Charles is one of the toughest lightweights out there. To take the kind of shots he’s been hit with and still fight back and submit people is so impressive.
The fact UFC admits there is an issue and puts guards on the scale, yet they stripped this man. Absolutely disgusting. If he was a bigger draw you can guarantee Dana wouldn't have let this shit fly.
@chris sanvo after cutting lots of weight and your body goes back to its original state its extremely difficult to shed off any more weight. Im sure he tried. It would not make any sense at all for olives to sacrafice some of his purse as well as championship belt for the sake of one pound
@chris sanvo sure bud they tried everything to get him to lose and he still came back and whooped phoenixs fighter right in front of their eyes. Hes the best in the world
@@tanishazoa138 Dana white blatantly stated the scales where not monitored. The man built a multi billions world wide business, he has never held his tongue in regards to fighters, if they fuck up then fuck them in his eyes, he fucks them under the bus if at fault an moves on, not a ufc issue it's the fighter. He would not openly state it was a staffing issue an new staff will be hired going forward, he's claimed liability, that's a fact. He would not talk ballox and then say security will be hired, then rogan few days later says the scales were messed with and ufc has a new security policy. Common sense use your head.
I LOVE what Joe said about how charles fights even though hes the champion. He doesnt play it safe. It shows a stark contrast between Rose and Charles. Rose fought to keep her belt. But champions supposed to make statements everytime they fight. This is why Charles is a true champion. A champion of champions.
23 out of 28 fighters on that card weighed in .5 pounds over the limit for championship weight. EVEN THE HEAVYWEIGHTS. Blagoi Ivanov weighed 253.5 and Marcos Rogerio de Lima 258.5. I have no idea how anyone isn't talking about this. The biggest rig in UFC history by far.
If it’s not a championship fight then weight in a whole pound over. Ex. Welterweights can weigh in at 171 for non-title fights so 170.5 would be fine for them to weigh in.
@@MiroTheHero7 I don’t think that it’s about it being allowed what I think he’s trying to say is that percentage of fighters were .5 over and usually most fighters are right on to have 23 fighters weighing in .5 over is suspect
@@MiroTheHero7 ofc I could be wrong maybe we haven’t seen the whole picture but that point right there was actually made by another fighter on that card saying it was sus but maybe they do that more than we all think
Joe has such a great way of getting me excited about certain fighters. His descriptions are never cliche and always insightful. I swear no one can get me more excited about fighters than Joe
He was paying respect to mma fighters since he began podcasting ,and he is still doing it right now while he is the Goat of podcasting. He definitely promoted and helped a lot of fighters get that exposure to the public for free (most likely).
Bro, the very first leg kick gaethje threw, Oliveira cracked him with a straight right hand and STUNNED HIM, his legs were wobbled with Oliveiras first punch. Crazy
If that punch didn't land and Justin settled in we are probably looking at a totally different fight. The way Charles pressures and is on his game instantly just overwhelms people.
@@adolpholiverbush5867 I think if he still didn’t land the punch Charleswould’ve put up amazing clinch and Muay Thai skills just like the Poirier fight in the same outcome
It’s not necessarily power but rather precision. Charles will take damage but capitalize on any opening and land flush, kinda reminds me of Featherweight McGregor where the left hand worked wonders as a counter shot.
Oliveira deserves his flowers man. Alot of people still doubting him today. "He doesnt deserve to be the champ cause he missed weight". You guys are so wrong about the sport. He is as elite as it can get. Great champ.
@@forexmagician He gets dropped, and proceeds to rally straight to victory. I do see the concern with that though, your chin only gets worn down more and more, eventually he won't get back up
Charles has become my favorite fighter. The nice personality, venomous fang fight style, still living with his family in the same favela and buying Christmas for all the favela kids. 🥺 💜 🦾💥🤛🏼
Charles is very very humble but he has a nice life today. He doesnt live in favela anymore and has a huge house. Also his family are all good. Everything more than deserved. Good and deserved reward
I wanted Joe to touch on the subject of how well he adjust to his opponents, like he did against chandler on the second round, against Poirier when he started working the clinch more and against Gaethjes leg kicks and finding those openings after the clinch breaks
Man, I don't know if Gaethje was not at his best that fight, or if he is truly not as good as most of us thought. His leg kicks were getting checked multiple times in a row and he didn't do anything about it. He was banking so much on his heavy hands and iron chin.
@@rapisor the problem is, some fighters are faster then him, and thats when gaethje gets over whelmed. his heavy hands and kicks usually slows people down... imo
One thing very few people mention is that the scale was still wobbling when the official reading it proclaimed that Oliveira missed weight. Not as big of a factor maybe as the calibration shenanigans but still a factor.
He can deserve to get stripped and always be the deserving lineal champion. Hopefully he learned to do what most fighters do and bring his own scale with him and weigh himself before bed and when waking.
Oliveira is the best type of prizefighter...he takes damage but comes back and gets the finish...all his fight are exciting and he's not interested in winning by decision
I also wanted Gaethje to win but Charles deserves nothing but complete respect after that last fight, it was a true test of his heart and soul. He is the champ.
@@tanishazoa138 The Arizona Commission do not have multiple scales.....only one present for the weigh-ins. On the night before weigh-in, reports of a problem with the scales prompted them to be changed the following morning. The replacement scales have since been confirmed to be accurate. The point is that the scales used on the night before the weigh-in, were inaccurate & therefore, when Oliveira checked his weight, the reading indicated he was within the limit, but this was inaccurate & as a consequence, Oliveira missed weight on the replacement scales. However, my point is that it should be policy for a 2nd set of scales to be available for the weigh-in, simply to reference in case of disputes. Despite that, i cannot reconcile how anyone could fail to lose 8 ounces in 1 hour......shave your head & body, get an enema, self-catheterise (the bladder is never completely emptied by urinating), cut your nails, swallow salt & sit in the sauna, cut yourself & drain a few drops of blood.....anything it takes.
Charles is GSP level of technical application. Perfect technique EVERYTIME. Now he has that dawg in him it makes him a scary champion. I see him defend 3 or 4 times at least
The scales happened to be messed up in Arizona, the home state of the challenger, and the athletic commission goes and tells everyone about it but the champion while some people working on the athletic commission appear to be very close to Gaethje's team, talking a lot and walking around together most of the time. After this, we watched the most rigorous weight in the history of the sport, and even after more than one hour of work and sweat and after taking his underwear the champion's weight won't change. Oliveira was physically and mentally exhausted to the point he didn't want to eat or rehydrate. Regardless, 24h after that he showed up and destroyed Gaethje. All this was too much of a coincidence for me and the Kilogram talk sounds like pure bullshit. My feeling is that something sketchy happened and the UFC knows, therefore the security guard from now on. Anyway, that makes the Oliveira legacy even bigger. Charles was and still is a true champion, but after this he became a true legend in my eyes.
Don’t you think if the commission really were doing something ‘sketchy’ for Gaethje and his team, they wouldn’t make it so obvious by walking around like besties? Nice conspiracy though bro. ORRRR… hear me out… they were aren’t really close with the commission - just having a conversation and Charles just didn’t make weight so lost the belt lol. Come in a bit earlier to weight and not leave it so fkin late next time do bronx
@@ojsimpson4040 it's Arizona, they don't care. Arizona athletic comission has a long story of bad calls and imcompetence in fight sports and they do whatever they want. And no one cares as well, even with they doing all this people just buy whatever excuse dana gives, like the kilogram bullshit, so why worry about that?
Charles fights like a blind man, constantly move forward and throw offence til he gets the clinch. Once he gets the clinch he brutalizes the body with knees. Beautiful.
I became a fan when he won the belt, that 2nd round KO was wild, seeing him vs Dustin I was nervous but he did amazing and I knew he’d beat Justin !! Do bronx 🇧🇷
I've always been a fan of him. I've been watching MMA for a while and honestly never thought Charles would be at the top of his division. Always seemed kinda inconsistent in a way but now he has this long win streak and just finishing the best guys in the division. Crazy
In interviews I heard with Gaethje, I took it that he didn’t take training seriously, or at least definitely didn’t like it. He literally said he would give up his career to be a pro golfer instead, where he didn’t have to be in shape.
Obviously joe knows 1000x more about jujitsu then me and probably didn’t mention it but I think the reason Charle’s jujitsu is so good in the cage is because of his incredible understanding of both sports . So if he’s on your back trying to complete a rear naked joke he knows where to hit you to make you relinquish you grip slightly letting him sink his chokes in, just a random example but he is undoubtedly the goat of mma jujitsu in my opinion .
Oliveira isn't just the best in the world, he's also fighting like a true champion should-aggressive, pushing the pace, looking to take your head off and make a statement. CHAMP SHIT ONLY
1 Sedaw Fuk what you saying it here 😠 ua-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/v-deo.html Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠 5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
Mr.Roagn! I’m a biomedical engineer and work with medical equipment! The transducer in the scale is the same, and Switching the scale from KG to LBD will not fuck the calibration!
@@JonJon-pj9ly to be fair I have no idea what kind of scales they used lol, but I've used both industrial and regular scales and they all (electronic ones anyway) seem to have a button/option to converse the scale to either pounds or kgs without having to recalibrate them after you do. But I'm just a casual so tbh what the fk would I know 😅🤷
The reference scale was a digital one and this kilogram story is pure bullshit to me... the reference scale happened to be messed up in Arizona, the home state of the challenger, and the athletic commission tells everyone but the champion about it in the morning while some people working on the athletic commission appear to be very close to Gaethje's team, talking a lot and walking around together most of the time. Besides that, we watched the most rigorous behavior from an athletic commission in the history of the sport and the most careless weight in for a champ I have ever seen, without even letting the scale stabilize properly. Not to mention that the champion's weight didn't change even after more than one hour of work and sweat and taking his underwear off. Oliveira was physically and mentally exhausted to the point he didn't want to eat or rehydrate after all this, but he did show up 24h after and destroyed Gaethje. All this was too coincidental for me and the Kilograms talk sounds like pure bullshit. My feeling is that something sketchy happened and the UFC knows, therefore the security guard from now on. Can you imagine what would happen if it was the other way around, Gaethje as a champ and it happening in Brazil? It would be crazy-town and I bet the UFC would give him the champion belt regardless of the 0.5 pounds. Ariel Helwani is right: Oliveira got screwed. Doesn't matter, just makes Oliveira's legacy even bigger. Charles was and still is a true champion, but he became a true legend in my eyes after that shit.
@@funcionarios absolutely, after all, brazilians have cheat written right next to It, It does not matter what happened or who is cheating. If Gaethje got robbed in Brazil, a storm of fire would rain down. Anyways, the official scale was manual, I have one of those myself, It demands time to measure the proper weight, and that dude just seemed like he didnt know what he was doing. It was absolutely sketchy, fishy, call It what you want. Everybody seems to realize that, even Joe Rogan, and It only made Charles even greater, hes the hottest prospect star from UFC right now, If he continues to Win more fights, hes definetly reaching goat status very soon.
As soon as Oliveira signed up with UFC, I went to one of his pre fight camp, I was BJJ purple belt that time, man, I did train with the lightweight UFC champ...I am soooo glad.... Macaco Gold Team....
That calf slicer is all you need to know about Do Bronx's submission game lol. I thought he was gonna tear the calf from the knee. Also the armbar he put Tony Ferguson in was insane. Only a person who has zero self concern like Tony doesn't tap to that LMAO.
1 John Brennan Fuk what you saying it here 😠 ua-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/v-deo.html Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠 5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
Not to mention some very underrated power he’s developed in his hands. It’s not a fluke when you knock down gaethjie (arguably the hardest chin at 155) and tko chandler as well. But it’s a different animal when you fight guys that don’t care about playing your game, like Islam for example. I personally think Islam would wrestle him to death. Very intrigued to see that fight.
@@otienofrankline4957 You are high and drunk dude. He gets straight out dropped. Stop it. yes he is a great fighter but let's not do what you're trying to do.
@@untzuntz3000 if you can calibrate 1 scale to be accurate you can calibrate 5 thats the whole point of calibration is the scale is initially off and you calibrate to be almost exact to the official
@@adubbs9490 i know but it leaves a lot of space for tampering and claims that the other scale is rigged. In this case everyone has to make the samw weight be it 155 or 154.5 or whatever.
Joe Rogan thank you so much for all the support you deliver to Charles 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Grateful that someone inside the UFC events could perfectly explain the real reason why Charles was “not” technically on weight! Thanks 🙏🏻 🇧🇷💕🇧🇷💕🇧🇷
I hope Justins doing okay. Haven’t seen much of him in the media lately and I respect that. Dude literally has death in the back of his mind before entering the octagon . What really got me was on DC interview when he said hes got no wife or kids. What he and all of us have is right now today. Tomorrow’s never promised.
Joes right on, Islams comments on Charles were really off putting, showed zero respect and acted like he has already beat him with ease and like he’s a 10x defending champion. Made the classic mistake of calling him weak and a quitter based off his fights from over 5 years ago, ignoring the entire 11 fight win streak and who he currently has become. Islam can think he can beat him and that’s fine, but disrespecting and insulting a legend is very distasteful and makes me wanna see Olivera humble him
Islam predicts oliveira,s victory against justin . He respect charles skill set but he also mentioned the flaws of these strikers (justin,Dustin,Chandler) they knocked down charles on the ground but couldn’t have the ability to grapple with oliviera in that perspective he mentioned that I’m different from these strikers I’ve everything I know how to strike, kick, and most importantly I have the ability to wrestle with my opponent infact everyone knows me as a wrestler! Thats what islam says in his interview. I think islam vs charles is going to be thrilling fight if that happened in the near future! We all wanna see this fight!
2:24m. Charles' team claims they just heard about the problem with the scale on the day of weigh-in, and that all the other teams had a heads up on the day prior.
Why doesn’t a scale with that much importance just show both weight measurements at the same time? A quick search shows tons of retail scales that show both, why can’t mma find one?
If democrats support right to your body how come they caused so many heart attacks in men strokes in women and liver failure in children with their mandates. It doesn't sound pro life or pro choice to mandate something that's killed more people then the actual virus
What bothers me is that even after making weight, over the next 24 hours most fighters blow up 5 - 10 pounds before the fight as soon as they re-hydrate. So missing weight by one pound should really be a non issue. I can see having to split the purse, but having to vacate a belt because of 1 pound? That's a bit much.
They coming in the fight heavier than 5-10 lbs after 24hrs! But gotta hit the exact weight or you missed it! (Scale discrepancy is another story in itself, it’s a tough one in this case )
@@steves8362 My point being, weighing in a day prior to the fight essentially makes the scale irrelevant to begin with. Considering how much weight they put on in the 24 hours between the scale and the cage. Now if they were to weigh the fighters right before they entered the octagon, I could see the need to be on the dot with weight. So really 1 pound over a day prior to the fight shouldn't force a champion to vacate his title. If they wanted to penalize their pay, like they've done in the past, that would be more realistic. If the scales really were off, they need to reinstate his title and double his pay as well as issue an apology from the fight commission of that state. Either way it was a great fight mired in controversy.
1 DJ Mikee T Fuk what you saying it here 😠 ua-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/v-deo.html Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠 5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortales abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer
Sorry but Joe is wrong here. The Arizona commission isn't in charge of the scales that the UFC provides in the back. The Arizona commission is in only in charge of the official scale which they said they rechecked to make sure it was calibrated. Uncalibrated scales provided by the UFC is their issue and not Arizona's. Also, Charles had a tough weight cut (why else would he be the last to weigh in?). Charles' story isn't squeaky clean either.
I think that along with jiu jitsu, Charles' mentality is one of his strongest things. It's like he says, he has a champion mentality, and he's shielded by it. I started to respect him even more after this fight against Gaethje. Where is your mindset after losing a belt before the fight? Where is your mindset when your dad calls crying asking what had happened? Where is your mindset when your 5 years old daughter calls asking if the belt is no longer yours? Where is your mindset? A legend, went there, knocked out and submitted gaethje, in the first round. Nothing enters this man's mind. The true Champion
It was a pound for some, because they werent properly communicated. One of them was Charles team, everybody dropped more than they were initially planning, but Charles had to do more because the weight limot os more strict for Champions. Gaethje, Rose and Carla did mande weight because they weight in pounds not kilos, so a day before they already knew
Don’t know why UFC fighters by and large look stiff when they fight. At one point or another it’s just an all out brawl with little defense or head movement.
I worry about Charles Oliviera. He's been knocked out and hurt so much. I'm scared if he takes too many more shots he'll have to retire and become a terrible comedian.
Why worry? Its definitely gonna happen. Im afraid his disabilites when he was a kid and him being paralyzed due to injuries during his early UFC days will Backfire in the near future. I know its gonna happen but me too. Im worried as well LOL.
I got into a fight at work (construction site) with a guy who was 5"6 I'm 6"2 and have boxed for 20 years and I got a second prize because he just kept taking me down and getting his knees on my shoulders. If it was a stand up fight I'd have jabbed his head in but I learned a valuable lesson about bjj being so effective for someone of any size, I had to resort to biting his hand and sticking a thumb in his eye, any time I got to my feet I just got taken down and punched around and folded up like a pretzel. Gave me a real reality check as I've never fought someone on the ground mostly from my back, luckily he never used any submissions on me, he just pinned me and punched the shit out of me and I'm not ashamed to admit it lol Forgot to mention he was a purple belt in bjj lol
gotta love oliveira. got that i-spent-my-childhood-in-a-hospital and favela hunger. in a disney era littered w posturing and fiting once every 2 yrs, contract negotiations, charles gets underpromoted coz of his background and nonetheless shows up and jus fucking goes
3:07 When Charles Olivia hurt he go to the ground and all strikers don't want to miss with Charles Olivia on the ground but against Islam when he go to ground he Will not safe.
@@leliel12th43 Man, as a Brazilian and fan of Charles, I'm worried Islam will take him to the ground immediately. Charles will not defend it to the point of staying up, he will try to get positioning on the ground. Islam is a monster on the ground, fighters say he has better submission defense them khabib. so i HOPE islam trades in stand up for a while first
Today, Charles is the most exciting fighter to see in the entire UFC.
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I would 100% agree and Alexander Volk dude literally just comes back better and better each fight what he did to Korean zombie was just insane
@@Fishingarizona94 LOL
@@Fishingarizona94 cmon now. Olivera is obviously more exited solely based on the competition he’s beating.
@@uh2187 did you not watch the fight vs Gilbert
Charles is one of the toughest lightweights out there. To take the kind of shots he’s been hit with and still fight back and submit people is so impressive.
That's great, so give Charles back his belt since it wasn't his fault!
They must go crazy with sparring at Chute Box
And knocking out
@@zshakur missing weight is 100% his fault
@@robjohnston1026 The scales!! Lol
The fact UFC admits there is an issue and puts guards on the scale, yet they stripped this man. Absolutely disgusting. If he was a bigger draw you can guarantee Dana wouldn't have let this shit fly.
They didn't admit anything. They simply claimed what they were told. Charles screwed himself
@@tanishazoa138 bullshit
@chris sanvo after cutting lots of weight and your body goes back to its original state its extremely difficult to shed off any more weight. Im sure he tried. It would not make any sense at all for olives to sacrafice some of his purse as well as championship belt for the sake of one pound
@chris sanvo sure bud they tried everything to get him to lose and he still came back and whooped phoenixs fighter right in front of their eyes. Hes the best in the world
@@tanishazoa138 Dana white blatantly stated the scales where not monitored. The man built a multi billions world wide business, he has never held his tongue in regards to fighters, if they fuck up then fuck them in his eyes, he fucks them under the bus if at fault an moves on, not a ufc issue it's the fighter. He would not openly state it was a staffing issue an new staff will be hired going forward, he's claimed liability, that's a fact. He would not talk ballox and then say security will be hired, then rogan few days later says the scales were messed with and ufc has a new security policy. Common sense use your head.
I LOVE what Joe said about how charles fights even though hes the champion. He doesnt play it safe. It shows a stark contrast between Rose and Charles. Rose fought to keep her belt. But champions supposed to make statements everytime they fight. This is why Charles is a true champion. A champion of champions.
Charles ia a champion that fights to win almost every other champion fight to not lose.
Wait till Charles fights Machachev. 😉😉
supposed to be both.
Yes, Oliveira wants to know that he is the best. I love that about him. True athlete.
No adesanya fights to keep his belt rose and pat are just stupid
23 out of 28 fighters on that card weighed in .5 pounds over the limit for championship weight. EVEN THE HEAVYWEIGHTS.
Blagoi Ivanov weighed 253.5
and Marcos Rogerio de Lima 258.5. I have no idea how anyone isn't talking about this. The biggest rig in UFC history by far.
If it’s not a championship fight then weight in a whole pound over. Ex. Welterweights can weigh in at 171 for non-title fights so 170.5 would be fine for them to weigh in.
What’s surprising about fighters having a weight at .5 😂
@@MiroTheHero7 I don’t think that it’s about it being allowed what I think he’s trying to say is that percentage of fighters were .5 over and usually most fighters are right on to have 23 fighters weighing in .5 over is suspect
@@Z_Rodriguez13 oh interesting, I thought it was relatively common. Feels like it I see it all the time, maybe I’m wrong tho.
@@MiroTheHero7 ofc I could be wrong maybe we haven’t seen the whole picture but that point right there was actually made by another fighter on that card saying it was sus but maybe they do that more than we all think
Joe has such a great way of getting me excited about certain fighters. His descriptions are never cliche and always insightful. I swear no one can get me more excited about fighters than Joe
Thank u sir
he reminds me of fabricio werdum during his short peak. sea level cain was a myth
Him saying “top of the food chain” is pretty cliche when speaking about BJJ tho
Joe's way of showing respect for MMA fighters is such a breath of fresh air in this clout chasing world we live in.
Yo editing sara….The fuck are you on about 🤦 he’s been respectful since day one in 97
What does clout means
How is it a fresh of breath air???who doesn't respect them....... this comment doesn't make sense....
YEAH NAW BRO I GOT DAT CLOUT CARD
He was paying respect to mma fighters since he began podcasting ,and he is still doing it right now while he is the Goat of podcasting. He definitely promoted and helped a lot of fighters get that exposure to the public for free (most likely).
he didnt just beat Justin on the ground but also on the stand up
I knew soon as Justin fell down it was over. Charles is a master in bjj.
justs bjj sucks,always gives his back
@@aleksanderjosifi5090 hey genius how did Justin end up on the ground?
Bro, the very first leg kick gaethje threw, Oliveira cracked him with a straight right hand and STUNNED HIM, his legs were wobbled with Oliveiras first punch. Crazy
If that punch didn't land and Justin settled in we are probably looking at a totally different fight. The way Charles pressures and is on his game instantly just overwhelms people.
Poor gaethje instantly knew he was screwed
I don’t think it was power. The momentum from both fighters caused a beautiful strike.
@@adolpholiverbush5867 I think if he still didn’t land the punch Charleswould’ve put up amazing clinch and Muay Thai skills just like the Poirier fight in the same outcome
It’s not necessarily power but rather precision. Charles will take damage but capitalize on any opening and land flush, kinda reminds me of Featherweight McGregor where the left hand worked wonders as a counter shot.
Charles has become my favorite fighter. He’s a monster right now.
same
I’m so happy to see he has changed perception and is catching all the shine he deserves, he is a beast right now.
i dyed my hair cos of him lol absolute idol
Oliveira deserves his flowers man. Alot of people still doubting him today. "He doesnt deserve to be the champ cause he missed weight". You guys are so wrong about the sport. He is as elite as it can get. Great champ.
@MONICA------👇💋 have you considered walking into heavy traffic?
You should!!!!
Man..... not one real response🦊
In every fight he gets dropped, for me he misses that aura of invincibility.
@@forexmagician for me he regains his aura of invincibility when he wins every one of those fights 🤷♂️
@@forexmagician He gets dropped, and proceeds to rally straight to victory.
I do see the concern with that though, your chin only gets worn down more and more, eventually he won't get back up
I can forever listen to Joe praising Charles Oliveira ❤❤
Never doubt Charles! He's a beast!
We knew it's finally here .
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Does anyone know if Joe talked about Tony in this podcast?
@Guys look👇🅥
I don't think any doubted Charles this fight every knows gaethje is a one trick pony
just dont bet on him making weight hahaha
Great take, Charles is the TRUE CHAMP🙌🏽👑 #DoBronx
Khabib would maul him
Champs make weight. Charles is no champ
@™WATCHDOGG [RAID-0] 🤡🤡🤡
Yeeeeaaaahhhh ddddaaaawwwwgggggg
He has a name and his name is Charles Oliviera
The champion has a name and it is Charles Olivera 🔥🔥🔥
Charles has become my favorite fighter. The nice personality, venomous fang fight style, still living with his family in the same favela and buying Christmas for all the favela kids. 🥺 💜 🦾💥🤛🏼
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Damn this dude wrote a small paragraph just to have bots spam
Charles is very very humble but he has a nice life today. He doesnt live in favela anymore and has a huge house. Also his family are all good. Everything more than deserved. Good and deserved reward
@@Chadius_Thundercock Right! 🤣
@@matheusconstant1552 Nicer house for sure! But exact same Favela he grew up in called Vicente de Carvalho. 😄
Oliveira’s clinch game has become elite !
I wanted Joe to touch on the subject of how well he adjust to his opponents, like he did against chandler on the second round, against Poirier when he started working the clinch more and against Gaethjes leg kicks and finding those openings after the clinch breaks
His clinche is so nasty you can tell how bad it truly bothered Dustin and Justin
Man, I don't know if Gaethje was not at his best that fight, or if he is truly not as good as most of us thought. His leg kicks were getting checked multiple times in a row and he didn't do anything about it. He was banking so much on his heavy hands and iron chin.
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@@rapisor the problem is, some fighters are faster then him, and thats when gaethje gets over whelmed. his heavy hands and kicks usually slows people down... imo
@@rapisor he wasn’t at his best cos he fought oliveira
One thing very few people mention is that the scale was still wobbling when the official reading it proclaimed that Oliveira missed weight. Not as big of a factor maybe as the calibration shenanigans but still a factor.
It would be nice to be able to get a camera showing the weight...
In my opinion, it's a bigger factor. It's literally the reading of the weight. You should probably make sure you do that part correctly.
He can deserve to get stripped and always be the deserving lineal champion.
Hopefully he learned to do what most fighters do and bring his own scale with him and weigh himself before bed and when waking.
@Guys look👇🅥 you gay
Sure….
Charles showing who he is makes me so happy. Legitimately great guy and absolute beast of a fighter
Charles is full of love
Oliveira is the best type of prizefighter...he takes damage but comes back and gets the finish...all his fight are exciting and he's not interested in winning by decision
I also wanted Gaethje to win but Charles deserves nothing but complete respect after that last fight, it was a true test of his heart and soul. He is the champ.
Was amazing!!
He is doing better.. Flowing of strikes..
Smoothing out.. His own martial arts blend... Crazee
Stripped for missing weight is despicable conduct from the UFC. There should always be a 2nd set of scales for reference & to assure accuracy.
Yes. Totally despicable
There should be a security guard 💂♂️ at the ⚖ scales. Plus a secondary reference scale
There were multiple scales. He screwed himself. Everyone else mage weight including two females that had to make championship weight.
@@tanishazoa138 The Arizona Commission do not have multiple scales.....only one present for the weigh-ins. On the night before weigh-in, reports of a problem with the scales prompted them to be changed the following morning. The replacement scales have since been confirmed to be accurate. The point is that the scales used on the night before the weigh-in, were inaccurate & therefore, when Oliveira checked his weight, the reading indicated he was within the limit, but this was inaccurate & as a consequence, Oliveira missed weight on the replacement scales. However, my point is that it should be policy for a 2nd set of scales to be available for the weigh-in, simply to reference in case of disputes. Despite that, i cannot reconcile how anyone could fail to lose 8 ounces in 1 hour......shave your head & body, get an enema, self-catheterise (the bladder is never completely emptied by urinating), cut your nails, swallow salt & sit in the sauna, cut yourself & drain a few drops of blood.....anything it takes.
@@dyschromotopia has y dork. The commission didn't supply the scales. The ufc did.
Charles transition from triangle to rear naked on Justin was god level
Charles is by far my favorite fighter to watch at the moment. Can't miss tv
Charles has had the most fun tittle run I’ve seen in a while, all of his fights has just been electric
So nice to see Charles getting the love he deserves.
It Doesn’t matter if he lost weight he’s still a champion in my opinion.
Nope title is vacant! Real champions don’t miss weight
@@kevinjurkiewicz9557 he’s still the champ JurkyTits
@@kevinjurkiewicz9557 everyone knows he's the man to beat though.
@@kevinjurkiewicz9557 he said in his opinion.
@MONIC These bots are getting creative
Charles is GSP level of technical application. Perfect technique EVERYTIME. Now he has that dawg in him it makes him a scary champion. I see him defend 3 or 4 times at least
Instead of gsp's wrestling ground and pound it's getting beat in bjj.
@@DwarfDt and instead of GSP's wrestling, it's his clinch fighting that is nasty.
Maybe more like bj penn😅🤣
Charles is the most fun champion the UFC has ever had
This 👍
Charles is the real champion
Greatest lightweight fighter on planet
Charles Dobronx oliveira
The scales happened to be messed up in Arizona, the home state of the challenger, and the athletic commission goes and tells everyone about it but the champion while some people working on the athletic commission appear to be very close to Gaethje's team, talking a lot and walking around together most of the time. After this, we watched the most rigorous weight in the history of the sport, and even after more than one hour of work and sweat and after taking his underwear the champion's weight won't change. Oliveira was physically and mentally exhausted to the point he didn't want to eat or rehydrate. Regardless, 24h after that he showed up and destroyed Gaethje. All this was too much of a coincidence for me and the Kilogram talk sounds like pure bullshit. My feeling is that something sketchy happened and the UFC knows, therefore the security guard from now on. Anyway, that makes the Oliveira legacy even bigger. Charles was and still is a true champion, but after this he became a true legend in my eyes.
100%
Some sketchy shit happened and the ufc knows 100% now watch McGregor come back and get a title shot 😂
Don’t you think if the commission really were doing something ‘sketchy’ for Gaethje and his team, they wouldn’t make it so obvious by walking around like besties? Nice conspiracy though bro.
ORRRR… hear me out… they were aren’t really close with the commission - just having a conversation and Charles just didn’t make weight so lost the belt lol. Come in a bit earlier to weight and not leave it so fkin late next time do bronx
@@yozz4h231 thats absolutely not how things happened, get better informed. That's not how the weight cut works as well
@@ojsimpson4040 it's Arizona, they don't care. Arizona athletic comission has a long story of bad calls and imcompetence in fight sports and they do whatever they want. And no one cares as well, even with they doing all this people just buy whatever excuse dana gives, like the kilogram bullshit, so why worry about that?
It’s no question that fight was exciting. Both guys are beasts.
Never thought I'd want to see Charles vs Khabib so much..
Charles fights like a blind man, constantly move forward and throw offence til he gets the clinch. Once he gets the clinch he brutalizes the body with knees. Beautiful.
He’s half blind though😅
Funny enough he is blind!
@@jesseritchie9282 am aware
I definitely overlooked and under appreciated Charles for too long.
I became a fan when he won the belt, that 2nd round KO was wild, seeing him vs Dustin I was nervous but he did amazing and I knew he’d beat Justin !! Do bronx 🇧🇷
We knew it's finally here .
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We knew it's finally here .
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I've always been a fan of him. I've been watching MMA for a while and honestly never thought Charles would be at the top of his division. Always seemed kinda inconsistent in a way but now he has this long win streak and just finishing the best guys in the division. Crazy
Casual
Thank god the uploads haven’t stopped.
I love listening to Joe talk about certain fighters. Charles is one of my favs, for sure.
Been watching all the old cam Hanes podcast so hell yeah
The GOAT Always finds a way to win never seen anything like it before
Loved seeing the notification for Cam back on the show ! Stoked on reading his book !
In interviews I heard with Gaethje, I took it that he didn’t take training seriously, or at least definitely didn’t like it. He literally said he would give up his career to be a pro golfer instead, where he didn’t have to be in shape.
How hard would it be to have two scales?
I really wish they would give charles the belt back, he got screwed
Nope! Missed weight
@Kevin Jurkiewicz salty 🤡
@@sethgremillion1539 so he didn’t miss weight?
Obviously joe knows 1000x more about jujitsu then me and probably didn’t mention it but I think the reason Charle’s jujitsu is so good in the cage is because of his incredible understanding of both sports . So if he’s on your back trying to complete a rear naked joke he knows where to hit you to make you relinquish you grip slightly letting him sink his chokes in, just a random example but he is undoubtedly the goat of mma jujitsu in my opinion .
Oliveira isn't just the best in the world, he's also fighting like a true champion should-aggressive, pushing the pace, looking to take your head off and make a statement. CHAMP SHIT ONLY
1 Sedaw Fuk what you saying it here 😠 ua-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/v-deo.html
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
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Charles olivera with that most recent translator on JRE right now, thats the seed
Can’t deny Oliveira anymore , true champ
The way they synced up at 4:17 😄
Joe Rogan : So Charles on a scale from 1 to 1000 how do you rate you're performance
Charles Oliveira : A solid 155.5
Mr.Roagn! I’m a biomedical engineer and work with medical equipment! The transducer in the scale is the same, and Switching the scale from KG to LBD will not fuck the calibration!
He didn’t miss weight. Y’all trying to steal it from him by any means necessary smh
Everyone still calls him champ and he still says he’s champ. Dana admitted to a fault as well
great interview
Charles Oliveira is on another level
Tony jumped on the main scale to fuck it up, is what happened!!😂
“He’s got the most submissions in mma.”
*oleksi olyinik has entered the chat*
Most submissions in ufc tenure
the boa constrictor 💪🏽
OLD JOE ROGAN -
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Most scales have a button that switches the reading from kg to pound, it's doesn't 're-calibrate' anything 🤔
The manual scale? Are you sure? That scale gets messed up pretty easily, I have one myself
@@JonJon-pj9ly to be fair I have no idea what kind of scales they used lol, but I've used both industrial and regular scales and they all (electronic ones anyway) seem to have a button/option to converse the scale to either pounds or kgs without having to recalibrate them after you do. But I'm just a casual so tbh what the fk would I know 😅🤷
The reference scale was a digital one and this kilogram story is pure bullshit to me... the reference scale happened to be messed up in Arizona, the home state of the challenger, and the athletic commission tells everyone but the champion about it in the morning while some people working on the athletic commission appear to be very close to Gaethje's team, talking a lot and walking around together most of the time. Besides that, we watched the most rigorous behavior from an athletic commission in the history of the sport and the most careless weight in for a champ I have ever seen, without even letting the scale stabilize properly. Not to mention that the champion's weight didn't change even after more than one hour of work and sweat and taking his underwear off. Oliveira was physically and mentally exhausted to the point he didn't want to eat or rehydrate after all this, but he did show up 24h after and destroyed Gaethje. All this was too coincidental for me and the Kilograms talk sounds like pure bullshit. My feeling is that something sketchy happened and the UFC knows, therefore the security guard from now on. Can you imagine what would happen if it was the other way around, Gaethje as a champ and it happening in Brazil? It would be crazy-town and I bet the UFC would give him the champion belt regardless of the 0.5 pounds. Ariel Helwani is right: Oliveira got screwed. Doesn't matter, just makes Oliveira's legacy even bigger. Charles was and still is a true champion, but he became a true legend in my eyes after that shit.
@@funcionarios absolutely, after all, brazilians have cheat written right next to It, It does not matter what happened or who is cheating. If Gaethje got robbed in Brazil, a storm of fire would rain down. Anyways, the official scale was manual, I have one of those myself, It demands time to measure the proper weight, and that dude just seemed like he didnt know what he was doing. It was absolutely sketchy, fishy, call It what you want. Everybody seems to realize that, even Joe Rogan, and It only made Charles even greater, hes the hottest prospect star from UFC right now, If he continues to Win more fights, hes definetly reaching goat status very soon.
As soon as Oliveira signed up with UFC, I went to one of his pre fight camp, I was BJJ purple belt that time, man, I did train with the lightweight UFC champ...I am soooo glad.... Macaco Gold Team....
That calf slicer is all you need to know about Do Bronx's submission game lol. I thought he was gonna tear the calf from the knee. Also the armbar he put Tony Ferguson in was insane. Only a person who has zero self concern like Tony doesn't tap to that LMAO.
1 John Brennan Fuk what you saying it here 😠 ua-cam.com/video/8zrfSK6pnpQ/v-deo.html
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
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Right!! Ferguson is insane for resisting until the horn sounded
@@YungKuroKami I swear I thought he was gonna snap it. I love seeing Cormier's reaction to it too lol.
Correction at 2:32. Several people didn't make wait, but they were allowed to be a pound over,Oliveira didn't have that Chace bc he's the champion
If you’re an MMA fan, then you have to love the Brazilians and the Russians. They bring it every fight or 99.9% of the time
Khabib fight are boring af like rogan said Charles fight like a challenger
@@forceunleashed4338 you’re a casual
@@CorporateHustler24 he´s right tho Khabib was the most boring fighter ever lol
@@UFCFIGHTSHOF GSP was much more boring than Khabib
@@CorporateHustler24 lol wtf no lmaoo
Not to mention some very underrated power he’s developed in his hands. It’s not a fluke when you knock down gaethjie (arguably the hardest chin at 155) and tko chandler as well. But it’s a different animal when you fight guys that don’t care about playing your game, like Islam for example. I personally think Islam would wrestle him to death. Very intrigued to see that fight.
Khabib was aftaid of this guy, that s why he retired! Charles is the most technical figther(if not Bony) in UFC.
Afraid? What a casual you are bro.
those kicks to the body are really money in the bank for charles
Charles is great. But he gets dropped in every fight, sometimes multiple times. Eventually someone's gonna hit him hard enough and he won't get up
Maybe, maybe not..
Not as much as getting dropped more of taking a knee like in boxing to get those extra seconds in to recollect himself... Very High IQ stuff
@@otienofrankline4957 You are high and drunk dude. He gets straight out dropped. Stop it. yes he is a great fighter but let's not do what you're trying to do.
Blá blá blá, o campeão tem nome, é Charles do bronx.
Everybody gets dropped once in a while. That's why they call it a "fight".
Is this Joe's friend CAM HANES??? Joe never brings him up its so good to finally see him make an appearance
imagine not having multiple scales locked for lbs. and kgs. prob cost less than paying for a guard
Took the words out of my mouth
Or that they use some sort of digital scale which displays both kg's and lbs
Scales can be off, thats why you use 1.
@@untzuntz3000 if you can calibrate 1 scale to be accurate you can calibrate 5 thats the whole point of calibration is the scale is initially off and you calibrate to be almost exact to the official
@@adubbs9490 i know but it leaves a lot of space for tampering and claims that the other scale is rigged. In this case everyone has to make the samw weight be it 155 or 154.5 or whatever.
Give Charles back his belt, plus the Gaethje defence, and the next one!!!
He’s the true champ ❤
Charles composure reminds me of another legend: Fedor. They both get hurt, adjust and come back, and finish their opponents.
Get the f#*$% outta here!!! 😆😅🤣😂 r u crazy??? No comparison at all. Lol
I mean there both great but different weight classes and different fighting styles and i think oliviera is more exciting fighter
Joe Rogan thank you so much for all the support you deliver to Charles 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Grateful that someone inside the UFC events could perfectly explain the real reason why Charles was “not” technically on weight!
Thanks 🙏🏻 🇧🇷💕🇧🇷💕🇧🇷
Man . I tell you Charles is an all around fighter . He sure has came along way .
That's awesome Joe. Big fan here man!
@Azaria Alida nuce!
I hope Justins doing okay. Haven’t seen much of him in the media lately and I respect that. Dude literally has death in the back of his mind before entering the octagon . What really got me was on DC interview when he said hes got no wife or kids. What he and all of us have is right now today. Tomorrow’s never promised.
Joes right on, Islams comments on Charles were really off putting, showed zero respect and acted like he has already beat him with ease and like he’s a 10x defending champion. Made the classic mistake of calling him weak and a quitter based off his fights from over 5 years ago, ignoring the entire 11 fight win streak and who he currently has become. Islam can think he can beat him and that’s fine, but disrespecting and insulting a legend is very distasteful and makes me wanna see Olivera humble him
Islam predicts oliveira,s victory against justin . He respect charles skill set but he also mentioned the flaws of these strikers (justin,Dustin,Chandler) they knocked down charles on the ground but couldn’t have the ability to grapple with oliviera in that perspective he mentioned that I’m different from these strikers I’ve everything I know how to strike, kick, and most importantly I have the ability to wrestle with my opponent infact everyone knows me as a wrestler! Thats what islam says in his interview. I think islam vs charles is going to be thrilling fight if that happened in the near future! We all wanna see this fight!
2:24m. Charles' team claims they just heard about the problem with the scale on the day of weigh-in, and that all the other teams had a heads up on the day prior.
Why doesn’t a scale with that much importance just show both weight measurements at the same time? A quick search shows tons of retail scales that show both, why can’t mma find one?
Being cheap
If democrats support right to your body how come they caused so many heart attacks in men strokes in women and liver failure in children with their mandates.
It doesn't sound pro life or pro choice to mandate something that's killed more people then the actual virus
I have been waiting on this podcast
What bothers me is that even after making weight, over the next 24 hours most fighters blow up 5 - 10 pounds before the fight as soon as they re-hydrate. So missing weight by one pound should really be a non issue. I can see having to split the purse, but having to vacate a belt because of 1 pound? That's a bit much.
They coming in the fight heavier than 5-10 lbs after 24hrs!
But gotta hit the exact weight or you missed it! (Scale discrepancy is another story in itself, it’s a tough one in this case )
@@steves8362 My point being, weighing in a day prior to the fight essentially makes the scale irrelevant to begin with. Considering how much weight they put on in the 24 hours between the scale and the cage. Now if they were to weigh the fighters right before they entered the octagon, I could see the need to be on the dot with weight. So really 1 pound over a day prior to the fight shouldn't force a champion to vacate his title. If they wanted to penalize their pay, like they've done in the past, that would be more realistic. If the scales really were off, they need to reinstate his title and double his pay as well as issue an apology from the fight commission of that state. Either way it was a great fight mired in controversy.
Man I love listening to your podcast stoned lol. You’ve got such a chilled voice man. Same for the guests. Gutted Justin lost. I’m a new fan of his.
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Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 😠
5:25 Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😠😠
Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖
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Charles Oliveira, Brian Ortega, and Paul Craig are the best BJJ users in the UFC right now
Pol Creeg is so underrated
Gilbert Burns won a world championship
Gilbert Burns plays football? Just kidding, but he should be between Oliveira and Ortega I think
@@gabrielfreire2074 yea, Gilbert just doesn't have the amount of subs as the other 2 for sure
@@BPB9973952 exactly, but that’s cause he trust too much on the heavy hand
Sorry but Joe is wrong here. The Arizona commission isn't in charge of the scales that the UFC provides in the back. The Arizona commission is in only in charge of the official scale which they said they rechecked to make sure it was calibrated. Uncalibrated scales provided by the UFC is their issue and not Arizona's. Also, Charles had a tough weight cut (why else would he be the last to weigh in?). Charles' story isn't squeaky clean either.
I think that along with jiu jitsu, Charles' mentality is one of his strongest things. It's like he says, he has a champion mentality, and he's shielded by it. I started to respect him even more after this fight against Gaethje. Where is your mindset after losing a belt before the fight? Where is your mindset when your dad calls crying asking what had happened? Where is your mindset when your 5 years old daughter calls asking if the belt is no longer yours? Where is your mindset? A legend, went there, knocked out and submitted gaethje, in the first round. Nothing enters this man's mind. The true Champion
Charles is unbelievably good with submissions on the ground.
I like how Joe flat out says that he got screwed. I'm not sure why he thought it was over a lb though. It was a half-pound the whole time.
It was a pound for some, because they werent properly communicated. One of them was Charles team, everybody dropped more than they were initially planning, but Charles had to do more because the weight limot os more strict for Champions. Gaethje, Rose and Carla did mande weight because they weight in pounds not kilos, so a day before they already knew
Charles is one of the only guys that can chain-submit people. Chain-wrestling we've seen a lot, but not this. Another level
IF they know its a problem enough to hire a guard that means they know he made weight? give the man back his belt Back!!!!
Justin even said to oliveira in the octagon when they hugged that Charles hits hard af..
Charles is the real champ!
Don’t know why UFC fighters by and large look stiff when they fight. At one point or another it’s just an all out brawl with little defense or head movement.
I worry about Charles Oliviera. He's been knocked out and hurt so much. I'm scared if he takes too many more shots he'll have to retire and become a terrible comedian.
Why worry? Its definitely gonna happen. Im afraid his disabilites when he was a kid and him being paralyzed due to injuries during his early UFC days will Backfire in the near future.
I know its gonna happen but me too. Im worried as well LOL.
Went over everyone’s head lol
Bro😂
We knew it's finally here .
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We knew it's finally here .
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Nothing but mad respect for Charles!!!
I got into a fight at work (construction site) with a guy who was 5"6 I'm 6"2 and have boxed for 20 years and I got a second prize because he just kept taking me down and getting his knees on my shoulders. If it was a stand up fight I'd have jabbed his head in but I learned a valuable lesson about bjj being so effective for someone of any size, I had to resort to biting his hand and sticking a thumb in his eye, any time I got to my feet I just got taken down and punched around and folded up like a pretzel. Gave me a real reality check as I've never fought someone on the ground mostly from my back, luckily he never used any submissions on me, he just pinned me and punched the shit out of me and I'm not ashamed to admit it lol
Forgot to mention he was a purple belt in bjj lol
Maybe instead of fighting at work you should do your actual job .
At least you know where you are at. You can improve!
gotta love oliveira. got that i-spent-my-childhood-in-a-hospital and favela hunger.
in a disney era littered w posturing and fiting once every 2 yrs, contract negotiations, charles gets underpromoted coz of his background and nonetheless shows up and jus fucking goes
“The champion has a name” best line in sports
@Angelica Montes no fuk wat you saying
Oliveira is on some next level shit.He’s gonna make Khabib come out of retirement and then whup Khabib too.Legend.
3:07
When Charles Olivia hurt he go to the ground and all strikers don't want to miss with Charles Olivia on the ground but against Islam when he go to ground he Will not safe.
BUT before going to the gound there's those bombs that Oliveira thrown. Gaethje was caught by one in the first seconds (and in the final ones too).
That fight will be interesting. Cheering for Oliveira, but who knows
@@leliel12th43 Man, as a Brazilian and fan of Charles, I'm worried Islam will take him to the ground immediately. Charles will not defend it to the point of staying up, he will try to get positioning on the ground. Islam is a monster on the ground, fighters say he has better submission defense them khabib. so i HOPE islam trades in stand up for a while first
Sure dont wanna see my boy Do Bronx get smashed. Beat Islam hopefully, callout Khabib respectfully, and maybe we have a goat 155 match
@@frankjacob8360
8 times beaten by their opponents will not a goat.
32-8
Goat is only Jon Jones.
Jon Jones beaten monsters in very young age.