I remember my father telling me about an old Plymouth flat head he saw with a crack that went from an exhaust seat across the deck and all the way down the cylinder. They fixed it with Sodium Silicate, or water glass. He said that because the cylinder pressures never got that high (like an H Farmall), it worked fine, and they never had any more trouble.
The positive side is that you are going to get an awesome paint job out of this. And won't have that pesky pinned head in the back of your mind wondering when it's going to fail. I am sure it will will work out and be fun to watch to boot! Keep up the great work!
This is just an example of why I prefer to replace damaged castings instead of trying to repair it. The M that we had when I was growing up had frozen and heaved a chunk of the casting out of the top of the head. My father took the head to a machine shop that nickel welded it back together. When it came time to rebuild the engine we had to have it welded again. When I took it apart about 10 years later, the same piece popped out again. We ended up replacing the head at that time because the welder who looked at it said that he couldn't understand why it was repaired the first time. He said that the old weld had old cracks that looked like they were seeping for a long time. It was just amazing that it didn't pop out and dump a lot of coolant in the oil.
Quick paint job he said. It'll be easy he said!! Lol!! Might as well bore it out, get some pop up pistons, and a turbo while you are there!! Then you can pull a 3 bottom and leave the rear wheels dished out like God intended them to be!!!😂
Maybe it is time to start building a machine shop, Toby. If nobody goes into it, there won't be anybody doing it. You might see if Dave Richards at the Old Steam Powered Machine Shop can help. He did Pete's tractor over at Just a Few Acres Farm. Of course, he is local to Pete and you would have shipping, but you would also know it would be done right.
The joys of working on old machinery. I have found that nearly every time I work on old gear it needs more than expected. Keep up the good work and videos.
This is like when I opened the rear end on the H.... I found that brazing, and the 1/16" deep groove worn into the bottom of the case by the bull gear... And then the cracking from the brazing.... That's when I knew..... This was going to be rough. Ha ha! Keep your head up, bud. The good thing is... It's a simple H!
I have a Massey Harris 44 that put ant-freeze in the pan about 20 years. I only found it with out runnng it because i pulled the stick before i started it after sitting for sometime and it was over full. I took the easy fix route and put irontite in it.
By your calm demeanor, I can see that you have walked a similar path before. As you must surely know, it's better to catch this trouble now. Conversely, I have a buddy whose uncle wants to GIVE him (no strings attached) what is probably an early 70's Olds Cutlass convertible (not a 442) in 'farm fresh' condition. He is avoiding taking even the first step of laying claim to it. He's definitely at the opposite end of the spectrum. On the other hand, I am working through all the minor problems of a freebie vintage tractor because it will be a fine replacement for my vintage forklift. As they say, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, apparently SOME of us do!
Bit of a bummer Toby. It never fails on old machinery, one job leads to another and yet another. I started off replacing a set of valve seats on my (dads) old '42 International W6 to enable it to run on pure petrol (gas). Removing the head has seen me discover I need another carburettor, manifold (petrol/TVO), piston rings, small end bushes, big end bearing and an oil pick up screen. Not to mention a full gasket & seal kit🥴🥴 For me, it is a labour of love as my dad would never sell it, even after it had landed upside down on top of him in 1952 nearly taking his life. He always said "It wasn't the tractors fault!!
I had a chevy 292 short block done for me a few years back that until magnafluxing I had absolutely no idea it was cracked. I had another engine that I could have used once I pulled it out of a parts truck but I let my machinist talk me into welding up my original block. He told me it was a easy fix and id never have a problem. Well long story short about a year later its a problem. Started with just leaking a little coolant externally but now it pushes oil into the coolant. Its a real shame as it runs great but now i need to do another complete rebuild. Funny how the shortcuts come back to bite you.
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Thanks for the update your doing great remaining calm & collective. We are in it for the long haul with you. I bought a borescope attachment for my smartphone that I’m quite impressed with it for the low cost.
I had a piston break from a water leak into the chamber under load. Evidently it turns to stem and doesn’t compress. I understand that happens on old Continentals sometimes when they have sat for an extended period and then when they are put in service the head gasket lets go. Real bad noises then a complete overhaul. At least you didn’t have an unscheduled rapid automatic engine disassembly in front of the grandstand !
I am sorry you have to take all of this apart, but I am really happy to see the insides of this engine! Makes this video series even more interesting and gives you peace of mind :)
LOL... So called it when first talk about "refresh" that this would end up being a complete teardown! Might be more work, but also makes great content! Yay!
I just love watching you tear these engines down. Be interesting to see if its the head. Will you just clean existing internals up, or buy new? Regardless you rock!
at least you know about the problems before they caused more damage. we had an H that I put a lot of time on, mowing, raking and hauling hay. best tractor made.
At least it wasn't in the block from a freeze out .a friend in Petaluma did the same thing with a set of 202 Chevy heads. The Crack grew and the antifreeze was in the pan .will a head from a formall tractor fit . I have never worked in a farm all tractor.
I would never catched that pin hole, I'd rather assume that the water in the oil and the rust in No4 would be caused from condensation....wow! Bad news... Thx for showing! 👍👍👍
Well,... even if the new head takes a while to acquire, if you find no 'other' problems with the short block, you can do everything else you had intended to do. All the sheet metal work can be done, all the cleaning and painting, the front end can be fixed, a more or less full re-assembly can be done. Everything but the head. So the problem with the head can keep you from having a running tractor for an extended period, but it can't prevent you from doing everything else. Looking forward to seeing it.
Outstanding video Sir! You are one of the best mechanics I have ever watched. I know you were disappointed finding the leaking water in cylinder 4, but to see you tear everything down further than you planned was great for me to watch and learn. I have really been following this project and can't wait for the next episode. Also, I love the way you film the important parts and explain why you are doing it. Your videos flow so smoothly! Jeff
I would be reluctant to have the head repaired again (as much as I might wish to have it repaired again); the amount of careful work to remove, examine, & reinstall the head that a repair would risk would not seem worth it. A good salvage head for reconditioning might be the best option.
Never saw stitching in the casting. The old skilled machine shops were amazing. Hopefully, the AF did damage the bearing surfaces. Have a good one! Thanks for the updates
🤗 while you were away I have been reviewing gas and diesel engines made to run upside down that's right DB 600 series Henkel Engines intake manifold under the engine an oil pan on top made exclusively to run like that 😮
Well Toby that’s very unexpected. Definitely wasn’t expecting to see Preparation H taken the engine apart to fix as well. Maybe that’s Christine working her magic saying she wants to be completed lol! Hopefully you won’t have to look for a new cylinder head for it as well or is it even fixable? On the bright side at least you found it now and can address the issue before you spent all the time putting new seals and repaint everything. Thanks for the update and can’t wait for the next video!
Remember few episodes back I said something about the clutch. Mechanics ESP kicked in HAHA................. I'm dealing with EGR cooler dumping coolant and used 3 gals in 83 miles right now. He's freaking out engine ruined and said oil level over full mark and oil milky. Oil level not over full mark and oil looks like oil nice and black like all EGR Cummins engines. Of course, brings up engine from 10 years ago. Owner drove truck for 3 weeks with bad EGR cooler. I get truck and get just to the bay door and engine stopped. Cummins ISX 15 Engine shallowed big gulp of coolant, intake and EGR system completely full. Owner was pissed at me and I didn't get to overhaul it either. Found it bent 4 rods out of the 6
I'm sorry to learn you have a water leak in that engine you are so sentimentally attached to, but boy am I happy to know now you’ll have to fully dissect it! Thanks for the great content as always.
If access isn’t a problem I wouldn’t be worried about welding up the crack. Cast iron welding isn’t nearly as bad as some say I do it quite regularly with no failure. And I normally work on heavy equipment in high stress situations.
You’re taking the “bad” head quite well. I’m putting a Super MTA engine back together and will be watching your tricks of trade. I’ve already returned to the Super M videos that you and Sr. have done for reference. 👍👍
Imagine if you didn’t drain the oil until you had it all back together so at least it happened at an opportune time but having said that, that happened to my crane engine so I know that gut punch feeling nobody wants to buy a crane that can’t move and needs to be resealed at the very least! Hopefully you can find a head that is in good shape!😀🇨🇦
I picked up a HF borescope. Not the greatest, but OK for peaking into cylinders. The Prep-H is turning onto son of D2 with the full-on rebuild. Bummer. Let us know how the 12-step process goes at the H group of unintended rebuilds meeting....smile. Looking forward to the rebuild as always.
@Squatch253 If it weren't for the 6.0, I wouldn't have been able to afford the down payment on my first house. Back then, I was flat-rate at a mom and pop shop, but the local Ford dealer brought most of the diesels to us. I guess they thought it better to sub the work than to pay well enough to keep a good diesel tech on staff. Oh well, it was good work!
At my first wrenching job, we did a lot of 6.0's. I remember when Bulletproof first came into being- we were one of the first shops to install their then-pre-production Bulletproof Oil Cooler. That one sucked. Gave them feedback, including that we thought a thermostatic bypass would be wise. The next one they had us trial install had better hose routing and sizing, better cooler mounting.... Anyway, by the time I left there we were doing a Bulletproof build weekly. H11 studs, Air dog for fuel, and back then Swamps was the source for the beefed up FICM's. Usually the oilfield trucks would get the "full Bulletproof" and an "improved stock" tune. Really improved their reliability. Make them a real joy to drive. No coal-rolling nonsense, just good response with good power and good economy. Now, the bosses son bought one and went nuts... bigger turbo and injectors, different HPOP.... Went like a bat out of hell, in between failures haha
Excellent video you may be able to buy a reconditioned cylinder head from all states ag parts or abilene machine if you can't find a machine shop to recondition and good used cylinder head check the cam shaft and cam shaft bearings antifreeze in the oil wears them out fast
Don’t get depressed! It’s just the nature of old Iron. You will never have everything done and perfect, I’ve been trying for over 30 years. You roll with punches and go on to the next project.
You know I'm so pleased you too clean things before you take them apart. It drives me nuts watching other UA-camrs pulling tractors apart - especially garden tractors - without cleaning them first. They still have a few things to learn I reckon. 🙂 Positive note here, you prevented a potentially much more expensive repair by digging into H's heart. I know too, of course, you're glad you did.
I keep track of push rods too but its so that when i check them for straightness if i have a bent one i know what hole it came out of so i can check for other issues in that area .
Yeah, as you said, not something you paint on. For me, the plug and see through messiness on the cylinder wall would've been enough after finding coolant in the oil. I've had my fair share of old engines that were dynamited because their owners had ignored stuff like this. A few of them were expensive disappointments, so now, i just do it, because it's better to do it even if it's a minor leak (and in this case, going by your description of the events, it seems to be a small leak). Hey, look on the bright side, when you're done, this H will be in tip-top condition on top of having a good paint job that you won't have to take off any time soon. What more can an owner ask?
Wonder how many times i been there when " just going to " takes a hike and "restauration " enters the chat. Keep up the good mood and the videos comming.
Thanks for the update Squatch. It's a real shame that you need to go this far now. But it's much better than chewing up crank barings. And the end result now is this tractor will be mechanically new like Seniors. Cheers
Push rod dont matter what hole they go has long as valve lash is right, flat tappet lifters are the only thing that wears in a way that it matters, so they need to go back to the same cam lobe it came off of
Comeback! 😆- Sorry Squatch, just couldn't resist. Your work is and has always been top shelf. Relying on the machine shop's work and assurance of a successful repair has came back and bit you in the back end.
@@squatch253 Yes, you are correct - and maybe the shop has revised and improved or changed their methods of dealing with these type of internal coolant leaks. In any case, it could have bought a hard working farmer a couple of more seasons of income before head replacement became mandatory. Cheers!
@@parochial2356 Actually there is a product called irontite that I have used to fix coolant leaks like this. It is ceramic sealer that coats the inside of the coolant system. It will go into a crack or pourosity and then when you drain the water you let it sit and it air cures to be a permanent ceramic plug. Pretty much works like glyptal paint sealing a casting but with better thermal properties. I would say as minimal a leak as this appears to be it likely would have fixed it for at least another 20-30 years. Finding a better head though is a better option should be plenty around I would think as common as these old farmalls are.
Dang it !!!! Oh well, good thing you caught it when you did !!! Could have went very bad very fast. I was under the impression pinning cracks was a more permanent repair. One thing for sure ….. It never gets boring !!
from all the bad it is better to finf it now than after tractor had been repainted and assembled good luck in bad luck someone up there in tractor heaven is looking after this one and made you check before it was too late
Best to find the dead head now, rather than have it go belly up after the tractor is back together and painted. Kind of a blessing in disguise, although Preparation H for a name is kind of prophetic at this point…….
"No Plan survives First Contact with the Enemy." 10:11 looking at the head in the vid, upper right corner, there's an odd round stain that shows up, with a corresponding mark on the block top. Is that supposed to be there? 10:18 its in dead center of screen. Seem to breach from combustion chamber all the way to the head mating surface. If ya cant find a head, maybe borrow a page from Bork and drop a Hemi in it? ;)
Squatch I wonder if JAMSI automotive machine shop could help you out on the machine work for your head (assuming you find one). Sorry for the bad luck, but at least you discovered it now versus after the preparation h project was completed and you were ready to start using it.
Famous last words are, "This will be a simple or straightforward job!" Bites me in the butt if I even think of any of those words. Fortunately, over a million or so of those heads were made. Shouldn't be too difficult to find a replacement if you're not watching date codes and casting #'s.
Well I would get it stripped down, even though the cross hatch is mostly still visible, rehone if the bores measure out ok. I would definitely change the bearings, as you have no idea when the leak started and how long it ran that way. I know that my local Auto Value(?) along with the rest in the arrowhead send theirs to the Duluth store and it comes back in a week or two. Workmanship I do not know.
I maybe little late with some info for you not know the name but there is a place in Chicago area that does fix heads. Also you may try AlState ag tractor parts they might
So how is Christine looking right about now? Asking for a friend…. I’ve actually been chuckling. I’m working on an old Singer sewing machine and the might as well bug just struck. I’m feeling your pain.
Did they use Irontite when they pinned it? That's what I used in 1973 - 1976 when I was pinning cracks in dad's machine shop... still haven't heard of one leaking again! Not even the Chevy 235's I spent DAYS pinning. BTW, how bad can your condition be, without having to be alphabetically correct - CDO. LOL!
No point in fixing one problem. Do it all and have the satisfaction for a job well done. Attention to detail as always. I always keep stuff in the order they came apart. (push rods) I don't know why. I just think it is the right thing to do. I don't think it's a step backwards. If anything it will be giant step forward. It will be fun to watch. Just love to watch a tractor in your hands become new again. Love them Farmall's. Thanks again for sharing.
"Preparation H" is a good name for this project. It's becoming a hemorrhoid, to a certain extent. The content you produce is top notch! Thanks.
5:45 LOL, you've seen a D2 before, have ya Squatch 253....? I passed coffee out my nose, and spot-on roast of Kyle Crist...! Bazinga.!
😂😂😂 love it! I thought the same thing!
Same here. Too funny!
But has he seen a D5?
I remember my father telling me about an old Plymouth flat head he saw with a crack that went from an exhaust seat across the deck and all the way down the cylinder. They fixed it with Sodium Silicate, or water glass. He said that because the cylinder pressures never got that high (like an H Farmall), it worked fine, and they never had any more trouble.
The positive side is that you are going to get an awesome paint job out of this. And won't have that pesky pinned head in the back of your mind wondering when it's going to fail. I am sure it will will work out and be fun to watch to boot! Keep up the great work!
This is just an example of why I prefer to replace damaged castings instead of trying to repair it. The M that we had when I was growing up had frozen and heaved a chunk of the casting out of the top of the head. My father took the head to a machine shop that nickel welded it back together. When it came time to rebuild the engine we had to have it welded again. When I took it apart about 10 years later, the same piece popped out again. We ended up replacing the head at that time because the welder who looked at it said that he couldn't understand why it was repaired the first time. He said that the old weld had old cracks that looked like they were seeping for a long time. It was just amazing that it didn't pop out and dump a lot of coolant in the oil.
Quick paint job he said. It'll be easy he said!! Lol!! Might as well bore it out, get some pop up pistons, and a turbo while you are there!! Then you can pull a 3 bottom and leave the rear wheels dished out like God intended them to be!!!😂
@Jambo it's called hyperbole
Good work Squatch253, l’ll be watching. Preparation H is like what we have in Australia called Anusol, both a pain in the butt.
Maybe it is time to start building a machine shop, Toby. If nobody goes into it, there won't be anybody doing it. You might see if Dave Richards at the Old Steam Powered Machine Shop can help. He did Pete's tractor over at Just a Few Acres Farm. Of course, he is local to Pete and you would have shipping, but you would also know it would be done right.
The joys of working on old machinery. I have found that nearly every time I work on old gear it needs more than expected. Keep up the good work and videos.
You just saved yourself some money by finding it now. The way you conduct yourself is top shelf. You hit it out of the park with every episode.
This is like when I opened the rear end on the H.... I found that brazing, and the 1/16" deep groove worn into the bottom of the case by the bull gear... And then the cracking from the brazing.... That's when I knew..... This was going to be rough. Ha ha! Keep your head up, bud. The good thing is... It's a simple H!
Oh boy, this ol tractor is becoming the Ship of Theseus!
I have a Massey Harris 44 that put ant-freeze in the pan about 20 years. I only found it with out runnng it because i pulled the stick before i started it after sitting for sometime and it was over full. I took the easy fix route and put irontite in it.
Selfishly.....your pain is our gain. Cheers mate!
"Not going to take the clitch off". Unfortunately, famous last words. Ya jinxed it!
By your calm demeanor, I can see that you have walked a similar path before. As you must surely know, it's better to catch this trouble now. Conversely, I have a buddy whose uncle wants to GIVE him (no strings attached) what is probably an early 70's Olds Cutlass convertible (not a 442) in 'farm fresh' condition. He is avoiding taking even the first step of laying claim to it. He's definitely at the opposite end of the spectrum. On the other hand, I am working through all the minor problems of a freebie vintage tractor because it will be a fine replacement for my vintage forklift. As they say, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, apparently SOME of us do!
The “might as well bug” struck again, looking forward to seeing how far it goes
Bit of a bummer Toby.
It never fails on old machinery, one job leads to another and yet another.
I started off replacing a set of valve seats on my (dads) old '42 International W6 to enable it to run on pure petrol (gas).
Removing the head has seen me discover I need another carburettor, manifold (petrol/TVO), piston rings, small end bushes, big end bearing and an oil pick up screen.
Not to mention a full gasket & seal kit🥴🥴
For me, it is a labour of love as my dad would never sell it, even after it had landed upside down on top of him in 1952 nearly taking his life.
He always said "It wasn't the tractors fault!!
Bonus content to see the front half come apart! ❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊
I had a chevy 292 short block done for me a few years back that until magnafluxing I had absolutely no idea it was cracked. I had another engine that I could have used once I pulled it out of a parts truck but I let my machinist talk me into welding up my original block. He told me it was a easy fix and id never have a problem. Well long story short about a year later its a problem. Started with just leaking a little coolant externally but now it pushes oil into the coolant. Its a real shame as it runs great but now i need to do another complete rebuild. Funny how the shortcuts come back to bite you.
You should hot rod that motor.. port polish, cam, bump the compression up and send it.. H is for hot rod you know.....
Another great video!
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Was half expecting the Squatch in the chair with jacket over the face "we'll be right back" bit.
I have a kerosine head that was redone maybe 100 hours ago but I’m about 15 hours away so probably not any help good luck on the head hunt
Thanks for the update your doing great remaining calm & collective. We are in it for the long haul with you. I bought a borescope attachment for my smartphone that I’m quite impressed with it for the low cost.
Whoever bet that he would find and excuse to tear into the engine wins!
fooey...at least we get to see much more content!
Keep em coming!!!!
I had a piston break from a water leak into the chamber under load. Evidently it turns to stem and doesn’t compress. I understand that happens on old Continentals sometimes when they have sat for an extended period and then when they are put in service the head gasket lets go. Real bad noises then a complete overhaul. At least you didn’t have an unscheduled rapid automatic engine disassembly in front of the grandstand !
I love the head gaskets with the copper rings around the passage holes. The newer aftermarket ones without that have not been good to me.
If you were in the Park Rapids area any time soon....I would tell ya to swing by the hobby farm here and pull the head off of my parts machine.
I am sorry you have to take all of this apart, but I am really happy to see the insides of this engine! Makes this video series even more interesting and gives you peace of mind :)
LOL... So called it when first talk about "refresh" that this would end up being a complete teardown! Might be more work, but also makes great content! Yay!
I just love watching you tear these engines down.
Be interesting to see if its the head.
Will you just clean existing internals up, or buy new?
Regardless you rock!
Good luck with the Rebuild
Hopefully lesson learned love the channel keep up the grest content sorry to be so difficult just disappointed!
You got the elusive Kyle Christ good with the x231 hat in the tool box on the D5!!! Hahahaha
at least you know about the problems before they caused more damage. we had an H that I put a lot of time on, mowing, raking and hauling hay. best tractor made.
At least it wasn't in the block from a freeze out .a friend in Petaluma did the same thing with a set of 202 Chevy heads. The Crack grew and the antifreeze was in the pan .will a head from a formall tractor fit . I have never worked in a farm all tractor.
I. Ment a farmall m fit on an h tractor? Denis
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I would never catched that pin hole, I'd rather assume that the water in the oil and the rust in No4 would be caused from condensation....wow!
Bad news...
Thx for showing!
👍👍👍
you should get in touch with JAMSI, far far away, but surely interested in somewhat older tractors....
Well,... even if the new head takes a while to acquire, if you find no 'other' problems with the short block, you can do everything else you had intended to do. All the sheet metal work can be done, all the cleaning and painting, the front end can be fixed, a more or less full re-assembly can be done. Everything but the head. So the problem with the head can keep you from having a running tractor for an extended period, but it can't prevent you from doing everything else. Looking forward to seeing it.
Outstanding video Sir! You are one of the best mechanics I have ever watched. I know you were disappointed finding the leaking water in cylinder 4, but to see you tear everything down further than you planned was great for me to watch and learn. I have really been following this project and can't wait for the next episode. Also, I love the way you film the important parts and explain why you are doing it. Your videos flow so smoothly! Jeff
You will be happy you tackled it. 😊
I would be reluctant to have the head repaired again (as much as I might wish to have it repaired again); the amount of careful work to remove, examine, & reinstall the head that a repair would risk would not seem worth it. A good salvage head for reconditioning might be the best option.
Another great video. Unexpected extra work 🙈. Enjoyed watching
Never saw stitching in the casting. The old skilled machine shops were amazing. Hopefully, the AF did damage the bearing surfaces.
Have a good one!
Thanks for the updates
🤗 while you were away I have been reviewing gas and diesel engines made to run upside down that's right DB 600 series Henkel
Engines intake manifold under the engine an oil pan on top made exclusively to run like that 😮
Preparation H is living up to it's name. It's being a burning pain in the sphincter. I'm glad you found the problem.
It could be worse. The story goes that Johnny Cash wrote Ring of Fire after he reached for the Preparation H and grabbed the Ben Gay instead.
I do the same thing when it comes to push rods...even head bolts.
Crusty bolts where it's "clean" & clean where everything else around is crusty as well.
Life is a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' novel... you just opened a new chapter.
Well Toby that’s very unexpected. Definitely wasn’t expecting to see Preparation H taken the engine apart to fix as well. Maybe that’s Christine working her magic saying she wants to be completed lol! Hopefully you won’t have to look for a new cylinder head for it as well or is it even fixable? On the bright side at least you found it now and can address the issue before you spent all the time putting new seals and repaint everything. Thanks for the update and can’t wait for the next video!
Going to have to replace the Moline sign on the bench to a Farmall
Yeah and ditch the CAT hat! Lol
That’s bad news about the H, the good news is its good UA-cam content. Maybe you’ll get some good viewing numbers out of this!
Remember few episodes back I said something about the clutch. Mechanics ESP kicked in HAHA................. I'm dealing with EGR cooler dumping coolant and used 3 gals in 83 miles right now. He's freaking out engine ruined and said oil level over full mark and oil milky. Oil level not over full mark and oil looks like oil nice and black like all EGR Cummins engines. Of course, brings up engine from 10 years ago. Owner drove truck for 3 weeks with bad EGR cooler. I get truck and get just to the bay door and engine stopped. Cummins ISX 15 Engine shallowed big gulp of coolant, intake and EGR system completely full. Owner was pissed at me and I didn't get to overhaul it either. Found it bent 4 rods out of the 6
Better to find it now while it is apart. Good used head and you will be back in business
Well dang the luck. Better you fond it now . Than working in the field with it. Since it's all apart now you can really put a paint job on it.
I'm sorry to learn you have a water leak in that engine you are so sentimentally attached to, but boy am I happy to know now you’ll have to fully dissect it! Thanks for the great content as always.
If access isn’t a problem I wouldn’t be worried about welding up the crack. Cast iron welding isn’t nearly as bad as some say I do it quite regularly with no failure. And I normally work on heavy equipment in high stress situations.
wooo hooo we got another series... not trying to put a curse on you but I'm an avid follower...love the projects....
Onward and upward, do it once and do it right , you will sort it , any problems ask senior , thanks for sharing 👍
Love to watch old iron - none of the temporary plastic-stuff 👏👍🇸🇰🇺🇸,build to last and to reuse, country folks dream machine
You’re taking the “bad” head quite well. I’m putting a Super MTA engine back together and will be watching your tricks of trade. I’ve already returned to the Super M videos that you and Sr. have done for reference. 👍👍
Imagine if you didn’t drain the oil until you had it all back together so at least it happened at an opportune time but having said that, that happened to my crane engine so I know that gut punch feeling nobody wants to buy a crane that can’t move and needs to be resealed at the very least!
Hopefully you can find a head that is in good shape!😀🇨🇦
I'll be glad when the prep is finished its painful
I picked up a HF borescope. Not the greatest, but OK for peaking into cylinders. The Prep-H is turning onto son of D2 with the full-on rebuild. Bummer. Let us know how the 12-step process goes at the H group of unintended rebuilds meeting....smile. Looking forward to the rebuild as always.
Toby I have the utmost confidence you will find a suitable replacement ❤
Just remember it could be worse, you could still be wrenching on some spoiled kids 6.0 that he chipped and stretched the head bolts on 😂😂😂
@Squatch253 If it weren't for the 6.0, I wouldn't have been able to afford the down payment on my first house. Back then, I was flat-rate at a mom and pop shop, but the local Ford dealer brought most of the diesels to us. I guess they thought it better to sub the work than to pay well enough to keep a good diesel tech on staff. Oh well, it was good work!
At my first wrenching job, we did a lot of 6.0's. I remember when Bulletproof first came into being- we were one of the first shops to install their then-pre-production Bulletproof Oil Cooler. That one sucked. Gave them feedback, including that we thought a thermostatic bypass would be wise. The next one they had us trial install had better hose routing and sizing, better cooler mounting....
Anyway, by the time I left there we were doing a Bulletproof build weekly. H11 studs, Air dog for fuel, and back then Swamps was the source for the beefed up FICM's.
Usually the oilfield trucks would get the "full Bulletproof" and an "improved stock" tune. Really improved their reliability. Make them a real joy to drive. No coal-rolling nonsense, just good response with good power and good economy.
Now, the bosses son bought one and went nuts... bigger turbo and injectors, different HPOP.... Went like a bat out of hell, in between failures haha
Lmao You got that right 😂
You named this rebuild preparation H. I guess this shouldn’t surprise you. Do you want me to send you a tube? 😢
6.0's are my best friend at work...now, the rash of 6.4's that have been showing up can go somewhere with the IDI engines and all rust in peace.
That's a deep rabbit hole you're going down ...
You know what they , you don't wanna find anything wrong, you best not look.
I must say when you do a job you really do a good job can’t wait to hear the old H run again hope it all works out for you nice video
Excellent video you may be able to buy a reconditioned cylinder head from all states ag parts or abilene machine if you can't find a machine shop to recondition and good used cylinder head check the cam shaft and cam shaft bearings antifreeze in the oil wears them out fast
aww man that really peeves me when your on a time frame and have to redo EVERYTHING like a motor
I’ve never had a tractor repair that didn’t have the rabbit hole repair!
Don’t get depressed! It’s just the nature of old Iron. You will never have everything done and perfect, I’ve been trying for over 30 years. You roll with punches and go on to the next project.
You know I'm so pleased you too clean things before you take them apart. It drives me nuts watching other UA-camrs pulling tractors apart - especially garden tractors - without cleaning them first. They still have a few things to learn I reckon. 🙂 Positive note here, you prevented a potentially much more expensive repair by digging into H's heart. I know too, of course, you're glad you did.
I keep track of push rods too but its so that when i check them for straightness if i have a bent one i know what hole it came out of so i can check for other issues in that area .
Yeah, as you said, not something you paint on. For me, the plug and see through messiness on the cylinder wall would've been enough after finding coolant in the oil. I've had my fair share of old engines that were dynamited because their owners had ignored stuff like this. A few of them were expensive disappointments, so now, i just do it, because it's better to do it even if it's a minor leak (and in this case, going by your description of the events, it seems to be a small leak).
Hey, look on the bright side, when you're done, this H will be in tip-top condition on top of having a good paint job that you won't have to take off any time soon. What more can an owner ask?
Wonder how many times i been there when " just going to " takes a hike and "restauration " enters the chat. Keep up the good mood and the videos comming.
Thanks for the update Squatch. It's a real shame that you need to go this far now. But it's much better than chewing up crank barings. And the end result now is this tractor will be mechanically new like Seniors. Cheers
Push rod dont matter what hole they go has long as valve lash is right, flat tappet lifters are the only thing that wears in a way that it matters, so they need to go back to the same cam lobe it came off of
Everyone's favorite jungle store has multiple styles of endoscope at various price ranges that have their own screen or attach to your phone.
Comeback! 😆-
Sorry Squatch, just couldn't resist. Your work is and has always been top shelf. Relying on the machine shop's work and assurance of a successful repair has came back and bit you in the back end.
@@squatch253 Yes, you are correct - and maybe the shop has revised and improved or changed their methods of dealing with these type of internal coolant leaks. In any case, it could have bought a hard working farmer a couple of more seasons of income before head replacement became mandatory. Cheers!
@@parochial2356 Actually there is a product called irontite that I have used to fix coolant leaks like this. It is ceramic sealer that coats the inside of the coolant system. It will go into a crack or pourosity and then when you drain the water you let it sit and it air cures to be a permanent ceramic plug. Pretty much works like glyptal paint sealing a casting but with better thermal properties. I would say as minimal a leak as this appears to be it likely would have fixed it for at least another 20-30 years. Finding a better head though is a better option should be plenty around I would think as common as these old farmalls are.
I bet a good ceramic sealer could have cured the seep since it wasn't in the combustion chamber.
I purchased an inexpensive board scope that uses my cell phone as the display for like $40. Been a fantastic investment.
Dang it !!!!
Oh well, good thing you caught it when you did !!!
Could have went very bad very fast.
I was under the impression pinning cracks was a more permanent repair.
One thing for sure …..
It never gets boring !!
from all the bad it is better to finf it now than after tractor had been repainted and assembled
good luck in bad luck
someone up there in tractor heaven is looking after this one and made you check before it was too late
Best to find the dead head now, rather than have it go belly up after the tractor is back together and painted. Kind of a blessing in disguise, although Preparation H for a name is kind of prophetic at this point…….
Keeping pushrods in order may not help but it certainly won't hurt. 😎
"No Plan survives First Contact with the Enemy." 10:11 looking at the head in the vid, upper right corner, there's an odd round stain that shows up, with a corresponding mark on the block top. Is that supposed to be there? 10:18 its in dead center of screen. Seem to breach from combustion chamber all the way to the head mating surface.
If ya cant find a head, maybe borrow a page from Bork and drop a Hemi in it? ;)
Squatch I wonder if JAMSI automotive machine shop could help you out on the machine work for your head (assuming you find one). Sorry for the bad luck, but at least you discovered it now versus after the preparation h project was completed and you were ready to start using it.
With the expertise you have shown on the D2 and the MM rebuild im sure this is no more than an inconvenience albeit one you never expected 💪👍
Famous last words are, "This will be a simple or straightforward job!" Bites me in the butt if I even think of any of those words. Fortunately, over a million or so of those heads were made. Shouldn't be too difficult to find a replacement if you're not watching date codes and casting #'s.
As always, excellent & interesting work!
Well I would get it stripped down, even though the cross hatch is mostly still visible, rehone if the bores measure out ok. I would definitely change the bearings, as you have no idea when the leak started and how long it ran that way.
I know that my local Auto Value(?) along with the rest in the arrowhead send theirs to the Duluth store and it comes back in a week or two. Workmanship I do not know.
I maybe little late with some info for you not know the name but there is a place in Chicago area that does fix heads. Also you may try AlState ag tractor parts they might
You can pick up a cheap boroscope these days for some 50 usd. Worth having it around.
So how is Christine looking right about now? Asking for a friend…. I’ve actually been chuckling. I’m working on an old Singer sewing machine and the might as well bug just struck. I’m feeling your pain.
Good content. 👍
Tractor repairs that snowball is such a common occurrence for me at work it's like winter all year long!
Did they use Irontite when they pinned it? That's what I used in 1973 - 1976 when I was pinning cracks in dad's machine shop... still haven't heard of one leaking again! Not even the Chevy 235's I spent DAYS pinning. BTW, how bad can your condition be, without having to be alphabetically correct - CDO. LOL!
@@squatch253 I love the positive take! Being moderately "CDO" (LOL) myself, I appreciate your approach and work ethic! Always enjoy your videos!!
No point in fixing one problem. Do it all and have the satisfaction for a job well done. Attention to detail as always. I always keep stuff in the order they came apart. (push rods) I don't know why. I just think it is the right thing to do. I don't think it's a step backwards. If anything it will be giant step forward. It will be fun to watch. Just love to watch a tractor in your hands become new again. Love them Farmall's. Thanks again for sharing.