io on the phone

    • @kiryuo.
      @kiryuo. 2 роки тому +9

      @@PickledPickles-ir6gq offline mode is against bots duh

    • @thornet6925
      @thornet6925 2 роки тому +9

      Can confirm slither is real have just tested no I don’t have a life

  • @ReportsGiveaway
    @ReportsGiveaway 2 роки тому +4

    Maybe a fun little addition would be a score traker that would calculate all the different people' scores and put them into the leaderboard even tho they are not playing multiplayer, another thing would be if the enemies were attacking you by chance and not always straight up coming towards you, for an example: When you're new into the game higher % enemies would attack you due to your lack of strenght and as you progress some of them will try running away instead of fighting to death with you, but otherwise, a fun lil' game

  • @abv-gn2gk
    @abv-gn2gk 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the entertaining and useful in some way video!

  • @PRIMEVAL543
    @PRIMEVAL543 2 роки тому +376

    „Hostile AI“:
    Make 2 out of 100 AI fight against each other so the player won’t notice the other 98 fight only the player
    sMoARt

    • @uni5396.
      @uni5396. 2 роки тому +6

      omg the talent

  • @accursedcursive4935
    @accursedcursive4935 2 роки тому +1865

    You designed the enemy AI with the wrong approach. Why can the enemies tell the difference between the player and other enemies? There's no reason to do this if you want fake multiplayer.

    • @SrIgort
      @SrIgort 2 роки тому +357

      Yeah, and it's really strange how when a enemy picks a target, he doesn't seem to change it until it's dead.

    • @slumber9781
      @slumber9781 2 роки тому +12

      True

    • @ebg13
      @ebg13 2 роки тому +151

      Agree, they should go after whoever is closest to them. And to keep them from turning around instantly as soon as someone comes just one pixel closer than their previous target, have the check on a random 1-10s cooldown.

    • @Orincaby
      @Orincaby 2 роки тому +57

      read his channel name, that's why.

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte 2 роки тому +10

      the part about the AI attacking other players probably has to do with trying to make it actually engaging for the *person* playing it. If the AI saw every other character as a player then youd have a lot less people directly fighting you. I definitely think he should increase the chance of the AI targeting another bot but making the AI see the player and the bots as the exact same is probably going a little too far

  • @eggussambus4590
    @eggussambus4590 2 роки тому +9

    You should add a lagging enemy for the true multiplayer
    Also make it so that the player sometimes bugs out

  • @Phigvgv
    @Phigvgv Рік тому

    THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST OF YOUR VIDEOS GOOD JOB😊

  • @RemasterExpert
    @RemasterExpert 3 роки тому +4527

    I like how he made Minecraft and an FPS shooter in Gamemaker, a 2D Engine
    Edit : Ik there are a lot of smart people out there who can ruin a joke by logical explanations, I don't have any problem with your comments but stop commenting the same thing as that stickman guy. You can still debate on 2d and 3d though.

    • @collin5577
      @collin5577 3 роки тому +80

      @@cewla3348 You are the reason I can’t

    • @jamasteranimations2206
      @jamasteranimations2206 2 роки тому +128

      3d and 2d are illusions, its all flat on a screen meaning its all 2d
      this means you can create a 3d fps in scratch if you wanted to (hence why people have already done it)

    • @RemasterExpert
      @RemasterExpert 2 роки тому +44

      @@jamasteranimations2206 the example you gave must be the worst one for what you are trying to say lol

    • @jamasteranimations2206
      @jamasteranimations2206 2 роки тому +37

      @@RemasterExpert i know what im talking about.
      its difficult, but you can make a 3d game in any 2d game engine.
      im serious

    • @ulshhtisaga2735
      @ulshhtisaga2735 2 роки тому +4

      @@jamasteranimations2206 They know they just found it surprising when they 1st saw it.

  • @gabmalagonpersonal
    @gabmalagonpersonal 2 роки тому +622

    you should make the ai turn from regular enemy to hostile when another bot is closer than the player
    Also add "regions" where when selected, set the list of names to a different list with different names
    EDIT: Since this has gotten more likes, make the leaderboard work (via giving the ai random amounts of kills, and when the ai kill other bots, they gain a kill, and having the player be able to climb up the ranks, and making killed ai get knocked to zero when killed.)
    And make the actual game a website too.

    • @angel-ig
      @angel-ig 2 роки тому +8

      Perfect suggestions. I don't know why this doesn't have any replies lmao

    • @RANDOMDUDECULTleader
      @RANDOMDUDECULTleader 2 роки тому

      Why did you write so much🤨

    • @SpydersByte
      @SpydersByte 2 роки тому +1

      @@RANDOMDUDECULTleader "so much"? Its like a single paragraph ffs. Go back to twitter.

  • @greyofficial1
    @greyofficial1 2 місяці тому

    Heyo im a subscriber of Maddbz i just wanted to say your old dbz videos were my childhood and today after hearing the news of the passing of dragon ball creator (akira toriyami) flooded my brain with nostalgia,so i was wondering where you went and found you here,im glad to see your doing well here still on youtube as a gamedev.i hope everything goes well and take care:)

  • @BBJF12
    @BBJF12 2 роки тому +714

    Just some quick feedback, the AI locking on to you flawlessly looks VERY bot-like. Maybe adding more jittery looking directions or a degree of inaccuracy would be more human-like

    • @asierx7047
      @asierx7047 2 роки тому +29

      Make the enemy attack a random spot close to the player

  • @nevogolan6505
    @nevogolan6505 2 роки тому +121

    It kinda ruins the illusion when most of the enemies face you despite having other enemies nearby

  • @RealRalsei
    @RealRalsei 2 роки тому +5

    You should make them stand still for a split second when they spawn in to emulate someone processing everything going on

  • @geographyppl
    @geographyppl 4 місяці тому +1

    To make this more believable, I would suggest that the skill of the enemy is changed if the enemy spawns with a better weapon, showing experience and skill because of the time it requires to gain each starter weapon.

  • @blaez6746
    @blaez6746 2 роки тому +369

    just set the name spin=team and spin, if it's online, someone would definitely spin with you

    • @Z.A.N.E
      @Z.A.N.E 2 роки тому +35

      Not gonna lie- if Agar.io, Slither.io, etc were actually multiplayer and someone did a lil spin, I'd 100% team with them and kill anything in their path

    • @veronicaoviedo711
      @veronicaoviedo711 2 роки тому +40

      @@Z.A.N.E I think Slither.io is actually online

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec 2 роки тому +27

      @@veronicaoviedo711 so is agar

    • @wokeuplikethis7729
      @wokeuplikethis7729 2 роки тому +9

      Cause slither and agar were the OG .io gamea

    • @oz459
      @oz459 2 роки тому +14

      @@Z.A.N.E both are actually multiplayer lmao

  • @BeeFuzz
    @BeeFuzz 2 роки тому +1186

    BeeFuzz

    • @genzuo
      @genzuo 2 роки тому +35

      @@cool_bug_facts you can just add some perlin noise to their movement/look direction

    • @GhostGlitch.
      @GhostGlitch. 2 роки тому +22

      @@genzuo Perlin noise seems to be the solution to everything.

    • @genzuo
      @genzuo 2 роки тому +12

      @@GhostGlitch. yep, pretty much

    • @elsuperfish
      @elsuperfish 2 роки тому +2

      Not really, it would just change the problem from "Why are they all looking at the player?" to "Why are they all locking onto the player?"

    • @BeeFuzz
      @BeeFuzz 2 роки тому +4

      @@elsuperfish easy fix to that would be to make other bots fight eachother organically, maybe make so they also back away from possible 2v1's

  • @ImBulletm9
    @ImBulletm9 Рік тому

    One thing you should add for authenticity is when enemies spawn in right in front of you, they have a brief pause, and after they kill another they pause as well. the instant snap isn't something all players will do.

  • @moon765
    @moon765 Рік тому +1

    it's a bit weird for bot/s to spawn right next, to you to make it more realistic you make them spawn out of the player's sight so it also looks they were looking for someone as well, like out of the the whole map they decided to spawn right next to you

  • @farbencut
    @farbencut 2 роки тому +306

    Things I would change: More AI variations and more AI players that attack other AI players. There’s still too many players just attacking you.
    Make an actual leaderboard, but make it easy to get to the top: Most of the fun comes from being the best.

    • @ABCandfriends
      @ABCandfriends 2 роки тому +13

      about a weird player that will circle around other ai like crazy 6 yearolds trying to annoy people

    • @coltonkarpes9634
      @coltonkarpes9634 2 роки тому +1

      if he is going to make the not look at him as much he should keep it for the "guy in orange gear" just because.

    • @coltonkarpes9634
      @coltonkarpes9634 2 роки тому +1

      @@ABCandfriends and always make those ones red and blue (you know why)

    • @ABCandfriends
      @ABCandfriends 2 роки тому +1

      @@coltonkarpes9634 lololo

    • @ABCandfriends
      @ABCandfriends 2 роки тому +1

      @@coltonkarpes9634 ye the annoying orange gi year old

  • @3liony
    @3liony 2 роки тому +289

    I'd say instead of having a separate hostile ai to attack the other ai's just have the ai target who's closest regardless of if it's the player or ai (or actually what I would probably do is have it "lock on" to someone within a certain range and then change when they die or leave range and maybe have a chance of changing to someone closer to simulate how people kinda get tunnel vision when focused on one target and to prevent just like, wildly switching back and forth between pursuing different targets.)

  • @The_Vanished
    @The_Vanished 2 роки тому

    That turned out decent, definitely release it

  • @obedotto4465
    @obedotto4465 2 роки тому +1

    8:35 lol that was so good I almost subscribed

  • @chunye215
    @chunye215 2 роки тому +83

    - make bots attack each other more often
    - add fake lagging to some bots ie teleport them around a few pixels in random intervals
    - make bots not move for 1 to 5 seconds after spawning, as if a player needs a few secs to realize the game has started

    • @kailomonkey
      @kailomonkey 2 роки тому +1

      agree. I think spawn in fake players need to spawn in facing north same as the player and yea slight delay. and definitely the fakes should be more wary of the nearest bot, trying to face them to stave off attacks.
      next step would be processes for AI to decide who to attack. nearest? the one attacking? the one running? leave a powerful killer alone and run away? team up? could get complex...

    • @limonlimon9134
      @limonlimon9134 2 роки тому

      And put like hackers players wich has random spawn in the match

  • @duardocamps
    @duardocamps 2 роки тому +47

    i tried to play these games with my brother once, i always wondered why we never got in the same match together.

    • @zoot7981
      @zoot7981 2 роки тому +14

      because the servers have lots of players lol

    • @legorocketraccoon8297
      @legorocketraccoon8297 2 роки тому +10

      Me and my brother have managed to get into the same server in slither.io but it does take multiple tries. I'd suggest one of you stay in the game and the other keep joining games after reloading the page until they get into the same one.

    • @Gerpar_
      @Gerpar_ 2 роки тому +14

      There are certainly a lot of .io games that have actual multiplayer. I don't know why he was saying most of them weren't, when most of the ones I'd tried with friends we could actually manage to get into the same server a lot of the times.
      The mobile ones are almost always fake multiplayer though.

    • @mettapeachhead2076
      @mettapeachhead2076 2 роки тому

      Same

  • @yiak65
    @yiak65 5 місяців тому

    I like how the first two pickups were potion effects and then you switched to armor enchantments.

  • @mr.bigman_nibba
    @mr.bigman_nibba 4 місяці тому

    I got to play this! Glad to have known this to begin with

  • @MGSLurmey
    @MGSLurmey 2 роки тому +760

    Another thing this would need to be convincing that I haven't seen anyone mention is.. they need to not perfectly face you all the time. No human player is that pixel perfect with their mouse.
    They would need to turn randomly and at different speeds, with the odd random flick around towards another enemy for instance. Stuff like that

    • @TheTMNTurtle
      @TheTMNTurtle 2 роки тому +18

      Literally every comment from days and weeks ago mention this.
      But yours from a day ago is gonna do it. Thankyou, Savior.

    • @thesetaintedsouls
      @thesetaintedsouls 2 роки тому +14

      @@TheTMNTurtle nobody asked

    • @Bat3p
      @Bat3p 2 роки тому +7

      Also they spawn in moving towards the player.

    • @yellowpower3755
      @yellowpower3755 2 роки тому +13

      @@thesetaintedsouls I don’t recall needing to ask for permission to comment….

    • @catimmunity8538
      @catimmunity8538 2 роки тому +7

      @@TheTMNTurtle You don’t have to be a sassy ass just because this guy didn’t read the comments like a bible, and actually tried out the game bruh. There’s a lot of other people who complain on the internet so thank you, savior

  • @amvymavy
    @amvymavy 2 роки тому +1011

    Him: "Look how much money this fake multiplayer game make!"
    **while showing an actual real multiplayer .io game**

    • @soabac0835
      @soabac0835 2 роки тому +9

      What real game ? It looked cool I wanna try if it's a real multiplayer game

    • @amvymavy
      @amvymavy 2 роки тому +89

      @@soabac0835 Slither.io has an actual real multiplayer

    • @foxi13x
      @foxi13x 2 роки тому +132

      @@amvymavy so do agar.io
      and krunker.io
      not all .io games have real Multiplayer, but many do

    • @amvymavy
      @amvymavy 2 роки тому +145

      @@foxi13x Yeah. We should blame Vodooo, the game developer who actually makes the majority of these fake multiplayer .io games

    • @runforitman
      @runforitman 2 роки тому +4

      @@amvymavy aren't voodoo just a publisher?

  • @shmurkenhurken
    @shmurkenhurken Рік тому

    I think the few things I'd add are random strafing to the bots and if another bot or the player comes close the can switch targets. Could even check how much damage they've done to the other bot to see if it's worth to rush them down before changing targets or not. Oh and fleeing towards boosts when low health.

  • @SazumeZuric
    @SazumeZuric 6 місяців тому +1

    Suggestion, maybe Make the enemies like Turn slowly or faster depending after Fighting other bot, and like some bots are just Facing other direction and when you are in a certain distance they will face you.

  • @thesadlonelydemon262
    @thesadlonelydemon262 3 роки тому +242

    If you could figure out how to make it the playable on mobile phones, I'm sure it will get more downloads. It would be a better way to get more people to download it

  • @veggiet2009
    @veggiet2009 2 роки тому +166

    Would suggest 3 things:
    1. all enemies need to go after the health drops at some point, maybe it needs a radius but that radius needs to be a conceivable screen size.
    2. Normal enemies should randomly switch to the hostile enemy type when in range of other enemies, The random chance should be proportional to how close the enemies are together.
    3. There should be a small chance of a n00b player becoming either a hostile enemy or a normal enemy at any time, and an even smaller chance that a normal enemy will freeze, become a n00b or disappear with the words "disconnected" over head...
    I think these would take the believability of the game to over 9000.

    • @limonlimon9134
      @limonlimon9134 2 роки тому +3

      The trickster

    • @TehFloridaMapper
      @TehFloridaMapper Рік тому +4

      and also they should have a 0.5 to 3 second delay when they spawn because it would look like the "players" are getting ready to fight

    • @gryffendeur
      @gryffendeur 3 місяці тому

      4. adding an AI that disconnect midfight when low lol

  • @eamonia
    @eamonia Рік тому

    Some videos I just 'like' before I even watch them. Case in point.

  • @Baconator96
    @Baconator96 Рік тому

    My immediate thought when you first started describing the initial fighting game concept was "even this already seems too good to be an .io game"

  • @gamingdan2841
    @gamingdan2841 2 роки тому +79

    There is always these players in ever game: The Teamers
    They will run around the map, close together, and if one get below half health they will run away and their friend will battle you. If they both get below half health, they will attempt to run away, however they are very scared and doesn’t go in a straight line (which means you’ll be able to catch up to them.)

    • @NotaPlagueDoctor300
      @NotaPlagueDoctor300 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah dont forget they have the same color and almost the same username

  • @eventlesssauce9748
    @eventlesssauce9748 2 роки тому +197

    I would add a health bar above or by the enemy's name. In my opinion, it would be a lot more fun to pick up a defeated enemy weapon instead of buying them. New spawn players would scramble to find a weapon on the ground quickly, be faced to outsmart a wielding enemy, or take advantage of a low health enemy.

  • @CallmeGrim9226
    @CallmeGrim9226 2 роки тому

    Just subbed!

  • @super_cy1016
    @super_cy1016 2 роки тому

    I think Guy in Orange Gi is a very neat addition to the game. He really adds the story of the game, and i think the red stick he holds is very key to the lore. Him being faster is also a key lore element, explaining the reason he- wait I can't say it yet. Guy in Orange Gi is a very interesting character, with his orange gi, that helps him differentiate from the other characters.

  • @nanopi
    @nanopi 2 роки тому +70

    A couple things to consider when making fake multiplayer:
    Movement: It would be more realistic if the AI movement had the same 8 directions and acceleration/velocity as the player.
    Aim: It would be more realistic if the AI had to move their aim the same way a player would.

    • @oz459
      @oz459 2 роки тому +15

      His programming was all over the place. He made extra effort by making bots being able to distinguish between bots and the player. For what reason? They shouldn’t be able to tell a difference

    • @dehydrateddarkness3565
      @dehydrateddarkness3565 2 роки тому +2

      @@oz459 You have a point tbh

    • @RubberTag
      @RubberTag 2 роки тому

      And more %RAND%!

  • @Flamsleburger
    @Flamsleburger 3 роки тому +260

    "So that no more than like two people spawn with the same username." 12:01

  • @hifive789
    @hifive789 Рік тому +1

    how he casually says "I accidentily made a first person shooter" and then "oh crap"

  • @WhatTheBleep24
    @WhatTheBleep24 Рік тому +2

    You should make it so if you kill someone with a higher weapon, you get the weapon. Also make it so that the name list picker doesn’t pick a name that has already been picked

  • @kirinnarukami4016
    @kirinnarukami4016 2 роки тому +102

    there should be something put in to make sure that most ais dont perfectly track where you are, since not everyone is gonna be very good at aiming, and almost no one would be perfectly following you move. not sure how that'd be done but it'd help with making it feel like you're playing multiplayer. another thing would be to have enemies space themselves away from other enemies, or if they get too close to another enemy, to quickly attack that enemy before turning back to you or something. again, not sure how easily that could be done. very good so far tho :)))

    • @grunt655
      @grunt655 2 роки тому +3

      Maybe for the "not perfect looking-at-you" movement, maybe delay the "looking mechanism" for some players. There are players with holy shit ton of skill that just keeps aiming at you

    • @kirinnarukami4016
      @kirinnarukami4016 2 роки тому

      @@grunt655 yeah, i was thinking adding a bit of jitter or pausing sometimes to the aim, since even if they can keep track of you it wont be perfectly smooth

    • @GhostGlitch.
      @GhostGlitch. 2 роки тому

      My fist thought is to have a view target which is where they are autolooking now. Add or subtract a random amount from that to account for imprecise aiming, then move their current aim towards that with a limited speed.

  • @marcosdanielamaral5015
    @marcosdanielamaral5015 3 роки тому +33

    3:32 he had the chance to create the lagging player

  • @aaronspencermusic
    @aaronspencermusic 2 роки тому

    The enemies tracking their target perfectly like they're aim locked on is a big giveaway ;)

  • @RainWasProbablyTaken
    @RainWasProbablyTaken 2 роки тому

    I recommend adding so called "rounds" to make the player feel like hes actually trying to do something rather than just sitting and playing this game until he dies

  • @jossefyoucef4977
    @jossefyoucef4977 2 роки тому +21

    2:51 bro i hate when that happens

  • @tgcgtheviewer
    @tgcgtheviewer 2 роки тому +312

    Should make new ai like: (updated edit)
    Teamers: which teams with a random player (player or npc)
    Passive (or scaredy-cat) : avoids fighting and runs away from players
    Annoying players(camper) : just only attacks you and camps in your spawn
    Color gang: up to 3-5 npc which are same color and gangs up on other npc or you (unless the same color)*really dumb*
    Hacker: extra speed extra damage and extra HP with 100% hits and no misses
    Aggressive noob: Charges at you but only has a fist
    Laggy: Teleports, longer range, 50% of getting hit and does 20% more dmg and maybe attacks 2 times per hit
    AFK: free XP
    Grindy player: somehow has like 80% more better items than you
    Op noob: better items but still a noob

    • @themotion0640
      @themotion0640 2 роки тому +24

      What if he also adds bits that sometimes spin like asking for team

    • @alvarhart8629
      @alvarhart8629 2 роки тому

      And some that just instantly rush you

    • @thebestnoob9958
      @thebestnoob9958 2 роки тому +10

      that will be a hella lot more realistic it they added these types of ai

    • @Houtblokje
      @Houtblokje 2 роки тому +10

      Hacker: someone with impossible movements that teleports behind you and stuff. Just to make it realistic

    • @thebestnoob9958
      @thebestnoob9958 2 роки тому +7

      @@Houtblokje but make it very rare so there seems like a anit-cheat

  • @Legendary_Fard1247
    @Legendary_Fard1247 3 місяці тому

    Amazing the title of this video describes almost every .io game

  • @conor8075
    @conor8075 Рік тому

    I love dragon ba... I mean orange gi z so you adding orange gi man is really cool

  • @sirshrub9074
    @sirshrub9074 2 роки тому +28

    Add a coward enemy that just runs around and avoids fights

  • @coopeachu
    @coopeachu 3 роки тому +15

    It’s so funny that I completely forgot at one point this game wasn’t multiplayer and I was about to comment about how starting weapons and the secret goku aren’t fair to the other players, LOL

  • @kyle4854
    @kyle4854 Рік тому

    None of the ones I used to play had fake multiplayer. They usually have a chat, and you always had to deal with players that teamed in solo gametypes.

  • @Jarrod0067
    @Jarrod0067 Рік тому

    Congrats! You recreated the cell stage from Spore

  • @nathanialchavez3647
    @nathanialchavez3647 3 роки тому +572

    Looks great, you should make one of the stronger bots be guy in orange gi, and have another secret character be vageta or something.......maybe king Kai or oolong

  • @katrinashiningavamwe9208
    @katrinashiningavamwe9208 3 роки тому +65

    keep growing brother

  • @realangelo
    @realangelo 2 роки тому

    I would 100% enjoy this.

  • @metallicbunny9595
    @metallicbunny9595 Рік тому

    A fake multiplayer would be a great bait and switch for a horror game since it's the last place you'd expect it

  • @TheTechAdmin
    @TheTechAdmin 2 роки тому +11

    6:05 When you walk into a lobby and everyone is facing you; NORMAL

  • @TheTwistedKris
    @TheTwistedKris 2 роки тому +83

    Bit late to this but wanted to add my 2 cents. The enemies should have simulated "mouse drift" and shouldn't always be facing the player. They track far too well. Way to pull the the curtain back, send my regards to Oz.

  • @sunrise2234
    @sunrise2234 Рік тому

    You should add a thing that says the usernames as they joined like "jimmydog joined the game" and also messages saying when an enemy defeats another enemy, you also should add the kills=wepons upgrade to the ai's and a fake worldwide leaderboard you can view in the menu

  • @redhawk6518
    @redhawk6518 Рік тому +1

    Some io games have a chat where you talk to actual people in the game that are playing it with you.

  • @lazergamer9526
    @lazergamer9526 2 роки тому +19

    Could make it so other "players" fight each other if they are close enough to one another, just to be more belivable

  • @evannibbe9375
    @evannibbe9375 2 роки тому +17

    There should always be a high probability that any given player or bot is fighting multiple enemies at once

  • @ashketchup2384
    @ashketchup2384 Рік тому +1

    I think you need add stuff like biomes/backgrounds you know.. Stuff like lakes, rivers, plains, snow and things like this. I think that's a good idea.

  • @Nephalen
    @Nephalen Рік тому

    The fact that the enemies constantly face you are a dead giveaway.

  • @cerberusslavomiraarus1308
    @cerberusslavomiraarus1308 2 роки тому +17

    3:00 well, about that...

  • @cookiecakeeater6340
    @cookiecakeeater6340 3 роки тому +1581

    Just see if the game has chat, if it does, you know it’s multiplayer
    Edit: read replies before replying
    Edit 2: since some people won’t read the replies like I ask them to IN THE COMMENT I’m going to put it here that bots can use chat, but they can’t have realistic back-and-forth conversations with a player that don’t break.

    • @SilverKnightGoAnimate
      @SilverKnightGoAnimate 3 роки тому +95

      Agar.io is multiplayer yet doesn't have chat

    • @SilverKnightGoAnimate
      @SilverKnightGoAnimate 3 роки тому +76

      And so does slither.io, diep.io, and a lot more that I forgot about

    • @cookiecakeeater6340
      @cookiecakeeater6340 3 роки тому +231

      @@SilverKnightGoAnimate yes, but if it does you know it’s multiplayer

    • @EchoSaintEco
      @EchoSaintEco 3 роки тому +10

      shellshockers

    • @aludis
      @aludis 3 роки тому +48

      Goat Simulator MMO

  • @sydr570
    @sydr570 2 роки тому

    Your username list need variants with capitals. Maybe a function to randomly decide whether a name has capitals anywhere? Like 50% chance to have a capital, then another 50% chance it’s the first letter, 20% it’s all caps, etc

  • @rycefredriksen2060
    @rycefredriksen2060 6 місяців тому +2

    Please add teamers and Npcs that are using GIOG (guy in orange gi), because it wouldn't make sense if you only can be him, and the teamers npcs spawn together and as you guess it, they fight together, and make the noob actually fight but they will most likely lose

  • @Yui_187
    @Yui_187 2 роки тому +28

    A nice addition would be being able to pick up dead enemy's weapons so theres an incentive to team up against those katanas (if it was in real multiplayer) or just being rewarded by hard to kill bots

  • @codingdoggo7100
    @codingdoggo7100 2 роки тому +66

    BadGameDev: enemies with katanas are extremely rare
    me: boots game, first found bot has a katana
    BRUH

    • @snail9552
      @snail9552 2 роки тому +2

      You’re just lucky

    • @mystiqal2205
      @mystiqal2205 2 роки тому +1

      Oh God a furry

    • @danieltheprotogen
      @danieltheprotogen 2 роки тому +1

      @@snail9552 oh Jesus it’s a furry. Im calling the UA-cam moderators

    • @snail9552
      @snail9552 2 роки тому

      @@danieltheprotogen I’m confused

    • @danieltheprotogen
      @danieltheprotogen 2 роки тому +1

      @@CoroFNF wait sir, I am the anti furry police, I’m undercover so I can kill them easier!

  • @ddable.
    @ddable. 4 місяці тому

    A sorta good way to detect if a game has fake multiplayer is to name yourself a slur, if it lets you: it's fake.

  • @DizzyTrendermen
    @DizzyTrendermen Рік тому

    I think the enemies need to be bound to set Cardinal directions for movement like the player for more believability. As they are now it’s super obvious to tell by movement alone

  • @TheShadesOfBlack
    @TheShadesOfBlack 2 роки тому +37

    Id like to see some AI improvements. Them being able to rotate would go a huge way in making them more believable.

  • @Henrix1998
    @Henrix1998 2 роки тому +7

    The fact that the enemies dont attack each other makes this very unbelievable

  • @kabukiman2153
    @kabukiman2153 Рік тому

    Man, this reminds me so much of Stick Arena Ballistick. So many good times with that game, and all the Xgen games.

  • @ompatil7613
    @ompatil7613 4 місяці тому

    There are a few thing which can be chnaged.
    - bots should fight amongst themselves
    - bots shouldn't look at the player perfectly
    - non static leaderboard

  • @friedbird5224
    @friedbird5224 2 роки тому +9

    "I accidentally made minecraft from scratch" is the best line ever

  • @notgandelf4595
    @notgandelf4595 2 роки тому +31

    bots should have the possibility of becoming hostile when close to each other, enemies with higher weapons should be worth more KOs (ramp up # of KOs needed for latter upgrades when you do so), have noobs sometimes 'return to the game'

  • @ProbablyEzra
    @ProbablyEzra 2 роки тому

    I think the easiest way to generate a list of fake usernames to use for a fake multiplayer would be to just collect the names from people who play it, then add them to the list until it's big enough

  • @WeirdDude-on9lz
    @WeirdDude-on9lz Рік тому

    I'd recommended add a delay to the bots turning and over/under turning to make it seem more human

  • @demi_demon
    @demi_demon 2 роки тому +14

    This reminded me of the time in 4th grade me and one of my friends had computer class together and decided to test the fake multiplayer. After a few tries logging on one after the other, we found two things: One, that there are about 3 set servers at any time/place, as we saw 2-4 different leaderboards pop up (which was how we figured out if we were playing on the same server). 2, that because of the leaderboard thing, we could see that there were a good number of fake players, BUT as me and my friend were able to meet in a corner of the map and play the game together, some players must also be real.
    It's kinda like taking a really shitty-functioning product and making it look amazing so more people buy it.